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18:01
You'd teach an OS course with a language students don't know? :S
@Jefffrey Ultimately, you're arguing that denotational semantics is all that matters, and connotational semantics should be ignored (i.e., that only the dictionary definitions of words matter, and things like how something is written don't). The last I heard, most linguists reject that notion entirely, and believe that in most cases connotation typically carries the majority of real meaning.
@JerryCoffin "how something is written don't" -- What? No. I'm just saying that the length of a paragraph doesn't necessarily imply the author meant for it to be important/non-important.
I started reading about NT Lan Manager and ended up in Hades. Thanks Wikipedia!
@Jefffrey I that case I'll summarize: it seems to me that you're actively ignoring reality.
Yeah, that might be it.
18:09
I miss hats already
Xeo
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Fuck "reality", who came up with that shitty concept anyways?
@Xeo Good point.
I always forget how shitty chat is on the phone
18:17
@TonyTheLion xkcd.com/214 [unoneboxed]
Heheh :)
user1804599
Could you please post a bigger image? This one is so small I can’t even read the text.
Probably
lol
dat sarcasm
user1804599
This one is a little nicer than the previous one. coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/60899e5f3dd97eb0
@rightfold nope, both ugly
user1804599
18:22
The latter is less ugly.
user406009
@rightfold That's an abomination.
user1804599
Fuck trailing whitespace.
What motivates you to write that bunch of ugly, unreadable macro crap?
user1804599
My insanity, I guess.
Whoever made Boost.PP needs a medal.
user406009
18:23
Even template meta-programming would be better than that.
Purple Heart?
I mean, they were surely wounded.
Are/were generators considered for C++14?
Why were they ruled out?
18:25
Because your mum decided so
Dunno. Probably not enough time.
@TonyTheLion She most certainly did not, my mum is a big fan of coroutines, and she advocates their use whenever possible.
user1804599
I think I am going to implement sorting too.
@BenjaminGruenbaum lol
She never yields food.
She's so big, once you get her running, there's no halting.
18:27
wow
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world of warcraft
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Q: Why wasn't yield added to C++0x?

ttsiodrasI have been using yield in many of my Python programs, and it really clears up the code in many cases. I blogged about it and it is one of my site's popular pages. C# also offers yield – it is implemented via state-keeping in the caller side, done through an automatically generated class that ke...

