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3:00 PM
@thecoshman A month or two ago
I think around the same time meta.SE became separate from meta.SO
 
@Rapptz Especially unexpected fun.
 
@chris it did?
 
@JerryCoffin we are @ 7 billion, you are assuming the earth could keep on sustain more and more of us & we have not even got out further than the moon
 
@chris that bunch of stupid repwhores
 
@thecoshman Oh, that was April 16
 
Xeo
3:02 PM
@thecoshman yes
There's Meta.SE (former Meta.SO) and new Meta.SO (which works just like other site-specific meta sites)
 
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A: Recent feature changes to Stack Exchange

Manishearth August 2014 2014-08-13: Moderators can move comments to chat. 2014-08-12: 8-hour delay on self-answers eliminated entirely. July 2014 2014-07-25: Comment threads show a choice between revealing all comments and directly adding a comment. The latter implies the former yet allows users to a...

 
@chmod711telkitty What does population have to do with the chances of a large rock hitting the earth?
 
I really should payoh look at that
 
So I got an email from people called "Ace Softex" this morning.
 
@JerryCoffin Seems like an interesting puzzle to come up with a scenario where they are related.
 
3:05 PM
@JerryCoffin the truth is that I am not sure human race will succeed in it, more population will ensure a fight for resources. resource will be wasted in wars, human nature ensure forces are not aligned in developing technologies benefit human races because each individual want hog more of it. So more effort will be devoted to making a bigger piece of pie instead of making bigger pie
 
@EtiennedeMartel Jack of, club them!
 
I unsubscribed, with the reason "I never subscribed to this mailing list".
> I am writing to you today since I see strong synergy in what our companies do, and would like to explore how we can complement each other on our strategies and mission. Truth be told, any digital publishing service provider would love to work with you!
 
^ prostration
 
I don't have a company, so I don't really know what they're smoking there.
They probably scrubbed my email from my blog.
 
@EtiennedeMartel you just don't realise you do, silly.
 
3:07 PM
think about how long did it take for 0.000000001% of the population to get as far as the moon, I say we are doomed
 
@chmod711telkitty We might not--but if we fail, I'd suggest that it's not for the reasons you're suggesting. Paradoxically, as population has grown fighting over resources has become less common rather than more so.
 
¬_¬ my god I wish being an owner didn't make me feel compelled to not have people plonked so I see when shit needs dealing with.
 
@StackedCrooked That unused function warning is bogus. I turn it off if I get it.
 
> We understand your objective is to combine excellent, engaging, content with the best digital technologies to enhance the joy of reading, and thereby achieve the best possible outcomes for both authors and consumers. We’ve helped several of our clients seamlessly transition to the digital age, and we now typically deliver more ebooks than printer PDFs to them!
 
@JerryCoffin it's more fun to waste resource than fight over them.
 
3:09 PM
Yep, they found my blog.
 
-2
Q: How to prevent multiple definitions of functions from .h file

user3747190I have a base Core.h file and many other .cpp and .h files, lets say - (a.cpp, a.h, b.cpp, b.h, c.cpp, c.h) Now, I have included Core.h file in all .h files (i.e. a.h, b.h and c.h) . And in c.cpp, I am including a.h and b.h file. As a result Core.h file is getting included two times and I am get...

lol those answers
 
@EtiennedeMartel please stop spamming us with your spam.
 
people are so uninformed
 
@Rapptz I think it's only clang that warns about it.
 
@thecoshman Metaspam.
 
3:09 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dupe (scroll up slow poke)
 
Xeo
@thecoshman I stopped caring about that when people wanted me to stop caring about Telkitty - so I have her plonked ever since and leave it to other people to bin her stuff.
 
binning Telkitty is counterproductive and idiotic.
 
@JerryCoffin really? last world war was less than 100 years ago ...
 
@Xeo conci... I can't spell it :S but it's cleared anyway
 
Xeo
From what I've seen, some of her images did need some serious binning.
@thecoshman conscience?
 
3:10 PM
@Xeo I think so :P
@Rapptz you added one too many words there.
 
@Xeo Things have changed since then.
 
@Rapptz It also warns for unused functions in anonymous namespace.
 
@Rapptz bullshit
 
I have her unplonked.
 
Xeo
vOv
 
3:11 PM
She just talks about... stuff.
Literally.
 
nope, keep me plonked, see if I care
 
maybe I could set up a bot, run it on the pi, and have it auto bin...
 
Stuff
 
I have no reason to plonk you.
 
