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00:06
@Rapptz I don't wannaaaa. u.u
@Borgleader having read the article, I don't think I like it that much. Anyways, sincerity matters. I guess she tried to nail that one
yeah, the latter points weren't that good as the first ones
@ScottW hi
Anyone interested in this new CppCat static analysis tool for VS? cppcat.com/#main
oh baby, I'm so proud of you
<3
00:13
@sehe Not if I can get Clang's static analyzer any time soon.
^ O hello Mr. Derp, at 26:15 "You're on camera!"
For best context start around here: 25:52
@sehe When they open with C/C++, I close the tab with "lol".
Meh. Your loss.
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OOh, a custom tailored tool for VS
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I like it
00:17
@DeadMG You know, static analysis tools make so much sense in C++ because of our unfortunate heritage from C
@ThePhD That's the part that does my head in. I mean. WHY
You know, rand() % gene_length is by definition integral. You can't floor it any more. — sehe 11 secs ago
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@sehe Well, if it can catch my derps before I compile or run it, I can't really see that as a bad thing?
@ThePhD Because you don't want to use VS
00:21
@sehe All I'm saying is, all of the examples are really C errors. It's just that a couple of them happened to be written in a class (as in, C with Classes style).
there's no suggestion of any C++ errors like, I dunno, Standard container iterator invalidation, or something like that.
I haven't looked that far. Yeah, that would be disappointing
oh, except virtual dtor.
Gosh. That's frequently meh. Unless it actually detects deletion through base class
and the Personal price seems a bit WTF
$250?
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LOL
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00:25
That fucking price
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Buahahahaha.
i love drums in latino music!!1
user406009
"This video is not available in your country."
user406009
Curses.
00:28
DAMN
I was having a thought, then I clicked on the link, and now I forgot the thought.
@Lalaland the song is From Within by Michel Camilo
oh wait never mind I remember.
but different versions may exist, I meant the one with Horacio Hernandez on drums, studio version
Xeo
Xeo
This sounds nice. The beginning / refrain, anyways.
Hey everybody go to this question and downvote an obviously troll answer:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20928466/browser-freezing-when-updating-backbone-model
00:34
I upvoted it
fucking linkdumpers
Yes but the only answer is obviously a troll answer
I can't hear you over all the links you're dumping
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Xeo
Xeo
wtf
also
since the answer has zero upvotes, I clearly did not actually upvote it.
I realize that
but still
00:41
zero upvote could be the net of 1 upvote 1 downvote ... just saying ...
rethink that :|
in particular the difference between "score" and "upvote count"
I didn't actually point that out. It might be entirely correct. I hope you discerned that I tried in my answer to show you how you could arrive at this line from the valgrind diagnostic. That's the useful part. — sehe 2 mins ago
fuck, I didn't shower since thursday. I'm unpleasant even to myself ;0
started from the bottom now we here
00:45
"now we here"?
~
keep clam
I'm working on a detailed paper on constexpr, it's far from finished but if anyone wanna take a look at what has come so far (and give some input on the contents) it's available here (draft of constexpr_paper.txt).
@Domecraft enjoy the gif while it lasts (if mods are asleep it you'll be able to enjoy it for quite some time)
1 message moved to bin
00:55
dangit
@DeadMG have you worked on Wide recently?
no not really
@Mysticial fun fact, mini-pi compiles on Raspberry pi, but only gcc, with clang i get an error in chrono xD
00:58
lol
I'll give you the god awful benchmark in a few minutes :P
haha
oh you so funny
truth is
I got a lot of features I want to implement, and a lot of design that needs to be done
plus the whole "terrible sickness" thing.
>>>from __future__ import braces
  File "<stdin>", line 1
SyntaxError: not a chance
>>>
user1804599
Cool.
user1804599
01:11
I used std::front_inserter.
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@refp who's your audience? (iow, why are you writing this)
also, is this text export of something latex-y or do you write it like that?
@sehe I have no idea, but it seems to be a lot of confusion regarding constexpr so I thought I'd write something up
I do write it like that, but will be able to convert it to html/pdf with ease when I'm finished
You know, if no-one will find it/read it there's not much use
@rightfold That sounds like it can be taken out of context.
@refp interesting format. Reminds me of vim help. Or RFC documents. Probably both
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01:14
@Mysticial There is no context anyway. vOv
@rightfold std::final_frontier and std::butt_plug
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I am implementing Styx array and it has variadic unshift method. :v
@sehe it's written in vim, I grew up with RFCs and.. :help, so maybe I've been influenced by those
It looks really neat. I bet you have seen the back of :help fo-table and use par?
@sehe I haven't actually, but I will check it out now (or sometime between now and later)
thanks
@sehe any thoughts on the contents?
