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8:00 PM
@ScottW But seriously, there so much love in the air, I can't even breath oxygen anymore.
 
Love the love
 
@Jefffrey No that's alcohol fumes
 
I find this position a bit too risqué.
I mean, I'm not obese, but I would need to check her bust weight before trusting the balance there
 
@sehe Valid observation
 
8:04 PM
I'll keep observing some more. Maybe I'll find other life saving clues
 
Yes please give me life saving clues
 
Life saving is a euphemism for corpse storage
 
GCC snapshot is growing too old, I'll need to give up ld.gold to upgrade :(
 
user1804599
What was the term for constructors like these again? T(int x, double y) : x(x), y(y) { }
 
@TonyTheLion Tineye failed to reverse engineer the source... But luckily I outsmart it anonib.com/nor/src/137640494419.jpg
 
8:09 PM
@LucDanton, did you plonk Tony?
 
@rightfold it's just a regular ctor
 
Actually, he might have plonked me too.
 
user1804599
@Abyx There was a special term for constructors that initialize members directly from parameters with the same names.
 
On the upside no more messing around with the ld symlink to please GHC, so there's that.
 
@Jefffrey Nah you two are just uselessly craving confirmation
 
8:17 PM
@Abyx lol
 
@rightfold Since when?
 
user1804599
At least since first time I heard it.
 
maybe whoever told it to you was just a moron and there is no generally accepted term.
 
user1804599
Ugh.
 
user1804599
Bible quiz on TV.
 
8:21 PM
@rightfold Oh, well, talk to you later then!
@TonyTheLion However, this is what Google Image search gave: i.imgur.com/L7O0X4J.jpg - just saying
 
user1804599
There’s some terrible gospel music between each question.
 
@rightfold Of course. Which channel?
 
user1804599
@sehe Channel two.
 
@sehe Not really. I'm just curious. It's not like I talk to Luc that much anyway.
 
ah
I feel like shit.
3
 
8:23 PM
@rightfold No way, Bert van Leeuwen. I was once on the same screen with him as a presenter. Like, 30 years ago
 
user1804599
@sehe You attended the quiz?
 
I was cute and played the violin. I cannot be blamed
> "30 years ago"
 
user1804599
Awesome.
 
lol yeah in a way. "Jong Geleerd". Maybe uitzendinggemist.nl still has it :/
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
 
:)
 
user1804599
Hmm, Chazia Mourali.
 
user1804599
Where do I know her from?
 
user1804599
She’s hot.
 
8:27 PM
Weakest Link (Zwakste Schakel), and something like Kassa I think
 
user1804599
Hmm, can’t recall.
 
Also, if that's hot, I'm frigid. I mean, srsly
 
Yea, I agree with sehe here.
she isnt hot
 
user1804599
D:
 
I'm acing them questions.
 
user1804599
8:29 PM
@sehe oohh right yes Zwakste Schakel.
 
@rightfold I bet you are avoiding to look at Catherine to avoid premature ejaculation then
 
user1804599
@sehe she’s not hot.
 
user1804599
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute Telkitty II?
 
IIII
 
user1804599
8:30 PM
A girl once said my voice was extremely sexy.
 
user1804599
As did Ell.
 
What happened? Oh wait, I know. You were vacuum cleaning
 
user1804599
@sehe When?
 
Ell
It is pretty sexy
 
@rightfold Nope. Read my username and then you'll understand that my reaction and self-esteem is visually represented by the two dogs above.
 
8:30 PM
@rightfold I mean, that past tense must carry meaning
 
user1804599
@sehe It does not.
 
user1804599
She isn’t currently saying it.
 
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute Hi kitty
 
user1804599
She said it back then.
 
user1804599
When I called her for the first time.
 
8:31 PM
@rightfold And she lives in Eindhoven. Ever since they got HiFi phone connectivity, she revised her opinion
 
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute You're cheap. And a bad liar
 
user1804599
@sehe HiFi phone connectivity?
 
user1804599
What is that?
 
@rightfold ...
 
8:32 PM
@sehe Wut?
 
user1804599
 
@AGirlSaidMySmileIsCute Too late to act surprised
 
user1804599
 
@caps what's funny?
 
