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13:00
But thats not a problem since i don't need it now ;D
@StackedCrooked Thank you a lot for Coliru! <3
13:26
Mgetz,my application needs to be loaded in that particular address only..bcoz it was compiled in another os environment and being executed in windows...same application working fine in windows-xp and not working in windows7..because of virtual allocation failure — muralimac 1 hour ago
lol
is there any decent pre-made font configurations for ubuntu? The default fonts are a little dull and setting up the .fonts.cfg is annoying
Ell
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13:41
@VáclavZeman You just really don't get it do you. I'm saying that cheating on your wife is a good idea! In fact it's a terrible one. Because it won't make you happy and your wife will probably find out and you will probably both end up miserable. But I'm saying is that some people believe that the consequences of an action determine whether it is morally wrong or right and I don't think that is a terrible belief
@Ell Now you are saying: "I disagree with the conclusion drawn based on this system" followed by "but I don't think the system is terrible"?
wtf we're still having this conversation
at least it's not windows vs linux
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@AlexM. yep, OS holywars can get quite boring sometimes :)
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> I'm saying that cheating on your wife is a good idea!
You fucked up, guy.
13:50
Yes, he missed a 'not'. Big deal.
An lo, the prophet Linus spake, and he spake, thou shalt not speaketh of the other OS, and it was so
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@AlexM. BTW, who is it on your avatar?
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@AlexM. oh, it's from haganai! I knew that nun looked familiar :D
buh, I'm failing pretty hard here at simple things again. One to many relationships in database
13:53
what about them?
just setting one up. I'm making articles, and every article can have many comments
foreign key on the comments
Ell
Ell
@SamDeHaan I'm not? The conclusion drawn from the system is "cheating is okay if nobody is hurt by it", I'm saying "cheating is bad because people are usuallly hurt by it"
meh cheating
@Ell I do get it. But you are wrong, by my standards. Deal with that.
13:58
oh hey @stacked
it would be easier if partners just notified the counterparts that they got bored
synchronously notified
¬_¬ wait a cotton picking second... do y'all yanks no know what 'black pudding' is?
@thecoshman heard of it...
@Collin but don't know what it is?
14:07
I don't know what it is and I am assuredly no yank.
I thought it was some kind of blood dish thing.. but now I've cheated because I looked it up
is it that chocolate salami thing?
no.
@Collin basically yes
I've seen it on cooking shows before
14:08
it's blood and cereals in a suassage shape, and is amazingly tasty
it does not sound delicious, but I guess I'll have to try it sometime
o_0 this page doesn't yet my mouse right click
@Collin it is
you guys have weird food
unless that's not real
@Collin dathostname
Ell
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@VáclavZeman I never had a problem with that - like I said, I have my opinion and you have yours
(which you disagreed with for some reason)
14:18
@Collin it's probably 'real', but not normal
I read that as aquaponies
there's probably a subreddit for that
There's always a subreddit for that
@Collin So you claim that's actually food?
@Xeo @Puppy, thanks!
14:27
@JerryCoffin I don't claim it's food, @thecoshman does.
Oh, and hi all.
@Collin You posted the link, and used "food" to describe it.
I was trying to come up with a witty response, but I've got nothing
@Collin You've got nuttin. I've got Nuts 'n other tasty stuff. I'm clearly the whiner winner!
I like the idea of Chilli Black Pudding - gotta try that if it's real!
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@OmnipotentEntity Ohai :D
Sorry for ignoring your question last time :P
14:36
No worries. :)
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Unfortunately I can't give too much of an opinion on Starbound, since my old PC kinda didn't get along with it. Now that I got my new rig, I should try again.
the previous stable update felt like a bit of a grind
@Xeo, yeah, perf is a big problem right now. Mostly because of the lighting code.
the devblogs are super exciting
@MartinJames vOv just whip out the hot sauce :P
14:40
@Puppy, don't blame you for thinking that. We don't have real progression right now, mostly just placeholder. If you've tried the nightly it's getting better-ish, but that's spoilers, and also sometimes just broken.
