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user3010322
1:00 PM
Meh, oh well.
 
user3010322
Figure it out later.
 
> error: expected type-specifier before ‘__m256i’
WTF
Did I accidentally revert to an older GCC without AVX2?
 
what a funny type
ah, avx2
 
Now clang too?
WTF
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, you came back to a point in time where modern compilers dont support AVX2 :P
 
Xeo
1:07 PM
Today's not Robot's day
 
R. Terminator Fernandes =/
 
All aboard the fap bus (found it while coming back from uni).
 
hasBuggyRefCounter sounds like an upcoming "feature" for the GL renderer.
=/
 
1:10 PM
@Jefffrey fap fap fap
@Xeo Had your salary meeting yet?
 
@TonyTheLion this accurately describes my users, though.
 
@TonyTheLion it was celery meeting
 
oh celery
 
Since every system I produce I have to follow to site and commission, which includes training... I can say definitely that those are my users.
 
1:12 PM
celebrate the celery
weeeeeee
fap fap fap
 
grrr.
anybody here using YouCompleteMe?
 
nah
 
damn error, it works both in g++ and clang++ on the command line but YCM insists on having its own version of libclang, which doesn’t find the default include paths :/
 
I wanted to give it a try but when I saw all the dependencies that had to be set up
I said fuck it
 
@AlexM. You mean: 0?
okay, CMake and Vim
 
1:22 PM
@KonradRudolph ah your vim looks a lot like mine :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think there is currently a great convergence going on, where most people zero in on the most advanced configuration
 
inb4 rightfold showing up and bashing solarized again
@KonradRudolph well, except I have ghc-mod instead of those cpp thingies :)
 
@AlexM. It’s literally two commands to install on a properly set up system. Bundle 'Valloric/YouCompleteMe and ./install.sh --clang-completer
 
@ScottW ohai :)
 
1:25 PM
@AlexM. Oh, Windows. Well, duh. What did you expect?
 
@KonradRudolph there are windows users (hint: puppy) who still refuse to install python vOv
 
@BartekBanachewicz I respect that. But then they cannot complain about complicated configuration
 
sounds like puppy to me
 
@KonradRudolph tmux with Powerline?
 
I think it's zsh
 
1:26 PM
I wish I had the balls to configure gVim
 
I haven't seen such a thing for tmux
@TonyTheLion get robot's setup and tweak?
 
wait robot has a setup online?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually it’s just a special .tmux config that works slightly better (but is less configurable) than Powerline
 
@BartekBanachewicz And no, no zsh. Bash all the way. Old-fashioned, I know. I could never be bothered to learn anything else
 
1:28 PM
@KonradRudolph ohcool.
goooosh
I'm leaving for my interview soon
how much moneys do I want :/
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Take these.
 
wait are you for real now
 
@sbi Dude! At work
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Of course I'm at work. Where else should I be in the middle of the day?
 
Should I push them to make the first offer?
 
1:29 PM
@sbi Well in a Biergarten obviously!
 
@BartekBanachewicz All of it!
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz Are you talking about that pic I posted??
 
user1804599
PixelJunk Shooter 2 is pretty nice.
 
1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I'm leaving for my interview soon
you got in the middle of that rant, kinda
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh thanks :)
 
sbi
1:30 PM
@KonradRudolph Sadly, even Germans don't get paid for being at a biergarten.
 
so, in terms of actual git, what is github's fork feature? Just cloning and then pushing to remote?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Probably not. Instead, you should come to the interview knowing how much you're worth
 
@Mr.kbok I don't want to overshoot though
I have a fairly solid intel (no pun intended) on the rates here
 
@BartekBanachewicz The consequences would be far less severe than underevaluating yourself
 
and I'm not a junior thingy anymore, fuck this shit it's my 3rd job
 
1:32 PM
that's the spirit
 
3rd in not very long
 
ask them for ALL THE MONEY
 
You know what's very long
 
@Mr.kbok I'd actually accept a bit less money if they'll buy me the setup I want as the sign-on bonus
 
WAT
 
user1804599
1:33 PM
@BartekBanachewicz dat pun
 
I need to use a trigger to set the default DATE of a Mysql field? WTF
 
srsly?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Is that even possible though? Is this a small company?
 
inb4 MySQL is a terrible piece of shit
 
@Mr.kbok yes, a small startup.
 