8:32 PM
@rightfold Ok... maybe.
 
I honestly don't understand what you are trying to point to by embedding my profile above...
 
Php is too advanced for the kitty
 
@Abyx Now I'm laughing again because that was supposed to be a reply to someone else.
 
There's something awry here.
You definitely don't seem new here.
 
Ell
That is kitty?
 
8:33 PM
{YesNoMaybe}
 
@sehe Yes/No/FileNotFound
 
I smell a French connection
 
user1804599
 
someone been followin me
 
Ell
Hmm
 
8:35 PM
Has anyone developed a chrome plugin to auto detect the generic memes and just block them?
 
2 messages moved to bin
 
Someone has developed a critical condition and started oozing memes out of all pores
 
Or.. Thank you, Cat.
 
Unfunny, unnecessary, takes half the screen, don't post this shit ever again
 
... In this room
 
8:37 PM
what about a 50px x 50px image?
 
I guess you could post it on reddit, they'll take anything there
Don't post any images
Of any kind
 
Pollute the Java rooms
 
Not even of source code
 
What about them pictures on the left.
<-----------
 
user1804599
Bin them too.
 
user1804599
8:42 PM
Except mine.
 
user1804599
Mine is nice.
 
You are a rainbow pony. What else is there?
@rightfold Would you attend a MLP convention?
 
user1804599
Sure.
 
user1804599
If it’s nearby.
 
Fancy.
I wonder if it is really comfortable.
 
8:45 PM
@wilx It is fancy. But it would make me even lazier than now.
 
:D
Yeah, I guess I could fall asleep on a job like that. :)
 
user1804599
@wilx awesome.
 
@Jefffrey guess what?
 
@Pawnguy7 You like ponies too?
 
Eh, no.
Got SFML to work.
And made a commit of whatever random changes I made.
 
8:50 PM
so I figure
for x |= y
or_assign(self, other) {
    if (!self)
        self = other;
}
 
@Pawnguy7 Good :D
 
And now.
With variadic templates and delegating constructors.
I can make it better too. Especially with the inputs.
@DeadMG this is for Wide?
 
yeah.
it's pseudocode for how I am going to implement short-circuiting.
 
@wilx I bet it is. But it will have all the ergonomics of working in zero gravity then. Meaning: you have to revalidate and carefully build muscles when you're back on the ground
 
@DeadMG I seem to be reading this wrong. Is it related to bitwise OR assign operator?
 
8:54 PM
Wide doesn't have separate bitwise and logical operators.
it's just an OR operator.
 
Delegating constructors are awesome. I didn't know they were added.
 
this specifically is for boolean short-circuiting operators.
 
It only has a logical OR?
 
no, it also has bitwise or.
it's just that they are the same operator.
and if you have integers then it's bitwise and if you have booleans then it's logical.
 
Sounds logical.
 
8:56 PM
Can int be implicitly casted to bool?
 
no.
in fact, I just ripped out all the implicit conversion code.
 
@DeadMG Excellent!
 
if you have x | y and an operator is not found, then an explicit bool(x) | bool(y) is performed.
 
Are you mapping casting to C++ style, or do you have something else in mind?
Explicit casts, that is.
 
right now, the explicit business is mostly like C++.
although I dropped (T)expr.
 
9:01 PM
const_cast is meant to be used for, say, old, non-const API's, correct?
 
yep
 
I wonder if it is abused like friendship.
 
This screen just tells so much about this game
 
I haven't seen many friendship abuses
 
cc @Xeo @thecoshman @melak47 :v
 
9:03 PM
I don't think I have seen them persay, though I have used some strange ones in the past.
Seems every post on them, people are screaming abuse though.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Yep, they're fire-proof
 
@Pawnguy7 Per se
 
Ell
Ahh my mouth is burning
 
@Pawnguy7 People scream abuse about everything.
 
Xeo
Buddy of mine just made his Kerbal leave the pod and crash into earth
 
9:04 PM
In what circumstances will something like ... struct foo<A, B, decltype( void(true ? A {} : B{}) )> {}; SFINAE out?
 