@thecoshman Oh - I would do that as well. Also, I like how it soaks into the chips:)
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@OmnipotentEntity I remember SB crashing a quite often when trying to travel between planets, but that was right after the first preorder version.
I played quite a while, hit the ~endgame at the time and it was a bit flat. That was a while ago, though.
@Xeo pretty sure that's fixed. Twas a dumb threading issue.
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Yeah, as I said, I'll have to try playing again with the newest version
14:46
OK :)
@SamDeHaan, Yeah, I don't blame you for thinking that or anything. We don't have a lot of stuff implemented, and the trouble with procedural generation is the uniform same-iness, especially because we essentially got a small handful of parameters working and then copy pasted them just to get stuff shipped for beta. Good news is it's gotten a lot better.
well, the impression that I get is that the nightlies are much better and you've accomplished a lot more than the KSP guys did in the same timeframe
In KSP's defence. We don't have Jeb running around the office.
heh
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Well here's a question: Why not!
First Contract, I kinda feel disappointed
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14:51
... now I kinda have to imagine Space Stations in Starbound
they didn't fix many of the usability problems like the EVA controls, and the contracts are too narrow
seriously though, I love KSP and I'm loathe the compare our productivity and theirs because the games are so different.
not that I haven't had my money's worth out of KSP
@Xeo Dead.
but I kinda feel like they don't accomplish much in their development time
14:52
@OmnipotentEntity Yeah, I haven't had the time to get back into it, but I've looked through the patch notes a few times since I stopped and I've wanted to try it out.
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@Puppy They're busy making funny videos
@Puppy, lots of people think that about Starbound too though.
gotta admit, I looked at some of your doxygen'd code and I was most impressed. Round here, we often make big jokes about "game developers" being 20 years behind the times w.r.t. general programming practice
Thanks! There are some rough patches in the code though, like StatusEffectsPacket, StatusEffectSource, StatusEffectPrimative, etc. But we're in the process of cleaning a bunch of that shit up.
Former dev member is responsible for most of it. And he's left the team, which means no more bruised egos for modifying that code.
always easier to develop when you have less politics in the way
14:56
Honestly, I didn't expect Lounge<C++> to read it or else I would have been a little more nervous about releasing it. I only really expecting modders and lua folks to read it. The documentation isn't all that great right now.
documentation for anything is never all that great.
Hi there! Help me, please, I'm stuck! What's the dashed line around focused widgets called? Focus feedback in general, yes, but isn't there another term for it.. with a stronger emphasis on the geometric side of it? It's on the tip of my tongue :( Anyone know what I might be talking about?
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I'd love to take a peek at the actual source.
From what I've seen it's mostly just a dump of signatures, that hardly qualifies as documentation :v
I use LLVM and Clang in my project, so I'm used to trawling around nothing but hyperlinks to doxygen function listings.
14:58
@Xeo, you should be happy to learn that we're eventually going to open source it. Once the game's run ends and we stop doing updates.
I recommend using Sphinx and hand-crafted docs and forget about Doxygen nonsense
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@OmnipotentEntity Oh cool.
@OmnipotentEntity We do have a ... certain reputation, I guess.
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OTOH, aw boo for stopping updates at one point :P
honestly, we should all stop being reasonable or we'll lose the rep we've earned from so much hard effort!
14:59
WERE FAMOUS
BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS
thanks Cat, I knew you could restore us to our former glory.
@CatPlusPlus, exactly. We have comments over some of the functions. But none of them are any sort of documentation style so they don't get picked up.
The stuff in the LuaBinding namespace is reasonably documented... ish. But they're just lua bindings.
I love butts though. Just the best thing ever. Butts butts butts.
