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Interestingly, in the linked page, the "click here to leave quickly" link seems inaccessible on iPad, obscured by social media buttons...about the worst ux decision I've seen in recent history :/ — David Thomas 12 hours ago
ahahaha
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Well.
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If you click it, you do exit the current page. :)
there I did the search for you ...
@rightfold Lumia?
@rightfold I considered getting a 1520 when I upgrade in 3 months.
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@SuhosinPony C3.
12:11
@rightfold Haven't heard of o.o *googles*
I have a Blackberry Z30 at the moment
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I charge the thing like
@telkitty.exe SC is in Ghent, acording to profile, 50km from Brussels. It seems very expensive - £96.25 one-way Brussels->Berlin. I paid 109.98 GBP for round-trip by air from my local airport, ~20 min from home.
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once every four weeks.
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@MartinJames 96.25 pounds?
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12:13
That's like going from my place to Amsterdam and back twice.
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Nah, that'd be more than 96.25 pounds.
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I paid 77eur for the roundtrip
@rightfold According to telkitty search, yes.
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Public transport is ridiculously expensive in NL if you're not a student.
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12:14
that's including 9eur for reservations (which is getting ridiculous, in comparision to the 2.5eur / direction it was before)
@rightfold Use a bicycle :)
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Ja man.
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Lekker naar Amsterdam op de fiets.
hahaha, I live in amsterdam :)
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12:16
Six hours by bike. :V
@MartinJames well traveling around 5pm on a Friday afternoon tends to be quite expensive
Europe transport is insane. It's cheaper for me to get to Berlin from UK than it is from Bel... oops.. nearly mentioned it again.
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Belgion.
dude
the Belgium jokes are like, beyond old.
@rightfold well fortunately, you're not a student hehe
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12:19
I just cycle half an hour to work.
@MartinJames yes he's the fresh Prince of it
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Even if I had to cycle six hours to work, it would still be better than going to school through any way of transport, because I'd go to school.
only takes 24 hours
@rightfold exactly
12:20
@telkitty.exe Yeah, could be that. To get my price, I take off at 07:10hrs on the Friday :((
well, I have done the 35 pound return coach trip from London to Brussel, but it was quite a while ago ...
it could not be any worse than that
Just between you & me, kz ... and of course everyone else on the internet
The cheapest skating trip I have done was my trip from London to Paris ...
overnight coach over and the next night coach back
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my train is after work, which was actually cheaper than in the morning or during work
train back is at 9am or so, though
I will have to get up at, like 05:00 to get ready. No beer on the Thursday:(
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or stay awake till 5am
12:35
@Xeo Actually, that could be a plan - I could go to the Vernon Arms Thursday lunch. I would then sleep till, say, 00:00 and be wide-awake and ready to go at five.
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or sleep during the flight?
or how long is that?
not long
@Xeo Not long enough. Also, Ryanair, so they keep waking you up to sell you things.
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's left there by Hegel, then?
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@MartinJames pay them to let you sleep!
12:38
then there is no point taking Ryanair, is there?
07:10hrs - 10:05hrs, but an hour off for time-zones.
@sehe I know what nullptr is. As marked in the description, my compiler doesn't support it. — hellfire769 50 mins ago
^ oh well. Some people really excel at missing points.
@telkitty.exe Yes - price, availabilty, convenience.
^^ I'm pretty sure that badly designed class from his question (or should I say Class) is his own
@telkitty.exe You don't actually buy any stuff, but you get woken up by the stupid announcements and cabin staff trying to make you buy overpriced coffee, snacks and scratchcards.
12:43
I don't like flight ride full stop, you can't sleep properly even in the business class (no comment about 1st class because I have never been there).
I used to love travelling until I got a job that made me travel all the times
blowrning
@telkitty.exe I can't sleep on planes unless REALLY tired or drunk. If I get drunk, they might refuse boarding, so, usually I don't sleep;(
posted on March 26, 2014

Let's explore the implications of C++'s intent to act as an extension to C.

That's why there is the business lounge and free rides for the frequent flyer - to compensate for the pain and suffering of having to do so
BSD's sh is shit
Coincidentally
12:48
@telkitty.exe I can put up with the couple of hours to Berlin. I'll read something and play heavy metal on my phone to try to drown out the endless attempts to get me to part with cash.
