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3:00 PM
room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk
 
This is dumb
 
what the fuck?
 
Fuck this shit anyway I'm leaving call me when they're all gone
 
"oh no people are talking in a CHAT ROOM"
 
3:00 PM
ALRIGHT EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN
 
Why is the lounge in flux.
I'm confused.
 
Just drop the fucking topic.
 
because drama
 
@thecoshman honestly if you don't like people talking, leave the room.
 
You're all incapable of talking about it anyway.
 
3:00 PM
FUCK STOP MESSING WITH THE ROOM
 
user3010322
Getting your symbol thing to compile properly in VC++ is a nightmare @Rapptz ;~;
 
@thecoshman if you want to set gallery mode, at least man up and deal with the access requests.
I dealt with every single one, as far as I noticed.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I started, but then etienne rolled it back.
 
Also, who the fuck removed @jalf from the whitelist?
 
is an access grant permanent?
 
3:01 PM
Yes.
 
or rather, until removal?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Someone with a modicum of sense? ;)
 
can someone give me access?
 
@jalf By asking that question, you imply that anyone who questions the approach or philosophy of modern feminism is inherently against women's equality. It is a red herring. No, I am not against the advances in equality of the last several decades, and nothing I've said implies that I am.
 
I couldn't talk while in gallery
 
3:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I might never have been on it explicitly. Perhaps I was just a room owner last time it was relevant?
 
Neither could I but that's only because you're all raging sexists
 
@nightcracker I did. I accepted all requests.
 
@Chris Feminism has never been, is not, and will never be, about inflicting inequalities upon men. Just erasing the inequalities that affected women negatively. If you disagree with that goal, you are a horrible person.
 
<taps out>
 
@jalf look, I agree that "women deserve as much respect as men". But (to me) feminism is about "women are the same as men so they should be treated the same as men". And this is a total bullshit.
 
3:02 PM
@jalf You're still doing it. Stop.
 
@Chris What you have said strongly implies that either you are against equality for women, or you don't actually know what feminism is. I'm willing to accept that it might be the latter
 
@Chris Doing what, telling you what feminism means? Yeah, evil, evil me
 
</feminism>
 
lol flags
 
3:02 PM
Flags? On that? The fuck?
 
@jalf so how do you know that these inequalities are the result of patriarchy/sexism?
 
@Abyx Lucky then that you are not the person who gets to define what feminism is, then, don't you think?
 
Feminism isn't what you define it as, and I am not what you define me as. I am independent, and have my own opinions.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Does it matter?
 
you guys know that flagging stuff is a surefire way to get SO mods in here that will take less subtle approaches in muting stuff than simply asking?
 
3:03 PM
@Chris Feminism kind of is what feminists define it to be though
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why not? It's someone being offensively sexist and suggesting that women should not be equal to men. What else are flags for?
 
Every time you say, "If you don't X, then you are Y", you're in the weeds.
 
@nightcracker One can only hope.
 
Sigh.
 
@jalf yeah it matters if you believe in meritocracy
 
user3010322
3:04 PM
Well, you shouldn't flag something mid-discussion...
 
std::to_string doesn't accept strings or chars...
 
user3010322
People should be allowed to at least hash things out...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I meant the flags on jalf's stuff. And even then flagging is stupid.
 
user3010322
@gnzlbg It probably shouldn't. :3c
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, sorry, I didn't see those (as I don't see jalf's garbled nonsense)
 
3:04 PM
The flags are stupid.
 
I mean, I don't agree with what @Abyx, but silencing him is stupid.
 
He's talking to me, so if I'm not offended, there's no reason anyone else should be.
 
^ that.
 
It's best to just not talk about your opinions in this room. Whether they agree or disagree with the general consensus of this room it's best to just avoid expressing your opinion on a 'heated' topic like this one.
 
@Chris is a stupid, arrogant, ignorant, asshole.
 
3:05 PM
@jalf There are two obvious problems there: first, different people define "feminism" differently, and some of those definitions differ from yours considerably. Second, exactly what constitutes "inequality", "equal treatment", and so on is (again) open to wildly varying definitions.
 
I'm talking to Rapptz, btw.
 
Nah.
 
@ThePhD why? It converts a value to a string. A generic to_string would convert any value, and if I give it a string, I expect to get the same string.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hm?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, I understand how you can ignore him. I mean, you both hate being wrong.
 
user3010322
3:05 PM
@gnzlbg But you already have a string.
 