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Question title: 'I want to make career in SAP'. It's not vey often that an SO post makes me literally cry with despair:(
@MartinJames hahah
I guess you've had experience with SAP and it wasn't good?
@TonyTheLion I stopped drinking beer. My life-force was almost drained away completely when the project got cancelled.
@TonyTheLion Actually, that's twice that SAP has removed beer from my life. Second time was last year when the brewery that runs the dray service that delivers to the club installed SAP to manage their entire business. Sure enough, deliveries stopped for two weeks:(
15:09
oh I see
@MartinJames Sounds a bit like the old line about: "My wife drove me to drink...and I didn't even thank her", but in reverse.
@JerryCoffin lol, I always than Anne when she drives me to drink, (and even more so if I get a lift back home:).
@MartinJames Good man!
Well, I guess I need to go to work. TTYL.
eclipse froze ...
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Alright, time to head home
15:21
I know how Chinese is notorious for property development, but sometimes I could not but think, would property development be actually a good thing, because the population is increasing which means the demand for more houses. And brick and mortar is just more concrete than finance or technology ... one is how to cut a bigger piece in the same pie, the other ... currently is mainly reorganize the same old informtation pretty much ...
To England!
it's windy in the land of the Angles right now.
it's rainy in at least one section of the land of the merkins right now.
s/merkin/moron
That's the identity operation.
15:29
indeed
Random panic? Sounds like Cat.
really old
That guy is such a dick. He'd fit in well in here
> For chrissake, that compiler shouldn't have been allowed to graduate from kindergarten.
lol
15:34
:D
Actually my gravatar is still my portrait. This is an SO uploaded profile picture.
but yeah
Yet again I have a dumb data export/import task to do and I'm incredibly bored
15:52
Outsource it to india sir.
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Hmm, Weeklong Deals on Steam...
Ell
Ell
I don't know how to do collision properly
I think I need multi methods or something
Multimethods can be useful there depending on your design.
Ell
Ell
this is in ruby for anyone interested
It'll suck anyway
16:00
There is a multimethod gem.
It's probably broken
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Some interesting stuff in the Weeklong Deals
Please could you be more vague? I was almost able to answer this question. — Lightness Races in Orbit 5 secs ago
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unless I just write a circle_colliding_with_aabb(a, b), circle_colliding_with_circle(a, b) etc. etc. and manually choose it with a colliding_with?(a, b) with a giant switch
and when I say giant I mean not actually that big
but it doesn't seem like a nice solution
16:08
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't like your avatar, lady.
@Jefffrey I don't like your face, boy.
dat flag
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fair enough.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think you two should **** to release some tension
@Arcoth With you?
You should definitely four stars and also A* because you're nerds
16:12
@Jefffrey Code (****) with me? omg yes please :) :)
I really meant "fuck".
@Jefffrey What's your *** then?
My IDE (***) is CodeBlocks
you are all so sexist. please stop hitting on me just because I am a girl. our industry has had enough of that. thanks.
16:13
My *** is oh my god shut up
Also
I'm bored
Entertain me
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Ell
@CatPlusPlus drink
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Dat preview video
> This does not mean that some viruses related to these new viruses might not be the unsuspected cause of unrecognized infectious diseases.
Not enough negation.
Can someone simplify that for me?
The world really needed more ANIME uninspired Mario clones
16:15
@Jefffrey there isn't not no chance I won't do that for you never
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It would surprisingly be correct to say 'Rightness laces in Orbit' as well
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@CatPlusPlus It's not a Mario clone
You'd know if you watched the video
Oh god it's worse it's one of those HAHA GOT YOU WITH A THING YOU COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT shitty games
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16:17
Yesh
At least they got some mileage out of Adobe After Effects
I like how reviews are all 9 but from reviewers nobody has ever heard of
Okay Cat i got something really funny that will entertain you (everyone) for sure
If you don't stop with this "bla bla (something) bla bla" thingy, I'm going to take you out.