@CatPlusPlus Thank you.
 
There's a mod for more realistic reentry
 
alright.
 
GCC is complaining about invalid conversions/copies where it previously didn't.
 
@CatPlusPlus ksp, huh?
 
9:05 PM
@CatPlusPlus Oh. I guess I never saw it in text before. I am probably using it incorrectly too.
 
now my bool short-circuit test passes.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Isn't GCC buggy wrt void around SFINAE-expressions?
 
@Pawnguy7 I've seen (considerably) more abuse done to avoid friendship than of friendship itself.
 
Xeo
Also, it should SFINAE if A or B is not default constructible (and if they're not convertible to each other I think)
 
@Xeo How come I've never run into that before?
 
9:07 PM
@JerryCoffin I hadn't considered that. In my case, I basically used it because I forgot about const, or something... (some data storage was friends with some generators).
 
Heh, use of Void<decltype( /* expr */ )> I suppose.
 
I think now I have a... better use.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton If I did decltype(void(blah), std::true_type{}), it wouldn't properly SFINAE. With decltype(blah, void(), std::true_type{}), it worked
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes
 
@Xeo Oh, does ring a bell actually.
 
9:09 PM
0
A: What is the name of this operator: "-->"?

kenbaSo there's yet another reason to prefer --x over x--. Not only is while(--x >= 0) potentially faster than while(x-- > 0) it's also harder to obfuscate. ;)

^^ nuke it
Seriously?!?! ~purformance~ when you have "-->"???
:)
 
Ah, that's actually GCC being more conformant: a non-copyable type has a deleted copy constructor after all :/
... time to switch to -std=c++1y?
 
Harder to obfuscate doesn't seem valid, to me. If you try, it shouldn't be that hard, with anything.
 
Ah it doesn't implement the C++1y fix though.
 
Xeo
@LucDanton Ah, right, deleted special members don't SFINAE
 
@Xeo Sanity check: deleted anything is declared and should not SFINAE out. And I think GCC is too lenient in some (convoluted) cases on that point.
Actually I'm not sure of anything.
 
Xeo
9:15 PM
@LucDanton Guess you're stuck with EnableIf<And<IsConstructible<A>, IsConstructible<B>, Or<IsConvertible<A, B>, IsConvertible<B,A>>>, void>? :P (If that was indeed the intended check of that conditional expression.)
@LucDanton Who is, who is...
 
Actually it's my own SFINAE-friendly CommonType that blows up. Not really looking forward to hardcoding the condtional operator logic in TMP :|
 
Xeo
:/
 
> + /* Make =delete work with SFINAE. */
random GCC patch
 
Xeo
heh
I guess that A{} was actually std::declval<A>()?
 
@Xeo I tweaked it after actually.
 
9:18 PM
> Dropbox: 101% CPU
Seriously, take a fucking nap once in a while, Dropbox.
 
hmmm.
> Fixed the value and assignment callable helper factories to correctly forward the location.
I dunno, this makes perfect sense in context, but when you read it back.
an assignment callable helper factory?
 
lol
@sehe Building Boost without messing with the -std flag this time; if it breaks I'll hold you responsible.
 
now I have four commits in the last two days.
 
@LucDanton please do
@DeadMG Armageddon
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/19673332/… I think it is an interesting question.
 
9:27 PM
2 hours ago, by DeadMG
@EtiennedeMartel woof woof motherfucker
 
> The second and third Anglo-Dutch wars confirmed the Dutch Republic's position as the leading maritime state of the seventeenth century.
@zalenix I'm fairly sure someone else already asked that.
 
@ScottW I see ... a duplicate
 
@EtiennedeMartel @ScottW Yes. Please check the additional information that has been added now. It makes the question more relevant now I think.
 
@zalenix yeah it is. have -1.
 
Actually I'm not asking for a quick hack for the solution. I found that on SO. What my question is a little deeper about design. Please once read the entire question
 
9:32 PM
your question needs SSCCE
(removed)
 
@ScottW He edited it. I upvoted that question. But now I'm gonna reverse my vote because I didn't see that he questiondumped it.
3
 
@DeadMG I still don't see a SSCEE.
 
