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3:00 PM
@Puppy by that token we should all be using infiniband or mellanox
 
eh, I never said that transfer-speed was all important
 
@rightfold Intense graphics!
 
@rightfold who is winning?
 
@rightfold those dots and things will eventually be textured objects or something? Just testing movement etc?
 
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@Chimera Yes.
 
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interesting.. you are really into Clojure huh?
 
he eats clojure for breakfast
 
@Puppy And now with USB 3.0 it's a no brainer.
 
@Chimera For the next ten seconds.
@Chimera Call me when you're going to pay for my USB 3.0 motherboard and associated new CPU and RAM, then we can discuss how no brainer it is.
 
@Puppy Oh, I shipped one to you. Here is the tracking number: 2349689309421
 
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3:10 PM
@AlexM. I eat Java for breakfast, and Clojure is my fork.
 
> Microsoft buys, gives away, the UnityVS plug-in for cross-platform game development.
 
@rightfold Everybody eats Java for breakfast with anything as their fork.
 
holy shit
good guy microsoft
 
@Puppy Are you working on a Commodore 64? Most modern PC's have these things called PCI slots where you can put in cards. Some even add USB 3.0 to an older computer. :-)
 
3:15 PM
> I wish they would buy Xamarin and make all of that free!
haha true
 
@Chimera Already used up for SATA3.
also, moneys.
 
@Puppy Hate when that happens. You get a job yet btw?
 
I've barely started searching
gonna resume the job hunt tomorrow or next week, depending on how easily the holes in my guts close up
 
@Puppy Still health issues? Sorry to here that.
 
nah, not really.
I had this surgery arranged when I was going to die of starvation if they didn't start feeding me through a tube or something
they said that I shouldn't cancel now that the drugs cleaned me up
they just cut me open, stick a camera in, take some samples, that's all
 
3:18 PM
did they take pics with their iPhones?
 
Do you have Crohn's or some digestive issue?
 
it's just inconvenient because I wanted to get the job search going a lot earlier but the surgery was delayed
@Chimera IBS.
 
chillin and operating this puppy look at that stomach #justdoctorstuff
 
@Puppy Oh ok, I have colitis. In the same family of problems. If you eat better it becomes less of an issue.
@AlexM. lol
 
@Chimera It's not in the same family of problems.
nobody knows what family IBS belongs to.
it's a classification, not a disease.
and the classification means, "We don't know what the fuck is wrong, take this and we hope it helps".
 
3:21 PM
@Puppy My doctor said the symptoms are much the same.
 
that means jack shit about whether or not it's in the same family of problems.
 
Are you always so fucking combative? Oh, wait, yes you are. Good god. :-)
 
I'm not saying that colitis doesn't suck, because it probably does.
I'm just pointing out that, since nobody knows what IBS is, it's hard to say that it does or does not belong to any particular family.
or hell, even that it's one singular disease.
 
@Puppy Ok, family of "symptoms".
 
personally my money is that there are several.
 
3:23 PM
so the drugs only keep it under control?
I mean you're not completely cured atm?
 
@AlexM. They're pretty good at that.
 
@AlexM. Yes, IBS, Colitis and Crohn's can only be managed. No real cure known.
 
my GP said that it could be decades before I don't need them anymore.
 
When you start shitting blood, you know you have an issue.
 
3:25 PM
dysentery?
 
I knew I had an issue when it was 8am, I had an exam at 9am, and I hadn't left the bathroom all night, for a month.
 
I had an issue with anxiety causing bowel movements so I was in the same situation before exams
but once I got to college it ameliorated to the point where I can't say I have the issue anymore
this has to be the most badass track blizzard ever released
 
@Puppy Yeah that sucks.
 
it fits the horde perfectly
 
@Chimera Well, I was like that for a whole 40 months.
but on about the first day of the 41st month, I took my first pill of am-i-trippy-line, and it was the amazings.
 
3:31 PM
@Puppy Better life through chemistry
IV pushed pain medicines are the best. When I had kidney stones and had to go the the ER because of the pain I would get IV pain medicine injected. Oh I wish I could by that stuff at the local market.
But I'd turn into a junkie in less than a week..
 