Here a long time member of our community presented what his colleague wrote to compute 2^(a+b) in C++: boost::lexical_cast<int>(pow(2.0, static_cast<float>(a + b))
16:20
Holy christ you are terrible at markup
I know :p
The code is much more terrible than my markup techniques though you have to admit
I literally fell asleep
@CatPlusPlus Don't believe it
Argh I want to do something interesting
But I have to finish this boring shit
What is "this boring shit"?
16:22
Moving data from one instance to another
Crystal clear.
Because people are badlets and do production content on a test instance instead of just breaking shit in various ways
I think that with a little LSD I can picture it in my head.
It's data export and then data import what more do you want to know
Ok, how about FILE* p = new FILE; - top combination of C++ and C
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16:24
Stahp
@Jefffrey I got a list with stuff to bore people with
Have you reached the end yet?
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@Jefffrey gotta love cr1tikal
We first have to discuss a lot of mediocre dilbert comics.
Then i have to say that i ******* hate the C++ standard comitee. Like, i really f*ck*ng hate those stupid blinkered sh*tbags. Why in hell would they decline string literal operator templates? >:(
Stop with the dumb asterisks
16:27
@CatPlusPlus I thought swearing is not allowed in this house?
Stop with the goddamn flagging
Jesus christ
I find asterisks particularly offensive.
@Rapptz I typically write static anyway, to be clear. That const at namespace and/or global scope results in internal linkage tends to surprise.
invalidate(flag);
@CatPlusPlus flagged as religious shit
@Arcoth that's *****
16:29
@Arcoth It's fucking allowed, OK?!!???
@Arcoth giggle
@Jefffrey Okay but an angry diatribe littered with profanity and insults is not
though I actually declined that one
here is my opportunity, mind you
inb4 lounge.net
16:30
I will find you and end you
:18246599 Yeah jefffrey, shellac <s>him</s> her!
with a ban feature, I mean
Let's see if that JS contraption for catching flags works
Instead of @echo off<newline>command I can just do @command right?
16:34
@PolymorphicPotato yep
Any game developers in da house to assist on this question?
http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/q/81796/3078
Smash Hit is such an addictive game... it's the new Flappy Birds (which, by the way, I was never addicted to)
@karlphillip I wish I had enough rep to downvote that
16:36
@Abyx lol and why would you do that?
@karlphillip because you don't respect the rules of this room.
@Jefffrey i like your use of grammar
@karlphillip Is that not massively too broad for SE?
Sounds like you need a three-day workshop given by an expert animator.
@Abyx I apologize ... I didn't notice there were rules.
16:38
What is faster inside a loop: x*x or x_square+= 2*x+1? (Both ints)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not at all. I would be very happy with a 6 line answer giving pointers.
@karlphillip Just ignore the troll
@karlphillip and the question is too broad and should be closed
@karlphillip Okay, I'm on it
16:39
@Arcoth Is this a trick question? I'd guess: "the same one that's faster outside a loop."
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If somebody comes along and say "hey, that effect can be done by calculating the shatter pattern for all the surface, and the physics involved is X, Y, Z"
@JerryCoffin And what's faster outside a loop? :)
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A: How can glass breaking effect from Smash Hit be achieved?

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@karlphillip HTH.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I would be satisfied.
@Arcoth Try both and measure.
16:40
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what a moron.
@Arcoth We seem to be in a loop of our own, but probably the same one as inside a loop (though your profiler will probably be able to measure it more easily inside a loop).
wtb unboringinator
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stop working and play games
@CatPlusPlus buy a rope
It's not like I wanna tell you "hang yourself", it's just that cats like to play with ropes
16:43
but whatever you choose to do is fine by me
welp. time to dig crappy code
@CatPlusPlus Mesa
What do we do after the "free association"? Ink blots? I love ink blots!
