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12:00 AM
Huh. You're not CptGiraffe :)
 
Lol... you are right! My bad
Been so long I forgot how to chat here. :-)
Night all. Time to leave work. Have a good day/night.
 
Cheers
 
Alright.
sol2 is finally properly on ice
Now I have 2... 3? Projects I can choose from
infoware - library to get system/cpu/gpu information (gpu impl needs work)
gladell - GLSL/HLSL/{X Language} -> SPIRV/D3D Bytecode/GLSL compiler
deep - chat website for web learnin'
 
People can't think to shutoff their goddamn phones ever
 
12:20 AM
Don't they give warnings about that stuff?
 
don't people have courtesy or common sense? And yes, then there are the warnings too
 
His facial expressions are intense.
 
I'm mostly listening. I've learned to watch only after I formed an opinion/interest
 
12:47 AM
Oh, also, almost forgot.
BONNE ST-JEAN
 
@EtiennedeMartel :D
 
1:03 AM
`In CUDA 8.0, some 64-bit integer divisions by zero are converted to 32-bit divisions
to improve performance.`
 
@Mikhail divisions by zero are converted for performances? So you can get NaNs faster???
 
Indeed, although I feel ternary would have been quicker?
Actually these are integer division by zeros, so...
 
1:26 AM
@sehe Why is he sweating
so much
 
@sehe That's nothing
The coughing is extremely distracting
 
1:56 AM
lmao http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-cornwall-issues-plea-for-funding-protection-after-county-overwhelmingly-votes-in-favour-of-a7101311.html
idgits
 
2:13 AM
"Project Fear"
 
2:35 AM
I have no idea what they mean, but my two new favorite insults are "wankpuffin" and "polyester cockwomble" because reasons
 
 
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5:05 AM
 
I had something about debugging that was a eternal loop of putting out fires. But I forget where I got that from
Ah, here it is
Debugging http://t.co/3CWHcT6ndi
 
6:09 AM
This guy pronounces downcast like damn cast.
> template <auto>
Heh, never heard of that one.
@Puppy I wonder if some of the leave voters are wondering whether they made the right choice.
 
6:24 AM
of course there are, they just now started googling what the implications would be
after they were like: "I am a prrroud Brrrrit, leave EU!"
 
If UK is smart then it just waits a bit to let things settle and then kinda ditches the whole leave idea.
Probably not gonna work, lol :)
 
 
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user1804599
7:26 AM
I wonder if YouTube sends diamond play buttons as awards.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked that's first of all not smart because that would mean remaining a member, secondly it would show that not only the EU but also the UK government hates democracy
 
user1804599
Then they could just as well abolish voting completely since they'd ignore the result anyway
 
user1804599
And guess what's the the quality of living is in precisely the countries that do that
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked couldn't disagree less with him; down casts are awful
 
user1804599
Every referendum outcome is a party that should be celebrated.
 
Ell
7:41 AM
@ScarletAmaranth I think its more like after they didn't votr
@ScarletAmaranth I think its more like after they didn't vote
 
@StackedCrooked that is what I predict will happen
 
user1804599
That's why the Swiss celebrate so much.
 
maybe they will brand some negotiation bs as a victory
 
user1804599
You'd get instant civil war.
 
user1804599
> UFO mania
 
> Earth’s ancient magnetic field was significantly different than the present day field, originating from several poles rather than the familiar two.
called it
22 hours ago, by Luc Danton
@Puppy but it’s so full of poles
 
Btw, @JohanLarsson, @AndyProwl yesterday I was thinking of things like this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delegative_democracy
 
I'd also prefer smaller state
current bs is like a wet smelly blanket over all the things
 
@Bassie the government of a constitutional monarchy where non-elected Lords have power equivalent to elected representatives hates democracy? Astonishing.
 