Hey @DeadMG Thanks for the answer! It's clear now :)
 
@zalenix I don't agree. The problem is with assumptions and badly written //some processing with input that doesn't check preconditions
 
@Abyx The question is quite answerable in it's current format. The conversion from his example code to an SSCCE is trivial. Since it involves reading an input from a file, it's impossible for him to post an entire compliable and executable example anyway.
 
Ell
9:35 PM
17 views and no answers in 7 days :(
 
@Ell That'll teach you to use the G word.
 
@zalenix Well, you got an answer. It doesn't help you fix the code. But you can fix your assumption
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel Gay? xD
 
@sehe //some processing with input has not been elaborated because what is done to the string input has nothing to do with std::getline() Should I still modify something?
 
@zalenix Since you are reading input from a file, then // some processing with input should check preconditions.
a malicious user or data corruption or anyshit like that could replace any line in the file with an empty line.
 
9:37 PM
@DeadMG Kindly elaborate I didn't understand
 
@zalenix Questiondumping is not well seen here. Refrain from doing that next time :)
 
By preconditions you mean if (input == "") ?
 
@zalenix You are reading input in from an external source. That external source could be malicious. You cannot have, as a precondition of your program, that the input is well-formed. You must validate it before attempting to execute your code.
 
You're still as amiable as an anglerfish.
 
exactly, asserting on external data is a shot in the knee
 
9:40 PM
@DeadMG You are right. But here the specifications were fixed. Hence, I didn't do the precondition checking. But it should be done in general case definitely (like checking the format of string, letters or integers etc.)
 
@zalenix If it hangs because the input is empty, that's the bug.
 
@zalenix obviously you need, because as you've experienced yourself - even you aren't trustworthy as a reliable data source for yourself : )
 
@ScottW lol, me too
 
@ScottW I really am owning the starboard tonight.
 
You know I can change that, right?
 
9:42 PM
no.
 
Does ld.gold differ in behaviour with ld.bfd? I'm finding I need to use -rpath-link to successfully link Boost.Log which appears to have a dependency on Boost.Thread.
 
I have never, ever, cancelled stars on anything or anyone.
and totally don't know that owners can do that.
 
"lol" (<--- wtf frowns sternly) /cc @ScottW
I didn't. I downvoted it because the question didn't show minimal search effort and left out absolutely relevant code. (You don't go and claim that "while(getline(...));" hangs if that's your own code you're hiding)
 
Is there an alternative via an environment variable?
 
That's true. It was a new information I learnt today: that the newline character doesn't mean end of the current line. It actually means: a new line containing an empty string. Come to think of it, it should have been obvious. Oh well
 
9:44 PM
^ There's a cure for that. Unit Tests.
6
 
@zalenix You also learned not to questiondump in the Lounge. I hope.
 
> I am getting both systems at launch.
 
Make sure you check all those pesky assumptions. Test it with CRLF/LF files (possibly with CR too). Test it with no EOL at EOF. Just: test it
 
Also I am being punished severely for being unaware. My reputation dropped from 82 to 70 for just this question. I feel sad and lonely and with no one to look for help :(
 
Some people really have way too much money.
 
9:45 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'm getting both, just not at launch
 
Wow. Only 12 points. That's okay. That's ~1 upvote on an answer.
So, look at yourself for help !
 
@Jefffrey But got my answer here so quick! That's what matters, not some numbers, right ? :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel There's no such thing.
 
@zalenix No, because now I will remember you as a questiondumper and just bin you every time you dump a question, and you won't ever get an answer here again.
 
@zalenix Of course, darling. Of course.
 
9:46 PM
I wouldn't say "severely"
 
@caps Sure there is. I'll ask you again when the unofficial shadow government (business bozos) in your country demand "protection money" and stuff
 
user1804599
If I designed Earth it would consist of eight equally-shaped pieces of land and three big rivers that form rings around the planet, and all roads would be completely straight and most efficient.
 
@zalenix That's the spirit
 
@sehe huh?
 
