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sbi
3:02 PM
@DeadMG So do I, BTW.
 
the line between insanity and genius is measured only by success
and for me, that is yet to be determined
 
Oh, look, silly benchmarks are back.
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Q: About unique_ptr performances

codablank1 I often read that unique_ptr would be preferred in most situations over shared_ptr because unique_ptr is non-copyable and has move semantics; shared_ptr would add an overhead due to copy and ref-counting; But when I test unique_ptr in some situations, it appears it's noticably slower than its ...

 
Code doesn't even compile.
(Seems like it's missing an using namespace std;)
 
and an int main() { test(); }
 
Yeah, fixed it.
test shared_ptr : 0 microseconds.
test unique_ptr : 0 microseconds.
 
3:08 PM
compiler optimization for the WinRARâ„¢
 
I don't think I'll even bother looking at the code.
 
is it possible to implement operator -> as non member function ? (just thoery question)
 
Dammit! Serial upvoters around again!
 
feel free to serially upvote me
 
@DeadMG Well, the bad serial upvoters upvote bad posts.
 
3:10 PM
@user411102 No.
 
O_o
 
Like silly benchmark posts.
 
I wrote a perfectly solid and even (surprisingly) pleasant explanation of how the OP is an idiot
 
> operator-> shall be a non-static member function taking no parameters.
 
I wasn't even going to downvote, but seeing it at +1 I had to.
 
3:11 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes are you referring to me?
 
@user411102 No, no, I'm talking about the question linked above.
 
you know
I figure that it should be reasonably possible to prove that a C++ program has no memory leaks, if they follow Modern C++ guidelines
 
I'll upvote the person who actually noticed OP isn't even close to measuring what he's talking about.
 
@CatPlusPlus Matthieu did.
 
so did I
 
3:13 PM
With a sneaky ninja-edit.
 
@DeadMG I like that idea actually - you could probably even write a clang plugin to automate it
 
@CatPlusPlus Actually, I had it in before, it just wasn't very clear.
 
The best part of this question is that someone has favourited it.
 
sbi
@DeadMG OTOH, "my success is yet to be determined" is just a roundabout way to say "so far I didn't have any success". :)
@RMartinhoFernandes What are you talking about?
 
owch!
to be completely fair, my life is mostly still in the preparation stage
 
3:16 PM
@sbi Don't tell me you never saw a crappy question get voted up.
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Q: About unique_ptr performances

codablank1 I often read that unique_ptr would be preferred in most situations over shared_ptr because unique_ptr is non-copyable and has move semantics; shared_ptr would add an overhead due to copy and ref-counting; But when I test unique_ptr in some situations, it appears it's noticably slower (in acces...

 
I'm tempted to replace with .
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes But "a crappy question being upvoted" isn't exactly "serial upvoting", is it?
@CatPlusPlus Oh yeah, let's make that a tag synonym! :D
 
I was going to
 
@sbi - if it happens in the first few seconds of the question being posted it might indicate sock puppetry
 
but the silly-benchmarks tag doesn't exist yet
 
3:18 PM
@sbi Yeah, but "serial upvoter" is a catchy expression I stole from the thread about serial downvoting on Als.
 
ok, note to self
microseconds is not milliseconds
 
:)
Does the code actually use microseconds though?
 
Ah, hell, I'm going to try. Maybe I'll get Taxonomist.
 
sbi
@DeadMG That shouldn't be a problem. We each add to our most upvoted question for a day, which will turn us to gurus in that tag. If we do that today, we can have turned into a synonym of it by tomorrow evening.
 
@CatPlusPlus You won't, but it's a nice try :)
 
3:20 PM
lol
 
@sbi OMG, you're evil.
 
sbi
@awoodland Yeah, that might well be, but this still doesn't make it serial upvoting.
@RMartinhoFernandes However, it does have a different application already.
 
OK#
 
@DeadMG will be a pioneer, with a 3 upvotes already.
 
let's do it
official silly-benchmark tag, here we go
 
3:21 PM
It's done.
 
@CatPlusPlus ooh, oooh, I'm winning!
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Didn't you know?
This is still empty for me.
 
benchmark*s*.
 
Probably stale data.
 
anyone know a good place that offers high quality free sprites?
 
I think it should be singular. Most tags are.
Or maybe not.
 
do you like my tag wiki entry?
 
It'll get removed by a humourless mob anyway, but I can say I tried.
 
sbi
Oh, plural. Ok.
 
I still think that he must be flat out lying about the I/O or something similar
there's no other reason the compiler wouldn't chuck the whole lot
even ideone scrapped it
 
3:24 PM
Er, he compiles with no optimisations?
 
@DeadMG On ideone it nuked everything from orbit.
 
maybe
 
It's the only way to be safe.
 
but that doesn't explain the time discrepancy
 
@RMartinhoFernandes that's because there's no such thing as one design pattern. If you write one, they'll all appear in your code as if by magic
 
3:25 PM
lol
 
The Magic pattern.
 
lol
the AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean pattern
 
I see you've started retagging already, lol.
 
Here we go again.
Woah.
So many questions now.
 
I think @sbi is just picking them at random.
 
3:27 PM
You're not tagging correctly!
Some of those questions don't have benchmarks!
You could at least follow the tag wiki.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus No, I didn't. I took them from the top of my list.
 
it hasn't occurred to you that you're just being jerks now and abusing the tag system to insult people whose only crimes are to ask questions about a subject they don't know much of?
 
You're actually messing with actual decent content.
 
sbi
So we need at least 5 answers each, with combined at least 250 upvotes.
5 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
It'll get removed by a humourless mob anyway, but I can say I tried.
 
