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6:06 PM
@Mysticial Smooth.
 
6:18 PM
@wilx You know, why do we use "pussy" to mean weak? A vagina can have an entire baby go through it and take no damage, while a dick breaks if you sit on it the wrong way.
 
Ell
that's why we use dick to mean terrible :P
we use pussy to mean weak because kittens are very fragile
 
@EtiennedeMartel Take no damage? That is rare. :)
 
@wilx Well the vagina'll heal much more quickly than the dick, that's for sure.
 
nwp
because pussy means female and females are generally physically weaker than males
 
#triggered
 
nwp
6:20 PM
maybe being able to carry a baby has a cost
 
Ell
you're playing right into his hands :P
 
@nwp I also have a problem with that because it assumes strength is a purely physical thing.
 
@nwp Don't get dragged into such stupid argument. Etienne is only flexing his SJW muscles. :)
@EtiennedeMartel If non-physical strength is meant then the strength is qualified as such in the speech or text.
 
nwp
@wilx not really, watching that video has nothing to do with physical strength, and thats what you used pussy for
 
Boom.
 
Ell
6:22 PM
He he
 
nwp
but using expressions figuratively is fairly normal, so you are forgiven
 
Ell
1 hit KO
 
Chat sucks
 
I'd use "weakling" or "Trump fan" instead.
 
Whatever, we are bunch of pussies.
 
Ell
6:24 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lol@"take no damage"
They're usually torn in twain
 
More like we're a bunch of dicks TBH.
 
Ell
At least to some extent
But not uncommon to go from v -> a
 
nwp
@Ell couple of inches
 
@Morwenn Which turn into pussies when they watch nature in action. :)
 
Ell
Excuse the crudeness :P
@nwp tell that to the mother ;)
 
6:25 PM
@EtiennedeMartel "Trump fan" already means "racist". Does the standard even allow this sort of overloading?
 
Ell
@wilx I don't think so
I think it was p mundane to be honest
 
@Ell Wrongthink!
 
@Mysticial Of course.
 
Ell
Compared to reading about humans getting stuck underground of course
 
Also, I am singing along Queen - Who Wants to Live Forever. I hope nobody hears me.
 
6:26 PM
GUESS WHAT GUYS
We're switching to VS2015 next week!
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nwp
@EtiennedeMartel you won the SJW award
aww
 
@EtiennedeMartel OMG!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
 
@nwp Only women can win that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ...or not. What from?
 
@wilx 2012.
 
6:26 PM
Good news then.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Ah, well, that is not such a big jump. :)
 
So I'll finally be able to do actual C++11 and C# 6
 
@EtiennedeMartel I guess based on the context, SFINAE will tell you which is the correct overload to use.
Though I'm sure there will be some ambiguous cases.
 
nwp
when will substituting "racist" for "trump" actually fail?
 
@nwp Is he a racist or is this the "racist" that encompasses everything that the left does not like now?
 
6:28 PM
@nwp Not like that. "Trump" can mean either "racist" or "weak". Which it means depends on context. So you apply SFINAE to try both overloads in the context it is used. The one that makes sense is the correct overload.
 
nwp
I'd say he is just dumb, but I don't follow stuff much
 
But there will be a large number of cases where both overloads are valid.
 
Ell
@nwp well, to some lefties, when they see a black trump supporter
That will cause an ICE
 
@Ell Edit it so that I can start it as whole! :D
 
Ell
I'm on mobile, too much effort :P
 
6:30 PM
Hehe.
 
@wilx Well he gets endorsed by white supremacists and he doesn't really seem to mind.
If racists agree with you, it doesn't mean you're a racist, but it does mean there might be something wrong in your message.
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel what happens if any logical + {x}ist person agrees with that message? :P
 
Ell
Surely this is some kind of paradox
 
Is ^ real?
I mean, then you kinda lost your argument.
@EtiennedeMartel That is stupid as a general statement. :) The thing can be something that virtually everyone agrees on. The fact that somebody you dislike agrees with you does not make you like him or your message wrong.
 
6:36 PM
@wilx No, what I mean is if racists feel like you're on their side, then either you're a racist, or you sound like one.
 
@EtiennedeMartel No. What you just said is stupid in the way I have already described.
 
@wilx But it's not a general statement.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It is.
 
for (;;) sched_yield(); // => ~50% CPU usage. Why not 100%?
I wonder..
 
@StackedCrooked You have 2 cores?
 
6:38 PM
I suppose it relinquishes the CPU until the next interrupt?
 
Okay, so, let me rephrase. If someone, who is a racist, feels like you agree with him on issues of race (I should have mentioned that but I felt like it was obvious since we're talking about racism), then it might mean you sound like a racist.
 
@wilx 4 hardware cores (8 logical)
@wilx I use htop to measure. 100% CPU means 1 core at 100%. (Unlike Windows task manager.)
 
