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Ell
11:00 PM
I wouldn't even know where to buy mead in the uk
 
user1804599
> I think people should actually use a solid bucket of ice. Now THAT'S a challenge.
 
user1804599
:D :D :D
 
Ell
@Xeo do you just buy it from regular super markets?
 
Xeo
lolno
 
You are not alone. We are all here with you. Cheers!
 
Xeo
11:00 PM
 
@Xeo lol
 
Xeo
I got 11 bottles of mead left in my basement
 
Ell
@Xeo Now that's what I call a medieval website!
 
Xeo
@Ell ;D
 
@Xeo Enough for one week of a honeymoon (approximately).
 
user2985029
11:02 PM
@Xeo what language is that?
 
@xxx ... german!?
 
Xeo
I only drink it when my buddy is over, though. And he has no time this weekend :<
 
Sie sind der 4069070. Besucher
 
Hast du noch nie Deutsch gelesen oder was?
Englisch ist doch schließlich auch eine germanische Sprache.
 
user2985029
ich bin zwolfe jare alt
 
11:02 PM
18
 
@Xeo You need to make more friends.
 
@Xeo Where do you live, anyway?
 
user2985029
that's all I remember from my german lessons
 
@JerryCoffin inb4 "What about Zoidberg"
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin But we're mead brothers!
also, we both paid for it to drink together
@Columbo Take a guess
 
11:04 PM
@Columbo Here?
 
@Xeo ... could be Austria or Switzerland
But I guess Germany.
@JerryCoffin That is a picture, Jerry. People don't live in pictures.
 
@Xeo Well, okay--need to buy something else to get drunk on with other people this weekend.
 
We can exclude southern Germany, or he would have responded "20" to my humble 18
 
@sehe how hard would this one be to implement without boost/range ? coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/1f068e2c9df5ce9c
 
@CaptainGiraffe Auch deutsch?
 
11:05 PM
@Columbo What a silly statement. Of course they do.
 
Just lots more boilerplate? less functionality?
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin I mentioned before that I don't have many friends living nearby.
 
@Columbo Nein, just a Skat player.
 
@JerryCoffin Maybe in Harry Potter
@CaptainGiraffe Ah, very gut
 
3 mins ago, by Jerry Coffin
@Xeo You need to make more friends.
 
Xeo
11:06 PM
I also mentioned before that I suck at that
 
Ell
Mead does sound yummy though
 
Lol failquote
 
Xeo
@Ell It is, very much so.
 
What the actual fuck is mead
 
Xeo
Mead.
Honey wine.
 
11:07 PM
Wine?
 
Never tasted it before. Is it good? Or "special"?
 
Xeo
It's... mead.
 
@sehe I think I like the idea, but I'm not sure I have enough time to completely understand it and then implement it in the specifics of my app. I need to have some results soonish. I'll be thinking about it over the weekend.
 
I think making friends is easy.
You just have to be yourself, unless you're not me, in which case you just have to be me.
 
11:09 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Vice versa.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes but that's just you making friends :p
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe. I still suck at it.
 
user1804599
> Six of each kind of McFlurry.
 
user1804599
lol
 
I think I've made more sense while drunk.
 
11:10 PM
You don't have to be yourself, unless you're R.Martinho, in which case you have to be not yourself.
 
Ell
I'm watching the data oriented design and c++ talk
I've never really got data oriented design
 
Point is, IME friends just happen.
 
@sehe also I think co-worker who is closely watching all my code right now would say that going that route would be making things more complex than they need to be as well as more difficult for them to debug. Not saying that's necessarily true, just that's what he would say. And to a certain degree it would be true for them, and probably me.
 
@Columbo Not really "wine" (Wine, by its very name, implies at least something that grows on vines, and really grapes). But the same basic idea: alcoholic drink made by fermenting honey.
 
11:11 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... leads to Rome!
 
@Columbo Quite good, IMO. Roughly the same levels of alcohol as a wine, usually slightly sweet, and with definite honey-ish taste.
@Columbo All roads lead to Paris.
 
IME there are friends that are put in a queue and there are friends put on a stack.
 
Evening amoebas
 
It's funny because Xeo doesn't like honey.
 