@Shoe agreed. However I tend to have more understanding for coughs than for sheer negligence
Also, the phone killed the most quiet moment in the piece
@orlp Whoa. That's brutal. Where is that from
 
@sehe some cave I presume
 
@sehe I don't. If you are about to die of pneumonia you might as well leave the theatre until then, so you don't ruin it for everybody else
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, nice links. I had seen mentions of 'démocratie continue' before but that kinda led to nowhere, I guess that falls under or is related to the liquid democracy that’s mentioned there
 
@sehe (there's water underneath but it's edited to be black)
 
8:38 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ya know, the illustration reminds me of consensus problems. you’d think political science is hard enough that you wouldn’t want to add a layer of distributed computing on top
 
uhh, i don't get this question/answer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/60830/what-is-wrong-with-using-inline-functions?rq=1

OP states that inline functions don't work when there's a return value, and when there's not a return value. so inline functions never work. nonsensical
 
8:56 AM
@KretabChabawenizc omg Ranik et PA link avec Vizu
@KretabChabawenizc haha lots of [DE] worlds are not being linked because they have high pop
 
@JossieCalderon how would you inline a recursive function? :)
lack of return statement shouldn't hinder inlining though
at least I can't think of a reason
 
9:21 AM
it just unrolls the code n times
i digress...the answer says inline does not work when there's a return value, or when there's not a return value.

functions either have a return value, or don't have a return value.

Therefore, inlining never works, according to that answer.
 
yeah. dunno what he means by that.
might be a typo.
 
Functions always have a return value
 
void youNeedToReadABook(PolishName x){std::cout << x << " needs to read a book."; }
 
Coonsidering that they are plans to make regular values of type void...
 
@StackedCrooked have you finished watching ansatsu btw?
 
9:29 AM
not yet
 
I've just finished the last episode
it was alright vOv
 
What do you mean, Morwenn?
 
@JossieCalderon lol
also wat
 
wat what?
 
@Morwenn link?
or are you not link?
 
I sometimes use void() in expression sfinae. I think the article makes a good point.
 
It's already possible to return void() from a function anyway.
 
Ven
That's a bit different though...
 
@ScarletAmaranth gonna watch it soonish
 
Ven
There's special wording for that. C99 doesn't allow it
 
9:54 AM
I wonder when the UK people realize that 'no freedom of movement' doesn't just mean 'no immigrants', also means 'no holiday without VISA' or 'no moving outside UK without work visa/marriage'
 
10:22 AM
mistakes were made
 
10:37 AM
Every time I was about to ask a question in this room, a few Google searches turns up the answer.
Why can't some people understand that?
 
nwp
maybe they understand that just asking the question is faster than using google and they don't care enough about other people's time or their reputation
 
10:53 AM
polymorphism is so cool
@user997112: But a pointer can change its value so that it holds the address of a different object, possibly of a different class, with a different size. An object however, cannot change to be a different object. It cannot change its own address. — Benjamin Lindley Mar 3 '13 at 18:49
 
@Puppy Want to be better than the average guy? Improve your typing skills
@JossieCalderon Does Google turn up answers for "What annoys you most about C++"? ;)
 
I'm not experienced enough yet to be annoyed about C++.
 
I wrote a Java program in 110 lines. Then I rewrote the same program in Python in 20, and that was using multiple print statements.
 
Java's wayyyyyyyyyy to verbose
 
10:59 AM
Even the most basic tasks require elaborate setup in Java, but that's mostly a problem with the (standard) libraries, not the language.
 
If you need JVM, go Scala all the fucking way
 
"Here today,
Deprecated tomorrow."
 
You mean @Deprecated
Also, checked exceptions are absolute fucking garbage
 
"Its verbosity is actually a blessing and I find it very easy to read well written java code as compared to "well written c++ code". So I have a much easier time reading open source projects in Java over C++ (example, I personally had a much easier time reading java projects like apache mahout and tomcat, over c++ based boost and even with more domain knowledge requirement for the java based projects, I had a much easier time)." lol
 
Ell
11:01 AM
@набиячлэвэлиь the idea is nice
 
I find that statement highly ironic
 
@Ell execution is abhorrent
 
Ell
@JossieCalderon the verbosity does make reading it easier
 
> With great power comes great clusterfuckedness.
 
11:03 AM
@JossieCalderon You can quote by prepending a > and a space, like > Its verbosity is actually a...
 
> like this?
 
Who said that? ;)
 
or > > for greentexting
 
Yes you are.
 
> >tfw you nut but she keep sucking
like zis^
 
11:06 AM
> > what's a greentext?
 