@MartinJames One or two drinks at the start of the flight does wonders, but the flight has to be longer than 3 hours so you can sober up, so buy whiskey at airport and have a good time? :p
urgh my guts
Ok, no more trolling :p
@telkitty.exe Maybe I'll have a large vodka, but I don't want to be refused boarding, so carefull...
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@DeadMG cut em out
oh wait, that was already proposed by your doctor
12:52
only because he's got nothing better to suggest, rather than because he thinks it's a good chance of success
I have got drunk on the plane before ... but that was not long after I turned 18
If in doubt, cut it out.
I asked for a glass of whiskey on the plane, but the plane ride was only 3 hours
@ScarletAmaranth I'm not sure how compelling this is. He survived that?! And nobody thought to make sure, when they had the opportunity right in front of them, that <spoiler bad guy name here> is actually responsible for all the deaths? They're assuming the trouble is over but they have no idea whatsoever.
and I reckon the show will gloss over that
How come Telkitty is kinda normal now?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I agree, it looked as though he was shot to lungs / heart with a pistol AFTER being hit by a sodding shotgun; I thought he's surely bitten the dust...
12:55
@telkitty.exe Yeah. I think I'll probably just stay off the booze during the trip. If my last trip to Berlin is any guide, I should not pre-load:)
I'm so tempted to forward this tweet to these two people.
@ScarletAmaranth I was expecting at least a second flak jacket and maybe some fake blood pouches, though that would have been a trick too far. So for him to come back from it...
@Jefffrey If you don't explain, that's way over my head
Also I never really cared about <spoiler bad guy name here>, so for him to be the big bad for an arc then suddenly disappear...
12:57
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I also immediately knew that he didn't just "forget his gun on the ground"... they could have at least made an attempt to make it look less obvious :)
@sehe Wordpress developers. And Wordpress is full of functions named things like the_content.
@sehe It's wordpress that has functions like "the_whatever"
Worse, they print to STDOUT rather than returning strings grrrrr
the_factorial
the_devil_inside
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah.
12:58
rofl, I was sitting on an AOP course and the guy made a function getFact() that sure as fuck reads getFucked()
@ScarletAmaranth you should get your eyes checked
@Jefffrey It's about speech- depends on how exactly you pronounce "Fact" but it could sure sound like "Fucked" in some accents.
@Jefffrey also when you hear getFact() you just think getFucked(), I was taken aback for a moment before I realized (after he pronounced it)
it "sounds" then
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;)
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Fuck you Thundershit.
> TIL there is an underwater island...
lol?
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That is like saying there is a bicycle with four wheels.
future<Island>
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13:12
hah
what is a good name for a typeclass (or well, a class template) that represents types that can be interpreted as an image (regardless of whether it's an in-memory blob of color data or something bound to a file)... is a name that sounds like a Java interface (ImageAble) a good idea?
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How about just Image?
mmm, that doesn't sound like a type-constructor sort of thing to me
but neither vector
: o
@ScarletAmaranth not sure what you mean exactly? you want class tags? or just a templated class for images?
@thecoshman I just want a name for a class template that will represent a family of types that can be represented as an image
or an 'interface' that other classes can implement to offer 'image like' functionality?
template <typename T> class NAME { }
although I'm writing Haskell atm so it's
class NAME args where ...
@ScarletAmaranth template<typename Format> Class Image { ... }
@ScarletAmaranth Image
@R.MartinhoFernandes wtf is that
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13:15
slice of an underwater island
an underwater island
right
mmm, Image it is, thanks vOv
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@ScarletAmaranth Don't ask it as if it is C++.
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Different languages have different naming conventions.
13:19
but they represent the same thing, give or take
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Doesn't matter.
it should be intuitive regardless of language
although xs in C++ wouldn't make much sense
so you might be on to something here
Not quite. Type classes are more like concepts. Class templates are like type constructors.
yup, pretty much
type classes are "something more"
Well, you messed up initially ("what is a good name for a typeclass (or well, a class template) ")
13:20
but every type class is a type constructor
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I'd just call it Image.
@ScarletAmaranth No?
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@ScarletAmaranth no?
@ScarletAmaranth No
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@ScarletAmaranth No.
13:20
why not?! what?
You suck
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Show String is not a type.
Type constructors are type constructors
hold on, as soon as you have at least one argument, then it transforms Class a to Class SomeT
how is that not...
Uh no
Why do you think it transforms anything into anything
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13:22
If Show were a type ctor, you could do foo :: Show String -> String.