@StackedCrooked I guess that might be it. No idea, actually.
 
No prob :)
 
Ell
I dont actually know what trump has said besides "China"
 
6:42 PM
@EtiennedeMartel You are just moving a goal post there, trying to save your ass. :)
@Ell lol
 
@wilx Not my fault you can't read ;)
 
nwp
@StackedCrooked my htop doesn't show total CPU usage. Are you sure it doesn't switch CPU every yield and has 2 random cores at 50%?
 
But anyway. The Daily Stormer loves Trump.
 
@EtiennedeMartel To the contrary. I read well enough. You cannot articulate clearly! :D
@EtiennedeMartel See above, KKK leaders love Hillary.
 
Man, I guess the US are fucked then.
 
6:45 PM
@nwp I should check that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That is true already, IMHO.
 
@nwp On Linux it does consume 100% CPU. (I was testing on OSX first.)
 
nwp
I had a thought today about politics. We have a nazi party here and I never thought they had a legitimate point and only dumb or evil people or people who hate the establishment would support them. But through discussions I learned that people vote very selfishly, like when they are workers they vote for the workers party, when they are retired they vote for the retirement party.
I was told by family members they don't care about school politics anymore because we have no children at that age in the family. Apparently that is normal and I am the only one surprised at that behavior. By that same logic it makes sense to vote for a racist party when you are a good blond blue-eyed person with no ties to foreigners.
 
@nwp Where is here?
 
nwp
And considering that the religious conservative party that wants more police and more surveillance everywhere is voted into office makes a racist party almost natural.
@wilx germany
 
6:54 PM
I think racist parties exploit anger and fear. People feel like the world is going to shit, they don't know what's going on, but there's a party over there who say "it's the fault of the foreigners!" and that sounds right because, well, it's certainly not your fault and you faintly recall, in your faulty, nostalgia-riddled memory, that things were good before there were any foreigners.
 
nwp
Am I the only one who thinks to vote "responsibly", intending the best for the country/world instead of for me? I am a student and would never vote for a student party, because it just doesn't make sense on a global level even though it would benefit me personally right now.
 
@EtiennedeMartel What you describe is nationalism, not racism.
 
@wilx Right, right. Although it can also apply to racism if you define "foreigner" with "people with a different race". I think it's ultimately the same idea.
 
@EtiennedeMartel FFS, no, it is not. Words have meanings. You cannot just replace one with another like that.
 
What, you can't replace words in order to produce a different text that you feel still holds true?
You know what, your turn. Why do you think people vote for racist parties?
 
7:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I do not know. Because they are stupid? People do all kinds of stupid shit, e.g., like use words wrongly.
 
I found a track I didn't know from an artist I didn't on my computer and it's pretty cool.
 
@Morwenn Post it.
 
@wilx Words change, get used to it.
 
Use Google to identify it?
 
@wilx I can't find it on the internet.
 
7:03 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lol. Not that fast.
 
But hey, at least I'm trying to understand a complex issue.
 
It's Dead Dog by Maison Close.
 
@EtiennedeMartel So am I.
 
Ell
guys
a more important issue is
how do I get wolfram alpha to understand h[x_] = Piecewise[{{1, x >= 0}}, 0], plot h(x-1) + h(x+1)? :(
 
your face
I know, it's so hideous, we need to pay for you to fly to Iran and get that shit fixed
 
Ell
7:05 PM
Why iran of all places? :P
 
BBC says Iranians make great cosmetic surgeons for some reason
 
Ell
@Puppy probably their noses
 
racist.
 
Today, on my way to work by car, I had an idea for a car chase scene.
 
Ell
7:08 PM
@Puppy Not in a bad way
 
there's not really such a thing as racism-but-not-in-a-bad-way
and that was in a bad way anyway.
 
Ell
How was it bad? :V
races have facial structures associated with them
for example large noses
a nose job requires a cosmetic surgeon
iranians tend to have large noses due to their face
therefore are more likely to want a nose job
 
@Ell Why are large noses more worthy of surgery?
 
Some good dude (yes, it must be a dude!) is chasing some bad guys and has car navigation turned on. Wild chase, etc., the navigations keeps navigating and recalculating and given voice direction during the chase. For some reason, I find that hilarious.
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel I think they are considered not as attractive as more subtle noses
 
7:09 PM
@Ell [By whom?] would say Wikipedia.
 
nwp
@Ell asians disagree on that
 
@Ell Racist! :D
 
"Iranians must be great cosmetic surgeons because they have terrible noses" -> "It's totally not racist in a bad way"
 
@wilx Why would a dude need directions?
 
nwp
@EtiennedeMartel he wouldn't, not in a chase, it just happens to be on
 
Ell
7:12 PM
@EtiennedeMartel anecdotal experience, brainwashing by the media
that's all I have vOv
 
@EtiennedeMartel What @nwp said.
 
