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21:00
Rust downloads github repos of dependencies though.
Not yet, it needs more time
And they're all unstable.
okeydokey
@exitc0de Cargo, not Rust. And it will lock the revision to download (and you can update that manually if you want).
Wait, I can get it to download older versions?
I have no idea how.
And which ones are stable.
user1804599
21:01
I want to look into railway modelling.
Compiling current v0.0.0 (https://github.com/PistonDevelopers/current#607d6028)
Compiling rust-xml v0.1.0 (https://github.com/netvl/rust-xml#d6c57380)
Compiling glfw-sys v3.0.4 (https://github.com/servo/glfw?ref=cargo-3.0.4#765dace7)
Compiling graphics v0.0.0 (https://github.com/pistondevelopers/rust-graphics#8c3a975d)
src/current.rs:74:33: 74:41 error: type `std::collections::hash::map::HashMap<core::intrinsics::TypeId, uint>` does not implement any method in scope named `get`
src/current.rs:74 let ptr = match current.get(&id) {
y kant 0.0.0 work
What
Why is it 0.0.0 :L
You're using proof-of-concept stage crap and you're wondering why it doesn't work
I'm using the piston example github repo
And the instructions are literally just to build and run.
21:04
proof, of, concept.
My own doesn't work either.
Oh
@exitc0de Cargo.lock
It's a language that's changing every day
It should still compile.
Not really, no
21:05
er, no.
you really are being stupid
Surely there is a version which does compile
I thought they would have some form of compilable build.
Rust itself should compile.
21:05
How do I find a version that does compile
whether or not it should compile anything written in Rust is a totally different question.
Being an early adopter is not for people who can't deal with fixing other people's code
pretty much that.
Any help with the errors?
If you want to use Rust, either be prepared for it to break or wait.
21:07
no.
I don't know Rust well enough to correct their code.
You can't expect things to Just Work at this stage
nobody does.
Aghr.
Ask the developer of the thing
Maybe they'll fix it
21:07
The Rust irc is dead.
P sure it's not
hmm
And also not the place to ask for code written in Rust
I found myself "no."ing someone on LLVM IRC today.
Contact the dev on GH
21:09
If only there was some way to track issues...
PERHAPS SOME KIND OF WEBSITE
I'll sound really stupid
:P
you "will"?
try "are" :P
How am I supposed to correct a super unstable beta library written in a language I don't know, 1 year into learning programming?
you're not.
Ell
Ell
21:11
@exitc0de you're not
you're supposed to get more experienced first
Walk before you can run :)
a super unstable beta library written in a super unstable alpha language.
Ah, I need to update Rust every 6 hours.
Didn't realise.
@exitc0de Just like the Rust chat room on SO?
If there's no conversation for you to interrupt, it's better for you, not bad.
I got help from the rust game dev irc
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is there any way to update rust tidily from command line?
Without just re-installing it manually
Ell
Ell
git pull; ./configure; make;? :P
21:20
Updating rust with curl -s https://static.rust-lang.org/rustup.sh | sudo sh
didn't fix it
how is rust, anyway? I've only messed around with it a bit
Broken ):
:(
I can't wait for 1.0.0!
what is the appeal of Rust?
Oh
It's fast
And new
And will hopefully be reasonably tidy
Ell
Ell
21:22
@exitc0de it's not broken :P
Its broken for me.
Or at least rust-graphics is.
I think I have too new a version of rust
Psychosomatic pain sucks.
it's like Wide but there are more people working on it (and it's worse)
How is wide coming along?
How do you check rust version?
21:24
not quickly :P
'tidy'
Well, that's to be expected.
:)
Ell
Ell
@exitc0de rustc --version
Do you still work on it even though you have a job now?
It didn't update!
How do I update rust -.-
Ell
Ell
21:26
@exitc0de are you sure you didn't just forget to install it
@Jefffrey I definitely stopped for the last six weeks whilst doing all the moving shit
Ell
Ell
@exitc0de the same way you update any piece of software
but I've done some work on it tonight.
rustc 0.13.0-nightly (63c4f22f2 2014-11-05 22:31:44 +0000)
Nice
Ell
Ell
21:26
rust isn't any different from any piece of software at all
Can you say that Rust is fast even though it is a language, given that it ships with its own "official" compiler?
since there is only one implementation, you can just say that when you say "Rust" you mean "The sole implementation".