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Which makes no sense.
Who wants to see your string anyway?
well, template <typename T> class A { }; gives you A<T>
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so does data A t = ...
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@ScarletAmaranth OOP classes are not type classes.
13:23
@rightfold no kidding
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type classes give you Class T => ..., they can only be used as constraints
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@ScarletAmaranth So don't compare them. vOv
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They are more like data and a bunch of functions.
type classes are pretty much like concepts, they give you an "interface" to a type
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think of typeclasses as ... requires Class<T>
13:24
Type classes are constraints
ah, right, now I see what nonsense I said
But really I don't know where you think 'transforming' anything comes into play
I suck, vOv
nono
I no longer do
I'm obviously an idiot
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You create data types and data type constructors with data or newtype.
yeah, I've gone bonkers
I don't even know why I said that, I need a lobotomy
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13:26
Because you are obviously an idiot.
lobotomy might help
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You need a fork.
in an eye
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we got it, just move on
for once I have nothing on my todo list ...
feels so ... different
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13:27
@telkitty.exe put "put something on my todo list" on your todo list.
Trephination > lobotomy.
@Jefffrey get facked
I had a moment of complete insanity (that has been lasting for 20 years)
I am about to go to bed in like 30-60 minutes ... then tomorrow I got a full day
so basically I have nothing to do for an hour
isn't this lovely?
@Jefffrey How about this underwater river in Mexico?
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13:31
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lemme guess.
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Water with and without salt.
no
the water is already salty
have another guess
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magic
13:33
Imagine you are having sex in the hotel, then a group of scuba diver swim by
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ACID.
Inter-fruit communication:
'connectToPears(minPort, maxPort, serverSocket);'
WTF I was search for underwater river in google images, but found this instead
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There's a really big one in the Black Sea.
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@MartinJames So many grapes.
13:38
@rightfold It's running on a Blackberry.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit er.. heavy water
:lol no
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I thought BlackBerry was dead.
heavy water is all throughout the sea and relatively uniformly distributed, it's not something where it runs in rivers
| Section2 = | Section3 = | Section4 = | Section5 = | Section6 = }} Hydrogen sulfide (British English: hydrogen sulphide, but this spelling is not recommended by the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry nor the Royal Society of Chemistry) is the chemical compound with the formula . It is a colorless gas with the characteristic foul odor of rotten eggs; it is heavier than air, very poisonous, corrosive, flammable and explosive. Hydrogen sulfide often results from the bacterial breakdown of organic matter in the absence of oxygen, such as in swamps and sewers; this proces...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nasty stuff
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh. In the Black Sea it's a gravity current or something.
> Underneath the water of Cenote Angelita is another flowing body of water. The river is full of hydrogen sulfate, which is much heavier than normal salt water. When it sinks to the bottom, it forms a flow of its own.
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8 mins ago, by rightfold
ACID.
maybe there's another hidden river inside it
13:42
@rightfold It's obviously not dissolved.
This might be disgusting ... I really should not say it ... but you see, there is currently nothng on my todo list and I feel weird, so I will just say it out aloud! ... It fancies me (although it does not happen in reality), after you used the bathroom, the things get pumped out into the ocean, the bathroom window is transparent and you can see small fishes nibble on your shit ~_~
> Dissolved in water, hydrogen sulfide is known as hydrosulfuric acid or sulfhydric acid, a weak acid.
without solution, though...
still on the underwater river issue?
imagine you have a dissection of water body like this:
\_  _/
  \/
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit very cool
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@telkitty.exe looks like a goat.
13:51
more like a bull, but that's not quite the point
for some reasons, fresh or sea water fills the upper part, but there is an entrance of muddy water to the V shaped part below
then you will have a underground river
mud does not dissolve in the water, it suspends in the water but they are of higher density
Telkitty looks like a goat?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit go home earth, you're drunk
moo!
an influx of more muddy water will keep the mud up, but it will neither dissolve nor floating on the top
thus underwater river ...
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I have a good idea.
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14:01
White phosphorus in a recycle bin.
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Together with some fireworks.
@rightfold That's a good idea? Do you have any examples of bad ideas?
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Using C++.
I was told by multiple people ... that sometimes ... I should just shut up ~_~
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but I don't wanna shut up :'(
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Shout extra loud at them then?