user406009
They never should have changed the name to C++11. C++0x was a much better name.
both informal
user1804599
C++0x doesn’t make sense because it was released in 2011.
18:30
@Lalaland The name is ISO/IEC 14882:2011 Standard for Programming Language C++.
lol
What happens if I nest tags? [tag:]
@Rapptz Why wasn't everything added to C++0x? Then we wouldn't need new standards all the time!
@rightfold C++0xb. Still not funny.
@FredOverflow Kinda tempted to post that question and close the one above as a dupe.
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum You're craazy. Compared to VAX the C++ version of ReSharper just gets in the way and fails at a lot of baic operations. =[
18:35
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
alpha!
@ThePhD this has not been my experience.
user3010322
It has potential, sure, but it's got a way to go before it can hit that potential cap.
Comparing a product that has been around for years with a nightly build of one that isn't even available to the general public as a beta.
user3010322
@BenjaminGruenbaum Well, good for you. Maybe it just doesn't like me. :c
18:36
You're probably the worst beta user ever.
lol
user3010322
Hey, I send my error reports properly. :c
user406009
Bjarne Stroustrup - "Tom [Cargil]'s suggestion with a further idea: Propsers of new [C++]
features should be required to donate a kidney. That would - Jim [Waldo]
pointed out - make people think hard before proposing, and even people
without any sense would propose at most two extensions."
I bought my first Blu-ray player today :)
Funny, the amazon.com reviews are a lot worse...
18:44
TIL ribald is a word in English.
@FredOverflow I have an LG Blu-ray player. I've never had an issue with it.
@TonyTheLion What model? How long since you bought it?
@FredOverflow BP520, I've had it since about Sept 2012.
You probably have the model that follows the one I have (BP620)
Newer isn't always better.
For example, the successor of the 620 is the 630, and according to amazon.de, it is much worse.
True, but its supposed to be better
The 620 is the last with analog audio out. I wanted that, so I had to get the 620, anyway :)
user3010322
18:50
@melak47 What's the HBR brush you use for your window background in Snake?
If it were for believing reviews, I'd never have to buy any technology product, because there's always bad reviews
@TonyTheLion Sure, but there's a difference between 3% one-star-reviews and 20% one-star-reviews :)
If I had believed the reviews of the headphones I bought, I should have never got them because they were bad. I have now had them quite a while and have never had any bad experience.
You should get these suckers.
I have those
The one-star-reviews aren't even 1%. That is just amazing.
If you want to see amazing reviews..
@Rapptz well, fuck
18:54
I remember that
Oh, I haven't watched Breaking Bad in a while. Is there series over yet?
we are done here guys, pack your stuff
@FredOverflow Yeah it finished.
I watched it all in 6 days or so.
Awesome. Lonely nights in front of the TV, here I come!
@TonyTheLion but they're the boss
18:55
I like them :)
I don't like Bose headphones
They're too expensive, for little reason imo.
The ATH-M50s are great though
I used to have the in-ear ones from Bose, those were my first Bose pair, after a string of other makes and models that were all pretty crappy. I liked the Bose ones, and they lasted a long time, so I stuck with it.
If anyone has the money then M50s are probably the best pair for the <$200 price range :v
I can't remember why I'm reading this
How did I get into poetry?? I was reading about computer networking...
flips table
@TonyTheLion we were talking about rhythm :)
19:00
@Rapptz Sometimes I wonder why the "s" isn't the default model.
@BartoszKP No, it came from something I clicked in Wikipedia, but I can't remember how I go there
@FredOverflow Coiled cables are 80s cool~
@TonyTheLion we were talking about rhythm :)
Ohhhh, I used to have Sony headphones.
They were good actually
@BartoszKP I just said it didn't originate from the conversation here
damnit
Listen!
Barket
we were talking about rhythm
:(
19:03
I also learned there's another Homer to the one I knew.
@TonyTheLion you didn't have Homer in school? :0
Not that I remember
Oh wait, Tony already destroyed the joke.
@TonyTheLion Uncultured, much?
19:06
@FredOverflow lol
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sorry if I don't remember much of the history I was taught at school. That's no reason for you to insult me.
about as much fun as it is I guess.
I just want to het it over with, so I can do "actual work" :/
user3010322
@melak47 I figured out how to make the window completely transparent, but not in the way I was hoping. xD
user3010322
It makes the entire window and all its contents transparent too, which is a little problematic because even my D3D stuff being drawn on it disappears completely
user3010322
But! It's good to know I can make the whole thing just ~~vanish~~
All my windows are almost completely translucent
They were that way when I bought the house
19:08
mine are dirty :\
@sehe dat pun
user3010322
Man
user3010322
After @Rapptz sent me on that fixing spree
user3010322
I completely forget what I was doing. u.u
@TonyTheLion Don't worry, we'll find reasons to insult you ;)
19:11
The only thing I remember from yesterday's evening is drinking vodka in a telephone booth
@FredOverflow I'm sure you will.
The Lounge has never failed on the territory of insulting people
Na, too lazy. I can just insult you without reasons ;)
@TonyTheLion How can you forget that Homer exists?!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not the Homer from The Simpsons, if that is what you're referring to.
user3010322
OH
user3010322
19:13
RIGHT
user3010322
I was going to port everything to OpenGL.
@TonyTheLion It wasn't.
user3010322
Quick poll: should the choice to use DirectX or OpenGL be a compile-time choice or a run-time choice?
I just find it hard to imagine that you can forget about one of the greatest Greek writers just because you left school! Lol!
@ThePhD I asked myself this once. Settled on run-time with a restart required.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You make it sound like everybody, except me then, knows who this Homer from Greek history is.
user3010322
19:14
That's gonna require a significant extra effort of engineering, but I think I can do it.
user3010322
@TonyTheLion IIRC he's the fancy greek writer that wrote The Iliad and The Odyssey. I'm not sure if he also wrote Metamorphosis (sp?).
@TonyTheLion Hence, uncultured.
"this Homer from Greek history" *shakes head*
> I know! Ponies just bursting into songs at random places at the drop of a hat? Who does that?
@TonyTheLion Well for me it was also quite unusual that someone doesn't remember him :0 Not that this is a big crime, just unusual
@EtiennedeMartel Friends
@TonyTheLion Do you know about "Shakespeare"?
19:16
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The above is an actual quote from the most recent MLP episode.
It's getting self-aware.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes.
aaaand I didn't do shit today either
@Jefffrey I know how that feels.
@EtiennedeMartel Friends
@Jefffrey +1 ;0
19:20
@TonyTheLion It hurts a lot, but, probably, not enough to make me do something tomorrow
@Jefffrey lol
@ThePhD Helping me with my TCG ofc.
I don't understand what's confusing with this question.
If you expand Array to int[2] you can clearly see what's wrong with you
@BartekBanachewicz In regards to ShaderProgram.getUniformLocation() ?
19:29
@TonyTheLion It's not history. It's culture. Homer has vast relevance to anything literature. Is his point :)
@sehe Yes I got that point now. I'm getting cultured as we speak. (ie I'm reading up on Homer and his works)
@TonyTheLion You'll be reading a while :) On the plus side, there's several thousands transcriptions, plays, summaries, analyses and probably even several comic book versions available
@TonyTheLion much culture, such knowledge wow
@sehe I figured I'll be here for a while.
19:32
@sehe you fucked up that tag good and proper!
@leemes I'm out on a limb guessing that his actual code is not like that (it's potentially a class member used from a const member function, etc.) — sehe 24 secs ago
@BartoszKP You just don't know your memes from your memes
@sehe You're wrong, sorry.
@sehe me not follow
19:36
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You're missing several points here. That's an interesting thought, but his code shows otherwise. So, your guess is as good as anyones. Unless your spanish helped you with something the OP is not showing. — sehe 6 secs ago
user1804599
Perl 6 junctions are cool.
@BartoszKP Tag meme != doge meme
@BartoszKP That's actually quite impressive. The largest thing I've ever used for vodka was a saucepan.
..and yes, it did nearly kill me.
( Sat-19:37:39 ) ( tomalak ) << f("hi"); void f(string&);
( Sat-19:37:40 ) ( geordi ) error: invalid initialization of non-const reference of type 'string& {aka string&}' from an rvalue of type 'const char*'
@sehe ^
@sehe they somehow fit together though
@MartinJames :D On one of my friend's wedding I've also tried vodka from large soup spoon (? - if that's how it's called)
19:38
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's nice that you are able to pull code out of your arse. I don't see such code in the OP.
@BartoszKP wokay. Like I said. You just don't know your memes apart :/
src/problem/Reader.cpp: In function member ‘void Reader::readFile(const char*)’:
src/problem/Reader.cpp:44:12: error: no matching call for  ‘(DateTime) (std::string&)’
make: *** [build/Reader.o] Error 1
@sehe Sorry I take it back
brainfart
:)
Oh wait, that says coincidencia
First time I've ever seen this error message.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Rather large one
@sehe yes
I'm playing Halo 4 at the same time
19:39
@sehe I admit I'm not very good at it :(
:) It's ok, I didn't downvote, so nothing to restore
@BartoszKP s/in/at/
yeah, also englichshsh
(you look good /in/ something (or somebody?))
thanks ill try to remember that
19:42
Hm
<thoughtful pose/>
<head tilt/>
<raises brow/>
<raises other brow/>
<turns away/>
<sigh/>
@Rapptz That was anticlimax
I like the one about nipples : D
19:54
why bartek?
I haven't tried drinking vodka inside a telephone booth ever, so this seemed like a good idea. And we were waiting for a bus ;0
Ah. Wrong bartek
Xeo
Xeo
> What happens to dead video game characters?

