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11:00
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're supposed to read the books first
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It can come in bursts.
Xeo
Xeo
Maybe they have that :D
@BartekBanachewicz i know :/
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Someone was getting used to the Ribbon UI in excel
11:01
> The Core Language keywords alignas/alignof from the alignment proposal that was voted into the Working Paper are not implemented. Visual C++ in Visual Studio 2010 had aligned_storage from TR1. Visual C++ in Visual Studio 2012 added aligned_union and std::align() to the Standard Library and significant issues were fixed in Visual C++ in Visual Studio 2013.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit GoT theme is nice.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How far have you watched?
> The department insisted to the BBC that its staff were aware of the locations of places in England.
This reminds me of asm vs __asm
asm does nothing but __asm does
both are terrible
save your kids from asm
Ell
Ell
11:03
I played GoT board game the other day
was fun
I was the lannisters
@Alex wut Ioana contacted me on my other email too :v
I'm starting to think I should just get pragmatic as well: paste.ubuntu.com/7779712
(yes. that's our code base. and it hurts)
user2985029
@BartekBanachewicz hmm?
> We are searching for a Senior 3D Programmer (C++), so I noted your profile on LinkedIn.
Xeo
Xeo
> Senior
user2985029
11:07
@BartekBanachewicz my linked in profile? how did you get that?
right!
199 tests succeeded, 0 failed.
user2985029
I dont know anyone called Ioana (a romanian name according to google), I think you perhaps refer to AlexM.
yay me.
@Alex ah fuck. yes. Goddamn plinks. Sorry.
user1804599
@sehe ugh dat array initialisation
user2985029
11:08
@BartekBanachewicz @AlexM messages for you
Xeo
Xeo
@Puppy Your tests are faulty, obviously
lol
Ell
Ell
reading nested function parameters is confusing :S
like this: def shift[A, B, C](fun: ((A) => B) => C): A @scala.util.continuations.cpsParam[B,C]
shift takes a function taking a function taking an A and returning a B returning a C and returns an A
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes it issss
@R.MartinhoFernandes up to and including S3 premiere
11:20
jesus fuckin' christ it takes so long to run the Wide tests on Windows.
starting to wonder if I should run them in parallel.
@Lightness oh. Yeah. Just you wait, then.
I have to watching GoT, I have the first season DVD here
user1804599
@Ell What is confusing about it?
DVD? you primitive
user1804599
DVD owns.
you ought to get some of this stuff I heard they invented in Africa, you rub two sticks together in a special way and it makes light and heat
DVD is like 480p or something
@Puppy :D
yeah seriously DVD might be okay for I dunno, a smartwatch?
the resolution isn't what's primitive about it
yeah well you can pack much more in 4.7GB nowadays
it's the whole, DVD can only hold a few episodes per disc
the discs can get damaged or lost
can't re-download the content in the future (legally)
11:26
but the DVD-Video format is also shitty as hell
it just looks bad (nowadays)
@TonyTheLion woah
@R.MartinhoFernandes dammit
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Gotta have a fairly large smartwatch.
@rightfold yeah, like 1"
11:27
I watch most of my TV in 480p. nothing wrong with it
it looks terrible
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Where the fuck would you put the disk?
you are so spoilt
Bartek so smug.
2.5cm pixels, he said.
I might understand 4k vs 1080p is not that big of a change
11:28
Just.. stop talking....
at least on under 80"
user1804599
Also PS2 games worked just fine with DVDs, and they still do.
@rightfold yeah, also people used composite video cable to hook up PS2
srsly.
user1804599
Worked fine as well.
11:30
next thing I gonna hear here is gonna be that 56k modem is perfectly fine
user1804599
As did SCART.
user1804599
(And they still do.)
@rightfold That was back in the Stone Age. Also if by "worked" you mean "were easily damaged, had poor quality, and entailed shitloads of disc swapping"
composite video connection is everything but fine really.
user1804599
Never had problems with it. vOv
11:31
VGA is OK. BNC is pretty okay. Other analog signals are just freaking bad.