1:34 PM
@Jefffrey You need to use not MySQL probably
 
and it's not unprecedented...
 
@Mr.kbok Tell that to my uni teacher.
 
but I'd like something really fucking high-end
meaning top-spec Surface Pro
because it is pretty damn awesome and I'd never afford it myself (well I'd prolly spend the money or something else rather than paying that much for a mobile device)
 
I can't use DEFAULT NOW() or DEFAULT CURRDATE() or DEFAULT CURRENT_TIMESTAMP and I've seen two times already people telling this is not possible because the default value needs to be a constant.
 
@BartekBanachewicz If it stays with the company, then the value for you is much less than the salary.
 
1:35 PM
Yea, seems like the new Surface Pro is quite pricy indeed
dayumn
 
Nazism is growing within me.
 
@Mr.kbok nope, it doesn't.
 
@Jefffrey godwin loves you
 
user1804599
@Jefffrey fail
 
well, stuff like screens maybe does
 
user1804599
1:36 PM
In PostgreSQL you can do that.
 
but not the PCs AFAIK
 
I KNOW
 
user1804599
It will evaluate the expression at creation time.
 
jesus christ
 
@TonyTheLion that's not the top-spec version. 256GB is 1339 GBP
 
1:36 PM
 
user3010322
So I update to Windows 8.1 and now all DX 11 applications are eating the shit.
 
user3010322
... What the hell.
 
Oh, Jeffrey on Cyanide & H. is like Britta on Community.
 
so okey I don't really need 512GB SSD
256 would be enuff
 
@Jefffrey Yeah :)
 
user1804599
1:38 PM
Let’s see how crappy this is.
 
user1804599
woot it uses RAII
 
user1804599
A C++ LIBRARY THAT USES RAII
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@TonyTheLion MySQL is a terrible piece of shit
 
@rightfold A rare gem.
 
@rightfold then it's prolly dysfunctional
Okey, I'm off
 
user1804599
1:40 PM
 
@Mr.kbok litl sno flek
 
user1804599
Oh well.
 
user1804599
Wrapping Allegro is easy anyway.
 
should I buy a laptop, or try to make it through school as a computer science major without a computer? I bet the classes are easy enough
 
user1804599
Laptop.
 
user1804599
1:42 PM
Unless you want to be bored during lectures.
 
@TonyTheLion 12" ? it's huge
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz If you know what you're worth, then to "overshoot" means you're to good for what they pay. And if that's the case, why would you want to work there?
 
@Crow Do yourself a favor and get a laptop. It's not that expensive if you only need to code
 
@rightfold one time I oil painted during a lecture without the teacher noticing
 
user1804599
lol
 
1:47 PM
school is stupidly easy though
 
it's simpler for me to present assignments on my laptop
 
@BartekBanachewicz damn
 
I don't have to install dependencies and whatnot on their PCs
I just bring the laptop in, show the program to my prof, then leave
 
You can optimise this process by skipping the first two parts
 
well I did that once
now I still have to do the assignments to get a passing grade because I found out at the end they were worth 40% of the final grade lol
 
1:52 PM
The prof did that once to me.
We're starting to present our terribly unfinished assignment, and then he gets a call and goes out the door saying "You can keep going". There was no one else in the room.
 
on github, it is possible to leave comments on a git project?
 
no
 
He came back fifteen minutes later and by then we were "done".
 
@Crow but I heard they'll soon let you like projects
and befriend other developers
 
1:54 PM
kinda weird that they offer it on gist.github.com files but not github files...
 