@EtiennedeMartel heehee
 
^offense
 
user3010322
Why would you run it through std::to_string ?
 
@ThePhD but I dont have static_if to check
 
@EtiennedeMartel It never happens, but yeah I bet I wouldn't enjoy it if it did
 
3:05 PM
@Rapptz Dunno. Apparently it's not offensive if I say offensive things about someone to someone else. So, just covering my bases.
 
user3010322
@gnzlbg You have SFINAE instead.
 
I'm generally opposed to any type of "ism" used to label behavior that is meant to imply "acting like a grownup"
 
user3010322
And overloading.
 
Ok, here's the deal: you can define feminism in whichever way you like. You can define it as "the belief that martians make excellent pancakes" if you like. But when debating the merits of feminism, it is helpful to use a definition that every participant agrees on
 
user3010322
3:06 PM
Write an overload that takes a std::string for your function and does no conversion with it.
 
@nightcracker 404 :(
 
@ThePhD I have a 20 line function, I'm not going to dupplicate 99% of the code using SFINAE. I have to write a to_string_ function that always gives me a string if it can.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I just randomly hacked an url as a subtle hint that you can always get a room
 
Anyway, you flag-mad crazy people, have a good day. I'm going to go back to coding, of all things.
 
user3010322
@gnzlbg Just write a personal_namespace::to_string with the behavior your want, then.
 
3:07 PM
@jalf Never going to happen.
 
@nightcracker no u this is the lounge we lounge and chat
 
Feminism, according to feminists, is about equality for women; about erasing inequalities that hurt women. Not about introducing new inequalities to hurt men. Given this definition, I hope we can all agree that "feminism is a pretty sensible concept". If we adopt a different definition, then sure, feminism might well be the greatest evil ever
 
don't like it go elsewhere!!!1
nobody forced you here
 
@gnzlbg :S I don't expect that.
 
@ThePhD it still doesn't give sense to std::to_string
 
3:08 PM
@jalf I don't think there is a strict definition in the first place. it's an evolving social process, it constantly changes in time and it can appear differently in different places.
 
But then, I find the existence of to_string awkward.
 
Noun: feminism (countable and uncountable, plural feminisms)
  1. (dated) The state of being feminine. [from 1851; less common after 1895]
  2. 1996, Jan Jindy Pettman, Worlding Women: A feminist international politics, pages ix-x:
 
@Abyx Sure, that's why I included the definition I chose to use
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why not? I expect things like to_string, and make_* to have some identity property. Just like a static_cast.
 
@nightcracker hehe, onebox still disappointing.
 
user3010322
3:09 PM
I wonder if make_unique moves an already unique pointer through itself.
 
user3010322
That'd be top-lel, really.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I like how it includes the dated definition and cuts the current one off mid-sentence
 
static_cast satisfies the identity
which is how it should be
 
@gnzlbg I dunno what I expect of to_string(""), but I don't have a convincing case neither for nor against ""s, nor "\"\""s.
 
@ThePhD What does that mean
 
user3010322
3:10 PM
@CatPlusPlus Just for what @gnzlbg was saying about std::to_string returning the same std::string if it gets given one.
 
user3010322
Quite honestly, std::to_string is a bit weird because of formatting and all that jazz, so...
 
this stupid Preet guy is still commenting on my answer about how his answer got downvoted
 
I still don't get it
 
@gnzlbg Interesting that you bring it up. make_tuple makes a tuple of its arguments, incl. in the case of receiving a single tuple. So the result is not, in a sense, the same tuple—and make_tuple never performs the identity operation. Shouldn’t to_string of a string make a string a of a string?
 
make_ functions are different from to_ functions
 
user3010322
3:11 PM
@CatPlusPlus He said make_* functions to have some identity property like static_cast<T> (some_T). I was just saying how it'd be weird a bit.
 
2 mins ago, by gnzlbg
@R.MartinhoFernandes why not? I expect things like to_string, and make_* to have some identity property. Just like a static_cast.
 
user3010322
Also what @LucDanton said.
 
interesting post that relates to the Lounge:
18
Q: How can moderators prevent an 'in-crowd' forming?

Tom MedleyAs sites age and grow, it is inevitable that groups of older, more experienced users will tend to hang together and support each other. This is great, but it can go too far, to the extent that the community of the site can become impenetrable to new users who can be looked down on by older user...