Ell
Ell
17:05
I wonder how expensive RTTI is
benchmark it :v
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Really? We're playing it like that? Well, in that case, my code finds your behavior puerile. I'm not involved in the dispute, since I was not the one insulted. For the record, my code isn't insulting you personally, it's just insulting your behavior. In the opinion of my code, your behavior is a bit of a dick. — Parthian Shot 1 min ago
Finally, something I can flag.
See yas later
holy fucknuggets
I'm watching the BBC news and they just spent the last 10 minutes waffling on about Robin Williams
gee, never mind the people dying in Iraq, or Syria, or Ukraine, or Gaza.
huh, I wonder what I (removed) up there. Literally got no idea now.
@Puppy We all know people are dying there. It's not news.
clearly the most CRITICAL ISSUE EVER is "Old man (he once acted in a film!) dies."
17:09
Oh jesus
Just fuck off Puppy
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There's a huge point behind it (mental illness)
@Puppy He was funnier than those people so he wins
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If they had a point about mental illness to make, they could just get on and make it instead of spending ten minutes waffling about one specific instance of it which is no more meaningful than any other. You don't need to wait until an actor dies of something for it to be important, or to make a point about it.
@CatPlusPlus This is probably just the truth, I guess.
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Damn, I have to get up 2h earlier tomorrow than usual
that sucks
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not really - it's a free free day
I just have a 1.5h trainride to the gamescom
and I need to be there kinda early to meet up with someone
17:22
ah, that's cool
@Ell Pretty cheap. But it really depends on what operation you want to perform on it.
the simpler stuff like typeid() and type_info comparison is super cheap- typeid() is a vtable lookup at worst, and type_info comparison is a mangled name comparison at worst.
dynamic_cast really depends on how complex your hierarchy is- in the simple cases it can be super fast.
and just FTR, mangled names (at least on Itanium) are built to be compared quickly, with O(N) being only in relatively edge cases.
17:41
@Puppy And when N is like maybe 20
17:58
nah, they can get a lot bigger.
but Itanium is well-designed to be compared in much less than N, and it's only in edge cases where it's necessary in the first place.
Something in computers is well designed???????
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@CatPlusPlus When that happens usually someone designs something else to compete with well-designed thing.
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Thus segmenting the market.
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See: OpenGL, DirectX, and then it's upcoming bastard children (Mantle, Metal, etc.)
Which things in this set are well designed again
user3010322
18:07
OpenGL, where Version is Latest and All Extensions are on.
I think that DX11 is fairly well designed
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I'd say DX11 was. No idea what DX12 is going to do to the API.
it's OGL which is barely beginning to enter sanity.
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D3D9? Not exactly my cup of tea.
9 was hardly perfection but it was a different age of computing really.
18:08
You're both broken
18:22
@CatPlusPlus now now
@StackedCrooked Coliru is broken :(
> No such file or directory - /root/coliru/Web/../Archive/Internal/main.cpp
rebooting the server. it will work again (for a brief while)
:lol:
Fix the underlying issue maybe
Instead of doing hacks like reboots every 10 seconds
18:25
I can't figure it out.
There's nothing in the logs.
@StackedCrooked :D
@StackedCrooked Make better logs
18:51
Is there any way to represent the generic constraint ([M<A>,M<B>,M<C>,...,M<N>]) -> M<[A,B,C,...N]>? (where [] means array of)
Don't see that every day.
Ok, so I've watched the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and... I don't know.
@chris I remember teasing the idea of a competition to see who could ask the worst question and keep it open long enough for a bounty.
I think it's a good candidate for one of the most random thing I've ever watched.
But now I understand why someone thought Cat is so similar to Marvin.
@chris The OP completely rewrote the question. lol
In an attempt to get out of a q-ban.
18:58
Holy shit, 38 revisions.
Yeah, this is really an exceptional happening.
> still not working with this edit.
lol
38th revision: "add real code"
good job
@Mysticial I thought that was what you were supposed to do.
Can we rollback to r1? :D

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