I have a new life goal
 
@chris To turn into a junkie?
 
I'm going to make a super awesome computer virus that deletes every instance of Turbo C++ everywhere
Rid the world of it completely
 
@chris I really liked Turbo Pascal. Used it on my first PC. 8088 with 2 5 1/4" drives and CGA graphics.
 
> Used it on my first PC.
 
3:35 PM
@chris Do people still use Turbo C++?
 
I learned Pascal in high school
 
Key words. It has no place except to maintain compatibility with things that are decades old
 
I still go back from time to time and write some Pascal, for fun
 
Needed opinions here. Please hop in and help me or destroy me. In both cases please make it end. I will perform blowjobs in exchange.
 
I should solve some PE problems in Pascal
 
3:36 PM
@Chimera Every single freaking school in India apparently
 
@AlexM. Yeah, I was in college when I started learning Pascal in the late 80's.
 
Why they can't just download a FREE alternative that isn't 5 billion years old is beyond me.
 
yes, I learned it in 2009
lol
 
@AlexM. My dad learned Pascal in high school :3
 
our high school was among the few that did not teach C
 
3:36 PM
@Chimera They never gave me any effective pain relief, even when I went to (our equivalent of) ER.
 
@AlexM. In my day they weren't teaching C or C++ yet. You had classes that used C but they expected you to learn it on your own time.
@Puppy That sucks dude.
 
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> Gamecock
 
It's about poultry.
 
I'll make a stylized logo of a cat
 
@Chimera I noticed, trust me.
 
3:38 PM
and call it Gamepussy
 
And it'll be about felines.
 
@Puppy Yeah, for 40 months.
 
speaking of cocks, this band has two songs I really like
 
@Jefffrey I don't like it.
It doesn't scale.
std::algorithm_if and std::algorithm_n come to mind.
 
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3:42 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eh, I know. Unfortunately HUnit (which is the other library this is based on) doesn't scale just as well.
 
Dec 12 '13 at 14:52, by Lightness Races in Orbit
Coq nearly killed my second masters semester
 
Also, lol, the coincidentally similar std::find_if_not.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hi robot. Try any SMT soldering yet?
 
@Chimera Nah.
I don't even have components.
I won't try it before I finish my current project.
 
3:44 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm going to build my own small ARM Cortex A4 board with SMT components. Just for fun.
 
I'ma try to install ubuntu... think I will destroy my computer?
 
@Chimera What do you need a Cortex for?
 
So many reference designs out there it shouldn't be hard.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't I could use a less powerful chip.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Low power use.
 
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Time for dinner.
 
user1804599
And then: joystick input!
 
3:46 PM
I'm thinking maybe LPC1768
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit must be writing voting software... oh wait that code has too few comments for that
 
@Chimera What are you building with it?
 
welp
time to change my dressings
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nothing in particular. Just a development board with space for prototyping.
 
this is gonna be hilarious
 
3:48 PM
Ah.
Once I finish this I already have a couple ideas for the next stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cool. I'm thinking of making a spectrum analyzer with some of these.
 
I want to make a set of wireless buzzers for quizzing.
 
And this looks like it might be fun to do:
 
We have one set but it's a mess with all the wires around.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes using zigbee or simple RF transceivers?
 
3:51 PM
Dunno yet.
 
I want to create a system to maintain and remotely monitor aquariums.
 
I'm using Bluetooth SPP on this one, but I dunno how well that works with multiple peers.
Nor how easy it is to find a module with multipeer support.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ZigBee is designed for peer to peer and mesh networks.
 
Seems expensive.
~$20 per module is too much. I'll need some ten of these things.
I don't know what the budget will be but $200 is way over it.
 