In the garbage dump of the Random Access Memory, you travel from town to town, meeting people who offer you their lightning and their prayer. Lightning clears the way for you to move forward and prayer builds shelters in a distant town where you must frequently hide to avoid being deleted into nothingness by the garbage collector. Along the way, you are thrust into many battle challenges, the outcome of which effects your shelters. There is ultimately, no way to escape the garbage collector, but running from it buys you time to think, wander, c
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Well that's an interesting game description
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sounds reasonable.
19:59
:DDDDDD
@sehe I think I'm the right bartek for such tasks
You may be right
wow
pun on a pun
metapun
Metapunintended
I wanted to do a doge-tag but I kept it to myself
thanks
20:02
A punintentional message
Xeo
Xeo
Argh, I sooo need to visit the doc on Monday. My leg hurts so much that I can't even sit for an extended amount of time.
Wait for it: monday it's gone
Xeo
Xeo
I've had this for the last two weeks, just not so increadibly bad
And I haven't been home in the last two weeks
okay. odds increased
Xeo
Xeo
otherwise I already would've gone
20:12
You need to define Y before X so X knows about it when it uses it. You also need a "using namespace std;" — Julian 12 mins ago
dat last part
@Borgleader ye
\> The only newbie who correctly uses `std::cout`
\> Gets the suggestion to use `using namespace std;`
This is a strange world
20:34
@BartoszKP lol
20:45
@BartekBanachewicz The thing about making the locations "type safe" is they're still going to need to be cast down to GLuint when calling gl::Uniform* and stuff
@rightfold I wasn't aware Pippi Longstocking had a brother
user1804599
I was aware of .
20:57
@Borgleader so that sucks
location is not a number. It's a location.
You don't perform arithmetic on those.
Don't tell me, tell whoever wrote gl::Uniform
then wrap it too vOv
actually the only thing that can be really done sanely when doing that stuff is providing more type safety
if you don't do that, you might as well use javascript and webgl
@sehe "Pippi Longstocking" lol
When I was a kid I was a big fan of Pippi.
Oh, TIL Pippi Longstocking is the official English name.
repost :P
thats just... gross
@BartoszKP Ohohohoh.
I think I should star that ^
21:27
Friendshit is magic.
3
^ let's transfer all stars
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Q: Can you help me security holes in the following function?

