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13:00
@LucDanton const ☐ = square( | )
@thecoshman Is it because it is simpler to use? Or because it has more features? I read only good things about git
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@KonradRudolph -Os
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inb4 17 kB.
Ye. Also consider that different backends can be substituted: there's no 'merely' in 'produces assembly from the intermediate representation'. It's a whole job.
@rightfold First I need to get rid of some segfault ;)
… it’s probably the Spirit debug info that takes up all the space, anyway
13:00
@AndyProwl Github is more popular and better feated
@thecoshman blackboard?
A compiler 'merely' produces an executable from the intermediate source code. The complex stuff has long been resolved by the programmer by then!
@Aboutblank BitBucket
oh lol
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Bitbucket
13:01
const 🍌 = square (banana);
@BartekBanachewicz Guess I'll have to try both
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There is no BitBucket.
Huh?
@rightfold What do you mean?
@AndyProwl rightfold is case-sensitive
aha
lol
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13:02
You don't say Javascript, so you don't say BitBucket.
@KonradRudolph I think -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden might help you but I'm not sure.
@rightfold pirate said BB
@Telkitty猫咪咪 do you mean const banana *🍌 = new banana();
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@BartekBanachewicz So?
@Potatoswatter Does it really look like I'm defining const?
13:03
@rightfold whatever
@LucDanton Nice! Didn’t know that flag
@melak47 auto fruit_piece = make_unique<🍌>();
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@not-sehe isn't that an error?
@melak47 not sure about const qualifier, more like: Banana *🍌 = new Banana();
where, what
The characters don't show up on this side, ftr
13:05
@KonradRudolph I'm genuinely interested if you notice an improvement. Or if it got worse.
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The variable 🍌 hides the type 🍌, not?
well let’s try, shall we
@rightfold damn. is it weekend, yet?
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No.
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It's Friday.
13:06
I'm back foo's
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Went to the bar's?
no bars found
@AndyProwl They are very much the same to be fair. The main reason to use BB over GitHub is free private repos
@LucDanton Okay, it pretty much exactly halved the executable size
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~/Desktop [ cat foo.cpp                                               ] 3:07 pm
int main() {
    auto 🍌  = 42;
    return 0;
}