> but it is totaly mistake source
 
I suck so bad at calculating stuff like my grade if it's done like this
exam 1 - 5,5 (30%)
exam 2 - 6,9 (30%)
assignments - 1 (40%)

final grade - 4,12
 
wow such mistake
 
how the hell do you get to 4,12
how do you calculate that :(
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes How did he grade you?
 
1:57 PM
14 out of 20.
I know as much as you do.
 
Xeo
@AlexM. uhh... 5.5 * 0.3 + 6.9 * 0.3 + 1.0 * 0.4 = 4.12
 
@AlexM. 5.5*0.3 + 6.9*0.3 + 1*0.4
Damn.
 
0.3 + 0.3 + 0.4 adds up to 1
I get it now, thanks :D
 
Xeo
lol
math be hard
 
ikr
 
user1804599
2:09 PM
Geometry is hardest.
 
Xeometry is hardest.
 
user1804599
Ugh.
 
user1804599
Physics simulation library
 
user1804599
> Features
> Canvas renderer
 
heh
 
user1804599
2:13 PM
What the fuck is wrong with people.
 
@rightfold Dunno - maybe the 'intelligent designer' screwed up.
 
user1804599
Dumb designer.
 
@rightfold Yeay, and he'she/it has plenty of company.
I'm looking at this code and it seems it was written by filling a shotgun cartridge with symbols and magic numbers and firing it at the compiler.
 
My maybe new workplace
 
@BartekBanachewicz Will they finish construction first?
 
2:25 PM
They are building more offices behind the front one
It has been in use for quite some time
 
@rightfold the thing that has taylor series in it is the hardest
I think it's calculus or sth
 
I am here too early in case you haven't noticed
Surprisingly short commute
 
I'm being trolled
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A: How to minimize the size of Qt applications?

rubenvbIn theory, you can do any of the following: Disable the Qt features you don't use. See the official documentation on the subject. Use an older Qt version, which has less dependencies on e.g. ICU and less libraries in total. Build everything with link-time optimizations, including the Qt DLLs. Y...

 
@BartekBanachewicz, Parking enforcement officer? :)
 
@kimi totally
I wouldn't mind it in such a weather
 
2:27 PM
 // sigh, here because no constexpr in MSVC
Found this old comment.
 
Esp considering they ride segways here
 
@BartekBanachewicz "Welcome to SoftwareCorp! As you know, we are still building the new offices and so, for now. you are in portacabin 6 on car park 3. We're hopeful there will be power on next month".
 
None of this code works on MSVC because it ICEs anyway.
Sigh. Why did I bother back then.
 
They are building a lot around here
 
dammit
I thought we had like 5 minutes to edit messages here
 
2:29 PM
It's 5 stops from my new apartment :)
Well half an hour left
 
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds good:)
 
Fuck Windows 8. This morning my mom's PC decided that chrome wouldn't run. And the event viewer is being flooded with errors about services not responding quickly enough. And of course what they tell you to fix in the registry... is already fixed.
tl;dr fuck windows 8
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I'd go to star boobs but I had enough coffee today
 
beginning to get nervous about tomorrow 10am already
sigh
 
What's tomorrow 10?
 
2:31 PM
@Xeo had your meeting yet? :)
 
Oh no a cloud
Inb4 I've moved to the cloud
 
@BartekBanachewicz phone interview
 
@lig are you moving too?
BTW did @Ell mention how his interview went?
 
he said it went well IIRC
 
He mentioned hotel
That would mean moving away
 
2:37 PM
16 hours ago, by Ell
@tony it went mostly well thank you :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz ...or moving toward, depending on your perspective.
 
