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sbi
2:00 PM
@KerrekSB "can't find the server at math.albany.edu%3a8800."
 
@sbi How odd, are you in Iran?
 
@sbi That's a colon. What is strange is that the link looks perfectly legit from the status bar.
 
That : appears to be not a :.
 
I think it's a firefox bug maybe ?
 
sbi
@KerrekSB <looks_through_the_window/> Not that I knew of.
 
2:01 PM
@sbi Being born after the war != being born after massive social stigma surrounding discussion of Nazis
Germany still banned Wolfenstein 3D in the 1990s, IIRC, because it depicted Nazis
 
Wow, why are we talking about Nazis?
 
@CatPlusPlus It is, look at the ASCII codes.
 
sbi
@kbok Mhmm. I thought I had replaced %3a with a colon and it failed, too, but now that I tried it again it worked, so I must have failed.
 
Hm, try this maybe
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger It's all nicely referenced. Read your way upwards.
 
2:03 PM
I don't believe this. I completely forgot my password.
 
Google Cache -- embarrassing ex girlfriends since 1999
 
so as far as I understand it, it actually is very different recently
 
@sbi No, I think it's a browser fail. You use FF4 right ?
 
Aug 30 at 15:59, by sbi
@kbok Works here, with FF6.
 
FF6 ? Did I have hibernated or something ?
 
sbi
2:04 PM
@kbok More likely napped. They are handing out new versions every few days now.
 
Oh, I have FF6 as well. This is disturbing.
@sbi I see. The chrome thing, right.
 
@sbi oh....
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yep. That's a notable limit on free speech in Germany. You can't praise the nazis. And that's my point, bringing up nazism in Germany (or towards Germans) is quite different than doing the same to some other country/human.
 
@sbi Mein Kampf cannot be published, right?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes You truly deserve the "R" in front of your name, you know.
 
2:06 PM
well, I guess that you would know better than me, but it was my understanding that it was considerably relaxed recently
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Forbidden.
@KerrekSB I don't get this.
 
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I don't believe this. I completely forgot my password.
Still think so?
 
@sbi Well, the cache often contains things that you may not want remembered. Imagine the possibilities...
 
Okay, can someone explain to me why I'm reading the comp.text.sgml FAQ ?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I thought it was a reply to that. But what does this have to do with google cache?
 
2:07 PM
in any case, my original point still stands- being German is a specific thing when you're discussing Nazis. A person's age is non-specific- it's like skin colour or gender.
 
sbi
@KerrekSB Ah, Ok.
 
@kbok Because someone linked it.
 
sbi
@kbok I can't. I looked at the thing, shuddered remembering ASCII discussions, and closed the page again.
 
@kbok It was a silly roundabout pun about Nazis. There's this "Goodwin's Law" pertaining to Nazis on the internet. I thought I'd subvert that with the aptly named "Goldfarb's Law", which pertains to line endings.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That was the point . Why did someone link that ?
 
2:08 PM
lawl
 
That said, the SGML "Not the FAQ" is hilarious.
I've been citing "use sgml2pdf" regularly ever since I read that.
 
so what's new fellow gravatars?
 
sbi
@DeadMG You're point was that what a person is has no impact on their ideas and actions. My point was that it does. I consider that proven now. So please retreat to some other point.
@kbok To make you read it?
 
@kbok I don't effin' know. Ask the dude.
 
I could be talking to a bunch of bots for all that matters.
 
sbi
2:11 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Why ask Jeff Lebowski?
@TonyTheTiger You don't need a bunch of bots to talk to. You got us.
 
Ahah! I remembered it! Phew.
 
@sbi I see what you did there.
 
@TonyTheTiger I'm thinking about changing mine.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel That's not me! I never wore sun glasses!
 
Ghosts are so 2010.
 
2:12 PM
@sbi ah, sure, I'm just not sure What to talk about today
 
I thought vampires were 2010.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Werewolves also.
 
ohhhh werewolves
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger You could talk about sex for a change. :b
 
2:13 PM
Whatever you were thinking, no.
 
ugh, don't feel like talking about sex
 
Oh dear.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Who is the "you" you do not refer to?
 
I get flagged for it anyways
 
2:13 PM
@sbi Tony, of course.
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Oh boy! Are you sick?!
 
@sbi not that I know of... but you never know...
 
@TonyTheTiger That’s because you didn’t self-censor. Talking about “s@x” should be fine.
 
@KonradRudolph hahah lulz
 
s@x, lol
 
2:15 PM
@KonradRudolph Saxophones?
 
I was wondering what magic makes a compiler able to "know" that what you bind to and rvalue reference is really an rvalue? I mean how does it make the distinction?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Whatever tickles your fancy.
 
or am I asking too difficult questions
 
@KonradRudolph Strange to see the word "tickle" in a discussion about s∂x.
(This self-censorship thing is getting out of hand)
 
2:16 PM
@TonyTheTiger The compiler must know whether any expression is an lvalue or rvalue, just like it must know it's type and etc- and it's relatively trivially deduced from the expression anyway.
 
