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18:01
I wonder if they'll bring in any delirium tremens
it would save me from having to order online and pay tons on courier expenses
No flights from my local airport to Romania:(
are there no Auchans in the UK?
I thought they're the international supermarket chain type
or at least European
Hmmm.
Hi.
I just got the last available room in town. I think I'll call hostels in advance from now on.
lol
hello robot
Tomorrow I'm leaving the state.
Now I need to find some dinner. Preferably meaty.
18:07
@R.MartinhoFernandes Buried the body okay?
@R.MartinhoFernandes kebab
@MartinJames However, they do have flights to ... themselves.
@AlexM. Not round here, anyway:(
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@StackedCrooked ehh wollah
@AlexM. Never even heard of it
Groupe Auchan SA () is a French international retail group and multinational corporation headquartered in Croix, France. It is one of the world's principal distribution groups with a presence in 12 countries and 269,000 employees. The company began when Gérard Mulliez opened his first self-service shop in Roubaix in the district of Hauts-Champs -pronunciation is very similar to "Auchan". Auchan has branches in France, and internationally in Italy, India, Spain, Portugal, Luxembourg, Poland, Hungary, Russia, China, Taiwan, Romania and Ukraine. , Auchan had 639 hypermarkets and 2,412 su...
(There's a hash on that URL) 31 Hypermarkets in Romania; 0 in the UK. You're right about them being international, but they just haven't made it here specifically..
18:10
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Eh? EMA to EMA? Sounds about as useful as an exercise bike.
@MartinJames inorite
Maybe they have to declare that otherwise, in an emergency after takeoff, when you say "mayday mayday mayday mike hotel two seven zero requesting emergency landing, contact with bird on takeoff, one engine down" they have to tell you "sorry but you'll have to fly to edinburgh, mate. good luck"
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@MartinJames ENEMA to ENEMA.
@rightfold Only if you eat the sandwiches from pret-a-manger.
I'm too tired to go find food.
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Does anyone know a good tentacle porn blog on Tumblr?
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18:13
Wonder if there's a pizza delivery here.
wait why am I starring that
(Yeah, right)
that's better
cya later alligator
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cycling 7km and then being unable to get food doesn't sound too good for your long-term survival.
woah wait what I missed @DemCodeLines within the last hour??
18:14
I cycled 70km today, not 7.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what?
@DemCodeLines which part confuses you
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fuck me! Has a km shrunk since I last looked it up?
You're asking me what you missed?
@MartinJames no. he's insane.
18:15
@LightnessRacesinOrbit did you just flag rightfold?
@DemCodeLines When did I say that?
@Jefffrey no
Never mind.
@DemCodeLines o.O
@Martin why would it?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, it seems like, well, a long way. In fact it is a long way. It's an annoying trip by car.
18:17
@LightnessRacesinOrbit do you know JavaScript?
By car it would be a lot shorter because Autobahn.
@DemCodeLines If he does, he may not admit to it.
I'm 87km away from Berlin by car, but I travelled 120km by bike.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cycle track a bit winding?
@DemCodeLines Yes
@MartinJames No
18:19
It's just not straight through like the highway.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's ridiculous. That's like two hours in the car peaking at 90mph. Wtf.
Did it take you a week?
It goes through the small towns.
@Lightness two days.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It'll cost more too, once you factor in the six pizzas required to provide fuel for the trip.
Dunno how many active hours. Maybe around eight.
@MartinJames aye
@R.MartinhoFernandes See!
You have some kind of logic error in your neural net
18:21
See what?
Why?
6 mins ago, by DemCodeLines
Never mind.
A 15 km/h average is not too much with a nice route.
Two full days on a bike is too much, on any route.
Anyway, haven't you been chatting here? I'm confused. I suppose, as a Robot, you don't need to use your eyes and hands to Lounge.
18:23
Do you know I plan to continue for five more?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Two full hours on a bike is too much, on any route.
@MartinJames Two full minutes on a bike is too much, on any route.
I've chatted a few times for a few minutes when I took breaks.
You guys are just fatsos.
:P
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, so you'll be dead before the unconference. We'll turn it into a wake. I'll take your concert ticket.
Well, I'm off for a shower before I hit town looking for food.
18:25
..and two monitors. I haven't space for six.
We can sell of the other four on ebay to get beer money.
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds awesome! :)
pub time
Doom tonight, gloom tomorrow
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Doom Bar later:)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Do you mind helping me?
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@FredOverflow nice
18:32
3 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
pub time
However if you're still here when I get home in a few hours then I'd be happy to.
And frankly the place is quiet at this time so I may even pop on with my phone. You never know.
Tata
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@FredOverflow Where have I seen that UI before? :P
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, in case you check and find time, here it is:
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Q: ListView iteminvoked works fine in Windows app, but not in Windows Phone app

DemCodeLinesI am building a universal Windows 8 App in JS/HTML and the following code is giving me problems. This code works fine in the Windows app. I see a "Hi" logged in the console when an item is clicked on. However, on Windows Phone, the following code refuses to run the consle.log("Hi") command. hell...

