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08:00
Since I typically have two files open per monitor.
And up 3 monitors.
At work I use a header that looks like this. I still need to fully quality std::chrono::duration_cast.
At work, I don't have that luxury. We're all stuck at the Google 80 characters.
@Mysticial really?
Yeah. For most projects.
80 characters can be really tight at times
leading to ugly line breaks
08:02
For my personal projects, I have a habit of writing functions with tons of parameters.
1000 kilogram of parameters
that's a lot :P
That's usually the only time I actually go more than half a screen.
installing gentoo is such a pain in the ass
how do Cat and Robot put up with it
They enjoy stuff that requires concentration.
I imagine puppy dying at the mere thought of installing gentoo.
08:04
Gentoo wouldn't like me.
I don't bother installing software that doesn't want me to install it.
@Rapptz And stream of F words on the chat.
The servers at work all have Gentoo though.
and for linux this is anything that's not *buntu
and debian
I use Debian
me too
it has a nice setup process where I click on buttons
and it works
08:06
I don't really care about that.
You would care if you were forced to click millions of buttons.
But I agree with @AlexM.
I think an install should run automated without interaction.
Ubuntu only requires your username, password and timezone iirc.
Debian requires way more
Ubuntu is primarily aimed at John Smith users.
I use Ubuntu. Kinda...
They don't want to scare him away with nerd stuff.
08:09
Just to compile code.
@StackedCrooked I use VMware Player which has this neat autosetup mode
I'v been using Ubuntu at work for 4 years now.
People in /g/ call Ubuntu "babby's first linux"
I enter the credentials in VMware itself and it starts and manages the setup automatically
@AlexM. Yeah, I've used it once.
08:10
@AlexM. Because setup process is important thing that you do daily? :)
and whenever people have trouble they always go "install gentoo"
@VáclavZeman nope, but Windows
I use Windows primarily where everything is simple to set up
and when I use some linux thing where I have to work extra just so I can work some more, I'm immediately thrown off
and just get back to windows
@AlexM. I used to do that. But then I managed to get used to Ubuntu and since then I have not needed Windows much. Except that I miss games but not bad enough to reverse this.
ubuntu is pretty easy to use, I like it too
my only issues with it were when it would stop booting after some update, probably because of GRUB going bonkers or something
08:14
It has a decent settings panel.
but the software center and all that make for an easy to use OS
I just started SC, searched for MonoDevelop and downloaded it
I greatly dislike the new locator tool though. I shows all kinds of irrelevant crap.
I use XFCE.
I like it, it's pretty nice
@StackedCrooked yeah
I started using ubuntu two versions prior to unity
I liked gnome 2 too
xfce is also nice, and reminds me of gnome 2
actually, now that I think about it, ubuntu's software center made it easier than it is on windows to install stuff
08:18
the only thing that I did not find there was... mysql workbench, or maybe it was there and I forgot
and google chrome
I'm gonna try watching Anime and playing AOE2 at the same time. I have too much Anime queued up to waste any time not watching it.
AOE2 is my fav game ever
We should play some time. Though I admit that I'm only a useful player in 4v4 teams and only in Black Forest lol.
Black Forest? So you like building first and then attack with full force?
We used to play that all the time the university computer rooms.
@StackedCrooked Yeah. That's how I like to play the majority of my RTS. Which is why I never get good.
08:24
That was back when cable internet was not yet available in Belgium.
So many students started gaming at university.
ooh ooh
I'm in for an aoe 2 hd match
The placement of the teams also affects how well I can play.
It was like a hell-hole. Shouting and screaming.
They forbid gaming after that year.
If I Persian and I'm on the edge, then I'll need help.
If I'm Korean and I'm not on the edge, I'll end up building half my base in the neighboring teammate's base that is on the edge.
I'm too predictable.
I remember mass scorpions were often used in black forest games.
08:27
Back in my college days, we'd play every Friday night.
Korean defense on Black Forest is almost broken. But it's one of the only things I can do which is in anyway useful to my team.
That's how bad I am.
You really don't have a college degree?
@StackedCrooked !
I know you have one.
I eventually got a bachelor's degree at a technical school.
cool
08:31
But that was not very high-level.
Basically C# workshop.
Was it fun?
But it's a real bachelor degree and so it gets me jobs.
@Rapptz It was kinda fun since there was no stress.
From what I've seen, you don't actually need a bachelor's degree in here to work in software development.