@TonyTheTiger lvalue is on the left, rvalue is on the right
 
@TonyTheTiger If it has no identity, it's an rvalue.
 
self-c3nsorship
 
@TonyTheTiger Magic.
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger As I said: I consider it very important that we do not let the censors rule our fun here. If we want to talk about sex, then please let's just do it. Fuck the meta police!
 
2:16 PM
oh I see, so maybe I missed the point of the type system then?
 
@sbi well except that Tony did get banned after two 10K+ users agreed to the flags set by "that teenager"
 
so this is ok? (NSFW)
 
Damn.
Tony: making the C++ chat NSFW since FOREVER.
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Is she green-screened on there?
that just doesn't look quite right
 
that looks shopped!
 
2:18 PM
@TonyTheTiger We're just beginning to uncover the "shadow type system", which is scheming to usurp the entire language.
 
@CodeMonkey if I get banned once I more, perhaps I shan't return to this place... because
 
@TonyTheTiger Dude, NSFW!
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey As I've said in my answer on meta, that's mainly due to a flaw in the flagging system.
 
@KonradRudolph NSFW
 
(I’ve got a female coworker sitting next to me …)
 
2:19 PM
@KonradRudolph I"ve tagged it now :P
 
@KonradRudolph She gets offended by pictures of other females?
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger What does a photoshopped, dyed girl in a bikini have to do with sex?
 
hope that helps
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Should I ask her? ;-)
 
@sbi I donno, I was just posting something random :P
 
2:19 PM
@KonradRudolph Yeah, that would be best.
 
@KonradRudolph Sure, go ahead.
 
@sbi I don't believe you can't see the connection.
 
at least it gives something to talk about
 
"Girl in reduced clothes" - "sex" Hmm. No idea.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Obviously, he doesn't find her attractive. Nor do I.
 
2:20 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I"m gonna post that as my fb status :)
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: A high probability of nuts, with a slight chance of sex. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
@DeadMG lulz :P
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph So? I mean, ask her to get out her Brigitte (a popular German woman's magazine) and you will find such a picture as an ad for cosmetics at latest at the fifth page you look at. Does she object to you looking at that, too?
 
Gosh, that flag was quick.
 
well
 
2:21 PM
oh noes, flags
 
@sbi Probably not … she didn’t object to the image, either …
 
I figure that it changed a hell of a lot of meaning for changing one word.
 
sbi
Will you guys please strop this flagging nonsense. Nothing good ever came from that.
 
@sbi But again, context is everything. Scantily clad lady in make-up ad? OK. Same-said lady in C++ chat? Uh …?
 
2:22 PM
Flags again?
 
.
flag
what was flagged?
 
oh no! I've been Belgian flagged!
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Of course context matters. That's what I keep saying. Automatic filtering is stupid, because what's considered offensive depends on context, culture, and individual opinion.
 
@KonradRudolph Yeah- it's more appropriate here than in the make-up ad.
 
2:23 PM
@DeadMG better than belgian waffled
 
@CodeMonkey waffles are great
keeps me waffling
 
sbi
@TonyTheTiger Wow, yours is the biggest.
(Flag!)
 
@sbi out do all the other flags :)
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey I'd rather be waffled thatn flagged.
 
@sbi would you do the truffle shuffle?
 
2:24 PM
Okay, I finished reading that FAQ. Now, hot babes and Belgian flags. This room is weird.
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oh just noticed that eh @kbok?
 
sbi
@CodeMonkey Mebbe I could answer that if I knew what it is?
 
also
 
I wrote a custom parser! and it works! I'm so awesome
a pity it can only parse using statements
 
2:25 PM
lol
 
oh lol
so you gonna create a using language?
 
@DeadMG C++11 using?
 
sbi
@kbok You mean this room sent you to read an old Usenet group FAQ and you just went and read it?! What's wrong with the youth today...
 
@KonradRudolph No, why would I want to parse C++11?
 
2:26 PM
no idea whatsoever
 
me neither
terrible language
 
But then, why would you want to write a custom parser for using statements?
 
sbi
@DeadMG Because then you'd belong to a club of maybe a dozen developers in this world who are smart enough to write a C++11 parser?
 
@sbi I"m not part of that club, damn :(
@CodeMonkey wtf?
 
Why would you want to?
 
sbi
2:28 PM
Well, maybe "smart" really out to be "masochistic", really. You have to be a masochist in order to set out to write a C++ parser.
 
yeah, but I could instead write something more useful and easier to write
 
Also, what's wrong with your spark key?
 
@TonyTheTiger never seen the goonies?
 
I think it's only a certain kind of smart who write a C++11 parser
the dumb kind of smart
 
probably, but some people perhaps enjoy the masochism
 
2:28 PM
Bragging rights too.
 
That "dozen" thing always surprised me. Englisch people have no word for a group of ten items except "decimal dozen". This is ... puzzling.
 
@DeadMG hmm, dumb and smart at the same time, interesting concept
 
What's wrong with "ten things"?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I was just about to say that
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Not a noun.
 
2:29 PM
@CodeMonkey I know. I'm branching out my memory to the future.
 
@TonyTheTiger As much a an iPhone is a dumb smartphone.
 