@rightfold I don't know. Oh yeah, I spoiled you the other day :)
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I can understand most of what you say.
That's amazing. When someone speaks Dutch, 95% is gibberish to me.
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18:38
Though I don’t like setVisible(true) in a constructor. :[
Threading problems?
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I don’t see it as its responsibility.
Debatable I guess. I'm not too passionate about these things.
where's the love :(
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The love for TENTACLES?!?
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18:41
Also meh non-English identifiers.
Tentacles are only a substitute for love.
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But I looove tentacles. :3
In your case love is a substitute for tentacles :P
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@FredOverflow You should have used a lambda for the action listener. :P
@rightfold You have no idea how tempted I was to introduce lambdas... hopefully I'll get a third invitation. Then it's 45 minutes of lambda, baby!
18:43
Hmm. loungecpp.slack.com is taken....
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My colleague wrote a program in Scala yesterday.
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Also using Swing.
Did kittens die?
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I think not.
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But colleagues knowing nice tools is a good thing. 👍
18:45
@FredOverflow A dog exploded.
Definitely. If I didn't have some colleagues who are interested in Scala and C++, I would have committed suicide a long time ago.
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lol quatsch
What is the Dutch word for Quatsch? :)
user1804599
“Onzin” or “bullshit.”
user1804599
German has Unsinn IIRC.
18:46
Yes, Unsinn. Which means nonsense.
Quatsch is more playful
user1804599
Quatsch sounds like squash.
Quatsch rhymes with Dutch :)
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@FredOverflow “Nonsens” is also used in Dutch.
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18:48
Bullshit, dwaasheid, gekheid, nonsens, onzin and zever are roughly synonyms.
Green bell pepper farts are the worst.
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Gotta love German.
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Dutch: ambulance
English: ambulance
Italian: ambulanza
Spanish: ambulancia
German: KRANKENWAGEN
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Who registered loungecpp on slack?
Slovak: sanitka; vOv
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18:52
@ScarletAmaranth Where’s the sanity?
@rightfold CAR OF THE SICK
Apr 30 at 22:22, by Cat Plus Plus
So if you want to try out Slack for Unconference stuff or whatever, gimme your mail
oh
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@FredOverflow We sometimes say “ziekenwagen” as well. :P
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Ich bin krank in meinem Kopf.
ow
@CatPlusPlus is the slack thing still on going?
18:54
@rightfold you should be impaled. this way we'd have alle gekheid op een stokje.
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Elke gek zijn gebrek.
@Jefffrey Yes?
And you lads are using it for the unconference?
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Kim Jong-unconference
18:58
nevermind then
@StackedCrooked I looked up "impalement" in Wikipedia. The fuck did I just read?!
@TonyTheLion Go back to the tentacle porn.
I've run out of bananas:( Maybe I'll goto Tesco b4 beer.
dat cover artwork :D
19:09
not sure what I'm looking at
I see a toilet.
oh, right
probably blood too
@Dem OK I'll keep it open in a tab
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19:14
QUESTION
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Can a template function use a class before its defined, so long as the template function is never instantiated until AFTER the class is defined?
I love C++
@ThePhD I don't think it can
LRIO is already reading the standard and writing an SO question that he will answer himself half a minute later
@ThePhD: Try it and see...?!
19:16
@ThePhD sure
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I know it'll work with MSVC, because VC++ allows anything to be writtne inside of a template and then will worry about ti when it gets instantiated
@StackedCrooked won't the compiler complain... a lot?
Nah not on my phone, @Scarlet
@ScarletAmaranth no
oh, wait
@StackedCrooked are you sure?
19:17
it can not use a non-template class which is not yet defined
I probably misread.
@ThePhD I don't think two-phase lookup allows this.
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@FredOverflow It does.... partially.
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dirty2 gets away with it because.... I don't know.
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dirty1 doesn't
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19:21
Wait, nevermind
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dirty2 doesn't get away with it, just MVP screwing me over.
I can't seem to be able to figure out why you would want that actually
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None of it works, even though the template is never instantiated.
@FredOverflow DeadMG has finally exploded.
19:23
hehe
so this is what dead's toilet looks like
@MartinJames I have?
Everything is closed in this god forsaken place.
I guess I'll have to make dinner out of a pair of Snickers bars I have in my backpack.
nom nom
fatty :P
Even bars are closed.
wow it's 21:36 on a Friday
er, 22:36 where you are.
20:36 here.
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19:37
You can capture something in a lambda by value, right?
of course
Found a pizzeria!
user3010322
Just by not putting any ampersans on the thing?
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Pizza, savoir of man!
19:37
Snickers will survive.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Where are you, Antarctica?
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:(
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Xeo is going to be unhappy with me
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but I had to use function_traits...
19:44
anyone here know javascript by any chance?
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@TonyTheLion lol
@Cat Fürstenberg/Havel
Battery dying. See you probably tomorrow.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had Twix bars for like 2 days straight in Nepal once. It was the only thing they sold that wasn't completely dirty at that altitude.
Xeo
Xeo
Tis cool
@ThePhD yes
You can also give them a different name inside the lambda. eg. [x = y]() {}
19:55
only in C++14
I thought it was in C++11 too
@Xeo, I know where you have taken the example of ShowBox. :3
I gave up smoking 4 days ago, now I'm back at it.. erhm.. can I get a high-five in the face?
I'm trying to quit too. Smoked only 2 cigarettes this week.
anyone?