Yeah, it's getting less important here as well.
@Rapptz Btw, the building was at 10 min walk from my home.
That's always nice.
I lived on campus :p
08:35
Definitely.
So the 10 minute walk is kinda a given.
In here we have campus buses since the campus is pretty big.
It costs like $60+ a semester.
Cool.
I suppose American campus tend to be slightly bigger than here in Belgium.
This was posted on reddit:
In the first year there was a course named "structured programming". It was a semester long introduction to stuff like loops and functions. We had to solve the exercises with Nassi–Shneiderman diagrams.
It was way too easy.
I bet.
08:40
In the final year some students started to revolt because they felt they did not receive a proper education.
wtf
who cares about that
However, that didn't bother me at all. I always had the mentality that a programmer should self-educate.
@AlexM. exactly
right now the only reason I want my degree is so I can be officially recognized as a programmer
That was the reason I got mine.
at my job I'm officially a "programmer apprentice" or something
because I don't have a degree
08:42
That's sad :(
minimum wages are also by degree
officially, yes
Cherry blossom trees are pretty.
@Rapptz yes
unofficially, the degree doesn't mean jack
08:44
When I was in Japan it was always pretty to see
Ah, Japan.
But, they are also pretty outside of Japan.
Yes.
Japan is the only place I went that had it
I think Washington D.C. is a place in here that has them
"OOP is a faggot." <- neat.
08:48
I should stop using the PC while cooking
I had to buy more noodles and throw the first ones away because I overcooked them
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Q: How should I handle my manager offering me an unwanted drink?

user2769651I stayed a bit late yesterday as I had quite a bit of work to catch up with. I wasn't aware that the world cup semi finals was happening between Argentina and the Netherlands. As a result a bunch of my superiors were sitting in the lounge watching the game. My manager called me over and asked me ...

> I said no because I am a minor (20) and I just don't like drinking.
Xeo
Xeo
Nothing wrong with that
srsly how can you not like beer
Xeo
Xeo
Morning
beer is amazing
Xeo
Xeo
@AlexM. Easy: It tastes like shit.
08:51
no it doesn't, you just had bad beer
I'm gonna checkout kdevelop for a change.
all beer tastes like shit
Xeo
Xeo
I've tried a variety of beers, since everyone tries to convince me that beer is good
yeah me too
but nope, still tastes like ass
Xeo
Xeo
I just can't deal with the taste
08:52
I don't like drinking as a result
@AlexM. Yeah, makes sense. Beer is so awesome that it is impossible for him to find one that isn't bad in... freaking Germany.
> For subversion support you need to have it enabled on compile time.
KDevelop sucks.
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz I like drinking Rum-based cocktails, those are tasty.
@R.MartinhoFernandes cough
czech beer is better than german beer tho
09:05
@AlexM. cheaper I'll grant you
@Xeo oh, rum with rum is counted as a cocktail these days?
yes, it is indeed cheaper
when you put better near that, you get the best deal
I haven't tried many german beers, I'll admit
I have tried all czech beers available in Romania
and I haven't found one to actually dislike
regardless of the price
Maybe you're not sophisticated enough.
to be fair to @xeo there is an awful lock of gank beer
09:09
> elsewhence
o_0
oh yeah, weekend work ¬_¬
09:21
morning
so
I gotta tell you that having a 160" screen at home is pretty fun
I was also positively surprised by the quality of the small BT speakers I used yesterday
altough I gonna set up proper 5.1 today I guess
> Like this person is so obsessed in whatever ignorant mindset they hold that they saw this book and immediately set in motion a series of events for their entire day where they would buy this book and ensure their camera is charged. They would then rip it up, while taking photos and light it on fire and put it into a fire smiling and put it on the internet. They planned out this entire thing.
> First of all try using functions. If you use inline function you can even prevent performance lack.
@ParkYoung-Bae ...
09:30
> Because debugging function macros are not possible first of all through C++ interface. Second it is not the genuine part of the language, it is just replacement.
I checked the tumblr blog that originally posted this.
> #me #selfie culture #misandry #male tears #destroy mra propaganda #qt times #the war against boys #christina sommers #the reviews on the back are from like the christian science review or some bs #meN r oPPRESsED we cateR TO woMAN ONLY!!1 #no boys allowed 21,463 notes
Jesus Christ.