-1
Q: Why the book teach inefficient for loop?

user3795748for(int *beg = begin(array); beg != end(array); ++beg) ; If there are 1 mil elements, isn't it a big over-head to run the end() that many times? But the book does teach this as sample code, instead of store the end() result in another variable? Why?

aaand facepalm
 
3:59 PM
This is a one server, many clients thing: only one node needs the ability to do multiple connections.
All others can use whatever cheap dumb thing can do some one-on-one serial protocol over the air.
I'd be ok with one relatively more expensive module for the master and cheap ones for the slaves.
But I'll search more carefully once I'm done with the current thing.
 
well changing my dressings was hilarious
nothing to put you off your appetite like four holes in the gut
 
@Puppy You're a salad?
 
oh god, I'll throw up the coffee now
my mother has this (and is treating it)
Phlegmasia alba dolens (also colloquially known as milk leg or white leg) is part of a spectrum of diseases related to deep vein thrombosis. Historically, it was commonly seen during pregnancy and in mothers who have just given birth. In cases of pregnancy, it is most often seen during the third trimester, resulting from a compression of the left common iliac vein against the pelvic rim by the enlarged uterus. Today, this disease is most commonly (40% of the time) related to some form of underlying malignancy. Hypercoagulability (a propensity to clot formation) is a well-known state th...
and whenever I see the swollen veins on her legs I imagine blood coming out of them
and feel like fainting
 
> underlying malignancy
Your mom is evil.
 
lol
 
4:15 PM
@melak was it you who tried libsimdpp on VS before?
 
the treatment consists of a couple of shots which gets some sort of medication inside the veins
but instead of treating a vein, it actually slowly destroys it
making the blood that normally passed through there pass through some other vein
 
Why thank you.
 
you're welcome
 
Too late to fill in the missing comma :(
Yesterday I finally burned myself while soldering.
I still count it as a success since it's a very light burn and I succeeded a long time before it happened.
 
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Wooo joystick works.
 
4:23 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhh.
 
speaking of burns, these three apparently superficial scars caused by three droplets of boiling oil are still on my arm
I gave up thinking they'll ever go away
it's been almost 4 months already
 
<chs> is /ks/
Dammit.
Fuck you German.
4
 
Fuchs you, German!
 
I was pronouncing "Buchse" as /buχzə/ like an idiot.
And several other words.
No wonder it seemed harder than usual for me.
 
Buchse = Buxe
 
4:27 PM
ITT German has trigraphs
(Well, I knew that already, but now I realised there is one more)
 
In words like "knot" and "know" the "k" is not pronounced. However, what if the Dutch word "knot" became adopted in the English language? How would they spell it?
 
"Friedrichshain" is a lot easier to pronounce knowing this.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The "chs" in "Friedrichshain" is pronounced differently from the "chs" in "Buchse" :)
 
4:30 PM
How so?
 
isn't that because you pronounce it like "Friedrich" + "Shain"
I mean separately?
 
@AlexM. no
 
@AlexM. It's Friedrichs + Hain
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not good at phonetics.
I have no idea how to explain it over the Internet.
 
@FredOverflow Well, what else is it like?
 
4:32 PM
Do you know how to pronounce "Ich"? :) Just append "s". That's the "chs" in "Friedrichshain".
 
welp
 
@FredOverflow I don't think so.
 
I get the pronunciation right but I don't know why
 
Now that I realised about "chs", I don't think I've ever heard anyone pronouncing it that way.
 
I'm afraid to check if I know anything about my own language's rules anymore
because I'll probably find out I don't know anything
 
4:34 PM
/çs/ is rather difficult to pull off, just like /χs/ is (which is why I've been doing it like an idiot).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Friedrichs" is the genitive of "Friedrich". The suffix of that is definitely pronounced the same as "ich".
Maybe there are German dialects where it is pronounced differently, IDK.
In Berlin, anything's possible :)
 
I think this is because 99% of my german lessons were reading things out loud and talking about different topics
and 1% grammar and other rules
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Can you give example words for those phonetics?
 
@FredOverflow /χ/ is Ach-laut, /ç/ is Ich-laut.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Buchse" has neither of those in it.
 
4:37 PM
I know.
 
ok, just checking :)
 
13 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
<chs> is /ks/
 
guys I don't like working with non-technical people...
 