Didnt he live with/very close to his parents
 
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A: Why zero-initialization is not a Static Initialization

Lightness Races in OrbitThe post you link to says that zero-initialization is not static initialization. This is correct. That is very different from zero-initialization is not a static initialization! This is not correct.

lol?
 
user1804599
 
@Borgleader Shame it isn't s/For/And
 
lol
 
@jalf You want to ban anyone born after the year 2000? ಠ_ಠ
 
Anyone born after 1992. 1993 in particular.
 
you almost fall into that category
 
2:44 PM
@Borgleader I like how "Doctors vote on recommendation" translates to "Nanny state strikes again!!!"
 
yean cos bans work
@Jefffrey what about it?
the question stemmed from the OP mangling the text he tried to quote and then misunderstanding it as a result
 
@Borgleader Yes! They are the worst! :p
 
Politicians will never go for an outright ban, that would cut off a key source of tax revenue.
 
Erm no
I mean yes
You're right
Smokers more than fund the NHS burden
but they also die, horribly, and early, so...
 
And?
I don't see the negative yet
natural selection at work
 
2:54 PM
it would be nice for the NHS to be slightly less funded, but spend even less than that on smokers and therefore assign nurses and doctors to people who don't hurt themselves
@SamDeHaan No, the average smoker dies long after childrearing age
 
ban all healthcare for smokers instead of ban smokers?
 
For natural selection to wipe out your shitty ways, you have to die before you have kids
 
Hmm, true
 
@SamDeHaan now distinguish between a smoking-related illness and a non-smoking-related illness
 
then, you would have to discriminate obese people as well
 
2:55 PM
hmm, why would the compiler not perform ADL for std::get(std::tuple<>)?!
 
@KonradRudolph what language?
 
… because it’s a template
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How many languages have ADL, std::?
 
@KonradRudolph Just answer the damn question!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ?!
 
i'm going to have to start sending scripts out ahead of time for these skits :(
now I'll never get to use this:
> I just got you to answer your own question. Trolling complete; have a nice day.
 
2:57 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit probably python
 
spoilsport :(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No. Just any healthcare for smokers. Flu shot, yearly checkup, etc. All of it banned.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Smokers die early, but not necessarily quickly (at all). Over their lifetime, they average something like 50-60% higher healthcare costs than non-smokers.
 
3:11 PM
time to MOD the shit out of Morrowind and give it another spin
 
I wonder what kind of rig you need for that
it's basically just as good as CryEngine 3's demos, if not better
old screen from some of CE3's demos
 
this guy is a genius
 
3:37 PM
:O
 
I don't understand any of this code.
I wrote it.
It's too advanced for me.
 
drink some vodka
or do whatever you did when you was writing it
 
4:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Code for work?
 
It's not even that it's crap, or rushed. It even has comments.
 
@AlexM. my 780 struggles with it :/ (damn 2560x1440 screen :P)
@R.MartinhoFernandes show us :D
 
4:21 PM
WTF
proto::child(proto::left(expr)) works fine, but typename proto::result_of::child<typename proto::result_of::left<Expr>::type>::type doesn't compile.
 
proto::say_what?
 
He thinks we know what he is talking about
 
I'm making progress faster than I can understand what is happening.
 
I downloaded some cruddy triangulation library, and it works! wheee /cc @Borgleader
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, sometime later, probabaly when I'm drunk, I'll work out if that is a good or bad thing.
 
4:31 PM
 
@melak47 gj :)
I should get back to mine one day =/
 
yes you should :p
 
@MartinJames It's bad. I'm approaching the saturation threshold when further progress and understanding the previous progress will both be impossible.
 
They want to hire me
Now the question is only money
 
4:33 PM
@JerryCoffin Yeah I just meant to say that their families suffer an "early" loss of a relative, and that this is not typically desirable (though some of the people I know may make their family rather pleased in such a scenario)
 
The CEO said that he wants to give me more than he earns himself
 
I do genuinely believe that the anti-smoking camp is trying to fix that sort of problem, as much as any of the financial burden shit (which, as I said before, is not what people think it is; at least not in the UK, where tobacco taxes are astronomical compared to other lands)
 
Which is obviously less than I wanted
But.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Did you apply for a job sucking off a beggar?
 
