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23:02
Want to look wise? Just answer every question with "It depends".
lol
It's true though. You can't just dismiss the whole idea. And it's not about the physical memory getting "dirty" - the layman didn't claim as much, either
(I know you are wise :>)
No you don't :)
At a certain point anecdotal data becomes empirical evidence.
@sehe is the closest thing we have to a wise guy here. Along with @JerryCoffin and @sbi.
23:05
People conflating age with wisdom. That's neither flattering nor wise :)
are you schooling us?
old wise man :D
Yes, but not necessarily more than other days
I'm playing with fire here, I better go
Not sure how I would adjust that scale if I had the appropriate time travelling device.
meanwhile:
test.cpp|13 col 39 error| initializer list cannot be used on the right hand side of operator '=='
test.cpp|30 col 37 error| no matching member function for call to 'emplace'
23:07
I'm still off about when to use emplace.
@sehe source?
in C++11 only when you don't want to have an useless temporary
@DeadMG fixed already
Yeah. I see it used a lot as just a glorified push_back. The good thing is, I don't think it can hurt (unless moves hurt more than copies o.O)
23:09
like x.emplace(1, 2) instead of x.push(std::pair<int, int>(1, 2))
it basically is a glorified push_back.
@Jefffrey It's not useless: it's being used. It's just unnecessary
Didn't the compilers optimize this well enough or why was it added?
@Jefffrey cough you wanted push_back in the second
@CaptainGiraffe They could under the as-if, but if the copy-constructor is inaccessible they could not
@sehe * cough * thanks
23:10
@CaptainGiraffe It constructs in place rather than moving.
once upon a time it copied
in the dark age of C++03 to be precise
in that dark age, there was no emplace
I think I see, it is a place for invention rather than adaption with regards to moving.
No doubt you're right, but I'm unable to grasp your poetry
In that dark place a good compiler considered side effects, and never made an unnecessary copy.
23:13
does this ever happen to any of you?
Yes.
(on cppreference)
That is the result of using a custom font and an inconsistent provider.
usually resizing the window fixes that for me
-2
Q: Java Algorithm Performance

Geoff SmithI have a java program that is brute force searching a game tree trying to find the best combination of moves. I have my actual program about as tuned as I can get it and am searching over 400k nodes a second on a Intel Core i5-2520M (2.5GHz) with 8.00GB of RAM running in Eclipse on 64bit Windows ...

^^ The solution to improving algorithm performance is to throw more hardware it. :P
23:17
> What about loading/running the program in RAM? (is this even possible?)
where else
already deleted
O hey as long as we're looking for d/v material: stackoverflow.com/questions/14238866/…
I think he should try to load some of the most used pieces of the program in cache... if that's is even possible
you're kidding
23:18
no shit
Jeffery I don't understand you.
I don't understand Jeffery either
HUMOR. Do you speak it
I have it tilted righthanded. What is todays colour?
23:20
I love that colour
Fuck these morons. 'Make my shit code and crap data run faster', with no actual code or data. Fucking clueless.
3
I had more than enough data to go on
I can't wait for jalf to read that message
I may have had a few Wadworths 6X,,,,
23:23
Somewhere in the world, there was a network glitch - mass exodus
Isn't it odd that in code it is always color::blue or whatever, but in sentences I feel compelled to write it with colour. In my mind it is to differentiate it from code, not a US / British thing.
Code is just US. I recognize the same
Quick poll: Is it feasible finding the factors of 2^256 +-1 in c++?
Say as a lab exercise in a crypto course.
No clue. Depends on the algorithm and hardware
I'd say yes on a whim
@CaptainGiraffe +-1?
23:30
the factors of 2^256 are a bit trivial
2^256+1 and 2^256-1
2^n-1 are frequently prime/almost prime (they have a name... I don't recall those things)
twin primes, if + - 1 are prime
don't they base RSA on the fact that it's too hard to find the two prime factors of a number of 256bits?
2^256+-1 is quite a large number.
23:31
Jeff: Yes they do. Well not the RSA but the key exchange.
> Key sizes 1,024 to 4,096 bit typical
> A 768 bit key has been broken
so I guess 256 bit is possible
which in fact is 257 bits for 2^256+1
Who says the key is just a large prime?
@sehe I thought they had to be prime
"they"
the factors
23:36
How many such big numbers make up a single key?
One
After a few modulo e^large number.
Diffie-Hellman is the key exchange.
diffie-hellman and RSA are different
the former is not very used AFAIK
Isn't DH part of SSL?
Hello
not that I know
23:39
@Nican In my non-expert opinion. RSA's version of DH is in SSL.
paypal for example uses RSA
RSA has almost nothing to do with DH, except the idea of using a problem that is not easily solvable
Gah, I recognize these a mile away now:
@CaptainGiraffe +1
@MikeM. Ohay earthling. What brings you here :)
DH is based on the "discrete logarithm problem", RSA is based on the factoring problem
@sehe lol
@Jefffrey thanks
and with this I'm off to bed
23:44
sleep well
sehe did you really have to use a CString in your code?
Wut, where?
Damn my chat is tripping at the iphone xD
@sehe The first link?
@CaptainGiraffe Did I file that ?!
23:48
I have no idea.
Posted by Microsoft on 11/25/2013 at 2:37 PM
Hi:
Thanks for reporting the issue.
A fix for this issue has been checked into the compiler sources. The fix should show up in the future release of Visual C++.

Xiang Fan
Visual C++ Team
So hows everybody doing?
I'm doing. Should be sleeping
Ye i know that feeling xD it's 1:51 am and I need to wake up at 4:45 xD
@MikeM. Yes
You aswell same times?
Mhm
Well ye seems logical if we are in the same country xD
23:54
Oh nee. Niet nog meer Nederlanders!
Bergen Op Zoom, no less. My mom lives there. I lived there
You should talk to @rightfold once
Why?
He lives closer by - and he works in Roosendaal (goes by bike - I think it would be as quick for him to go to BoZ)
TIL Roosendaal is a place
23:56
Mhm well... I am going to school in roosendaal its zoomvliet -> ict
@Borgleader Has been for quite a while. As is Rozendaal, AFAIK
Tullepetoane stad
@tonroosendaal
Chairman Blender Foundation, producer Blender Institute, developer.
3.7k tweets, 7.6k followers, following 117 users
Ut krabbengat jonguh
Quite a number of Americans with that name, yes
@MikeM. :)
@sehe o.O He's not american
afaik
23:58
Well, regardless
XD
I feel tooo young to be here xD
How young is young. Checking
16 xd

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