@Rapptz his answer is now actually pretty good.
 
make_ functions are shorthands to construct objects, to_ functions do conversions
 
to_string being identity makes sense
 
3:12 PM
@ThePhD I say I expect, not that they have. Make functions are constructing a new object, but to_string sounds like it is "converting" something to a string, or stringifying something.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I didn't downvote it or read it in the first place.
 
Otherwise it's repr territory
 
@CatPlusPlus But that distinction is never made clear.
 
user3010322
@gnzlbg True enough!
 
@gnzlbg No identity for make_* then?
 
3:13 PM
I expect to_ functions to be identity
 
to_string... makes a string. And that's it.
 
make_ identity is weird as fuck
 
user3010322
Maybe they should have called it make_string
 
user3010322
since it technically makes a string.
 
user3010322
... In a roundabout, obscure way.
 
user3010322
3:13 PM
But it makes one!
 
@LucDanton I don't know.
 
What have we here. Another Stack Overflow outage?
 
C++ doesn't have a repr protocol so I wouldn't expect to_string to suddenly have it vOv
 
user3010322
repr?
 
Fixed my bug.
 
3:14 PM
I'm heading home. Have fun all
 
Just warning.
 
user3010322
A google search gives nothing.
 
@CatPlusPlus you could argue that the entire ostream << thing is as close as you can get to a repr interface in c++
 
@CatPlusPlus It's not a "for display" thing either.
 
3:14 PM
@ThePhD returns the string representation of an object in python
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Me too! But don't tell the danton; he might get (even more) depressed
 
@nightcracker It's not because locales.
 
what do you think about Chinese feminism?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes fuck whoever ever made fucking locales
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I warned.
Rest for a minute.
 
3:15 PM
Yeah fuck users
 
PSA: I kicked Aaron.
 
RIP Aaron
 
Can we play ping pong with him
 
> but girls with an average or ugly appearance will find it difficult
@AaronKyleKilleen sic
 
3:15 PM
lol
I googled for std::make_
 
It'll be like good ol IRC
 
@LucDanton I think make functions are like monad return, and that kinds of fits well with make_unique, make_tuple, and friends.
 
> This STD makes crickets want to have way more sex
@LucDanton Identity for make_ is totally absurd once you consider they're shorthands for constructors
 
It’s a metafunction so that’s cheating, but std::make_signed_t<std::vector<T>> is std::vector<T>
 
to_string feels more like a cast, or serialization, and that is why i expected it to satisfy identity
 
3:17 PM
> These kinds of girls hope to further their education in order to increase their competitiveness. The tragedy is, they don’t realize that as women age, they are worth less and less
@AaronKyleKilleen oh wow, it got worse. Lots
 
user3010322
Haha.
 
user3010322
@sehe That article nosedives pretty fast.
 
user3010322
At least, the sources the article pulls from.
 
@gnzlbg No, if it's serialisation the only thing you should expect is roundtripping.
 
@ThePhD that
 
3:17 PM
@Rapptz Didn't say you had.
 
user3010322
I, uh.
 
See? That's why I find to_string awkward and why I can't build a case for any behaviour.
It's not clear what to_string is for.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep. Weird indeed.
 
user3010322
I want to sneak a tiny addendum into the now-dead conversation. :c
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Just expressing why I'm annoyed over his comments in my answer tbh.
 
3:18 PM
@ThePhD Er, no.
 
He turned my answer into his soapbox.
 
@jalf well it differs from the definition on wiki
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes ;~;
 
@sehe I'd rather you did not ignite this again.
 
@LucDanton Identity points for a particular instance of a function does not imply identity is required/wanted on the entire family of functions.
 
3:19 PM
@Rapptz Okay.
 
that's like saying just because f(x) = x is identity everywhere any function with "f" in the name should have identity - totally absurd
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You sound like a woman
 
@nightcracker template<typename U> using alias = std::make_signed_t<std::vector<U>>;
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Good. I like women.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sexist
 
3:20 PM
okay now I think someone is abusing their mod powers
seriously
 
5 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@AaronKyleKilleen I warned.
 
what makes you think that? this is our lounge with self-chosen owners
 
Someone abused my hospitality.
Don't go on about it, or I'll get mods on it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes warned that you will abuse your powers? how nice
 
if you don't like it here there are plenty of other places
 
3:21 PM
Door is this way -->
 
@Abyx Warned that you'd be out of line if you pursued that route.
 
would you guys consider list<int, char, float> to be 'equal' to list<char, int, float>?
 
<-- or this way
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what rule did I break?
 
@Rapptz No.
 