Ell
@Puppy I never said they had terrible noses, did I?
 
nwp
I vaguely remember a james bond movie that had that, james bond was chasing around and the navigation system kept telling him to turn around
 
@Ell If they aren't, why would their noses lead to them being good cosmetic surgeons?
 
Ell
I said they have larger noses
 
7:13 PM
you didn't explicitly state it but it's very clearly implied.
 
Ell
Hmm okay
 
@nwp Oh. :( I thought I was original. :(
 
Ell
well I don't care tbh
 
that's what makes you a terrible person
 
Ell
It's not my fault I'm not attracted to large noses
 
7:14 PM
@Ell No, it is not racist, IMO.
 
Ell
It's not a choice, so how can it make me a bad person?
 
no, but it sure as hell is your fault for implying that they're so bad that they must nationally specialize in cosmetic surgery to fix them.
 
It's not racist to consider a nose to be ugly without considering how it fits in the face around it. It's just being le dumb.
 
@Ell But it allows for much kinky original ideas :o
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel I agree
 
7:15 PM
Noses are cool, yo.
 
Ell
But when I say large nose, I mean large in proportion to the face
@Puppy it was a joke man
 
yes, a bad racist joke.
 
@wilx yes, that fast
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
 
Yes.
 
Ell
7:17 PM
@wilx they can, but you can do it too
 
it being a joke does not excuse it from being bad and racist.
 
@Ell No.
 
Ell
@Puppy I think the level of racism in the joke warranted the laffs n bants that it produced
 
@Puppy No, it was not racist.
 
Ell
I think we can all agree that
 
7:18 PM
no.
 
Ell
riiiiight
 
the only laffs and bants I see are people, mostly me, accurately pointing out how racist it is.
 
Ell
How racist is it?
Give me a number.
 
it's pretty racist.
 
@Ell Over nine thousand!
 
7:19 PM
racism doesn't have a numerical scale.
 
Ell
We can establish a scale though
 
what, from 0 to UKIP voter?
 
Ell
I think we can agree that racism can be ordered to some extent
so we just need a baseline to call 0
calling all UKIP voters is pretty ignorant imo
And is far worse than saying persians have large noses
 
@Ell That's exactly what a racist would say!
ARREST HIM
 
@Puppy Poop has. Maybe we can make something out of it.
 
Ell
7:21 PM
@Morwenn out of the poop?
@EtiennedeMartel AM I BEING DETAINED?!
 
Wow, hold your horses!
 
@Ell UKIP voters have a choice.
 
#disgusted
 
Ell
@Puppy To have large noses? I don't think so
 
no, to be racist, well, to vote UKIP but are those really two different things
 
Ell
7:22 PM
we agree then
not all UKIP voters are racist
 
I wouldn't say that
 
Without UKIP the UK would be overrun by Polish dragons.
 
I mean, I guess it's theoretically possible for somebody to vote UKIP without being a racist, but I'm not sure if it actually has ever happened
 
@Ell #NotAllUKIPVoters
 
Ell
@Puppy I think that makes you stupid
but w/e
you can think what you want
I no longer want to engage
 
7:25 PM
@Puppy Are you sure? There appears to be some sort of scale. (I did not read it, just skimmed through it.) The Symbolic Racism 2000 Scale - Henry - 2002 - Political Psychology - Wiley Online Library
 
says the guy whose racist terrible nose joke claimed it was not racist
 
@Puppy Is it racist just because you said so?
 
no, it's racist because anybody with a basic understanding of the concept of racism and two neurons can see that it's clearly racist.
 
(Your friendly reminder that you can say or do racist things without being a racist person)
 
I haven't listened to Angra in months. Still great :D
 
nwp
7:30 PM
@wilx I think I thought of this and it is not exactly a navigation system. Maybe your originality is saved.
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel how?
 
@nwp That is similar in spirit. :)
 
@Ell Mostly by not meaning it.
 
> A desire to gain a husband, western looks, or even clients are a few reasons why Iran has the world's highest nose surgery rate
 
7:42 PM
@Ell ^
 
Ell
> Iran has the highest rate of nose surgery in the world
well well
 
> Iran has the highest rate of nose surgery in the world. According to a report in the conservative Etemad newspaper, as many as 200,000 Iranians, mostly women, go to cosmetic surgeons each year to reduce the size of their nose and make the tip point upwards.
 
Ell
is this article racist @Puppy? :P
 
@Ell It must be!
crickets
 
7:58 PM
@orlp nope I was on a holiday
@Ell That's because Khamenei stinks?
@Ell huh. Calling all UKIP voters ignorant?
 
nwp
there are just too many, the bill would be huge
 
@Puppy great. So nothing new
@nwp I don't think we have a treatment that fixes ignorance (we have lobotomy, though)
 
@sehe Reminds me of a scene in a French film, Tais-toi.
> Faudrait construire des asiles de con mais, vous imaginez un peu la taille des bâtiments.
 