Ell
Its a 4chan thing
 
oh.
See what happens when you don't Google? lol
 
It's like green threads but for memes
 
11:08 AM
4chan is the apotheosis of maturity and netiquette.
 
makes sense
 
The degree of humour over there is akin to Kelvin degrees on a Celcius scale.
 
user1804599
@JossieCalderon That's not because of verbosity but in part because of simplicity.
 
user1804599
Java is much simpler than C++, so you have to take into account much fewer possibilities.
 
It is simpler than C++. I have to think more when writing C++. You're right in that there are more possibilities with C++. There is a lot of abstraction in C++.
 
user1804599
11:18 AM
I want a Java dialect with case-insensitive keywords.
 
So BASIC for the JVM? ;)
 
@StackedCrooked Apparently my implementation of branchless binary search is slower than the branchful one.
 
Haha loser.
 
Guys, I'm a "Certified Professional for Software Architecture" now. Certificate is on its way.
 
11:23 AM
 
nwp
@Morwenn makes me happy
 
@Morwenn By "branchless" do you mean "no conditionals"?
 
@nwp Why? u_u
@fredoverflow Yes.
 
nwp
@Morwenn because it means I don't need to do these silly hacks myself /cc @doug65536
 
How long does it take to hear back after a C++ interview?
 
nwp
11:27 AM
42 hours
 
0.1 months
 
^ Google marked an email containing an image of spam as spam.
 
good job
 
user1804599
omg object-oriented programming in COBOL
 
11:29 AM
spam got meat
 
COOBOOL
 
user1804599
 
Ven
@fredoverflow to each their C++..:)
 
@StackedCrooked I feel like I'm doing it right though, aren't I? :o
 
@Morwenn i don't understand the code. But it does look rather clean :)
 
11:33 AM
I'm a bit sad that it isn't better :(
 
Clever code is almost always a bad idea.
Well, at least you profiled :)
 
I'm slightly surprised. I would think that unpredictable branches are slower than "cmov" stuff.
 
what does the benchmark look like?
 
Good question :)
Thing is though that in production code branches are often more predictable than in "proper" benchmarks.
At least I've made the stupid mistake.
 
@Puppy I reused this benchmark to test fixed-size sorting algorithms. I just changed one of them to sort 8 elements with branchless binary search and just looked at the result for sorting 8 elements.
It's probably flawed anyway since I don't know much about benchmarking.
 
11:41 AM
BRB, I need review how index_sequence works.
 
you're weighting the non-random sequences too much.
 
I only kept the "shuffled" case to test.
 
I finally found a good use case for namespace aliases:
#include <cstdlib>

int main()
{
    namespace br = std;
    br::exit(2016);
}
16
 
lol
 
user1804599
11:52 AM
John Littlees
 
user1804599
WTF, Turkish scum throws stones through windows of Kurds because of Kurdish flag, police tells Kurds to remove flag.
 
user1804599
Instead of protecting them properly.
 
well the Kurds are currently in an armed rebellion against the state if memory serves
 
Dammit I watched a Richard Dawkins movie and now Youtube is recommending tons of them to me.
 
user1804599
It happened in the Netherlands.
 
11:57 AM
oh
well fuck that shit then
@StackedCrooked Youtube can overreact to viewing like one video
 
user1804599
Where the police is bad at protecting citizens (i.e. its job).
 
@Bassie Would you take down your flag?
 
@StackedCrooked Remove it from your viewing history, see if it helps.
 
user1804599
Dat sneaky Rust logo
 
* loGo
 
12:01 PM
How would divine intellect come from niggerlishous GPL code?
wtf
 
user1804599
My flag is the Dutch one. Cozy bright vermilion, white, and cobalt blue.
 
lol
looks like he was hacked
never mind, upon further inspection.
 
Ell
Nope he's just crazy
Well, schizophrenic
And racisy
 
what the hell
 
12:03 PM
Race condition: Terry A. Davis
 
The history section of TempleOS in Wikipedia is most intriguing.
 
@StackedCrooked Not my kind of putin sorry
 
o u
After I first saw the movie about Amélie Poulain I incorrectly remembered it as Amélie Putain.
 
How exactly is life full of bugs and unreadable?
 
nwp
12:08 PM
laws and voting systems could count as buggy and unreadable
 
@StackedCrooked Oh lord that uh... changes the meaning a bit :P
 
@StackedCrooked also it's a bad as fuck movie
 
@ScarletAmaranth badass fuck movie heh?
 