@KerrekSB "I'm pretty sure that a thus inlined constructor will not actually result in any machine code at all." What inlining has to do with producing machine code or not ? stackoverflow.com/questions/7349257/default-constructor-in-c
 
@RMartinhoFernandes oh noes, he's got prediction algorithms in place that will ruin the fun of this room :P
 
@kbok tenfold
 
@kbok "dectet"
 
2:30 PM
@CodeMonkey I think that's a multiplier.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes thesaurus says "having ten of something"
@kbok decade, decagon, decapod, decemvir, decemvirate, decennary, decennium
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes There's more than ten?
 
you'd have to be pretty smart to write a C++11 parser
and pretty dumb to want to
 
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Q: C++ - How to print (using cout) the way a number is stored in memory?

Jesse EmondI'm following a college course about operating systems and we're learning how to convert from binary to hexadecimal, decimal to hexadecimal, etc. and today we just learned how signed/unsigned numbers are stored in memory using the two's complement (~number + 1). We have a couple of exercices to ...

huh?
 
Seems perfectly legitimate.
There's a sound explanation for even wanting to do this kind of thing, which is rare.
 
2:33 PM
needs to use bitwise operators
 
How do you show how it's stored in memory? With a microscope.
 
@Potatoswatter lol yea
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Learning how endianness will fuck you up :) ?
 
@MrAnubis That's not for the binary numeral system.
That's to open files in binary mode, as opposed to text mode.
 
2:34 PM
grins
 
Not to mention the setbase method which ignores the argument if it is not 8, 10, or 16
because, you know, it's OK to use 3 bits to represent 3 values, but not 4 bits to represent 16…
 
good day - first time in chat - do you think the question quoted above is just looking for a solution?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I am completely overflowed by c++ , doing idiotic things all time
 
@CodeJockey Welcome.
 
Hello there!
FYI, this room is not just about C++! You must know that, to be here
 
2:43 PM
ah - I'll keep that in mind :D
 
but i loved one solution most : bitset one )
 
Pop silly quiz: what's the most compact representation of binary?
 
With pen and paper?
 
Sorry, I can't verify the correctness of your answers, I have no idea what a compact representation of binary is.
 
lol
 
2:46 PM
wouldn't a nibble be a compact representation too
 
No I was probing the waters to see if this was some trick question or something.
 
sbi
@CodeJockey Welcome. Please read our newbie gints, linked to from the right-hand panel.
 
lol
 
guess it's time for Robert Harvey to swoop in and clean up those comments
 
2:47 PM
Ouch.
@CodeMonkey Which comments?
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Oops. You know, I meant to fix that, but then I thought: If he's offended, then this isn't the right room for him. :)
 
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A: C++ - How to print (using cout) the way a number is stored in memory?

KevinIs this what you're looking for? std::cout << std::hex << val << std::endl;

 
Oh those.
Those are totally relevant.
If I can't explain my downvotes any longer, WTF?
 
In all fairness, the answer does provide the hexadecimal value of what is in memory, just not in binary
 
is it ok to cast away constness of a object? (in good coding terms)
 
2:52 PM
Does it?
 
sbi
I bet it was him who downvoted my answer.
 
@MrAnubis It's nasty. And you can't cheat.
 
@sbi, That driving direction metaphor again ? :)
 
@MrAnubis It can be, but you need a pretty damn good reason to do it.
 
sbi
@kbok I like that metaphor. (@RMartinhoFernandes, Did I use this here before?)
 
2:53 PM
@MrAnubis if you're sure that the object originally wasn't declared const
 
@sbi This is what made Tomalak ragequit.
 
Jun 29 at 14:09, by sbi
@TomalakGeretkal You know, when everyone appears to be driving the wrong way, it's time to check your own direction.
 
@TonyTheTiger 0_o
 
@sbi You replied it directly to me, by mistake.
 
Tomalak left?
 
sbi
2:54 PM
@MrAnubis Some instances of doing that will not lead to UB. None will lead to good code.
@kbok Oh, did it? I didn't know it was me.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes OMG, how do you do that ?
 
I'm Brutha, they said.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Thanks for finding that. (Can we please come up with a simpler syntax to invoke our search robot? It takes so long to type those requests.)
 
2:55 PM
Did Brutha use a clever search, or did he remember the individual dates of each event? Memory is fuzzy here.
 
No, I don't remember exact dates.
 
@kbok why so?
 
sbi
@LucDanton "What's the first thing you remember?" "There was a light, and then someone slapped me."
 
@sbi Maybe he searched that, too.
 
sbi
@LucDanton Brutha? He wasn't a searcher. He was a rememberall.
 
2:57 PM
The real Brutha (well, the real fictional Brutha) just remembered every freaking thing. No exceptions.
I love using opposite adjectives on the same noun simultaneously.
 
what's a fictition?
 
@sbi Is rememberall a calque?
 
sbi
@LucDanton I think it's the name of a device in the HP universe. (@RMartinhoFernandes?)
I might be spelling it wrong, though.
 
@DeadMG An odd neologism created in an Oscar acceptance speech by Michael Moore. Backformation from "fictitious".
 
I recall it as 'remembrall'.
 

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