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09:00
okay, in simpler words then
your bragging about your perception of your own intelligence is pathetic and annoying.
@BartekBanachewicz in simpler words, "shut the fuck up"
@thecoshman that's even simpler orite
@BartekBanachewicz about this you are correct.
@TonyTheLion shh, don't tell him such things
Argh.
PhoneNumber isn't hashable.
09:02
now... is it just me... or does the presence of a garden tend to make properties not appartments?
oooh, this one is twice the size
and a much nicer looking area
probably too much though
I think I'll switch from vim to ST
Good choice.
I don't want a garden
too much maintenance that I can't do physically
I like the idea of having one, just don't want to have to look after one
having to mow grass like every month, to never sit out there ¬_¬ balls to that
man, this apartment has drop 25% since March... would need to drop another 25% (from that march price) to come close to what I should consider
rent or buy?
09:10
buy
though might look at renting
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@TonyTheLion we have a large garden and I'm the maintainer of it :(
I just don't like how it's not fully yours :S you could get told they want you leave
@Ell yea been there, never again
09:11
@BartekBanachewicz What's a megabyte
@CatPlusPlus lol, leave the poor man alone :P
I grew up with large gardens, and in the days I could still walk without being in agony all the time, I also had to do lots of the maintenance
@CatPlusPlus 1000000 bytes
Hint: you lose at this question either way
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09:12
@TonyTheLion The bamboo is worst! We tried to get rid of it 4/5 years ago but some how it keeps sprouting in random places in the garden
Its a trap
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@CatPlusPlus 1024 kilobytes? :P
@Ell Get a panda
@TonyTheLion was it the sugary that made things worse?
@Ell that's 1 KikB
09:13
@thecoshman its a long story, and its not something I want to tell on a public place like the lounge.
1024 kibibytes is one mebibyte.
correct answer: you advertise as 1000 bytes, sell as 1024.
@TonyTheLion fair enough
Nobody cares about mebibytes
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oh yeah.
@TonyTheLion maybe we'll set up a press conference :P
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09:14
one megabyte is 1*10^6 bytes
@thecoshman hahaha
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that's right isn't it?
1,2,3,6,9,12 ...
pretty easy to remember
BTW I came up with a nice (IMO) idea yesterday
of representing the turn sequence of players as an infinite list
and then changePlayer game = game & playerSequence %~ tail
Congrats on discovering cyclic lists? :v
09:17
(or drop 1 instead of tail if you prefer)
@CatPlusPlus yeah but it's not just that! imagine a player is removed from the game
removePlayer game player = game & playerSequence %~ (filter (/= player))
Still same thing
oh come on
yes okay I discovered cyclic lists -.-
About time
seralization of such a thing is suck though
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Isn't it just a list and a current index?
09:20
I can't really send an infinite list as JSON.
@Ell no, it's an infinite list.
Better to keep the source list as-is and cyclisise it on demand
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@BartekBanachewicz I mean that's how you serialise it
@CatPlusPlus that's what I ended up doing.
nice, so the idea was ok.
Maybe you could have a zipper and not bother with making cycles
09:21
That might make it easier to remove players without losing the current position
Oh don't ask me about zippers I only know that they exist
And can be used to move around a data structure
Haskell wiki is not Hackage
until I get the console I should probably not let the TV gather dust and instead turn my laptop into an emulator for older consoles
maybe even play some PC titles with the controller
hmm
technically there's nothing stopping me from doing that
09:24
@AlexM. ePSXe is okay, the PS2 emulator is a bit harder to get right
@AlexM. steam has a whole category of "couch coop" and "playable with a controller" I think
@BartekBanachewicz I remember trying to play the FF with Fran once on the laptop, it ran decently, but in some areas the framerate was dropping pretty bad (rarely, but still)
Monaco is a great co-op game.
@BartekBanachewicz my biggest annoyance with PC titles w/ controller support is that they don't provide a virtual keyboard like on consoles
I remember playing FF once, getting bored after 5 minutes and uninstalling it
so you still need to use a real keyboard
09:26
@AlexM. what would you need that for?
What are you playing that requires typing words
some games require you to enter stuff like names
that's done like once.
for the whole game.
"name your character" done.
I guess, yeah
You can always get a wireless keyboard
09:27
the ones with builtin touchpads are nice for that
I might get one of those, my current crappy wireless keyboard wouldn't be able to do anything at that distance (probably because it's bluetooth crap)
Meh, nonlocal inserted_user = user is a syntax error. :(
nothing wrong with bluetooth
maybe it's old BT
doesn't bluetooth have a very short range? this one worked fine only if the receiver thingy was ~1m away
@AlexM. 4+ has 10m
09:29
I was expecting more tbh, it wasn't some sort of cheap ass A4Tech
1m was 2.x I think
it's an HP and it was quite expensive-ish
class 1 devices can theoretically get up to 100m
it's also unusable in games like CS, sometimes it lags (very little lag, but enough to delay a quick weapon switch and so on)
@BartekBanachewicz that may be the reason
i found that too
09:31
> Connecting two Class 1 devices with both high sensitivity and high power can allow ranges far in excess of the typical 100m, depending on the throughput required by the application. Some such devices allow open field ranges of up to 1 km and beyond between two similar devices without exceeding legal emission limits
heh
radio communications are fun
I wonder if my STM could do that
CS1.6 became pointless when I got a wireless keyb
i actually would not go back to one now even though i never game in pc anymore. huh
hm this 100m BT dongle costs $50
I wonder how expensive are the PCI-based ones with separate antennas
sexy
I can't believe how hard it is to google and find a page which lists all of the views available by default in android O_o
all I get is a bunch of tutorials teaching me how to use specific views wtf
uh oh
this one is about $100
@AlexM. Try docs maybe?