@thecoshman I have people plonked and I don't look to see that messages from them need binning. You're not obliged to be the Lounge's trash man just because you're an owner
 
3:12 PM
not talking about you
 
@chmod711telkitty the more you say that the less credible it becomes :)
 
^
 
@TonyTheLion my god, how long you been lurking in the shadows?
 
How often have I pinged people who had plonked me?
 
@chmod711telkitty On an astronomical time scale, we've actually progressed very quickly. The earth is ~4.5 billion years old. It has craters from roughly 5 rocks large enough to wipe out civilization. That works out to one such hit roughly every 900 million years. We've progressed from living in caves to traveling as far as the moon in around 10,000 years, or about
a gazillionth of a percent of the period between the times earth gets hit with big rocks.
 
3:14 PM
@Rapptz yup
but for some reason
the stuff seems... weird and wrong
 
eh you guys are weirdos.
 
@JerryCoffin I saw something about how it took like 10000 generations to invent fire, 1000 to invent writing, 100 computers etc. not sure on numbers...
 
it's a special kind of random that I rarely see
 
@JerryCoffin I'll quote you on that when that rock comes.
 
she just talks about fat and birds
11
 
3:14 PM
@thecoshman oh cock
 
^^
 
lol I'm so out of it today
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 8"
 
Writing comparators for algorithms that return the element instead of a bool
 
@chris so your "comparator" is a basically min/max? :p
 
3:16 PM
What you thought, I have already thought about it. I can provide alternative views that you could not, now who is the smarter one here?
 
@chmod711telkitty should we have a voting on that?
 
@thecoshman As long as I feel it necessary to do so :P
 
truth ... is always ... in the hands ... of minority ~_~ </shameless self promotion>
 
@StackedCrooked You do that. And you do have a little bit of a point: it's entirely possible that the next rock could be in-bound already, and will hit us within the next couple of years. We don't know enough to say otherwise. Conversely, it could easily be a million years from now--we don't know enough to rule that out either. IMO, there are a lot more serious problems to consider.
 
3:18 PM
It's like how they say that air travel is the safest kind of travel.
But tell that to the passengers in a crashing plane.
 
Minor edits aren't that bad, and I see waaaay too many edits rejected on the ridiculous basis of "minorness". I'm sorry to see that you're going to make that worse. — Lightness Races in Orbit 1 min ago
 
@chris lol
 
That's new for me - an accepted answer with -1 votes.
 
quick, let's delete it and then you can go throw a tantrum on Meta!
 
well, that's the thing - randomness in things unknown ...
 
3:20 PM
@StackedCrooked Similar, but with (literally) astronomically lower odds.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol!
 
why would human invent nuclear bombs before inventing a device that could get them out of the planets that could be destroyed by nuclear bombs?
 
@TonyTheLion stop it, it's creepy, and mildly erotic.
 
@chmod711telkitty maybe one was easier than the other?
 
3:22 PM
@TonyTheLion You tell him, boss.
 
If your new computer users don't know what a "right mouse button" is, hiding that terminology from them and replacing it with a cutesie graphic is only going to prolong the problem. Dumbing things down never helps in the long run. — Lightness Races in Orbit 27 secs ago
 
@chmod711telkitty Because it was important to them to do what they did at the time. And despite their horrible destructive capability, keep in mind that atomic bombs have (beyond any reasonable doubt) on balance saved a tremendous number of lives.
 
@Puppy Any closer to a job yet?
 
@Puppy ಠ_ಠ who let you speak?
 
^^^
I wonder how many people would have continued dying
if the US didn't use the atomic bombs in the war
 
3:25 PM
@TonyTheLion I did in fact submit about 20 applications on Monday.
 
usually, it's a good idea to kill thousands of people if that is what's needed to save the lives of millions
 
@JerryCoffin Also, nuclear energy was the real "invention". Only later they was realized that this could be used for making bombs.
The first step was much more difficult than the second one. (I think)
 
@Akiva if the smart people don't explain things to the silly people, the silly people do not get to be smart people. — thecoshman 10 secs ago
translated for you
 
@StackedCrooked Nope, civil nuclear power was a while after the atomic bomb.
 
I didn't mean it like that.
I mean the discovery of how to release energy from uranium.
 
3:27 PM
stop moving the goalposts
 
@Puppy HAHAHAHAHA
 
@Puppy Well, nuclear reactors were required to create Pu, as used in the first nuclear explosion.
 
@StackedCrooked Yes and no. The invention involved in building nuclear bombs wasn't all that difficult. The difficulty was primarily in doing it (specifically, in purifying enough U-235 from U-238 to build a bomb).
@MartinJames The first bombs used Uranium.
 
@JerryCoffin I said 'explosion' not 'bomb', (Trinity test).
 