@FredOverflow Can you give me a word that isn't a proper noun that ends in -ichs?
 
4:40 PM
 
No one here has any idea how a website works... at all... and I don't know how to explain anything to them
 
Ah, found one.
 
-1: This still violates ODR. You just don't get a diagnostic because the use of HOST_NAME happens to be optimised away for you ... this time. — Lightness Races in Orbit 10 secs ago
right?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wichs? ;)
 
That's /vɪks/, no?
 
4:42 PM
correct
 
@Jefffrey context?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes guy, your usb charger pack, what brand is it? would you recommend it?
 
The LED thing is annoying. I'd recommend getting one without it.
@thecoshman Brand is Anker.
Gimme a sec.
 
4:44 PM
GO AWAY
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Asus?
 
oh yeah, internal linkage
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok then, it's a 10Ah you have right?
 
Nah, mine is 15.
 
4:47 PM
oooh
 
I'd say pick your ideal physical size and grab the one with the most capacity on that size.
Mine is about the width and height of my Galaxy S3, and about three times as thick (the S3 is quite thin, though)
 
why do clients always seem to like such UGLY websites? They find the worst sites on the internet and seem to want that
 
it's for festival , so (within reason) size is not really a problem
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...maybe. I don't recall, so I probably didn't use it after all
 
hell, if I can get it cheap enough, I might even get a pair vOv
 
Xeo
4:50 PM
those things are dirt-cheap
 
It has a 1A output and a 2A output. As I learned on my trip, the 1A output is not enough to hold the charge on the S3 with LTE, GPS, and full screen brightness.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what do you mean?
 
user1804599
Yay.
 
user1804599
You can now walk with WSAD.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman the usb ports
 
4:52 PM
oooh, 22.4Ah
@Xeo I know that part, but the 'hold charge' part
 
@thecoshman I mean that the S3 with all that shit turned on consumes slightly more than 1A.
 
you mean keeping the phone at 100% whilst using the phone?
 
Xeo
@thecoshman fight against the battery drain
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah
 
I.e. the battery slowly goes down.
Turn off the screen and it speeds back up.
(Fucking screen is such a power whore)
 
4:54 PM
what you guys make of that one - link again
 
Xeo
Oh, I see Robot has learned about the wonders of 'ch(s)'
 
Woah.
36 pounds?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's what it says
 
It's not too large either.
 
4:56 PM
only half kilo too, which seems light enough for back pack
 
Seems like a nice deal to me.
 
yeah, don't see any catches to it
and it charges so many things :P
 
Well, usually cheap high-capacity accumulators suffer from not having the advertised capacity.
Or having it until you charge it for the third time.
 
though that seems too cheap...
and that sounds like bad logic too...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Spaces only go before compound punctuation
 
yeah... at least that 22.4Ah looks reasonably sized
 
@thecoshman It has a LED.
Dealbreaker for me.
Fucking LED should die in a fire.
 
place it led down?
 
> 4 smart LEDs display remaining power
 
My tower case blinks the LED when PC is in sleep state
 
5:05 PM
now that's retarded
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but I canny see where you turn that on/off
 
A bright blue LED
 
> Note:The item has a capacity of 50,000 mA,but the available capacity is associated with the board's conversion,your device's usage may reduce its storage capacity. And it will be occupied a part capacity during the convert. Hope you know that. Thanks!
 
Who the fuck
I just ugh
 
they might as well install a police siren
 
5:06 PM
@thecoshman On mine it's the same button to turn on charging.
@milleniumbug Not what I mean.
It's a LED flashlight.
Perfect for accidentally turning it on in your backpack and waste away all that charge illuminating nothing.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh... My condolences.
 
that applies to anything that can be turned on
 
You don't turn on a portable charger.
 
Yeah, a convenient accidental discharge device in a power bank is one of the dumbest things if you ask me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, but I'm not you :P
 
5:10 PM
@thecoshman You just have to have it in the backpack with something else.
Or sit down with the backpack on your back.
Or a zillion other simple and otherwise harmless things.
I honestly recommend just punching the thing out.
Get a proper flashlight with a battery that you can charge through USB :P
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus hibernate ftw
Oh yeah. Did I ever mention what came out of the salary talk?
 
