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12:08 AM
Yeah, its kinda a funny problem. So if I have a box of 100 apples there are probably 10 kinds. Would be fun if humans just have similar heuristic built in :-)
 
@Mikhail Yeah, when I was going it, I usually followed that up with some (also rather domain-specific) testing to see if there was noticeable "empty" space between groups (and if there wasn't, try again with fewer groups).
 
12:55 AM
@JerryCoffin I just need it to outperform me, then I can $>python3 DoCaptainsWork.py and have a nice rest.
 
@CaptainGiraffe This is one thing I've emphasized about self-driving cars for a long time. They don't need to be perfect. If they can even come pretty close to matching a human who isn't too tired, distracted, affected by drugs, etc., they can provide a pretty big win overall.
 
@JerryCoffin I wish I was a car.
 
@CaptainGiraffe If I were going to be a car, I'd at least want some sort of composite body. Rust is itchy.
 
@JerryCoffin 100% correct, my exhaust is itching like crazy after just a few fuel enhancement products this evening.
 
@CaptainGiraffe I hate to think what sort of "fuel enhancement products" a giraffe would use.
 
1:03 AM
This new world is inclusive.
Stiletto shoes.
Tall boys.
Garters?
I think chilis was the main culprit though.
My wife didn't like my garter purchase at all!
She was particularly upset that I bought a bespoke garter set that matched the pattern of my own legs.
I thought it was cute.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Sometimes I really worry about you... :-)
 
@JerryCoffin Fortunately this is not one of those times =)
 
@CaptainGiraffe The other times, I move from worried to downright scared...
@CaptainGiraffe Sounds like the beginning of a bad joke: "A polar bear, a giraffe, and a wasp walk into a bar..."
 
@JerryCoffin legendary =)
 
Don't be shy, we have seen that ...
 
1:15 AM
@TelKitty shy?
 
Did something then hide is either out of fear, guilt or shyness, it can't guilt, so most likely it's shyness.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Like "Jerry's a couple cards shy of a full deck", perhaps?
 
@TelKitty Shyness is a strategy employed by most herbivores.
@JerryCoffin I think I have the full deck, but who the hell arranged it?
 
@CaptainGiraffe I think the word you're looking for is "stacked". Who stacked the deck?
 
@JerryCoffin Do we require defense or litigation attorneys?
kk I think I ran out of jokes. Take care.
 
1:52 AM
OCEAN PLAY AREA RULES: No running, no horseplay, no megatsunamis, and no trying to pry the wreck of the Titanic off the bottom.
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12:14 PM
@JerryCoffin 1/10th of 15 hours is 1.5 hours. Triple that is less than 5 hours.
In most developed countries, agriculture + construction + healthcare employ less than 30% of the population.
There are other useful industries of course.
But consider basic needs such as food and housing (agriculture and construction) together only employ some where 15%-20% people. One could not but doubt how efficient 'developed' societies really are?
 
12:49 PM
C++20
C + +20
C + 20
```
error: 'C' was not declared in this scope
```
Get it? Because C is not C++
 
sends one bad pun to bin
 
I'm asking here because I'll code the answer in C++, but I was hoping in a SO-generic chat room (that I can't find).
Are question of the type "I have mathematical problem X, I know generic solution such-and-such (computationally intensive in my case), does a computationally optimal solution exists?" accepted on SO?
 
@Federico ask on meta
 
@Mgetz meta.SO or meta.SE?
 
meta.se what the best place is to ask
my guess is you'll get directed to math.se
 
1:02 PM
k
 
so just ask what the best place for such a question is
 
1:42 PM
what's happening here
 
nwp
We revolt against the patriarchy, obviously.
 
that was a bit sexist
 
nwp
I see your point.
Down with the matriarchy!
 
i thought we're all here to ask questions and later get beaten because of asking a question
 
nwp
Actually most are here to recover from having to do C++ for years.
There is a separate chat for Q&A.
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1:51 PM
Yep, this is an emotional support group for C++ programmers
 
is it better than therapy
 
nwp
A bit of insanity is to be expected, really.
 
do you have those moments when you have single line under if statement and can't decide to put brackets or not
 
nwp
No. Use clang-tidy to add brackets automatically and stop caring about that.
(I wish I actually lived that advice, but integrating stuff is too difficult and seen as a waste of time.)
 
in those moment i go back and forth between patriarchy and matriarchy for some reason
maybe there is a connection
 
nwp
1:59 PM
We need more archies to choose from.
 
2:11 PM
what i really need is a girlfriend
 
nwp
I can help you objectifying her.
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class Girlfriend{} your_girlfriend;
Too bad she is empty inside.
 
that's so kind of you, thank you. Don't worry ill be putting things inside, empty is just fine
class GirldFriend {
void love() { return; }
} gf;
 
nwp
Calling on love returns nothing. Seems legit.
 
Void is a good definition of her kind of love
 
her love seems to be private? Don't you want to friend her first to get access to it? Even if it's empty
 
2:30 PM
good point. OR i could make her fully public
 
 
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3:55 PM
hello
 
 
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5:58 PM
... 👀
 
 
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7:42 PM
Anybody watch any good C++ talks lately? I've been going through CppCon but the talks are pretty long.
 
8:23 PM
Another shower thought. Are constructor arguments passed through the stack, and is a new stack frame made for each base class? So if I have an inheritance hierarchy that is, lets say 5 layers deep, how do we compare the overhead for passing the argument for a POD member verse assigning it in the most derived class?
 
8:38 PM
@Mikhail check godbolt
 
8:53 PM
So it looks like gcc can figure this out on O3 when inlining?
passing the arguments down the inheritance hierarchy feels like cleaner code
 
@Mikhail I prefer to just inherit the constructor if possible
it tells the compiler to just optimize the entire thing
 
I think what I wrote inherits the constructor?
E(const int a) : D(a)
 
see the bottom of that
that said I don't think it would make a difference here
 
@Mgetz It's a little cleaner, but interesting you can't jump down a level in the derivation hierarchy. So
struct E: D
{
    using D::D;
But not fine
struct E: D
{
    using C::C;
` error: 'C' is not a direct base of 'E'`
But what if we could do that?
 
9:11 PM
then you'd have initialization issues on D
 
9:22 PM
I doing a full scan of my computer and I'm 1/20 of the way done and 3 Million files in. Only 18 more hours to go!
 

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