@melak47 yeah, well, destroying the earth is a lot easier than escaping it safely ... nice to know ...
@JerryCoffin having wars to save lives ... yeah right
 
3:30 PM
@MartinJames Ah, sorry--didn't catch that distinction. In any case, it's definitely true that a nuclear reactor had been running for a few years before the first nuclear bombs were built.
 
@chmod711telkitty ultimately wars need to end
 
yes, but I don't believe they could extract net energy from it.
 
ending wars saves lives
atomic bombs end wars quickly
regardless of why the wars were started
 
@AlexM. I am sure that can be said about destroying earth - ending all wars quickly & once for all ...
 
do you even see my point
 
3:32 PM
@chmod711telkitty The war had started years before. If you ever want to become even a mediocre troll (not to mention an "elite troll") you'll need a much better grasp of facts and reality to do so.
 
it's cloaked by metamaterial
 
Atomic weapons seem to be mostly about preventing war.
 
@AlexM. They've also almost certainly prevented quite a bit of war-making since then.
 
that too
 
Doesn't really apply to civil wars and stuff :)
Although they could effectively stop a civil war.
 
3:36 PM
@JerryCoffin ok, fine. It might have ended the last war quickly & so far so good. But consider we are less than 80 years from the last world war and nuclear bombs have advanced so drastically (much quicker than the advance in rocket technology IMHO), I could not but wonder when and how the next world war will turn out to be ...
Not just the next one, but whether there will be significant net advance after the war
 
@StackedCrooked They could, but for nuclear weapons to act as a deterrent, there has to be a credible threat that one side might actually use them. I don't believe any country that had nuclear weapons has ever had a civil war (though I don't think that was from the nuclear weapons acting as a deterrent either).
 
thus:
31 mins ago, by chmod 711 telkitty
@JerryCoffin the truth is that I am not sure human race will succeed in it, more population will ensure a fight for resources. resource will be wasted in wars, human nature ensure forces are not aligned in developing technologies benefit human races because each individual want hog more of it. So more effort will be devoted to making a bigger piece of pie instead of making bigger pie
 
Did github navigation bar just change?
 
I meant dropping a few bombs on a civil war would stop it. (Assuming they also explode and don't just lay there.)
 
@Puppy Good
 
3:42 PM
@chmod711telkitty Essentially all advances in rockets have happened since the invention of nuclear weapons. Nuclear devices themselves had advanced relatively little. Ultimately, however, "rockets" are a red herring--to support mass-scale emigration from earth, we almost certainly need something other than rockets. Work on alternative propulsion systems is underway.
 
We should just build an FTL drive.
 
This seems like a rather explosive conversation.
 
Or travel through the wormholes.
Piece of cake.
 
Anyways Zzzz ... off to my soft cotton covered silk quilt (very comfy)
 
@TonyTheLion It might be if the mass of Tellkitty's intellect were large enough to support fission.
 
3:44 PM
In a way, it's unfortunate that there has been no 'small-scale', (!), thermonuclear war. The effects of such weapons cannot be imagined and appear speculative to many. That is a very dangerous POV.
 
Well, TTYAL.
 
TTYL
 
@thecoshman thanks!
 
Ugh
Coliru's not loading and Ideone isn't compiling
 
@chris guess you'll have to do it in your head
 
3:47 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Already did. I need proof of warnings
 
Coliru has been incredibly unreliable of late. I don't know if it's because we didn't donate enough when asked.
 
Anyone here from Massachusetts?
 
@chris I think compiling C++ in your head is already a big warning of something
 
Codepad didn't give any warnings...
 
@DemCodeLines What country is that in?
 
3:47 PM
@DemCodeLines No!
 
@DemCodeLines which US? USA?
 
Yes.
 
USE
 
3:48 PM
@Jefffrey ok ok
 
united states of romania
 
Next time, bear in mind that you are on the world stage here. Don't just assume we're all Yanks like you. Thanks.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's incredibly frustrating for me as well. I just can't figure out what's going on.
 
@StackedCrooked :(
Anything I can do to help?
 
yeaaah but then again
 
3:48 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
we should have a remote idea that the MIT is in that area
and it's in the US :A
 
I managed to fix the Internal Server Error though. It was triggered when writing to stderr and for some reason that pipe was broken.
 
@AlexM. Which US?
 
yeah the place that has MIT and Harvard.
 
3:49 PM
USC
 
I still don't know why the pipe gets broken, but I can at least catch the error now.
But now new issues seem to have arisen.
 
@StackedCrooked lol - even your error logging has bugs!
 
heard siberia wants to gain independence from russia or something
while still somehow being tied to it
 
> <PyDon> imho exceptions have a lack and therefore it has a special reason why languages like swift dont support it.
 
we could call the whole ensemble the USR then
 
3:50 PM
##C++ at its "best".
 