3:22 PM
@AaronKyleKilleen Not using reply arrows.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's out of your line and maybe a few other people.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Whoever behaves badly might be kicked off by the discretion of an owner (a.k.a The Dick Rule™). (Note that bitching — rather than objecting — about removal according to these rules might be seen as bad behaviour and might prevent you from getting back on the list any time soon.)
Yes, these are vague. That's no accident. The C++ room is a kind of anarchic democracy, and it's intentionally prone to subjective feelings. It's a Lounge, after all.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mmm? Did I? Someone else posted it, it didn't get discussed (outside my quotes) and I haven't seen it before...
 
@Abyx that will get you kicked?
 
@Rapptz they're not interchangeable in code from what I know
so that doesn't fit my definition of equality in any way
 
3:22 PM
damnit I pressed the wrong one, see this is why I din't like reply arrows
 
@sehe It was posted as a late addition to an already dying heated discussion.
 
guys can we please just fucking drop it
 
@Rapptz Depends; what does it mean? tuple-like?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah. A type list.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh. Why was that. I completely missed things, it appears
 
3:23 PM
@Rapptz Alright, fine, they are equal then.
 
@Rapptz Type list or type set?
;p
 
list!
 
Then no they are not equivalent.
 
@sehe Because he didn't let go as recommended.
 
@sehe things that were better missed.
 
3:24 PM
I love it.
I mean, missing it
 
Everyone else did.
 
Only the sort of people who use space indentation
What do you guys use?
 
It seems that ofstream has seekp to select in which position you write, but you cannot have multiple streams to the same file :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit PSA: I kicked @Lightness :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit strawberry
 
3:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You did?
 
user3010322
Kiwi 4 lyfe.
 
@nightcracker I'm just saying that this kick came as a complete surprise to me and I linked something that I thought was funny, namely that the Chinese Women's Federation has a very unique idea of what feminism is
 
user3010322
Kiwis are the best.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No.
 
kiwis are sour
and not to mention bad
watermelons ftw
 
3:25 PM
Kiwis are Kawai
 
user3010322
Watermelons are good too, but come on.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
user3010322
Watermelon Kiwi Bubble Tea...
 
user3010322
Mmm. MMMMMMMMM.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No.
 
user3010322
3:25 PM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
 
user3010322
So good.
 
user3010322
genkidesu.
 
srsly tho, *melons are the supreme fruits
 
Well if you could, y'know, not lie about randomly punishing me, that'd be great.
 
user3010322
げんきです!
 
user3010322
3:25 PM
@AlexM. Honeydew,
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I'm just saying that I warned I'd kick people out if they'd still be on that topic when I finished fixing a bug.
 
user3010322
those beautiful mother fucking Honeydew melons.
 
That's the rule you broke.
 
@ThePhD yes <3
 
user3010322
Honeydew Kiwi Milkshake.
 
3:26 PM
I'll appreciate if you don't continue.
 
user3010322
If a person came up to me and offered me a well-made honeydew kiwi milkshake
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes @LightnessRacesinOrbit is right: you shouldn't lie about such things. Having said it, you're now obliged to kick him.
 
user3010322
with just the right amount of milky goodness...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes alright I guess I missed that
 
user3010322
Mmm.
 
3:27 PM
People who kick you for TK when you take out the vehicle everyone's been trying to destroy for seven minutes, because the tit was ineffectively standing next to it when it went up. Wankshaft.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes can you please create your own room and kick people there?
 
Gosh, that tense dissonance.
 
@Abyx This is that room. That's what you're not getting.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so, it's your fault for fixing that bug early
 
@Abyx This is my room, in case you haven't noticed.
 
3:27 PM
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it is our room.
 
You don't own rooms you're owner of!
wait
 
fuck this shit, I ate a sandwich and it's almost time to go home again
 
Certainly not
 
@Abyx So you're suggesting he makes his own room with only himself in it, and kicks people?
 
3:28 PM
one more pizza-less night I guess
 
If you want to go rage on meta about how some evil room owner does not let you have a shouting match about feminism, be my guest.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'd love that :D
 
I'll validate your claims.
 
stirring up meta is megalols
 
If you want, I can write the question for you.
 
3:28 PM
@Abyx No, it is our room (speaking as a room owner, which you're not).
 
Otherwise, shut up.
 
You can also make your own room which you won't be kicked from!
 
In the meantime, Stack Overflow still down from here
 
it could be yours if you'd create it but it's not the case here. you just got owner rights but it doesn't give you rights to do whatever you want here.
 