01:20
@StackedCrooked LH - plot thickens!
@sehe as in 5.1, is it neccessary to say what the standard is saying or should I only leave in the "summary" (which has lines starting with >, towards the end of that section)
@sehe same thing with 5.1.1 (which might be an even better example)
I'm amused by how the brain can make random connections to things he feels good about
user1804599
Meh.
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Boost.Preprocessor y u no signed integers.
for example, to justify that the person you are (potentially) attracted to, is in fact attracted to you as well, even if it's objectively not the case
Ell
Ell
01:26
@DeadMG are the doctors really not wanting to help? :/ what do you do during the day? Did your emergency call change anything?
I stopped counting how many people asked him that xD
was the last number you counted 2987636?
just checking
@Jefffrey Or even have no particular feelings about, such as people's tendency to look at stars with relatively random arrangements, and imagine they form everything from simple lines to pictures of bears, goats, people, etc.
user1804599
Ugh.
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I just got the std::front_inserter joke I didn’t intend.
01:39
@JerryCoffin clouds are better for that :)
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I think the std part is funny in particular.
much more variety
@rightfold enlighten me
@Jefffrey I'm gonna prove there's afterlife and you're now in hell. Here's your Java compiler.
eheh
Care for more proof?
01:41
nope, I think I'm fine
Good call.
@rightfold Took you long enough
Ell
Ell
meh
circumcision is pretty fucked up when you think about it
Out of the blue much? xD
Or is that a reference to the front_inserter stuff :P
01:48
I was awake for 22 hours, then slept for 19... wut
> religion
how the hell do you sleep for 19 hours o.O
don't ask me, I was asleep :E
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader haha yeah, I just watched a TYT video
this guy was performing a circumcision and accidentally severed
way to fuck up someones life pretty majorly for a stupid tradition
religion makes me sick
You... watch circumcision videos?! dude wtf...
01:55
@Ell This can happen to any kind of surgery.
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@Borgleader No no no :P
@Ell I think people give it far too much thought than they should. "It's so evil!" etc
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The Young Turks are these guys that talk about things :L
Those guys are pretty biased.
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@Rapptz But cmon, at least wait until it can choose itsself if it wants to have a part of itsself removed :/
01:56
@Rapptz Are there any benefits to the practice?
@Borgleader Yes.
Outside of botched operations, there aren't many downsides I could think of.
The ones commonly thrown around are all false, e.g. "Your penis becomes less sensitive"
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader Not automatically at birth
maybe later in life if there is a medical condition
@Rapptz I don't understand if this one can be false - there is less surface area now? Why wouldn't it be less sensitive? o.O
zch
zch
@Rapptz But they do matter, don't they?
@Ell the sensitive part is not the one cut away
zch
zch
You generally don't do surgery if it is not needed.
01:59
@Rapptz I figured there were probably not many downsides at least not major ones or it would have fallen out of practice (one would hope). I just didn't know if there were any upsides to begin with.
What the fuck is this thread
@Ell No.
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@Jefffrey speak for yourself :L
That isn't the argument I'm making anyway
zch
zch
Exactly because it can cause complications.
@CatPlusPlus don't worry, you have already been sterilized/castrated
01:59
That doesn't even make sense
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@zch exactly this
why perform surgery (ie - propose risk) when you can just not do the surgery - no risk
@Ell s/the sensitive/the most sensitive/, sorry
Ell
Ell
If the kid wants to be circumcised he can decide later on
The foreskin isn't sensitive to anything.
It's not even sensitive at all
oh, hey look, i was right
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02:01
@Rapptz May I ask where you're getting this info from?
I'm gonna go have my breakfast elsewhere while you guys talk about penises :)
Ell
Ell
I recollect you being a doctor or some shiz
@Ell He works in a hospital
I'm not a doctor
but I've gotten into circumcision debates so often that I have to repeat certain things
let me sign this day on the calendar
Ell
Ell
02:01
@Borgleader I'm just dying to ask if he has a foreskin now :3 I don't want this chatroom to go from weird to weirder
@melak47 Are you gonna have some sausages?
Ell
Ell
I mean to claim the foreskin isn't sensitive at all is just false? I don't understand how you can claim that
@Borgleader not anymore :p
also...sausages for breakfast? this isn't the UK :p
s/UK/Germany/
germans really get serious about sausages in the morning
what
02:04
@Ell Look it up yourself.
Ell
Ell
I don't need to look it up :P
@Jefffrey are you thinking about these kind of Germans?
the ones I visit every year at münich
@Ell Well you should :P
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@Rapptz I'm looking it up on wikipedia now
02:06
@Ell By look it up he doesn't mean look at yours btw ;)
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@Borgleader haha
I mean it has nerve endings like any other bit of anything
OK, the weirdness... I'll come back tomorrow.