How do these people function?
oh
I found my gamedev screencast
I should compress it and put on YT or something
oh god maybe not
I saw the code
morning
Xeo
Xeo
@Rapptz Not, obviously. Which is why they're on tumblr.
09:46
@Rapptz qt?
oh
"cute"
lol
morning
user1804599
10:06
I want to visit a cave.
you mean having sex? :0
user1804599
No, of course not.
my brother does cave climbing
or whatever it's called
user1804599
I have once visited a salt mine and it was pretty nice.
user1804599
It was in Poland!
user1804599
10:08
Windows 7 ships with wallpapers of it IIRC.
this is boring - uncivilized caves are a true adventure
he was even once on some japan tv show who visited Poland :0
can't find it though, it was online somewhere ;0
user1804599
So he went to Japan so he could go back to Poland?
no : D they met him in Poland by accident
@rightfold facebook.com/… found it :0 my brother is the one with the guitar : D
user1804599
Oh god.
:0 seems it was actually in Czechy
user1804599
10:14
Bungee jumping in a fucking cave.
he told me it's fun
but one of their friends broke both legs, pelvis, and feet (yes you can break your feet)
hmm
where should the giant "Reference" button takes you?
or maybe I should turn it into a dropdown.
10:47
Fabian Giesen - "I think VR is bad news" gist.github.com/rygorous/251b945aef2046ac7cee
Fuck
Forgot my wallet
Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
Xeo
Xeo
...
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh god... you suck
@R.MartinhoFernandes forgot it where?
Other pants.
Like Guybrush.
10:59
So where are you now, and where are your pants?
chicken chest looks like a butt
Southeast Berlin, middle of Berlin.
11:21
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv why do you keep your wallet in your pants?
and why don't you get a phone case that holds money and stuffs
@JohannesSchaub-litb don't be sexist
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, you seen today's jim'll paint it?
there is a retirement home near me
I'm hoping to die before I end up like that
@thecoshman why is that
i'm not sexist
dude
@JohannesSchaub-litb there you go again!
@Rapptz should I give a downvote to counter your dumb upvote?
@thecoshman want
@Puppy aye
yet another new game save :P
user2862309
!!urban purdy
user2862309
where is the bot
Xeo
Xeo
11:42
@thecoshman oooh
@Mr.Meshuggah There is no bot
@thecoshman I make them all the time. Deleted my previous save too.
user2862309
There used to be
Xeo
Xeo
no
Wrong room?
user2862309
hm
user2862309
are you sure
11:45
@Puppy I've found that with mods the game is too much work for me to enjoy, but without them it feels dull and lifeless. Just need to find the right balance of mods me thinks.
personally I'm fairly happy with just MechJeb
user1804599
Yay. Primitive world generator!
user1804599
@rightfold congratz
this place is sick :O
@Borgleader what place is that
user2862309
11:53
@rightfold What does that do?
user2862309
Sorry the bot is in the JS room chat.
user1804599
It prints a random piece of world and exits.
user2862309
Haha so cool
@rightfold lol what pieces can the world be made of?
@JohannesSchaub-litb Angel Falls, Venezuela
11:56
water, sand, green and ground?
user1804599
@JohannesSchaub-litb grass, dirt, water and sand. :P
Is that Roraima?
add people and see how they settle on the world
Oh, it's not.
11:58
@Borgleader how did that evolve?
is it a meteorite crater
@JohannesSchaub-litb No clue, its my picture of the day on chrome (from an app i installed)
Oh it's part of the same plateau chain as Mount Roraima.
I knew it.
Those places are awesome.
Jul 6 at 0:20, by Borgleader
user image
(that was Hoher Kasten, Appenzell Alps, Switzerland)
12:00
nice welcome screen
do you actually use that "main focus for today" field?
Not really, I mainly use it for the pretty pictures :)
user2862309
@Borgleader Wow that is amazing, what is it?
why is a mountain asking you what you're doing with your day? :p
@Mr.Meshuggah The App? Momentum
i imagine driving a car off that cliff, and turning the car into flight mode
12:03
When I saw this on reddit the guy had it setup so his greeting was "Good morning/evening, you wondrous fucker."
for loop variables or function arguments, does Python have some batshit insane scoping?
scoping? i thought variables existed from the point you first declare them
(i havent done python in a really long time though so i could easily be wrong)
well, I've been treating it as if all arguments and loop variables have bog-standard lexical scope.
@thecoshman you mean oooh, 64bit? :v
but it would explain a lot if they actually don't go out of scope properly.