3:29 PM
I have no problems with with my legitimacy as a room owner.
 
You can leave anyyyyyyyyyyytime
 
:|
 
@Abyx It sorta does. That's what being a room owner means. Have a link Meta Stack Overflow
 
@CatPlusPlus concur. I once had a hard time explaining this in this room. However I experimented with ignoring a few times since.
It doesn't really add value
 
@Abyx well apparently it does and if you don't like it then you can get out
 
user3010322
3:30 PM
Damnit.
 
user3010322
I hate ambiguous overloads.
 
@Abyx Who cares.
 
user3010322
Shit makes things SO hard. ;~;
 
That's a weird fetish
 
Why is Abyx still here? Seriously. He is clearly not in tune with the values of our society. Go back to your own country chat room, I say.
 
user3010322
3:31 PM
Someone had a trick for making operators only appear when the proper functions were using namespace'd in...
 
@Abyx To do whatever you want, no--but it does give a few specific rights, including the right to kick people.
 
user3010322
I think it was Robot's wheels?
 
@Abyx And just in case you missed that: sometime back a mod came him, removed all owners and instated a few owners they though appropriate for that position.
Go on about ownership legitimacy as much as you want.
 
@ThePhD trainer wheels
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't miss that.
 
3:32 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not that it really matters, but that was a Community Manager, not a mod.
 
user3010322
> Overloaded function object
For when you need a function object that combines several others (like, for example, when using boost::apply_visitor)
 
Last time I looked here, someone was prattling on about legalising child abuse, so I left. Now wots going on with the kicking etc? I'ts so depressing that I'm going to do some work.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^ Where is this magic?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Of course, one of those owners immediately decided to reverse the entire thing and put all the original owners back. And then got lauded for it. That was an odd day.
Well, not all - sorry Puppy :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you live in wrong time and wrong country. you probably might want to live in USSR where you'd be able to ban people IRL for not agreeing with you. or maybe in a Nazi country.
 
3:33 PM
What features can be modified in a game such as Space fortress? Like adding a start button etc

Space fortress

http://images.sciencedaily.com/2011/01/110113213058-large.jpg

http://caravel.sc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/corso_fig5.png

game-design
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It wasn't immediate.
 
@Rapptz It was immediate at the point of his waking up and entering the Lounge, yes.
 
1 message moved to bin
 
But we don't need to go over that again.
A dark period in our history, for sure.
 
This isn't democracy or a country or whatever
 
3:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes So owners can just whimsically tell the group to cease having a conversation and then kick people who don't listen?
 
@CatPlusPlus It is kind like a country. But it's not a democracy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Enough with directly attacking people. Disagree if you want, but do it with a bit of decorum.
 
@Abyx The only disagreement between me and Aaron was about the point where the conversation should have ended. You'll notice I wasn't taking part in it. As a room owner, I reserve the right to have absolute rule over that matter. It's pretty much the one thing I can say I that about.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Of course; why not?!
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Yes, that's how these things work on Internet
 
3:35 PM
@James you should ask it on gamedev.se
 
Enjoy your stay!
The function of moderators is to shut people up
2
 
@James Essentially any feature can be changed--just a question of how much work you're willing to put into changing it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's more of a people's republic really
 
When it's needed
 
> I can say I that about
I love how the "shut people up" gets starred (inc. by me) and not "enjoy your stay" ;)
 
3:37 PM
You can check out any time you like and it's recommended even
 
Absolutely
Doctor's orders
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Not really. A people's republic was a dictatorship pretending to be a republic. There's no pretense here: this is a dictatorship. The community managers reign supreme.
 
@CatPlusPlus you can check out any time you like but you can never leave
 
3:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you say it like it's only you who was talking with Aaron here, without other people around.
 
Oh you can leave
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes have yourself.
 
@Abyx I wasn't talking with anyone, and no one was still talking about it when the deadline I gave was up.
(Lies: I was talking to @gnzlbg about his overload thing)
 
@JerryCoffin well they at least pretend to be fair and reasonable no?
 
I love how you order everybody to shut up about it and then make your own post on meta pretending to be Abyx. Voted to close as no longer reproducible.
 
3:40 PM
meh and now we became meta police. talk about evolution.
 
http://stackoverflow.com / http://stackexchange.com and our other sites are having ISP issues. Returning soon.
 