Poor Mercy (I know the pain, I play her quite a bit)
 
12:18 PM
@StackedCrooked I wish
 
@Morwenn nice
 
@Chimera this outsider didn't realise that those were never in question (and they got nothing back yet; and as far as I understand it, your sovereignty weakens if your currency crashes, not the other way around).
Welcome back, though!
I remember you :)
 
@StackedCrooked That album has a lot of interesting tracks :D
 
So far, market plunges are the only thing that actually "happened".
 
user1804599
12:25 PM
Basalt is so cool
 
user1804599
 
And by researching, I got my question answered, knowledge was gained, and frustrations were saved.
off to the gym now lads bai
 
@Puppy how much in bed with financial hubs like The City of London are the Lords? All "money-people" seemed to be for Remain.
 
@ScarletAmaranth We lied and you fell for it. Is basically what he's saying.
 
12:33 PM
@ScarletAmaranth lol, now he says that?
 
this is brilliant
fuck referendum, don't leave, call it a day
 
user1804599
ignore people's opinions; classic europhile
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Very much. Hell, it's practically the definition of the Lords that they are offensively rich people granted life membership for basically no reason.
 
user406009
@ScarletAmaranth Well, there is a petition for a revote: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
 
but there are also a fair few peers who are e.g. ex-elected-politicians
and a few bishops and other random shit
 
12:41 PM
@StackedCrooked Looking at the assembly, it's not obvious why the branchless version is slower: it seems to use a single jump with a jump table while the branchful one jumps all over the place.
 
@Lalaland Never gonna happen.
 
just ignoring the referendum is fine
 
although officially, the government/Parliament must notice the petition, they have no obligation to actually do anything.
 
Ben
What else will Britain really lose from leaving the EU?
 
the only interesting issue about a revote is whether or not the weather in London adversely affected the vote turnout in London and therefore impacted the Remain side badly enough to cause the loss.
which I don't believe it did.
I mean, it could have been like, a fair bit closer, but it would not have caused a Remain win if there was the higher turnout in London.
although in theory it's possible for Parliament in various ways to overturn the result, it's overwhelmingly unlikely.
 
Ben
12:49 PM
oh. They have a lot to lose.
 
yeah, like everything
if Parliament overturned the result there would be rioting in the streets I imagine
I think the problem is that there hasn't been a world war recently enough
 
"problem"
 
Ben
@Puppy or worser things.
 
Xeo
@Puppy Well, there are also people like this, apparently.
 
@Bassie you do realize that, whichever way you go, you'll ignore the opinion of half the voters, right?
 
12:54 PM
@Xeo There's a fairly substantial feeling that a lot of Brexiters just wanted to say fuck the establishment, and didn't really want a Brexit at all.
in which case they've certainly gotten what they wanted because a lot of establishments just got fucked.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Split UK in two, problem solved. Half goes to Scotland, they vote for independence again, and then rejoin the EU!
 
Reunite Ireland and make a new Republic together with Scotland.
 
what surprised me is that Wales also voted to Leave.
 
Republic of Cairc
 
I kinda figured it would be only England that would vote to Leave.
 
12:55 PM
Yeah, me too
 
Scotland and NI voting to Remain didn't surprise me, although I think Leave did better in those areas than expected
 
Xeo
Well, anyways, now that the UK is gone, we can start on the plan to move Japan there.
 
lol
 
Xeo
That way it won't cost so much to go there for vacation.
 
I think that half their plants and animals would die due to the radically different climate here ;p
 
Xeo
12:57 PM
pff
naaah
 
probably get waterlogged
 
Xeo
science will do something, surely
also, no more earthquakes and tsunamis!
that surely should be good enough for them?
 
tis true that basically neither of those things ever happens in England
well sometimes we make social earthquakes like Brexit just for shits and giggles
 
Xeo
yeah, but that doesn't kill thousands of people and rob them of their homes...
wait, we can't be sure of that just yet.
but that is confined to the UK, not its location, so Japan will be fine
> I wish I could lose pounds as fast as the UK
11
lol
 
lol
@Xeo I was gonna say, not to be overly dramatic, but I wouldn't be so sure about that.
 