user3161261I was asked to find 3 or more security holes in this function. I'd be grateful for any help or explanation! Function verifies user password and unlocks mobile phone. The password is combination of device_id recieved from the Android OS and user password is recieved using scanf() function. The f...

rofl
user1804599
> src/number.cpp:9:42: error: designated initializers are a C99 feature [-Werror,-Wc99-extensions]
user1804599
Does this mean I have to pass -Wc99-extensions to disable the warning?
user1804599
Oh, -Wno-c99-extensions.
user1804599
21:36
I should use a pragma instead.
@Borgleader What is up with those If and Else?
Idk... but what I'm most intrigued by is:
21. If(!ret)  return  FALSE
22. Else     return FALSE
basically this returns false either way... so why bother with the rest of the shit
user1804599
21:58
Huh.
user1804599
Can’t I use decltype(auto) as the return type of a lambda?
Xeo
Xeo
You should be able to
cpx
cpx
What are the valid characters allowed in C++ code? For example: a-z, A-z, 0-9?
0
Q: C++ printing strange behave

user2919973I have a C++ problem: #include<iostream> #include<stdio.h> using namespace std; int main() { double k = 1.2366; cout << printf("%.3lf\n", k); } the output is: 1.237 6 but I expect: 1.237 why do i get this additional 6 at the 2nd line ?

cpx
cpx
22:02
I'm trying to make a program where I copy the formatted (e.g bold, different fonts) C++ code to the clipboard and then write it from the clipboard to C++ file with formatting removed.
Can I do it?
go through a plaintext editor?
the usual way is to paste into notepad first
cpx
cpx
Even the notepad would leave some characters which would appear as whitespace.
use notepad++ then with show invisible turned on
Xeo
Xeo
@Mgetz Or have a pasting option that ignores formatting
that works too
cpx
cpx
22:08
d:\test.c:3:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:3:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:3:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:3:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:5:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:5:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:5:1: error: stray '\240' in program
d:\test.c:5:1: error: stray '\240' in program
\240 for example
@cpx You want to convert from RTF to plain text?
cpx
cpx
Yes or from the MS Word or something.
I thought of just having the characters which are valid in C++ and erasing everything else.
How did you end up with C++ source in Word?
cpx
cpx
Just a few years ago when I was learning.
@cpx use Emacs ;0
22:14
@cpx So the code is probably crap by now.
cpx
cpx
I cannot simply copy it.
But anyway, the whole thing seems a bit fishy.
@cpx paste into notepad
Ell
Ell
Evening all
22:30
One does not simply copy "it"
You do everything simply
cpx
cpx
25 mins ago, by cpx
Even the notepad would leave some characters which would appear as whitespace.
hey folks
22:35
what's happening?
cpx
cpx
Okay, I'll just write the code manually in my free time.
night!
@TemplateRex nothing! it's terrible
I should date like this
hmm
tomorrow I might be forced to eat some solid food again.
the whole "hunger" thing
@MohammadAliBaydoun cool
user1804599
22:47
@MohammadAliBaydoun I should date.
> Love it! But surely it would be easier to just go full mechanical turk and cardboard cutout. #staylean
user1804599
Type subsets in Perl 6 are cool.
user1804599
It’s a pity there are no decent Perl 6 implementations yet.
@wilx why is that a bad thing?
git is a nice VCS
22:53
Because I have just (2 years ago?) migrated from Subversion to Bazaar.
haha guys look at the most recent XKCD :

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/haskell.png
@Mgetz No, it is not. It is powerful but it totally not nice.
@Domecraft its been posted twice already
@Domecraft not if John Carmack has anything to say about it...
user1804599
@Domecraft Haha guys look at this Pokémon.
2
user406009
22:54
@Domecraft Now to just post that to /r/haskell ...
@rightfold Me too ;_;
/r/haskell
I will probably get tons of upvotes
user1804599
It will probably get tons of downvotes because it’s a dupe from about two days ago.
Have you ever noticed that some people have exactly the same facial expression on each of their photos, regardless of the situation? What's wrong with them? I'm afraid of such people ;0

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