JavaScript

Topic: Anything JavaScript, ECMAScript including Node, React, ...
really?
20:06
@Jefffrey hasn't been very helpful
in JavaScript, 1 min ago, by DemCodeLines
@BenjaminGruenbaum I request your help
that's a great way to start
20:07
You said you'll help me and then deleted it :(
in JavaScript, 43 secs ago, by DemCodeLines
Well, I urgently need help on this
that's even better
good job
I mean, I have been trying to get it done for the past 5 hours
@DemCodeLines how long do you think it'll take you to solve this yourself?
several days, based on the way it's going right now
ask the question on the JS room already
20:10
@DemCodeLines I'll do it for $150 an hour, which is very reasonable, given how it'll take you several days yourself, so unless you valuate your time at less than $5 per hour, it's a win for you.
in JavaScript, 27 secs ago, by rlemon
should be ++C. more efficient you know
:lol:
Xeo
Xeo
@Jefffrey Teehee
@rightfold We also have Ambulanz!
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:O
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20:26
Still, it’s capitalised. :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes How did you find that hellish backwater of doom? No food, no beer?
@DemCodeLines so?
@sehe so nothing
@Xeo amberlamps, FTFY
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20:30
@DemCodeLines Oh, I feel for you then. I've spent most of the day getting some gui elements to align and render properly in a Java app
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Bri… bring Amber Lamps.
Anyway, now I have sufficient bananas to last the w/e, it's time for beer. Unlike the German boondocks, the bars here are open.
dat smug face
@sehe It's a pain, especially when you design gui's in java, coming from windows forms in visual studio :|
Or coming from delicious C++ with network or console interfaces
@sehe 'console interfaces'. The cutting edge of human interaction.
I'm the cutting edge of human interaction
and by that, I mean, I cut all human interaction with the sharpest available edge
I just did C++ after doing two weeks of JS, all my code is full will std::function and lambdas :v
Xeo
Xeo
Ew std::function
I kinda wish they hadn't included that in the stdlib :(
so over(ab)used
ah, IDK what you're on about
sure, a template is superior, but it's not like using std::function is some kind of code-breaking sin.
20:41
@Xeo as a learner: what do you mean by that?
it's often just easier to use std::function
Xeo
Xeo
@DeadMG std::function seems to be the main reason of that function_traits hellspawn
@Xeo Really? Seems to me more often that they want to expose shit to script languages and want to hack around the fact that C++ lacks reflection.
I'm honestly not sure what the (core) problem with using std::function is.
What else would I use for something that might be a lambda, function pointer, functor etc?
Xeo
Xeo
Depends on what you actually want to do with it.
Do you actually need to store it / have a virtual interface? Perfect, that's what std::function is for. Use it.
20:47
Mainly, I want to provide an interface function that has a callback argument.
Xeo
Xeo
virtual interface?
Probably, yes.
Xeo
Xeo
That's fine. Can't use anything else than std::function there, really.
That's what I thought, though you made me feel like I missed something obvious :)
Just wondering, what would be an example of std::function abuse?
If you eat it.
20:51
It swore it was 21 :(
That's what they all say.
I still have irrational fears of using <functional> extensively in my code in c++ since I mainly write c++ for stuff that has to do erm... "performance" (yes, yes, I know).
eh that's bullshit
<functional> is very efficient.
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I have to use std::function here because of a shit user of sol.
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20:52
He's not a very nice user.
@DeadMG including a header doesn't affect runtime performance :P
Heads Up! We will be migrating to our secondary data center tomorrow. http://stackstatus.net/post/87327655099/data-center-failover-may-31st-2014
not directly anyway
the header model in general certainly does.
@DeadMG I know that's bullshit. Which is why I said "irrational fears"
Is this a good place to ask questions?
@Brent Stackoverflow (the main site) is pretty much always a much better place (that was created for Q&A!)
@Brent It is if you have a very interesting question.
I helped some guy with his interesting compiler question.

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