@JerryCoffin Sounds nice, but since I'm underage, .... I'll have to wait until I'm back in germany where you can buy wine with 16
 
Ell
11:12 PM
or wine
 
WOOF WOOF PUP
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, that
or wine
 
Fed bailey? kek
 
Xeo
or anything but rum and mead
 
@caps the idea is, basically you mimic the runtime flexibility of other languages, but manually.
 
11:13 PM
Liar!
You had some riboflavin
 
@caps I completely agree! My c++11 is my idea. And, of course, just make copy_until. It seems to be what you need (perhaps with a function_input_iterator)
 
Xeo
?
@R.MartinhoFernandes some what
 
Fuck you autocorrect.
 
Ell
@Xeo you can't say that surely :P
Or have you tried every drink under the sun?
 
What the fuck is riboflavin
 
Xeo
11:14 PM
@Ell I have tasted a variety of things.
@R.MartinhoFernandes some vitamin B stuff
 
A protein I think
 
I meant eggnog
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes ooh, right, that too.
forgot about that
Yeah, eggnog is good too
 
How the fuck.
 
Xeo
11:14 PM
So rum, mead, eggnog.
 
@sehe Yeah, I think I get it. I like the idea as far as truly separating the interface from the implementation through a template class. But I don't fully understand it and have been burned by doing stuff I didn't fully understand in the past.
@sehe Actually I still don't follow what copy_until has to do with my project, although I think I see what it is doing.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I actually managed to almost empty a bottle of that during the unconference.
 
@sehe I also don't understand how sentinel is being used. Isn't it uninitialized?
 
@Puppy Well, he's lying on our bed, upside down, so he may have died of hunger.
 
Xeo
had some with @Bartek
 
11:17 PM
Or he may just be sleeping
 
You guys had riboflavin at the unconference?
 
Ell
I've never had eggnog before
 
Xeo
was that intentional now? :P
 
Well, we managed to empty a bottle of slivovica.
 
Xeo
involuntarily.
 
11:18 PM
Well, to prevent Martin from doing it alone.
 
Xeo
man, we need another Unconference.
3
badly.
 
those bottles empties themselves.
 
@sehe headed out the door, but thanks again.
 
Xeo
one year is just too long
 
Ell
@Xeo but wheerre?
 
Xeo
11:19 PM
we need these bi-yearly.
@Ell UK or Poland
if we can get @Cat to leave his home turf, it's gonna be UK
 
Ell
Wooo!
 
Xeo
(and if we can't it's still likely gonna be UK)
 
Ell
I have two spare bedrooms :p
 
The PHP room had what they call a 'beer meeting'.
It's basically a videoconference where they are drinking beer.
 
Xeo
lol
 
11:20 PM
lol
 
Not sure if sad or funny.
 
Both, its PHP
 
Ell
how about neither? :P
It's just a video conference
 
For drinking beer 'together'
 
Ell
Meh I don't see anything funny or sad about it
 
11:21 PM
Did anyone video last unconference?
 
Xeo
> Do, 04.12.14 ab 16:18 4:55 2 S, IC 29,00 EUR
ooh, this might be good
 
Ell
Did we think of a possible UK destination?
 
Yes. There was a secret camera in one of my shoes.
 
Its just an Unconference but for a hundredth the price in both money and time
 
Ell
but also enjoyment and socialness
 
11:22 PM
But it's not...
Everyone knows what happened to the shoe with the secret camera, though.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes until you lost the usb cable for it
 
So all the footage was lost.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is that a pun?
 
He left it on the train?
 
Xeo
11:23 PM
> Fr, 05.12.14 ab 19:58 4:38 2 S, ICE 29,00 EUR
this might be another option.
 
No, definitely not on the train.
 
Xeo
nah, somewhere on the way to the rum bar
or whiskey? one of the two
 
I was there today.
@Xeo all of it.
 
Xeo
So you said.
 
Now I'm thinking twice about attending the next unconference
 
Xeo
11:24 PM
Did you reimburse the poor owner for stealing his menu yet?
 
Why?
@Xeo I tipped a lot.
 
Ell
where would it be in Poland and where in the UK?
 
Xeo
hehe
 
@Puppy why?
 
Because it sounds like you guys spent the whole previous one wasted.
 