Ell
Hmm I need the @chemist right now
@rightfold no beauty :(
 
user1804599
9:48 PM
@sehe That’s the asio
 
@sehe Thanks!
Ok guys, have fun. I'm better outta here
 
user1804599
@Ell You don’t like tidiness?
 
@caps There's definitely a problem with "people [...] have way too much money"
 
Ell
@rightfold chaos is beautiful <3
 
Ok, time for a glass of wine. See ya in an hour.
 
9:48 PM
@sehe Nice avatar.
 
user1804599
@BartoszKP Thank you.
 
@Jefffrey wine? like, with a girl?
 
@BartoszKP Yeah! It's new :)
 
:D
 
@rightfold Only eight?
 
user1804599
9:49 PM
@DeadMG eight.
 
@rightfold Make streams of alcohol
 
They could've been called "bits" then with a cool pun
 
@sehe Your sentence is a little ambiguous... I think it is counter-productive to think that, in general, there is such a thing as "too much money." Maybe in specific instances or for specific people...
 
@BartoszKP (took me those 10 seconds to recover)
 
is this code thread-safe: class Foo { volatile bool m_flag{false}; public: void setFlag() { m_flag = true; } }; ?
 
user1804599
9:50 PM
 
user1804599
Eight pieces like the eight colors in this picture, with giant rivers between them.
 
@Abyx Depends on what you mean by "thread-safe". But probably yes. That is, you will only ever read true or false and nothing else.
 
@sehe yeah, can't wait till you'll have a new avatar
 
@rightfold Oh wait, never mind, that's just a confusing image.
 
user1804599
Four on the northern half and four on the southern half makes eight.
 
Ell
9:51 PM
@rightfold it couldn't be a sphere then?
 
@caps Well, if you're excluding all usual context where "too much money" would be "too much" and cop-out with "in general", then you're obviously always right: If there's just - in general - too much money, it will just - in general - not be worth much
I'll have it soon
2027, I expect
Any day now
 
@sehe all right, can't wait
 
:)
 
@rightfold So people would endlessly complain about who has jurisdiction over fishing rights on the rivers, and the centers of all the land masses are deserts?
 
@FredOverflow I mean that if m_flag is modified only in setFlag, it can't magically become false again after setFlag set it?
 
user1804599
9:52 PM
Who needs fish when you have pigs?
 
@Abyx Well, if one thread calls setFlag, there is no guarantee whatsoever that any other thread will ever see the update. volatile in C++ is not at all like volatile in Java.
 
@rightfold Who needs pigs when you have figs?
 
> "people would endlessly complain" <-- halting problem again
 
user1804599
If I designed Earth, I would obviously leave out fish.
 
70
Q: Why is volatile not considered useful in multithreaded C or C++ programming?

Michael EkstrandAs demonstrated in this answer I recently posted, I seem to be confused about the utility (or lack thereof) of volatile in multi-threaded programming contexts. My understanding is this: any time a variable may be changed outside the flow of control of a piece of code accessing it, that variable ...

 
Ell
9:53 PM
If I designed earth there would be no humans, only robots
 
If I designed Earth, I'd just skip it all (YAGNI)
 
user1804599
Vote rightfold for god.
 
@FredOverflow hm... actually I recall that Standard guarantees that all threads will eventually see the update
 
@sehe I mean in the context of "so and so just spent so much money. no one should have that much money" etc. the idea that once someone goes above x amount of money they have "too much," and they are either/both a) being immoral and b) it needs to be taken away.
Nothing wrong with making lots and lots of money. Or with spending it.
 
@Abyx Show me the quote. Why don't you replace volatile bool with std::atomic<bool>?
 
9:54 PM
If I designed Earth it would be ruled by me, and everything would be in order
 
@FredOverflow because I don't want to use #lock
 
@caps huh. Why do you only look at it in the context of jealousy? Just state 'jealousy is useless' then, and we'll all heartily agree. But that's not what you claimed
 
@Abyx std::atomic<bool> does not imply locking. It will use that fastest hardware instructions there are to achieve what you want.
 
@caps Depends on how it's made
 
@sehe What's a context in which someone can have too much money?
@sehe Yes, that's where I have strong feelings. "Wealth inequality" in and of itself doesn't bother me, but the means are often unjust.
 