09:40
unittest.mock is nice.
can I std::transform inplace?
std::transform(perfectResult.begin(), perfectResult.end(), perfectResult.begin(), std::abs);
sigh
well, still better than a for loop
Looks perfectly fine to me.
09:44
I like abs
I'd prefer perfectResult = transform(perfectResult, std::abs)
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@BartekBanachewicz what's wrong with this? o.O
oh
@BartekBanachewicz Then write that.
or simply transform(perfectResult, std::abs)
@PolymorphicPotato it would introduce a new convention that other developers don't know
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@BartekBanachewicz you mean std::transform(perfectResult, std::abs) right?
09:45
@Ell yep
namespace bartek {
    template<typename T, typename F>
    void transform(T& xs, F f) {
        using std::begin; using std::end;
        transform(begin(xs), end(xs), begin(xs), f);
    }
}
I think I'd like transform_inplace and transform as two separate functions
@PolymorphicPotato forward f
Copy all the things.
09:46
@BartekBanachewicz that's a bluetooth doofer? It's massive
@thecoshman 100m range.
@PolymorphicPotato actually I'll move it to utils fuck it.
@BartekBanachewicz I thought BT3 was already that range?
theoretical, yes
template<typename T, typename F>
void transform_inplace(T& xs, F&& f) {
    using std::begin; using std::end;
    transform(begin(xs), end(xs), begin(xs), std::forward<F>(f));
}
looks ok?
std::transform.
ouch right
I'm so glad I made that utils header
09:49
no point taking F by universal reference when transform takes it by value.
@Puppy wait what
may as well take by value and then move it.
@Puppy isn't forwarding more idiomatic in this case?
It will amount to the same, anyway
not really.
forwarding is only idiomatic when there's a chance in hell that it's going to make a difference to your program w.r.t. moves/copies/whatever.
whereas here it really won't.
so you're forwarding and using universal refs for nothing.
@BartekBanachewicz oh I see. Still, why do you want BT? let alone 100m range
09:51
eh changing that basing on whether transform takes by value or not seems weird
@thecoshman I don't get "why do you want BT" question
you don't use any BT-enabled equipment?
I have a phone that has bluetooth, but I don't use that 'feature'.
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oh room owners can kick now
I guess lounge chat is pointless to write then? :L
@thecoshman I use it a lot.
I guess I do have weemotes that I Was intending to setup with my computer for the giggles
@BartekBanachewicz really? IMO wifi or 3g (4g) beats BT
I've never used bluetooth in a decade of having bluetooth-enabled phones.
09:53
@thecoshman it's also a completely different thing
@BartekBanachewicz technically yes, but I've yet to need to use BT
"need" is a meh word.
the only thing I can think of is sharing data, but a cable or wifi is so much easier
Technically you don't "need" a smartphone, so what
oh come on now
09:54
it's more convenient to have one vOv
just as it's convenient to use BT sometimes.
I disagree
fine, I've yet to want to do something and thought BT was a good solution
I have BT speakers I use fairly often
I found a smartphone to be a fairly essential utility whenever leaving the house
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I need a smart phone for the navigation
09:55
@Puppy well, there are solutions that don't involve a smart phone
oh yeah
I have to buy myself a proper pair of wireless headphones for the go
@Ell no yo don't
fucking WP8 doesn't like the maps application for some reason
I need a smartphone to send pics to my mum and receive pics from her
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09:55
@thecoshman I do :P I wouldn't be able to deliver pizzas without it :L
stop taking away my cables!
also the battery life and connectivity my new phone has may well help transform my employment prospects by actually having a phone people can call me on
ever since she discovered facebook my life hasn't been the same
puppy needs to be able to stay in touch with all his friends when he ventures out into the world. wait... a double lie makes a truth, right..?
but BT headphones are so freaking expensive
09:55
@Ell maps dick butt
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@AlexM. I need a smartphone to send pics to your mum and receive pics from her ;)
@Ell you deliver pizzas?
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@BartekBanachewicz Yup :p
@Ell that means
@BartekBanachewicz to his face
09:56
hawaiian plz
... you're me!
@Ell oh get me one too
@LightnessRacesinOrbit damn
I just implemented the create user happy flow.
look at the bright side @Ell
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09:57
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sorry, we don't deliver to your area.
at least you have a job
@Ell is it true your guys sometimes sort of fake deliveries so you get to eat the wasted pizza?
But I don't want to implement error handling. :'(
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@BartekBanachewicz That is my thought exactly :)
I'm looking to replace it with a better job as soon as possible though :P
But I don't want to leave this job until I've found a new one
inb4 pizza doesn't exist in the swamp
no it's
inb4 pizza doesnt exist cos puppy doesnt like it
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@thecoshman Sometimes we get prank calls but make some of the pizzas anyway so we can eat them yeah :P
Please come back to the reasonable side of the line ಠ_ಠ
"it's a niche food"
okay let's don't mock puppy that much
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09:58
But we're not really allowed to do that so it happens seldom
@thecoshman literally wot m8
@bartek why not?
he's sad enough without us mocking him
reap what you sow is what you twats are always telling me
hahaha
@BartekBanachewicz nah
@Ell wink wink :P
I'm wearing a Rainbow Dash t-shirt.
keep us informed
the print is getting worn :(
@BartekBanachewicz pics
09:59
@thecoshman I use it for my headphones, to program my Arduino prototypes (true, that one is not done from my phone), and to control my telescope drive (which currently still can't drive shit because I need the half-H bridges).
@BartekBanachewicz rarity or bust

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