Xeo
11:25 PM
@Ell Poland at @Cat's place
@Puppy naw
 
Xeo
hell, I've not even been close to being drunk
(Disclaimer: I have never been drunk)
 
And I am capable of neither partaking in nor enjoying booze.
 
Xeo
So?
just don't drink booze, then
drink water or something
 
Ell
Or coke
or lilt
lilt is nice
 
11:26 PM
Or being around boozing people.
 
Xeo
why
 
Ell
Boozing people are just regular people with less inhibitions
 
Lol, boozing people
 
Xeo
> Do, 04.12.14 ab 19:58 4:38 2 S, ICE 29,00 EUR
I might just take this one
 
Ell
@Puppy You'll never meet @MartinJames then :P
 
Xeo
11:27 PM
tempting.
 
All I'm saying is, when you start talking about going to a rum bar, then I'm thinking back to binge-drinking students
 
Xeo
take a guess from the date.
 
Ell
@Puppy We're all adults here
 
Xeo
@Puppy well you'd be wrong
 
Ell
11:27 PM
apart from me
and some others
 
Xeo
Robot, Braket and I had a single glass of rum there
 
Ell
okay, the people attending the unconference will have some common decency
 
Xeo
and a coke - or water
1 min ago, by Xeo
take a guess from the date.
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^
 
It's a bar for people who enjoy rum (or any kind of spirits, really), not for binge drinking.
 
Ell
11:29 PM
I've never seen a rum bar in the uk
 
Snobs, not slobs.
 
Ell
I don't know of any nice bars near me
 
Xeo
Hm, no good date for travelling back.
hmmm
 
@Xeo Berlin for Christmas?
 
Xeo
so expensive :/
Wtf chat, why "can try again in 5 seconds"?!
@R.MartinhoFernandes That'd imply I'm staying there for a month!
 
11:30 PM
Then no idea.
 
Xeo
> Mo, 08.12.14 ab 00:26 4:49 1 ICE, ERB 58,00 EUR
this is the cheapest train back :<
Oh FFS chat
stop it
> You can perform this action again in 6 seconds - retry / edit / cancel
 
That's what chat is yelling at you, 'stop it'
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's on the 5th / 6th again?
 
No fucking idea.
 
Xeo
lol
Meeting C++, with some people from the lounge attending (i.e., being in Berlin)
 
11:32 PM
Stross is here on the 20th this month. I don't recall anything else interesting.
Oh.
I'm not going.
 
Xeo
Yes
 
Man. I'm torn.
 
Xeo
me neither
> You can perform this action again in 9 seconds - retry / edit / cancel
this is getting ridiculous
 
I want Stross to sign my books but.
 
Xeo
I'll just be in Berlin to hang out with you guys on the weekend of the 6th. That's the plan, anyways.
 
11:34 PM
Ah, cool.
 
Xeo
I'mma need to talk this over with my chef yet, though
 
Ell
man why didn't that start up offer me the internship in berlin
 
Xeo
I prolly should've done that today - I don't think those train tickets will be that cheap on Monday :/
I think I'll just buy them, not like getting two days free is usually a problem
 
So what do you guys think of boost::signals2?
 
Xeo
ah, fuck. OTOH, in December I won't have anybody to look over my kitties yet. Damn.
I should've thought about that
 
11:36 PM
Oh hey there's people here. I thought the room was dead because page was scrolled up.
 
Ell
@StackedCrooked it's twice as good as boost::signals1
 
Xeo
Guess I'll stay here in December. Welp.
So much for that plan.
 
it's handy, on the same level as shared_ptr meets function<>
I haven't found much suse for it
 
Because of cats?
 
Xeo
ye
 
11:38 PM
lol
Also, traitor.
 
@sehe Neither have I.
 
@StackedCrooked It is dead. That's why I'm here.
 
If you have an language that supports OO then you can subscribe to "events" by implementing a listener interface. That still works.
 
@StackedCrooked the real win is with automatic connection management
 
user1804599
 
Xeo
11:40 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sorry~
 
@JerryCoffin oh, took me a while...
 
@caps you seriously need to try to understand what you're doing better
 
@sehe maybe, forgetting to "unregister" before dying is a frequent cause of crashes
 
what's the prettiest and smoothest linux distro?
 