~/Desktop [ clang++ foo.cpp -std=c++11 -stdlib=libc++                 ] 3:07 pm
foo.cpp:2:10: error: expected unqualified-id
    auto <U+1F34C>  = 42;
         ^
1 error generated.
13:08
Right. Was more interested in compilation time though.
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Heh, apparently clang doesn't like Unicode in its diagnostics.
well, we can't have proper working initializer lists, but at least MSVC supports bananas
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@thecoshman Ok, thank you for the tip
@LucDanton Oh. Sorry, didn’t benchmark that … I can do this but roughly speaking it didn’t feel like there was any difference
@melak47 So jealous.
13:09
well, not much
Okay then.
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@melak47 haha nice
@melak47 lol
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foo.cpp:2:5: error: stray '\360' in program
     auto 🍌  = 42;
     ^
foo.cpp:2:5: error: stray '\237' in program
foo.cpp:2:5: error: stray '\215' in program
foo.cpp:2:5: error: stray '\214' in program
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GCC sucks even more!
13:11
Hmm, is there a guarantee in C++ that "hello" == "hello"?
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@KonradRudolph implementation-defined
the "Locals" window shows the type as ⏴* though :(
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But in practice, pretty much.
@AndyProwl but you don't want a private repo :P
13:12
@thecoshman d'oh! :D
@AndyProwl ¬_¬ you didn't go and set up a private repo after us saying how you should get your code out in the public did you?
does the standard allow unicode identifiers?
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¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬_¬
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@melak47 implementation-defined
@thecoshman lol, no I didn't. I just thought I'd do that
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13:14
But in practice, pretty much not.
2 days ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Combining characters are explicitly disallowed in C++ identifiers. Meaning you may be able to use greater-than-diaeresis, but never less-than-diaeresis.
Otherwise, yes. With the proviso that you can only ever rely on the basic source set characters being present.
@thecoshman Actually, can you upgrade the visibility of a report from private to public, or do you have to clone it?
@LucDanton sweet! I'm gonna use unicode in ALL the identifiers now :)
@melak47 You want to check Annex E in the standard.
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@melak47 And have your code be incompatible with clang and GCC. Congratulations.
13:17
class StopWatch{...}; ? screw that, class ⏱ {...};
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How does code completion deal with that?
@rightfold Wide would complain too. But then again, the Wide compiler isn't production.
@rightfold what do you think
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That it breaks.
13:19
me too :/
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Ik verveel mij/jou.
pijnlijk
nah, it's fine
user image
2
huh
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Does it compile?
13:20
turns out that I only ever implemented default arguments for constructors for C++ types.
@rightfold yes
what does code completion have to do with it compiling
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Nothing.
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Did I say it had to do anything with compiling?
@DeadMG more of that "more broken that I thought it was" goodness? :)
@AndyProwl repo is short for repository, not report. And yes, you can change the visibility of your repo
13:21
@melak47 No, I honestly completely forgot about default arguments.
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Okay.
but a lot of the Clang handling in Wide needs de-duplicating and generally fixing anyway
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Time to write this software.
@thecoshman No idea why I wrote "report"
13:23
ITT: vc++/VS beats gcc, clang at unicode
it also beats clang/gcc at marketing
I guess bananas are easier to market
also at sucking
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GHC beats VC++, GCC and clang at the supported languages.
13:24
o u
I hate it when TAB completion in the terminal no long works because recently new file was created that starts with same letters.
it still works
yeah but not good
@LucDanton Sorry, pet peeve.
I should file a bug on Connect though, "Autos, Locals and Watch windows do not support bananas"
13:26
Completion ambiguities should be resolved by selecting the most frequent.
@StackedCrooked i think you can have the behaviour you want. probably in zsh. And there's !1 and stuff like that
@KonradRudolph Ah bummer. It does help with linking though (what with all the symbols that aren't kept).
@not-sehe What is !1 ?
@LucDanton But using universal-character-names all the ranges specified must be accepted, it seems.
13:27
@LucDanton Oh definitely
Also, GCC, the fully compliant C++11 compiler, does not support universal-character-names in identifiers.
@StackedCrooked something. man bash (I don't use it. It's probably called history expansion)
ccache, ld.gold and visibility options is what I use to preserve my youthful appearance.
@melak47 Bad font, or two squares?
@R.MartinhoFernandes bad font I guess, single square
13:29
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mention that fully-compliant thing every single time
@DeadMG Because it's marketing bullshit (and it not coming from Microsoft annoys me more).
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@StackedCrooked There is a Z shell plug-in that lists most-visited (where a visit is "cd into") directories first.
JBL
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Is there a single compiler that is "fully-compliant" strictly speaking...?
of course not
first, you'd have to actually agree what compliance to the Standard means.
then you'd have to prove that it's compliant for all possible C++ programs, which I think is impossible.
morning fellahs
13:31
@JBL depends on what it is complying with
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@DeadMG you don't have to prove it for it to be compliant.
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You'd simply not know.
@DeadMG The standard includes a definition of compliance.
@rightfold you can't claim compliance if you don't know
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@not-sehe Implying C++ standard.
13:32
Because it's a standard.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Right. What I meant is, you'd have to define how you interpret the wording. Not every phrase has only one unambiguous interpretation.
@DeadMG Any one suffices.
what? no morning Roland?
lol
It's not morning, Roland
@RolandSams We're busy being pedants.
13:33
^
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@RolandSams Good afternoon.
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@DeadMG As long as nobody can really say "You completely misunderstood what the standard says about compliance"..
@BartekBanachewicz Haven't seen that one before. The multiple files option is nice.
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't let me stop you
@JBL I can!
13:34
man
I gotta change my AST and stuff.
it's gonna suck.
god I love programming, so much to learn
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Q: Undeclared identifier and must point to class/struct/union?

Brent MalaluanI got this error when I compile my source: error C2065: 'pWndDayNight' : undeclared identifier (291) : error C2227: left of '->GetCheck' must point to class/struct/union type is ''unknown-type'' (1284) : error C2227: left of '->GetCheck' must point to class/struct/union type is ''unknown-type'' ...

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@not-sehe It comes to the point where I wonder why is there even a standard.
@rightfold Should not. As long as the source code is in some encoding supported by all of them, incompatibilites mean non-compliant behaviour.
(FWIW, GCC claims to support UTF-8 but does not)
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13:36
"You misunderstood" - Every single time.
@JBL From a biological pov, they can always say that.
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@StackedCrooked I mean without being considered an idiot.
@JBL Which is subjective :D
So standard interpretation is subjective!
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But I forgot that everyone is an idiot, so it can't be applied here for obvious reasons
2 mins ago, by JBL
@not-sehe It comes to the point where I wonder why is there even a standard.
13:38
It's better than having no standard.
@Griwes The obvious move is decltype.
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Agree. At least, people have some materials supporting their disagreements.
@DeadMG Needs parens.
oh, right
> 19990105: [an error occurred while processing this directive]
My favourite
13:41
I am looking forward to taking an overview of JQuery, fun
@DeadMG alignof!
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@DeadMG Needs parens.
It's nothing like sizeof?
Nope.
sizeof is the odd man out.
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13:44
> ∞% faster!
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lol @ benchmark
JBL
JBL
Execution time tends to 0?
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> 0µs
@LucDanton unicode failure. nvm
13:54
Any Canadians here?
@RolandSams @EtiennedeMartel is Canadian
@not-TonyTheLion He'll kill you when he hears this.
ahh, cool... Mmm morning coffee
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait? What?
13:56
@not-TonyTheLion He's not Cananananadian. He's Quebebebebebecois.
Fucking hell
That's in Canada last time I checked
@not-TonyTheLion correct
WTF is compl?
@not-TonyTheLion ~ (aka complement)
13:59
Just looking at the mighty book one for MSDN. It really looks powerful.
Should I really attempt to memorize it?/
@StackedCrooked IRTA "prevents my dick from falling asleep"

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