9:55 PM
@FredOverflow (though, it may not be lock free. only atomic_flag is guaranteed to be lock free)
 
@rightfold So, virtually all life on Earth would cease to exist, because there would be no nutrients and such coming from the oceans?
 
@caps Where they exploit people in remote areas of the world and subsequently basically blackmail political parties in a "democratic" system into adopting their interests. This happens, you know
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow Hmm, so if I want a hot girlfriend, I could just use std::atomic<bool> and it would use the fastest hardware instructions to get me one?
 
user1804599
@DeadMG Would be awesome.
 
user1804599
No more idiots!
 
9:56 PM
lol
 
@rightfold Wait, where did you not- prefix go?
 
sbi
First night since Friday night I'm home. Spent three nights in a row and an afternoon either meeting with politicians or preparing or analyzing such meetings. So I meant to relax, and just calm down a bit. Instead just found a mail from my 2nd ex-wife. In the interest of our kids, she'll reduce my time with those kids from half the month to two weekends a months. So I had to write a letter to my lawyer instead.
Life's a bitch right now. (This one's an explanation for @the.)
 
@sehe Yes, and it's awful, but it's not because they have "too much money;" it's how they use it. No one says that you have to be evil just because you're rich.
 
Ell
@DeadMG why can't it come from the land?
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow It was silly and time to remove it.
 
9:56 PM
@Ell Because animals die over the oceans.
 
1 min ago, by caps
@sehe What's a context in which someone can have too much money?
 
user1804599
No more PHP programmers! Oh wait, I already implied that.
 
@caps Precisely. And the fact of the matter is, capitalism has proven to breed greedy corporates
 
imagine that you are a bird.
 
That was the question, and you got an answer.
 
Ell
9:57 PM
@DeadMG and the land
 
@sehe It really is awful. That's the stuff that pisses me off. But I'm distinguishing between that and "having too much money" which is something separate.
 
@Ell Irrelevant.
 
@sbi May I bother you with questions per email, anyway?
 
if there is no life in the oceans, nutrients do not move from oceans to land.
 
user1804599
@DeadMG ecoducts.
 
9:57 PM
@FredOverflow he was advised to add another "not-" prefix instead, but declined it :(
 
therefore, nutrients will slowly bleed into the oceans, and not be recycled or returned.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Fire away. Anything that distracts me.
 
therefore, the land will be slowly drained of all useful resources.
 
@BartoszKP How about !!rightfold? :)
 
> In the interest of our kids
 
sbi
9:57 PM
@sehe Um. A typo.
 
What the fuck?
 
@sbi You know, just some stuff about the job opening.
 
@FredOverflow I believe it was also considered and rejected :/
 
Ell
@sbi That sucks man :/ But chin up ape, I hope things get better for you :)
 
user1804599
I went to get a new ID card today so I had to give the lady my email address.
 
9:58 PM
@sbi Sadly then :)
 
sbi
@FredOverflow I thought so. As I said, bother me with it.
 
user1804599
I decided to spell it out letter-by-letter. :V
 
@sbi Okay, but not right now, probably more like tomorrow :)
too tired right now
 
@sehe I want to argue with that, but I'm not sure how. :p
 
amazing how many downvotes you can get for simply accurately describing global variables.
 
9:59 PM
@rightfold Did you also give her your number?
 
user1804599
@BartoszKP You cannot put bangs in nicknames on Stack Exchange, noob.
 
@caps You can't. Because the problem there is precisely "they have to much money". Of course, it's compounded by other things (laws that favor rich, failure to uphold human rights etc.) but even if that weren't the case, just adding more money would again exhibit the same symptoms. Just later.
 
@DeadMG Were you pissing on Singletons?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Got another important meeting coming up tomorrow night, so you might want to send this to me so that I can answer it in the morning, before I get sucked into work.
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow No. She wanted either, not both. Besides, I don’t know my phone number.
 
9:59 PM
@FredOverflow No.
I asked a question about statics and Catch, and I described LLVM's global variables as "shit".
 
@rightfold even if you ask everyone to just turn their volume down? :/
 

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