@rightfold is that the worst?!
@rightfold hey, Mr. Miss-The-Point
user1804599
@sehe right, there should be spaces around the + operators.
user1804599
Oh haha.
user1804599
It uses sed instead of Java regex API.
user1804599
11:34
I don't think that's bad actually. At least not compared to Java regex API.
that too. And regexen. And assuming that GNU sed is present on all systems. And not qualifying the path. And assuming stuff about working directories.
Oh the CWD thing is not in this snippet.
user1804599
The entire command should be in a shell script file.
Yes there (basically) is removeDir(".") somewhere, which acts recursively and runs as root
user1804599
Your code base is bad and you should feel bad.
@BartekBanachewicz you're getting headhunted by the HR at my company
I don't even
11:36
@rightfold your code base is in PHP lol
@rightfold doing that
Ell
Ell
@rightfold too much nesting for my brain :P
@AlexM. yeah, funny.
in other news
Kool & The Gang are cool
I'm going to tell her next time we meet something like
"yeah bartek is a cool guy, you should definitely give him a million dollars to work here"
ha ha, what would you do if I ended up being your boss :D
11:38
shrug
a million dollar offer would be nice though
if IT transfers were 1/10th as lucrative as football transfers...
a lot of people speak English at Gameloft from what I've seen, in Cluj-Napoca offices
so it's likely a large part of the employees aren't Romanian
I did spot some French accents
@AlexM. ah, like regularly. Interesting.
I wonder if it's really profitable to go east looking for jobs though
programmers live well in Romania
I already have almost twice my mom's salary, and getting close to beat my dad's
and my family is doing really well
so it's not like their salaries were tiny
11:45
@AlexM. but you mentioned living in the netherlands for a while
I never lived there :O
must have been someone else
oh okay
> COBOL-format record and record descriptors don't respond to change very well, and like any piece of business software, they are changed very often.
eh never gets old
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz And surprise, it's not bad code.
@StackedCrooked: Seems like the update machinery goes pretty smooth now. I didn't even visit the update page and it seems to have taken effect.
@rightfold there's no code in PHP I'd consider good.
user1804599
11:48
Well, then your opinion about the quality of PHP code is useless.
so is your opinion about usability of my opinion
user1804599
@Ell OIC
user1804599
Luckily it doesn't occur often in Scala, since Scala allows multi-parameter functions.
user1804599
So stuff like A => (B => (C => D)) is rare.
a multi-parameter function is still a single-parameter function
it just takes a value of a product type of all of its parameters' types
IME it nearly always makes more sense to think about it that way, because most languages wrap partial application is some weird stuff anyway, so you need all parameters, i.e. an unnamed parameter tuple object, to call the function
user1804599
11:55
Man.
user1804599
Tap water is so disgusting at work.
Xeo
Xeo
@rightfold He meant the other way around
A function taking a function taking a function...
user1804599
@Xeo I know.
user1804599
I was talking about this nesting in general.
user1804599
(Higher-than-second-order-functions.)
11:56
@Puppy Then how was the svn update triggered...?
@BartekBanachewicz I read that exact sentence last week. I don't remember where. tdWTF (Codegenception)?
@StackedCrooked No idea. I started an SVN commit then went and ate lunch whilst it was uploading. When I came back the update was visible.
@BartekBanachewicz :D
so, I randomly met my networking prof today
decided to say hello so I did
to which he replied with
"Hello I DIDN'T FINISH CHECKING THE EXAMS OKAY?"
11:58
typical
dude chill
I didn't want to know about the exams
well I do want to know
but I wasn't going to ask
user1804599
Ask him whether he has finished checking the exams already.
user1804599
Write an email bot.
speaking of that
I had to present my software engineering assignments today and didn't bother installing a local MySQL instance so I used the one on my website's server
I just knew there were going to be problems so I took my 3G modem with me
12:00
@StackedCrooked Frankly I'm not complaining, I think it's great. Just wanted to let you know.
turns out their wifi was blocking connections
so when the prof came to check my assignment and I told him I was using a remote MySQL instance he was like
"so... you hacked our firewall?"