@StackedCrooked: It's weird. Ping/tracert fine, just webserver being silly right?
 
lamdba with auto paramater(s) e.g. [](auto p) { ... } is that a c++14 feature ?
 
Exceptions suck balls
 
It's also frequently slow/timesout on the Coliru layer when it does load
> what does this !gr mean
I always love that
 
return False is the new exception
 
Xeo
3:51 PM
@quantdev yes
 
> You've reached this channel because the channel you tried to enter has been configured with join throttling (+J). There may be a clonebot attack in progress there, or simply unusually heavy interest. Please leave this channel and try again. Your channel may also be "identified-only" (+r); join #please_register for more information. If you need help, message a freenode staffer or email support@freenode.net .... Thanks!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit united states of wisconsin?
 
@AlexM. United StateS of Russia
 
@Jefffrey ##C++ at its "best"
 
3:52 PM
@Jefffrey wtf
@Jefffrey its*
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think you're secretly a "yankist"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Apparently now it's running 24 instances of a cleanup process. There is supposed to be only one running. Nowhere in my code I start this process. It's started once at boot time.
How can there suddenly be 24 instances of this process?
 
@Jefffrey You are not registered with NickServ.
 
@Xeo ok thanks
 
grep over all my script reveals that I never start it.
 
3:53 PM
@Griwes I did just yesterday to enter the #django channel
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ooooh
 
Coliru is driving me nuts.
 
@TonyTheLion I don't think it's much of a secret
 
@Jefffrey Then you did not login today.
 
wait, you lost me
 
3:54 PM
@StackedCrooked lol
 
there's no W in there
 
@StackedCrooked did you boot it 24 times? :P
 
what did you mean by USW
 
* [Jefffrey] (~textual@host103-253-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it): Textual User
* [Jefffrey] asimov.freenode.net :TX, USA
* [Jefffrey] End of WHOIS list.
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol as if you didn't know where massachussets is
 
3:54 PM
@AlexM. keep guessing. it's obvious really
 
That you? See, not logged in.
 
Ell
and you think puppy isn't worldly :L
 
I have this in my crontab:
@reboot (cd /root/coliru/Web ; /root/coliru/Web/defunct-restarter.sh & disown)
 
@Jefffrey /msg nickserv identify <nick> <password>
 
This is the only place where it is started.
 
3:55 PM
@Ell it was ambiguous
@Ell I think you've mistaken my insistence on worldliness for my own nonworldliness
put another way, I know precisely where Massachusetts USA is, but he didn't say Massachusetts USA
he just dropped "Massachusetts" and expected us to mentally append "USA", because if you don't specify the country then it automatically means USA, right?
cos murrica
 
as far as I'm aware, there are no other places in named Massachusetts.
 
I already linked to one
 
@Griwes I'm such a noob
 
there are, look at that link above
it's an asteroid
 
I have now a script on my Mac that calls to coliru via curl every 2 minutes. If it fails the error message is spoken via say command.
So I hear it.
 
3:57 PM
@StackedCrooked Write an init script instead
 
@StackedCrooked I'm sure that's not annoying
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked lol
 
@Jefffrey anddddd now I know your residential hostname. heehee
 
@CatPlusPlus and run the init script at reboot instead? doesn't that boil down to the same thing?
 
/me commences DDoS attacks
 
3:58 PM
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol! I hope it's a short announcement.
 
@MartinJames a C++ template compilation failure message :D
 
@Xeo If my volume is high it causes near heart attack.
 
you can call that extreme debugging
 
or even something relatively innocuous, like:
> obj\Debug\main.o||In function `_static_initialization_and_destruction_0':|
c:\mingw\bin\..\lib\gcc\i686-pc-mingw32\4.7.1\..\..\..\..\include\boost\system\error_code.hpp|214|undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'|
c:\mingw\bin\..\lib\gcc\i686-pc-mingw32\4.7.1\..\..\..\..\include\boost\system\error_code.hpp|215|undefined reference to `boost::system::generic_category()'|
c:\mingw\bin\..\lib\gcc\i686-pc-mingw32\4.7.1\..\..\..\..\include\boost\system\error_code.hpp|216|undefined reference to `boost::system::system_category()'|
that might take a while for Showbot to read out
 
4:00 PM
dot dot dot dot
That reminds me that I should setup monitoring, too
I do not look forward to setting up Nagios
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus you seem to set up a lot of things :P
 
wait what
why did it just automatically join ##c?
 
man I haven't been on IRC in a long time
I have enough dealing with you Loungers every day :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're welcome, that'll be £3.99 please
@TonyTheLion we have an IRC?
 