Reminds me, it's been a while since I watched Le Dîner de Cons.
 
Ell
@sehe oops. I a word.
I meant, calling all ukip voters racist is ignorant
 
Well. By and large they're more racist than Kofi Anan
It's not ignorant to summarize, IMO
 
Ell
I think I am projecting either my naivety or lack of knowledge of UKIP policies
 
Dutch but self descriptive
 
Not that it matters much, but (*this).func() is more readable as this->func()ringø 10 hours ago
@ringø This is highly debatable... — LukeG 9 hours ago
u w0t
 
8:24 PM
@milleniumbug Ugh.
 
8:45 PM
@milleniumbug ugh...
 
Hello, Cruel World!
@Telkitty just for you --^
 
@Code-Apprentice This is Lounge. We leave the World outside.
 
yah, the world contains nasty things like rain and mosquitoes
 
I am struggling with some twisted code I wanted to write. In short it can be phrased as: Is there any way to know that the current object (*this) is R-value or L-value from inside a class method?
I want to send (*this) to a class that takes Universal Reference and I don't know whether to pass it with std::move in which case (I suppose) it will be an R-value or without in which case it would be an L-value.
 
8:53 PM
@UtkarshBhardwaj Yes. You can code two different version of the method. One with && qualifier and one without.
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A: What is "rvalue reference for *this"?

XeoFirst, "ref-qualifiers for *this" is a just a "marketing statement". The type of *this never changes, see the bottom of this post. It's way easier to understand it with this wording though. Next, the following code chooses the function to be called based on the ref-qualifier of the "implicit obj...

 
Nerd drama is worse than other drama because it is accompanied by a pretense of rationality.
7
Astute.
 
@sehe Heh.
 
@Code-Apprentice I still notice
 
@wilx Thanks checking the question.
 
@sehe Why pretense? :)
@sehe I feel offended!
 
8:56 PM
@sehe Hai!
 
@wilx That's why
 
@sehe shakes fist
 
That's better
 
So, there isn't a way to do this without overloading?
something like std::forward, so that (*this) moves if R-value else goes as l-value?
 
@UtkarshBhardwaj No. This is C++.
 
8:59 PM
:)
 
@sehe You're writing a book? OMG!
 
I hope the proposal the question cites has to do something about that
The title looks like it is.
 
oh...he already wrote one in German and now is translating it to English.
 
@Code-Apprentice Learn to read :)
Why would I write a book on c++
 
because you are a C++ guru passing on your wisdom
 
9:09 PM
just passing on...
 
Ell
I wonder why boost::endian::buffer types only have a const void* data() :S boost.org/doc/libs/1_61_0/libs/endian/doc/buffers.html
 
Me too. Separation of concerns is the only thing that comes to my mind.
 
What do you guys think of this kind of code if (device_handle == nullptr){device_handle.reset(new MTBDevices);//sets a unique_ptr} ?
That way I can initialize in some other class, but the destruction is safe...
 
9:27 PM
For those of you who completely missed the point of our joke, which animal do you feel is pictured above?
This tweetstorm is kinda epic
@Mikhail It's evil! Why are you comparing a unique pointer to a nullptr_t
 
@sehe Somehow MSVC took it
 
But yeah. That's what unique_ptrs are for. They're not unique_value or so. They have reset() for a reason too
 
I don't like the name reset, a better name would be "set"
 
nwp
@Mikhail unique_ptr has an overload to make that work, it is supposed to work
though I would leave out the == nullptr
 
@Mikhail .reset() is very expressive
 
nwp
9:30 PM
but other people say that is terrible, so I don't know
 
two letters too many :-)
 
@Mikhail Of course it will, there's implicit conversions for that. However, there's also contextual conversion to bool
 
You should put it in that German guy's book
 
I find it bad practice to write in books. The only book I wrote in extensively was my bible. Yup. I was that guy once
 
nwp
@sehe I don't think implicit conversion is involved, looks explicit to me
 
9:32 PM
I don't know whats worse, writing on a book or reading a bible :-)
 
@nwp That's not what "explicit" means.
@Mikhail Teehee
 
Ell
wait
I don't know why I thought you wanted to see that
I guess I posted it because that's what explicit means :P
 
nwp
somehow we fail to communicate correctly but I don't really care enough to fix it
 
Ell
bedtime
night all :)
 
10:22 PM
good night
 
10:54 PM
Fuck, I'm too exhausted to go to the gym after 11 hour work days. How to live?
 
11:38 PM
cocaine
 
Hmm, could you sell me some?
 
I'm from Colorado, not Vegas
 
11:54 PM
that is both adorable and hilarious
she sounds like a startled cat at the end
 

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