I didn't know whether to say yes and appear badass or just point at the modem
in the end I pointed at the modem
xD
dumb fucks
"hacked our firewall" ?
user1804599
lol firewalls at school
Seriously, setting a HTTPS proxy/tunnel requires IQ of a chipmunk
if someone wants to send arbitrary data, "hacking firewall" is like the dumbest way to do that
12:04
I hacked the Windows domain when I was in high school with a friend and got our hands on the admin password.
user1804599
s/in high/high in/
@R.MartinhoFernandes I found out that if I type any username and password combo fast enough when some of the pcs were booting up, before the login screen fully loaded, it would let me log in with the random username. Never really bothered to take advantage of it, just thought it was so bizzare
> Please bear in mind
is that the right spelling?
user1804599
It should be "Please beer in mind"
I prefer "Please baar in mind"
@BartekBanachewicz my security knowledge is one level above...
uh...
12:14
@Puppy Alright then :)
tracking IP addresses with Visual Basic GUIs
so it's not great
@thecoshman We used social engineering.
Xeo
Xeo
@TonyTheLion hahahaha
12:17
I think in the future programmers working on security stuff will be in greatest demand, considering how by the look of things, everything we use will be hackable
from cars to (maybe?) implants and whatnot
@Rapptz That's what I was talking about, yes. It was unpleasant alright. (If you're wondering why, that might be because the parts that were unpleasant were unpleasantly removed.) Bye!
@AlexM. +interface
@TonyTheLion haha totally troll the non-cis world
@R.MartinhoFernandes "what's the admin password?"
@TonyTheLion I'm trans-moe
@thecoshman lol, no.
12:23
lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I always thought that in natural languages there is hardly ever a 100% right or wrong. But I'm happy to admit that the misunderstandings was mine as long as we agree that it wasn't meant offensive. Using rare languages in chats just isn't a good idea - is what I wanted to say. — Trilarion 1 hour ago
ITT Hindi is "a rare language"
I'm trans asian
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hinglish
@thecoshman After we gained admin access we used that to retrieved the hashes of all passwords and to remotely set up all the machines in the informatics department working on cracking the hashes in the background. Once that was done, we finally got the admin password.
@ParkYoung-Bae +a
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm trans asiana
user1804599
I'm trans parent.
I'm trans opaque.
Nope, doesn't work very well.
12:28
I'm a Pole and proud of it
inb4 'cism faggot and nazi
That was mean.
monopoly
now that I think about it, this word makes no sense
what about polymono
After we got the passwords we changed everyone's login script to launch a program I wrote that accepted text over TCP and TTSed it.
@BartekBanachewicz it does
who the hell flagged that god
12:31
monopoly sort of brings the idea of one to many, at least to me
you are not a god
and stop saying "faggot"
i.e. one controls many things
> That sped-up, crazy-compressed guitar at the beginning of the Sunshine Band’s “Get Down Tonight” would destroy small rodents by itself,
guitar articles are batshit crazy
Then word about the TTS server started spreading slowly and got to the point where people abused it constantly and the admins started getting suspicious.
@BartekBanachewicz "monopoly" comes from the Greek monos μόνος (alone or single) + polein πωλεῖν (to sell)
12:33
In the end the only thing the admin boss wanted to know was how we got admin access in the first place.
the "poly" there is not the same "poly" you see as a prefix to other words
@R.MartinhoFernandes TTsed it?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ooh
@Puppy Text-to-speech. It was hilarious.
lol
12:34
Ah, good times.
trapped in 80's funk help
lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes how did you?
hmm
just walked into the office whilst they were smoking?
12:37
maybe I will cut the breadcrumbs on my website entirely.
they seem pretty pointless except the "Home" link.
oh by the way
yeah, breadcrumbs are not that great
I ordered some Teflon glider stickers couple of days back
if your site needs them, it's badly organised IMO
Oh yeah, and the only reason he knew it was us was him thinking no one else could have done it.
@thecoshman Not too far from that, to be honest.