Various lists of the Wonders of the World have been compiled from antiquity to the present day, to catalogue the world's most spectacular natural wonders and manmade structures. The Seven Wonders of the Ancient World is the first known list of the most remarkable creations of classical antiquity; it was based on guidebooks popular among Hellenic sightseers and only includes works located around the Mediterranean rim. The number seven was chosen because the Greeks believed it represented perfection and plenty, and because it was the number of the five planets known anciently, plus the s...
As you scroll down, look at the thumbnail photos along the right hand side of the article. Dat last one.
14:25
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm just going to start longing, best to not tempt myself
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I need Y combinator in LESS but I don't think it supports lambdas at all.
@telkitty.exe I just had to star both those posts. I could not resist.
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This is coool.
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func f(x interface{I; J}) { ... }
@thecoshman The article doesn't have that sort of effect, though you'd expect it to
most of it is stupid
the bottom is just amusing
it's like "hey look at this communications tower in some US city, it's a wonder of the world"
14:36
@LightnessRacesinOrbit in the context of engineering
the list was made by civil engineers
there are a bunch of lists/categories
I'm aware
just responding to @thecoshman's apparent expectations of luscious green gardens and tropical paradises
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I had a Windows app that ran continuously for over three years - does that count? The W2K PC was not connected to the net and so could not get Windows updates and reset every patch-Tuesday.
whenever I see "7 wonders of the world" I always imagine the ones in "List from other areas" on that wiki article
@MartinJames yes
eras, presumably
I don't though
classical times ftw
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you've already set me up with that up set :S
14:51
'My dream after collage is to work with a great team' - sounds kinda mixed up to me:)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22664553/c-vs-c-vs-c-sharp-vs-java
Also Vlad...
hiya
@AlexM. G'day sport!
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EXAMS TODAY
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SO EXCITD
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PUT ME IN, COACH, I"M READY TO FAIL!
15:00
No reason.
Just a large shrimp.
@EtiennedeMartel clearly a joyous fish
Looks more like Zoidberg.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I saw the empty ruins of the place where the Statue of Zeus was held. A bit depressing.
Fucking barbarians.
Or fire.
Or whatever the fuck it was.
Meh - Vlad deleted his 'answer' before it got its full complement of downvotes:(
@R.MartinhoFernandes barbarian fire :O
@MartinJames clever girl...
15:17
amazing revision summary
uri = new Uri("http://foo/bar/");
uri = new Uri(uri, uriSource);
fuck my brain is concrete
@EtiennedeMartel erm... yes?
@thecoshman Found in some of Microsoft's code.
@EtiennedeMartel oh right
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15:24
@EtiennedeMartel brilliant
What's the problem?
'We're sorry, but something went wrong' - foo/bar in FF
Seems perfectly fine.
On an airport bus. Goodbye Berlin!
Dammit, his name doesn't show here.
He has an invisible name?
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Was he 'Drunk Charlie Stross' at one point?
15:28
Also, dammit, it would have been nice to get some of my books signed.
Or not, now that I think of it :S
DAMMIT
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Your logic circuits seem conflicted
It's a lose-lose proposition. I'm sad :(
I should have never realised this :'(
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ah, conflicting between 'getting a book signed' and 'ruining the book'?
Yeah. On one hand, I would like to make my copy of Accelerando special, but on the other hand I can't bear the thought of someone opening it and scribbling on it.
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Get another Accelerando book!
15:36
How does that help?
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dunno, I thought you might be less conflicted if you have a perfect copy and a signed one
I don't see how author's signature is anywhere near the territory of ruining a book with scribbling :v
@Xeo In the end I'm still left with a bad one.
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s/bad/special/, per your words
It hardly decreases the value
15:39
I mean, if I get a second copy, it won't make me any more willing to mess with either.
> My dream after collage is to work with a great team on a app software for desktop and mobile devices so I would want to know what lang to learn that is more needed?
English
I find a/an misuse particularly jarring.
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it breaks the reading flow
I autocorrect without really noticing.
15:44
Wonderful trait, that
Don't unwittingly autocorrect. It kills kittens. And relations. There's whole sites about it
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a art.
It's not a deer.
How would the author's signature ruin the book?
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'scribbling'
so?
15:47
Robot likes books
It's not just any scribbling
@CatPlusPlus Sometimes I think he likes the book more than what's written in it.
you can't use lambdas in C++14 constexpr :(

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