@MartinJames Come, yes...
02:08
@Jefffrey but not for breakfast...I hope :/
Come for breakfast? No thanks, not till evening..
men, my right arm really hurts
Ell
Ell
@Jefffrey oh gosh. your right arm is aching during this conversation topic. I don't want to know what you've been doing
Which arm hurts right before a heart attack?
Man
02:10
@Borgleader Back one
You guys get weirded out by some tame stuff.
@Ell since the new-year-party really
Ell
Ell
Meh, I'm not weirded out by much
But I have to act weirded out
else people are weirded out by the fact I'm not weirded out
accidentally got into a conversation about loli porn with someone not on the internet
bad idea
eh, I know the feel
It's a bad idea on the Internet too
02:11
@ThePhD I use NULL, other brushes potentially fuck up the background and prevent transparency - but since your thing is transparent for me, whatever one you were using before should be fine
I'm considered "the pedophile" now, within my friends
Good job
you dun goofed
I completed some badges on steam in the last few days... now i have like 20+ emails "Thanks you for buying/selling X"
who are all you weirdos? how did I get here?
@Borgleader I agree we should change topic
I wish there were more hours in a day
like 36
02:15
You're not forced to use 24h day
zch
zch
Do you mean day to be physically longer or hours to be a smaller unit?
physically longer
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Ell
@Jefffrey me too :L
@CatPlusPlus nobody seems to like my 42 hour day :E
@melak47 You got too close to the Lounge event-horizon.
02:18
@Mysticial here are the respberry pi results
> Computing e... Total Time = 1051.03
computing pi... Total Time = 3158.4
@Borgleader It should really compute e after pi. As we all know: Pi before e, except after C.
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@JerryCoffin Your mental processes are even weirder than mine. Star anyway:)
I would rather eat a pie than compute a pi ... but if you really want to know, currently I would like a black pepper steak mince mushroom pie
@MartinJames Jerry works in mysterious ways, you too
@Borgleader Maybe, but tomorrow I'll be sober..
@Telkitty I'm full of curry, but sounds good anyway:)
02:26
@MartinJames Edit: split second 2 late ...
Because jokes are better when explained:
@Telkitty Crossover... no, I'm totally full of beer and turbocharged chicken jalfrezi.
Ell
Ell
Mm curry
i wish I could understand jerry's joke
"Pi" before "e" makes up "Pie", but that's as far as it gets
then "C" probably refers to the language
@Jefffrey Same -.-;
02:36
I before E except after C.
"I before E, except after C" is a mnemonic rule of thumb for English spelling. If one is unsure whether a word is spelled with the sequence ei or ie, the rhyme suggests that the correct order is ie unless the preceding letter is c, in which case it is ei. For example: * ie in believe, fierce, collie, die, friend * ei after c in deceive, ceiling, receipt, ceilidh The rule is very well known; Edward Carney calls it "this supreme, and for many people solitary, spelling rule". However, its short form as above has many common exceptions; for example: * ie after c: species, science, sufficien...
(Don't follow this rule, it's a lie)
@Jefffrey Yeah - English language, spelling rule with so many exceptions that it's a joke.
> The rule is very well known
:.(
Weird..
that's an exception, I got it
It's a catch-all.
02:39
It probably has more exceptions to it than words that follow it.
Anyway, I gotta sleep. Nite all:)
Night
night
02:51
Sky, Y U USING SILVERLIGHT
Ell
Ell
I'm pretty sure it genuinely does have more exceptions
Anyway sleepy time
Xeo
Xeo
I love SciShow and Hank's enthusiasm (@R.Martinho should also like this one)
huh
I don't remember it snowing in space in the movie
That's ridiculous.
03:07
@Jefffrey Why would they add snow...
steak, frilled squid & steamed veges ...
lot & lots of it for lunch
@Jefffrey Move to a planet that rotates slower
can you get your kerbal ship ready for tomorrow?
03:23
@Xeo the monostate pattern that article espouses are still singletons... just many instead of one
Xeo
Xeo
uhm, what?
I was struck by your answer on stackoverflow.com/a/11711991/332733
the "don't use a singleton" bit
Ugh ~patterns~
Ugh ~~cats~~
Xeo
Xeo
1) you should take that up with @jalf, and 2) a singleton is defined to be global and have a single instance, so I don't see how multiples of the same thing could count as one
03:27
@Xeo the state itself becomes the singletons
> What I find very nice about monostate classes is that they avoid all of the complications about having to access a particular instance of a class. Any instance is as good as another.
Ahahah holy shit this is so fucking terrible
@Mgetz Use the arrows to reply to messages kthx.
will do...