3:28 PM
You gotta unwind from time to time, even stacks know it.
I just tagged the original question, which is a silly benchmark, the conspiracy to get synonym'd to it is all @sbi. :P
 
sbi
13 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
I'm tempted to replace with .
 
@CatPlusPlus but I generally try to unwind in ways that don't involve making making fun of newbies or editing people's questions
 
sbi
Uh oh, it seems someone is removing the tags already.
@jalf, your doing?
 
@sbi In that question.
 
sbi
3:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus Oh.
I misunderstood then.
 
Edit wars! Let's throw food at each other, wooo!
There go my dreams about the badge. :(
 
sbi
Oh, the robot is cleaning it all up again. :( Of course, robots are supposed to be humorless.
 
I got mine for :P
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus Yeah. I thought that by tomorrow night I had a golden badge. That would have been so cool.
 
i'm back
anything of importance happen?
 
3:35 PM
@sbi I wouldn't mind it if you used low-quality content with at least some actual benchmarks in it for your plans, but I think just dropping the tag out of nowhere is pushing it.
 
I'll take that as a no
time for bf3
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Who would care if, out of 2M+ questions, a dozen are mis-tagged for 24hrs?
@DeadMG Yeah, @jalf acted all grown-up, and we've been shown that the robot has no humor. :)
 
@sbi if someone spots it there'll be an inquisition and all sorts. I imagine a certain young mod candidate would be quite keen to find a way to complain about you.
 
@sbi So what's new? :P
I didn't contribute to the silly-benchmarks tagging at all
 
Except for the tag wiki, that is.
:P
 
sbi
3:40 PM
@awoodland I've had enough, erm, disagreements with Jeff (stern warnings arriving by email included) to not to need a teenager to get the meta police set onto me.
 
@sbi apart from the people who asked the questions, you mean?
to be honest, I really really don't give a damn about Jeff or the mods or meta police or whatnot, but I don't like things that give [potentially new] users of the site a bad experience.
 
Good morning everyone!
 
anyway, I'd better head home. Going to the movies soon
 
sbi
@jalf Who would care if, out of 601991+ users, a dozen would be puzzled for 24hrs? (Really, I bet Jeff is alienating them at a much higher rate than all of us combined ever could.)
 
3:43 PM
@jalf What you watching?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes The Pedant, no doubt. :)
 
What's all this ruckus about tags and shit?
 
Nonsense, as usual.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel You start reading here.
Whistles.
 
Eh
All of this because some guy didn't know the golden rule of optimization?
 
sbi
3:50 PM
@EtiennedeMartel or because we get questions like this every day?
And it was a fun idea, too. :)
 
Well, if you really want to solve that particular problem, I don't think retagging every question will fix help.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel That leaves the other reason. :)
 
4:03 PM
I wonder why Jon Skeet doesn't try to go for a moderator spot.
 
He's too busy answering questions.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Because good moderators are those who rarely answer, and do much janitorial work anyway?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Why would he want to?
 
sbi
Interesting: A British long time study involving some 8000 probands found that kids who were smart above average in tests when they were 5 to 10 years old were 50% (men) or 100% (women) more likely to consume ecstasy or amphetamines between 15 and 30. That study, however, didn't ask about the frequency and quantity of drug consumption, only about the fact whether they had.
 
@sbi That's scary.
 
4:06 PM
Even though I'm 50% more likely, I haven't done it so far. Six years to go.
 
The average must be reeeally low.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Robots aren't affected by human drugs.
 
Yeah, they only need alcohol.
 
That reference is likely lost on him.
 
Argh, what's with people and circular dependencies. I swear, a question about it shows up every other day.
 
sbi
4:12 PM
@CatPlusPlus Let's create a tag synonym! :D
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Indeed, it is.
 
Moderator vote results: awoodland 189, genesis -1
 
It's actually -alot.
 
totals
I feel like I accomplished something, putting it below zero.
 
4:19 PM
+116/-171.
Also, this is not pin worthy.
 
@Xaade The score displays are way off, for some reason.
 
@CatPlusPlus it was for about 15 seconds.
 
if it's negatively scored it either shows 0,1 or -1
depending on how you personally voted
 
Let me feel accomplished.
 
sbi
@Xaade That's either a bug or a "feature" in the election page. That genesis guy is at 116-171.
Ah, you guys already said so.
Sorry.
 
4:22 PM
Approve tag edit!!!! (Please ^_^)
2 mins ago, by Xaade
Let me feel accomplished.
 
Xaade had 5 edit suggestions approved, and 1 edit suggestions rejected. X_X
My life's work....
 
@sbi Opened that and my dyslexia read, "Smoking Crack"
 
whew, I just happily downvoted that genesis guy
my good deed done for the day
 
4:45 PM
the ratio of up vs down votes on genesis has shifted a lot today
 
@RMartinhoFernandes: You still here?
 
hi all
was at home all day
 
how many rep points does one need to vote?
 
150 or something small like that
 
user784668
@bamboon 150?
 
4:57 PM
@bamboon More than one has if one can't vote.
 
never tried, but 150 is anyway too much for me
 
short-cut, sign up for another SE site separately, then link accounts. You get 100 rep on each. Happy voting.
 
what are the mods for anyway?
 
user784668
What voting are you asking about, anyway?
 
this moderator stuff
 
user784668
4:58 PM
So 150, yeah.
 
Mod elections voting I guess
 
user784668
Too much?
 
I always thought that the SO spirit is that that community is the mod
 
it is
and this is how that's done
 
user784668
Even I have more rep than that.
 
4:59 PM
I mean too much for me
 
@bamboon Oh, **** my ****ing question. I gots to axe it. What does the C in C+- mean.
 
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didnt get that
 

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