IRC in general
 
4:06 PM
^^
 
0
A: Do we really need the [weight] tag?

Lightness Races in OrbitDracarys.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

^ my new response to any worthy tag burnination request
 
You are taking this "now I understand GoT" too far, I believe
 
:D
I miss Daenerys
/me runs to Meta to complain
 
LOL
 
Now it's got an ugly "edit" notice on it. You cunt.
it has WRITTEN BY LIGHTNESS slapped all over it!
3
 
4:09 PM
lol
 
Xeo
Oh sweet, three peeps from Studio Trigger will be at the Connichi. /cc @Mysticial @ScarletAmaranth @StackedCrooked
 
the guys with witch academia
 
here, have a +1
 
that ova was nice
 
Xeo
@AlexM. and Kill la Kill
 
4:10 PM
@Xeo Connichi wha-?
 
dat pun
 
Xeo
and Inferno Cop
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit konnichi kill la kill
 
@AlexM. that reminds me of rightfold
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit did your answer just get triple downvoted
whoa
dem downvotes
 
4:12 PM
quadruple
people are fick
 
It's probably my fault really
 
@TonyTheLion you're right
maybe I am rightfold :O
 
That "edited X mins ago" is really ugly
Is this answer about to become the subject of the most boring edit war imaginable? — AirThomas 54 secs ago
This guy sees things
 
lol
 
@Vality no actually you should burn it doing exercise. — Alfredo Osorio 41 secs ago
 
4:16 PM
OSX asks me
"Updates Available
Do you want to restart to install these updates now or try tonight?"
> try tonight
that sounds kinky
options are try in an hour, try tonight and remind me tomorrow
what does try tonight do
is tonight a specific time
I'm so confused right now
 
why is javascript so bizarre? Is there a decent alternative?
 
Dart maybe
Or the million of languages that compile to JS.
 
Oo, dart has classes and import statements... that's instantly muuuch better.
 
Javascript was written in that awkward period of computer science where a bad language could flourish because we didn't know any better. Unfortunately, all periods of computer science are like that.
 
Age of PHP
 
4:28 PM
That was a great poo
 
javascript isn't terrible, it just seems like there is too much unnecessary setup and it takes too long to get up and running
 
setup?
 
I never worked on anything serious with javascript
but on what I worked
I had no issues with it
it was just another language that I learned to use and used
 
things like getting npm, bower, an MVC, requirejs or something similar... such a pain to do each time there's a serious project. Maybe I'm just too used to python...
 
use angularjs if you can
I used it on a range of shit from some win8 app running on phonegap
to a simple tycoon running in a browser
it was annoying applying it to the game though
 
4:34 PM
I'm using phonegap right now, I don't really get what works with phonegap though... anything that would work with js?
 
@corvid Dart, TypeScript, CoffeeScript, GWT are all alternatives. Dart has its own package manager, with server-side capabilities.
 
what's angularjs again?
 
MVC?
 
MVC for javascript and html
 
it's google's mvc
 
I've never mentioned Rust, ever. Er.... dammit.
 
@OmnipotentEntity 1995?
 
> When AllocTraits::pointer is not the same as T *, we say that the allocator uses a fancy pointer.
is fancy pointer really a term?
 
PHP is useful.
 
no
 
4:44 PM
I mean as a bottom line to compare other languages with.
There needs to be a lower bound for suckiness.
 
PAHAHAHA
Hello, welcome to the site! You ask bad questions. I recommend you read the entire Help Center and head back when you have a specific, programming-related question. — admdrew 19 secs ago
 
@StackedCrooked Java would have been quite adequate for that purpose.
 
is there a GUI tool for merging files with stuff like
<<<<<<< HEAD
text1
=======
text2
>>>>>>> some commit
 
Xeo
Wtf
`test`-test
wtf
 
4:56 PM
lawl
 
Xeo
why
 
@Abyx Looks like a format meld could handle (maybe, anyway--if memory serves, it handles most typical diff formats, anyway).
 
Xeo
I could swear that used to produce italic code
 
@JerryCoffin I installed meld but its UI is completely unusable, at least on Windows
 
@Xeo Surround with asterisks to get italics.
 
Xeo
4:59 PM
test-test
oh come on
really
* and _ don't work the same way for murkdown
 
@Abyx Hmm...I find it fairly usable (at least for the specific purposes to which I've wanted to put it, mostly handling conflicts when merging with Git).
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Guess I never noticed since back when I used to write GSQ answers, I still had the German layout and used * for markdown emphasis
 

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