Whoever came up with that managed to top singleton in shittiness
Good job
do you guys ever find yourselves writing wrappers for std::thread where all they do is call join() at destructor?
03:29
No
@Mgetz singleton is something we do not speak of here, that's how forbidden it is
and now that I have googled what "monostates" are, yeahhh, I am banning that one :P
@ScarletAmaranth In my particular case I had a question that while not explicitly about singletons... was about singletons. But I think I'm going to go the eventing route as what I need is single point asynchronous aggregation. Which none of the patterns previously mentioned would have accomplished well.
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@EtiennedeMartel MUSSIIIIIC:
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03:34
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/cc @FredOverflow @Xeo @Rapptz
Xeo
Xeo
@ThePhD well that was random
@Mgetz, singletons are just bad for multiple reasons. You can either trust me or look it up (possibly on SO)
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@Xeo It was too awesome to keep to myself.
03:37
@ThePhD 3/10
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@Jefffrey THAT is the first good argument I've seen against that pattern, but to be brutally honest you might as well put a sign on it that says "HORRIBLE FOR THREADED APPLICATIONS BEWARE!" as the locking will kill performance.
@ThePhD I'm not such a huge fan of retro game music. I mean, the songs themselves are good, but the hardware limitations usually means they sound like ass. So I normally prefer arrangements of the sort.
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@EtiennedeMartel Mmm, I see I see.
03:44
@Mgetz then by all means go ahead and singleton the fuck out of your code for all I care ;)
As far as actual music go, here's something else.
@ScarletAmaranth Nooooooooooo, then he'll come crying here when it doesn't work :(
@ScarletAmaranth no thanks, the event sourcing pattern is much better anyway, and while it requires locking the locks should be briefer
int NumDigits(int x)
{
    x = abs(x);
    return (x < 10 ? 1 :
        (x < 100 ? 2 :
        (x < 1000 ? 3 :
        (x < 10000 ? 4 :
        (x < 100000 ? 5 :
        (x < 1000000 ? 6 :
        (x < 10000000 ? 7 :
        (x < 100000000 ? 8 :
        (x < 1000000000 ? 9 :
        10)))))))));
}
03:48
logarithms are overrated
for some reason, people don't like / understand logarithms, I don't get it
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@melak47 So I figured. Changing it to default brush of any kind really screwed me over. u.u
how do I link directly to an answer?
@ScarletAmaranth click the share link beneath it
@ThePhD the good of a background brush is that the default wndproc will paint the background when you resize. The bad is that when you're rendering crap to your window, that background color is almost never going to be what you need for there to be no awkward black/white/??? stripes when resizing :p
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@melak47 Yeah... in the end, 0/NULL works best.
03:52
ah, thanks
look at this gem:
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A: c++ print a vector that contain a struct

ashTry this: #include<iostream> #include<vector> using namespace std; struct eMailMsg { string to; // i.e. "[email protected]" string from; // i.e. "[email protected]" string message; // body of message string subject; // i.e. "CS106 Rocks!" int date; // date email was sent int time; // tim...

want to print it? better make it implicitly convert to const char* :D :D
@ThePhD and like I tested, just presenting your backbuffer on ERASEBACKGRND works fine :)
@ScarletAmaranth lol.
@melak47 :D :D
@ScarletAmaranth facepalm
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So
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I started porting my shit to OpenGL
user3010322
03:54
... And then I punked out, because I didn't want to deal with the errors. u.u
@ThePhD huzzah
@ThePhD ... :(
son i am disappoint
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But
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But you don't understand, doe.
user3010322
That window creation, man.
user3010322
Plus, @LightnessRacesinOrbit told me I should make the choice between D3D/OpenGL a runtime thing (e.g., you specify it just before shit gets going).
03:55
Hm...
sfmlWindow(sf::VideoMode(width, height), title, sf::Style::Default, sf::ContextSettings(32))
Difficult to create a window, yes I see :P
user3010322
Listen, you, with your
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fancy frameworks and shit.
@Borgleader His allergy.
user3010322
It's not an allergy!
03:56
> StackOverflow Sucks! OR Maybe it's for EXPERTS, not me!
I posted two 3 questions on it. All are marked as "off topic" in THEIR logic. Now I could not ask any question on that site.
lol
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I picked up glload
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I just don't want anything more than glload.
user3010322
Is that a crime?!
@Jefffrey we're clearly not experts enough compared to his level
My engine (so far) can be described as:
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03:58
@ScarletAmaranth he can always go to that other site with the dash :p
I think they embrace experts :p
@melak47 oh yeah, that site, where you need to pay in order to get shitty advice
@ThePhD I remember...I was kyrostat's windows guy :D

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