@CatPlusPlus Mine does too, but it's not a very bright one. You definitely cannot see under its light.
@Xeo No. Nothing?
 
Xeo
Nah. I actually turned it into more of a performance review. Apparently, I'm too focused on the fun stuff, instead of the stuff that needs to get done :(
 
lol, backfired?
 
Xeo
not really
 
5:24 PM
So, did you get it?
 
Xeo
we're starting a new project soon, and will see in 2-3 months if/how I improved. If all's good, it's at least a 10% raise. And then checking again close to the end of the year for more, maybe.
welp, went better than expected at the very least
 
Xeo
They could've told me my mis-focus earlier, though...
 
I imagine if I were a boss and an employee asked me for a raise that it would be hard to simply say 'no'.
 
Mine doesn't seem to struggle
Just "you know how it is" and laughing it off
 
5:26 PM
He said that?
 
I'm getting quite frustrated that nobody in management at my company seems to have the balls to stand up and say "er, wait, we should actually change this crap..."
Yeah nobody got a bonus or a raise this year, not even inflationary.
 
I think that I should be paid more. But I am not lacking in my daily needs so I don't get motivated to ask for a raise.
 
Xeo
We're also having a not-swimming-in-money situation right now, but we're not exactly at the hard limit either
 
i need to get around to doing my monthly budget this evening. and last month's
and then I need to find ways to save
@Xeo they've started formally requiring the in-office folk to turn off their laptops and all non-essential equipment when they leave for the night ^_^
 
Xeo
lol
 
5:32 PM
in other news i've been putting off showering because it's fortnightly shave day and I really cba. but it's 6.30pm now. and starving. no food in house. better get on with it, i'd say....
 
Two years ago I moved to a smaller apartment. And my salary has been raising bit by bit over the years. Meanwhile my spending hasn't increased so much.
So my bank account keeps accumulating more money.
I should probably put it on a savings account.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah, if you want a flashlight, you want a good one, right?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hint: nothing happens if you don't shave
 
beards happen
 
ITT @StackedCrooked is a smug git :P
 
@thecoshman unless you can't grow a proper beard
then you look like an adult with a teenager's beard
 
5:34 PM
@AlexM. ಠ_ಠ
 
@JohanLarsson The lounge, yesterday.
 
@thecoshman wat, did I miss something?
 
I've been using soap as shaving cream for a while now. It works just as good.
Soap and hot water.
 
I think the hot water is doing most of the job tbh.
 
Or shampoo if I'm out of soap.
 
5:36 PM
@Jefffrey yeah
 
I keep on accidentally pressing the "save for later" or w/e button on youtube's players because it's so close to the settings button :(
 
@AlexM. same
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Or you grow a Robot Beard
 
robot beards are really just layers of dirt
because they don't grow hair. but they still want to pretend being human.
 
5:41 PM
why whoever wrote this
> while OPEN is not empty or until a goal is found
do
 
user1804599
// How do you avoid duplicate else clauses in functional programming? For example:
if x
  then let z = something that only works when x is true
        in if z
             then z
             else b
  else b
 
didn't choose to write
> while OPEN is not empty and we haven't found a goal
do
is beyond me
 
user1804599
In imperative programming I would do an early return.
 
Xeo
if x && z then z else b?
 
user1804599
You cannot do that, because z is not in scope yet.
 
Xeo
5:44 PM
if x && z then z else b
  where z = ...
vOv
short-circuiting etc
 
user1804599
Oh right, making z lazy does the trick.
 
user1804599
Thanks!
 
Xeo
that's got nothing to do with laziness, really
where z () = ... would work as well
 
user1804599
let in Clojure is non-lazy.
 
user1804599
So it would immediately evaluate ....
 
Xeo
5:46 PM
ah, okay
 
user1804599
Causing an error since x is nil.
 
5:59 PM
I didn't know these existed
 

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