12:39
@R.MartinhoFernandes going to spill the beans
gotta tell you, stock mouse gliders are ultimately shitty compared to proper industry-grade teflon thing
or still worried you'll get detention?
and they costed me €2 for so much I could replace the gliders on 20 mice, not 1
I need a new mouse, my scroll wheel is borked... could just be dirty, but I want my excuse damn it!
@thecoshman budget?
12:41
@BartekBanachewicz :( nope
They had a CD burner in their office and they let students burn CDs there with projects and whatnot (this was before flash drives became a commonplace thing and when floppies were too small already).
@thecoshman so your budget is $nope. Funny
@BartekBanachewicz vOv engaged, with intent, remember
Normally they would be around when during the process, but we managed to gain enough trust for them to do something like "I gotta go to class, just make sure you close everything in the end".
12:42
anyway look at the A4Tech X7 series
you can get them for 10-15 GBP and they work nicely
@BartekBanachewicz as in it's not just your typical "oh yeah, lets be engaged for the next ten years", we actually plan to get married... sure we did set a fairly good time for ourselves to sort shit out...
All we had to do was go there right about when some class was starting.
they have top-grade switches (last mouse from them I had was on Omron ones) and decent sensors
@thecoshman OIC
@thecoshman Logitech MX518 and it's successors are quite popular and for good reason.
@Puppy £?
12:44
er
dunno
@thecoshman around 30 I think
And the direct successor was G5 IIRC
TIL Robot is a leet haxor haxour hacksaw ("fortunately, I speak leet")
those were also good mice, but a bit more expensive alright.
I think the 518 was discontinued in favour of a successor model
12:44
Apparently quite expensive
so they're super expensive now as they're not manufactured anymore
but I don't remember what the successor was.
@TonyTheLion what the fucking fuck
the price always shoots up for stuff that's not manufactured anymore.
12:46
you can buy those dirt cheap.
DDR2 RAM had the same thing when DDR3 became established.
@thecoshman Once alone with an machine logged as admin, we just quickly created a user named "adm" to make it sound like a system user or something.
> Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought: New Mens Cooler Brand Snugg Boot Slipper Microsuede Outer with Thick Fluffy Collar And …
Then we had to repeat the same scheme a week later because my accomplice forgot to add the user to the Administrators group. Quite the facepalm that was.
user3010322
@melak47 You betcha. :D
12:47
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
user3010322
Vector Text for DX is literally going to be using FreeType and then doing what NanoVG does, or at least extracting the best interface from that and then using that.
should've called it WOW16SRVC
actually no the WOW* stuff always looked virussy to me
@thecoshman We did get caught.
12:49
shouldn't that be just "we got caught"?
Xeo
Xeo
Emphasis
The admin boss really liked us, though. He was a bit heartbroken by it but let us off with only a warning and a prohibition of the use the computer rooms outside of class.
@BartekBanachewicz I do write what I mean.
@R.MartinhoFernandes You do do it.
12:52
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I never used my powers for evil!
@R.MartinhoFernandes sure
A TTS backdoor is hardly evil.
Converting six columns from FLOAT to DOUBLE in 130m rows. Hm. Be nice, MySQL...
user3010322
You may not have used your powers for evil, but you certainly made it easy for others to. :D
@BartekBanachewicz that's more or less what I have now
12:54
@BartekBanachewicz Both are usable in this case.
@BartekBanachewicz not in this case :P
user1804599
@TonyTheLion lol
@ThePhD How? But letting them use TTS remotely?
Everyone used it for fun.
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're making a compile-time strided array view? :O
It's too funny to use for something else.
12:56
HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?
At some point a few people were holding conversations through TTS and headphones.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit s/chess/Go/
user3010322
Kinky.
Others simply with TTS and speakers.
> Q: But! who has a driving license and unlike me isn't terrified of driving?
A: I dont have one but i'm not terrified of driving;)
Ell
Ell
.. text to speech?
12:59
Helpful.
@Ell Yes.
@ThePhD It was a whole new communication paradigm.

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