@corvid Ubuntu.
 
user1804599
11:42 PM
Gentoo.
 
50 mins ago, by Columbo
@Nooble Microsoft is shit, Apple is shit, Linux is shit, C++ is shit, this Lounge is shit and my life is shit
 
@JerryCoffin that's the spirit!
 
Objection: already asked and answered, your honor.
 
user2985029
@JerryCoffin and then you die
 
@xxx No, you die. Then you meet me...
Wow--two openings in less than an hour!
 
11:45 PM
@sehe copy_until loops over an input until it reaches the end of the input or the predicate returns false, right? I'll be getting a DataSet object that already has exactly as many items as I'm looking for. I'll probably loop over the DataSet and put it in a container in the impl object. The search module will loop over that container through the interface object and display everything in the container in a listbox.
@sehe So what am I not understanding about how copy_until relates to my project?
The DataSet object is a pre-existing object provided by the IDE that is populated by a SQL Query.
 
@caps yes. Then, why did you have the 5 there in the first place?
 
user1804599
boo
 
@caps It was generalized from your demo logic involving Search(5)
 
@sehe It was a junk value. In actual implementation the search function will take an integer with bit-wise flags telling it what to search for.
 
You know, my code just did what your code does
 
11:47 PM
Can TAILS be used just the same as a normal Ubumtu OS, or is it really "specialized"?
 
@sehe Oh, I see. I understand now. Thank you.
 
@caps Then, maybe you should not have used it with size() < flag there. But you're in luck: std::copy_if has existed for decade(s)
 
@sehe copy_if is a c++11 addition, not?
 
@StackedCrooked mmm. you might be right; I seem to misremember that particular trivia
 
std::remove_copy_if is the old one
 
11:49 PM
yup. I mixed them up (again)
 
@sehe Right. But that part of the code was just there to return something so I could test the interface/implementation stuff.
 
Which I always need to translate to copy_unless in order to remember what it does.
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah--remove_copy_if is a crappy name.
 
Next time I'll try to remember to make comments to show which parts are actually related to my implementation and which parts are just there so that I can see the code output something.
Anyway, gotta' go.
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin well - there's a method to the madness at least!
 
11:52 PM
On the plus side, knowing about std::remove_copy_if can distinguish your from the lesser programmers.
 
Xeo
There's a <algo>[_if] that does something in-place, and then there's a <algo>_copy[_if] that does not do it in-place, but in a new container
 
@Xeo Sort of--but in this case, remove means something almost entirely different from (for the obvious example) std::remove or std::remove_if.
 
user2985029
@JerryCoffin world of warcraft?
 
@xxx No--though I guess the people who still play WoW are excited today (a new expansion came out last night).
 
@JerryCoffin copy_remove_if
 
11:54 PM
@caps spotted this late: std::istream_iterator and similar are documented en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/iterator/istream_iterator :)
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Not really - it's an operation that doesn't mutate the original range, but yields a new range with certain elements removed.
It's just that people don't know of the naming scheme for these
in Haskell for example, remove_copy_if is just filter
 
in Unix it's grep
 
@Xeo filter is a much better name--at least to anybody accustomed to Unix filters (for example) the idea of copying some data, and leaving out some that meet a condition is completely familiar.
 
user1804599
In Perl and Ruby it's also called grep. :D
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin sure - I was just saying that remove_copy_if got its name for a reason
 
11:56 PM
@StackedCrooked copy_if is grep. remove_copy_if is grep -v.
 
Ell
I like reject & select
 
user1804599
Well Ruby grep is slightly different.
 
user2985029
@JerryCoffin yeah, i was in a queue for hours yesterday. and i played for a short time, it was nice, but there are a few things wrong with the whole premise. anyway. i've been quing even longer today. started at 4596, i'm at 1233 at time of wrting
 
@rightføld all grep are slightly different
> Returns an array of every element in enum for which Pattern === element.
Hm..
That's a little different indeed.
 
user2985029
yesterday i entered the queue at 3079 and after several hours got in, but tonight, i feel that i will have to wait all night until morning before i can i venture into draenor once more
 
Ell
11:58 PM
I'm trying to generalise what a renderer is
but I think I'm generalising too much
 

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