4:34 PM
Are you drunk? High? Missing a kidney?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I write multithreaded apps - I rarely understand what they are doing at any one point :)
 
In theory if this startup goes ok I'll earn a lot more
Which is an if
He basically said
That he don't want to buy people
I.e. deliberately offers less to get people that really want to work there
Thing is I think I want to work there
 
If I can understand what my apps are doing I consider it a design failure.
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He'll tell me tomorrow how much he will offer
 
@BartekBanachewicz uh
 
4:37 PM
The Messi Show is not upping the ratings ATM.
 
If he offers me >75% of what I asked I'll take it
 
@MartinJames I don't like the idea of being outclassed by a machine.
 
I think giving people money to resign is a better way of finding out who wants to work there
 
He doesn't really have that many people to begin with
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But ... you are... oh whats the point
 
4:39 PM
@AlexM. That has too many false positives.
 
Either way, I want 1.5k£ pc
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're only outclassed by the machinery in a niche area. A machine, for example, would not be able get lost.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Cue PII in a gold-plated box.
 
@MartinJames Tell that to Apple maps
 
@AlexM. I think I'd feel kind of unwelcome if my boss came up to me and said "I'll give you ${bunch of money} if you leave and never come back" :p
 
4:41 PM
@Borgleader They're better now. All positioning errors > 500km have been fixed.
 
@melak47 I wouldn't
dunno about false positives, but it seems like a great idea to me
> Any new hire (North America only for now) can elect to Queue Dodge at any time during their first 60 days

Those who elect to Queue Dodge will be paid 10% of their annual salary, up to $25,000
 
lol, gamedev.
How surprising.
 
> Sound familiar? If all of this sounds familiar, that’s because we’re not first. We watched Zappos, that insanely customer-focused company, with wonder and amazement when they announced back in 2009 that they were paying people $2,000 to quit.
so nah, it's not just gamedev
 
I need to create an Integer Sequence from an Audio file. I was checking the waveform libraries as that draw a linear graph. But I am searching for the key information, What is the source of the integer that is used to draw the graph ? is it amplitude ? or something else ?
 
Is it my imagination, or is Lionel Messi slowly morphing into Wayne Rooney?
 
4:44 PM
also...if you quit in the first 60 days...you get 10% of the annual salary. if you just work those 2 months you get 2/12 = 16.666% of your annual salary :p
seems like a shit deal :p
 
hometime drinktime
 
@melak47 Quit after the first month and you get 13.333% for half the time.
 
ah, yeah should have read the article =/
 
@AlexM. lol, "insanely customer-focused" seems a good descriptor for a company that does that.
@melak47 If you quite after one month you get 18.333%.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah you get your first month plus the 10% :)
 
4:50 PM
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@Griwes It's going to happen fo realz
 
Hello noobs.
 
@Rapptz Hey loser
 
Belgium vs US today
 
Belgium vs Belgium
 
4:55 PM
I want the US to win in order to further the moral decay of the nation.
 
@Rapptz I hope it's better than the Argie/Cuckoos game: 'Argentina have been the flattest team at this World Cup, I'm ready for bed after that first half.'
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol cue "I didn't care about this sport anyway!"
 
user3010322
@Rapptz You have the teamcity link?
 
?
 
user3010322
To the loungecpp teamcity page
 
4:56 PM
this?
 
user3010322
I forgot the format
 
user3010322
OH IT'S CI.LOUNGECPP
 
user3010322
I was trying loungecpp.net/ci and /teamcity
 
Wiki. Wink. Wink. Winki.
MY BRAIN IS MELTING THE TEMPLATES ARE TOO STRONG
 
Obey the templates
 
4:59 PM
Do you guys watch it in English?
 
btw I don't think that 'articles since' counter works
 
inb4 compiler internal error
 
user3010322
@melak47 Cool!
 
Also did I mention MediaWiki is terrible
 
@Rapptz On German TV they have German commentators.
 

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