1:04 PM
@Puppy just need some German "Gavrilo Princip" to shoot the Queen.
 
personally when thinking about these issues I always think of the cancer drugs fund
@R.MartinhoFernandes She's too ceremonial; we'd just massacre the murderer and move on
 
Let's begin!!!! #Euros2016
Said the no longer european british guy :P
 
technically I think we are still European until after the exit is finalized
 
You're forever European because you're in Europe
 
I spoke too soon. Now raining, vista is monochrome, and one of the clouds looks like Nigel Farage's face.
haha dis guy
well shit, i have to reset a bunch of move only types "in order" =/
 
I could new the lot of them but that feels ugly
 
you feel ugly
 
1:38 PM
back now with obligations out the way i can program all day
 
2:08 PM
Solved it using an extra loop and a scope. <3 destructors
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
LGTM
 
2:32 PM
guess they realized the effects will be long-term rather than immediate
 
Ell
Misread nvm
 
2:50 PM
what?
 
3:21 PM
I'm sure there are plenty more examples of what this fucking Referendum has spawned and legitimised. #Brexshit https://t.co/d29Db4yHEb
jeez :(
 
Ven
:|
 
3:50 PM
@Borgleader That's what happens when the racists start thinking that everyone else thinks like them. It emboldens them to act in public like that.
 
Is there a C room on chat.SO? I couldn't find one
 
Yes
 
@Borgleader :(
 
@HWalters could you give me a link then?
 
It was really easy to find from the room list... was on page 2 though
 
3:58 PM
Where's the room?
 
If you go to the room list (bottom of so, chat), then click on page 2, you should see the room. It's just called "C". I'd much rather tell you how to find rooms than give you a direct link as I don't want to become a room directory.
 
@HWalters The room called C has a description which tells it is about "Control". I already saw that. Are you sure thats about C?
 
C people like to think they're in control... there's only one way to find out
 
thanks Hot Network Questions
curiosity always satisfied
2
Q: Does Aqua wear panties?

Zange-chan The goddess Aqua, who meets Kazuma after his terrible death. The question is, does Aqua wear panties? If there is, G-strings? Is there any mentions about these in the novel?

 
Ven
4:01 PM
@milleniumbug wtf lol
 
@HWalters I already posted a message in that room. But it is inactive. Anyways, even if it is about c, it is inactive so I will have to wait. Thanks for helping!
 
Just add £ in any line. The system will fail to compile, the code line can not be changed. The company is out of bussiness and the printf will never ever be executed again.... (I chose £ on purpose, becuse it is going to be an obsolete character soon... 8-[ ) — BmyGuest yesterday
 
GCC 6.1 came before GCC 5.4, and I'm confused as to get 5.4 (which is the most recent) or 6.1 (which has the higher version #).
 
5.4 has bug fixes to 5.x and 6.1 has new features.
I'll just go with 5.4.
 
4:09 PM
I don't understand the confusion... you want someone else to decide for you?
 
there's no reason these fixes can't be applied to 6.x line you know
also changelogs are a thing
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah I know. It just always makes me sad when I'm reminded they still exist.
 
4:24 PM
hmm
I need some new games
any suggestions?
 
Xeo
Rabi-Ribi
 
A) What genres do you like?
B) What did you play recently?
 
fps, rts, rpg are the most common
 
"Hell hath no fury like a fanboy mildly inconvenienced."
 
as for recently, ksp sc2 and cs:go
 
4:31 PM
watch @Borgleader suggest Overwatch
 
@ScarletAmaranth Nah he knows about OW.
 
fuck Overwatch tremendously
 
@Puppy have you played the latest Deus Ex?
 
In the RPG category, Witcher 3 was just so good (although you might want to play W2 first). Thos are the only "recent" games I've played. Otherwise Ive been playing Kingdoms of Amlaru, but I cant say I recommend it.
 
yep.
 
4:33 PM
@Borgleader why not? tilted camera?
Kingdoms of Amalur is excellent
 
idk, i dont like the combat much, not responsive enough to my liking. Also "ambushes" from mobs are far too frequent.
its annoying. story is ok though, although it does push the "you have to save the world" cliché a bit hard
 
I love the combat system there, and what they do with camera, particularly with chakrams
 
lol
 
Started playing Stardew Valley recently. It's super slow paced, but kinda relaxing.
Didn't know watering plants for hours could be so engrossing
 
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