When was the last version of Rust?
user1804599
I wish I were a PHB.
:O
Is there a clean way of updating rust though
like 'rustc update'
21:32
@exitc0de proof, of, concept.
do I need to write it in giant flaming capital lettesr?
Its not proof of concept
Rust
Its just in Alpha.
user1804599
Consider anything PoC until it reaches version 1.0.
those two are not meaningfully different.
It will eventually be stable
> eventually
could take another 10 years, for all we know
Ell
Ell
21:34
@exitc0de like I told you before
@exitc0de what language do you usually code in?
C++.
For a year.
On and off.
Ell
Ell
@exitc0de what platform on?
Rust takes ages to install
Mac I guess.
OS X.
Ell
Ell
21:35
how do you update c++ on OS X?
to the latest working one :P
Is there a clean way of updating c++ on OS X?
like clang++ update
No.
I don't know.
why dafuq would you want to update to the latest nightly
unless you want to not be able to compile any code
Exactly
@rightføld can you recommend a book for clojure?
I just use clang C++ 14 which comes with Xcode :D
I get your point though.
user1804599
21:37
@Jefffrey No.
user1804599
I don't learn languages from books.
noice
user1804599
> Noice is a Swedish Punk rock group from Gustavsberg formed In 1977.
user1804599
Me gusta.
Does Rust normally take more than 10 minutes to 'make install'?
user1804599
21:38
@Jefffrey I learned Clojure from clojure.org and #clojure.
Learning by coding.
I get it.
Ell
Ell
@exitc0de more than 10 minutes to make makes sense
Really?
Ell
Ell
so if you haven't built before you do make install, then yes
user1804599
21:39
Come to #clojure Jefffrey!
ok
fuck I don't have the IRC client anymore
user1804599
Install LimeChat. It's good.
I'm surprised the biggest chat room on stack overflow is this quiet
because Sunday
or something
I wish make installed alphabetically so I could get an indication of progress.
Oh wait, I think it does
Its at 'M'
Wait, code completion?
Oh noes, back to 'A'.
Yup, limechat is good.
The one I was using before didn't have the "automatically identify yourself" thingy. I had to use /msg NickServ manually :c
I'm lazy.
this one time
I messaged NickServer
Ah LLVM takes hours to install I swear.
>.<
@exitc0de you're building LLVM?
21:47
Rust does.
@exitc0de how much free RAM do you have?
Oh crap.
I have 8 in total
Why?
I'm scared now.
then it may succeed
How long does it take?
IIRC <4gb doesn't work
21:48
Its been 20 mins.
@exitc0de go to bed, it might be done tomorrow
also did you use make -j <number_of_virtual_cores> ?
No make, make install
make && make install
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey I do this :L
cancel (ctrl+c, don't worry it'll keep around the progress you had)
Why?
21:50
type make -j 8 && make install
it allows make to use parallel processes
@Jefffrey You just have to use your NS password as the server password
Any IRC client has that
Or SASL auth
8 to be precise
Apparently the one I had before didn't have that.
OK, did that
And I don't remember which was, but it was not free.
21:51
if you want your build machine to be useful for other things (music, browsing) while compiling use your number of cores - 1 or stuff might start becoming very slow
ok
Are you sure it continues from where left off?
Hopefully.
yes
Ell
Ell
@exitc0de it'd be pretty bad if it didn't
not exactly
you cancelled the compilation of one file
Ell
Ell
you wouldn't need a programme for it, that's just be a script
21:52
but that's insignificant
I think its nearly done
Its now 'rustc: x86_64_apple-darwin blah blah'
It looks different, it must be nearly done.
sooo what does this mean? in each case, find a string of minimum length in (0, 1)* not in the language corresponding to each of the given regular expression
it means, " in each case, find a string of minimum length in (0, 1)* not in the language corresponding to each of the given regular expression"
Crap, need to quit chrome for memory
Bye!
@corvid it means that you are given a regular expression
@corvid and you need to find the smallest string consisting of the alphabet {0, 1}
that doesn't match the regular expression
@corvid so if the regular expression is 10* the shortest string that doesn't match that is Λ
Hello guys
I farted.
quick question
no.
21:58
:(
well
that was a quick answer indeed
goodbye!
I am known for my stunningly quick answers
your gf says that you're stunningly quick in more ways than one
slow question

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