See even servers are telling you to shut up
 
haha
Robor paid SE to shut down for five minutes three hours
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :|
 
3:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's a hypothetical scenario :P
 
Has anyone read the executors and schedulers proposal?
 
Nope.
 
@gnzlbg which one?
 
@Abyx the revision 3: n3785
 
Tell that feminist to make you a sandwich? — Pomster 11 secs ago
ahaha
 
3:42 PM
@AaronKyleKilleen Some did make a little pretense in that direction for a while, but none (that I recall) ever put much effort into it, and the little they did was dropped pretty quickly.
 
mods are deleting comments already
(hi guys!)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Some flags kill comments automatically.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I find it hard to believe that "Take it to the street yo" got flagged out in 30 seconds' flat
 
Oh.
lol
I thought you mean the sandwich thing.
 
@gnzlbg I think it should consider possible ASIO standardization, and it doesn't.
 
3:45 PM
> Deleted this as it was starting to attract unnecessary and unwanted comments.
hahahahahahahaha
How relevant
 
ahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah those comments were so bad
 
Guess point proven!
 
well I hope that proves that Abyx's meta recourse is unsound
 
@Abyx n4046 is so much better :/ I just read the old one and was thinking, they should have defined concepts for all this stuff...
 
Here's an example of mods shutting people up
Hope that helps!
 
3:46 PM
btw
Nice try flagging me out, also
butthurt much
 
Someone flagged 'twats' laff
 
user3010322
The horrrooor.
 
This is why you don't express your opinions in chat.
 
@JerryCoffin But aren't they afraid there will be revolts?
 
internet revolts
 
3:47 PM
@Rapptz Not at all. It's why you learn to express your opinions eloquently.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Shit.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah.
 
what is happening :(
 
user3010322
Shhh.
 
@JerryCoffin He could have expressed his opinion as eloquently as possible and I have no doubt in my mind that people would still shit on it.
 
user3010322
3:48 PM
@AlexM. Go back to your room, sweetie.
 
Some people need an explanation of how Internet moderation works
 
@AlexM. not much
 
Expression of opinions that go against the overall stance of the room is just a bad idea.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Most were, yes--that's why they prioritized military spending.
 
No matter how nicely you say it.
 
3:49 PM
@Rapptz No it's not.
ducks
 
@CatPlusPlus well at least in the last internet forum I got kicked out of, the way it worked was they had a set of rules and a set of mods to enforce the rules, not just a bunch of people banning people they don't like
 
@AaronKyleKilleen My kick was completely orthogonal to liking you or not.
(I don't like you)
 
@Rapptz I'm not sure which opinion you're talking about, but some people certainly manage to express opinions that oppose those of the majority without generally getting "shit upon" for it.
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Out of how many internet forums have you been kicked so far?
 
3:51 PM
All of them probably
 
@JerryCoffin Any controversial topic, really.
 
That's a lot of internet forums.
 
user3010322
@Rapptz Just look at Republicans. :3c
 
user3010322
/snipe
 
/Americentric political bullshit not welcome on the global stage*
 
3:52 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit aww and I had a whole party planned for it
 
Anyway, duty calls. TTYAL.
 
Adios.
 
@Mgetz make a new chat room
@Rapptz <3]
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I already explained why it happened. I would appreciate it if you stopped spreading such false claims about my behaviour.
 
Can you imagine if Puppy and Bartek had been here for this?
 
3:52 PM
seriously... people can't take a joke anymore
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit one or two, I only remember one, but the one I got kicked from I actually got kicked earlier and came back under a different name and got kicked again
 
@Mgetz hahaha you missed my joke, doofus
@AaronKyleKilleen So you admit to ban evasion as a behavioural pattern?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well I'm not going to argue with you, I don't want to get kicked
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I claim american and thus geopolitically retarded!
 
3:53 PM
> I'm not going to argue with you
lol
@Mgetz I'll allow it
 
Negative reinforcement works
 
no it doesn't
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit if doing something one time is a pattern then sure
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Ah, so, that's interesting because you only admitted to one ban evasion before. Now you're saying you did it multiple times?
yes i have. question: does anybody know how to dimensionalize a php file. — user3524375 2 mins ago
 
3:57 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well that was sarcasm the joke being that doing something one time is a pattern
 
Sorry, "dimensionalize" is not a term that's really used in PHP development. You should clarify what that means. — deceze 2 mins ago
Honestly, why apologise to the guy? Fucking weird.
 
> Dimensionalize is when you declare an object
lol
 
@StackedCrooked there's no ADL there.
 

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