12:05
@Johannes it's not a crater.
A tepui , or tepuy (), is a table-top mountain or mesa found in the Guiana Highlands of South America, especially in Venezuela and western Guyana. The word tepui means "house of the gods" in the native tongue of the Pemon, the indigenous people who inhabit the Gran Sabana. Tepuis tend to be found as isolated entities rather than in connected ranges, which makes them the host of a unique array of endemic plant and animal species. Some of the most outstanding tepuis are Neblina, Autana, Auyantepui and Mount Roraima. They are typically composed of sheer blocks of Precambrian quartz arenite ...
@melak47 oooh yeah!
now I can install ALL the mods
no more difficult decisions...do I compress these textures, or drop that mod :)
ah never mind.
turns out that Mako is just really shit at reporting error locations
@rightfold such beauty
12:08
my old system used to welcome me with a text to speech system "hello johannes, it is $(date)"
thats pretty cool
id want that with (in a window):
I sometimes let me be notified if a job is finished by appending a say command. I always freak out when it finally happens.
lol
i wanted to install such a tool in my room with a hotword to enable it. but I didn't find suitable software that can use hotwords
If the job takes a long time then I've forgot about it. And then suddenly this super loud robot voice telling me it copied the files to the backup drive.
such as "computer, ...." and it would be enabled by me saying "computer" and listen to commands
12:11
so essentially what the kinect does for the xbox (xbox... pause) but for your pc?
i would set up some rasbpi or something and install it in my room for enterprise feeling
@JohannesSchaub-litb -1 trigger phrase needs to be "would you kindly" :p
:D that would be really cool
i decided to wait till android has something like that and rip it
@JohannesSchaub-litb and then one day "I'm afraid I can't let you do that Johannes...."
didn't windows already have some silly voice control thing?
it needs to be activatable solely by some magic voice command, not by some keycombination. dunno whether it can do that
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Try Zarvox voice.
When will this bullshit Haskell fanboism end in me? Please make it stop before I legally marry a language.
user1804599
12:24
When you try to use a Haskell library.
user1804599
lol
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@rightfold so true :P
@Jefffrey Erlang > Haskell
I guess that's the next language I'll try to learn
it'll be the last :P
because itll kill you
12:37
Java is also good.
o_0 you high?
user1804599
Oh god lots of people are tweeting #hilterwasright.
hilter?
¬_¬ I wish it didn't take nearly a half hour to go from one line of code changed to deployed to test server
@rightfold I'm sure he once said something like "Cake is nice"
not everything he said was automatically wrong
user1804599
He’s a hero because he killed Hitler.
12:39
look at @puppy even he is sometimes right
James Gosling was right.
@thecoshman god wins again, er...thats not right
do pings work with punctuation after them, like this @Feeds?
user1804599
Walter Bright was bright.
I think I want bluetooth headphones, just so I can spin on my chair
12:40
Stroustrup was strousted truped
Jack Black is in fact not black
c-c-c-c-c-c-ombo breaker
Frank was not frank.
@thecoshman yes
@StackedCrooked I often read it as Bjarne Stormtrooper.
6
So badass.
@Jefffrey cool beans
user1804599
Keep your beans in a jar.
12:43
my beans usually come canned
how candid
user1804599
my girls usually come caned
I'd cum to caned girls
cumtext man, get some
12:46
the robot is context-free
user1804599
cumtax
std::basic_string<char>::const_iterator "==" char const* ?
@R.MartinhoFernandes cumburito
12:51
Got my wallet and cancelled month-old plans because the universe is a cunt.
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/universe is a cunt/I'm an idiot/
user3010322
I'm going to have an alias for std::thread::sleep() called std::nap ._.
user3010322
Also, I need to write a cross-platform thing that accesses CPU temperature.
user3010322
And maybe even GPU temperature.
lol good fucking luck
user3010322
12:56
So I can make my own sort-of pseudo randon number generator. :D
user3010322
@Borgleader 'Tis just a thought, I've got other things to do.
user3010322
IN FOUR HOURS I MUST BE SOMEWHERE REMEMBER THIS ME
@ThePhD IS IT A DATE?
user3010322
No, but wouldn't that be cool?
IS IT A RAPE?
user3010322
12:57
No, but wouldn't that be illegal?
fuck me, I think I've finally verified this shit...
partially...
By the way, Bjarne Shroomsoup is also a recurring one.

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