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2:03 PM
A heart massage through layers upon layers of metal armor
Yep, gonna werk
 
Morning everybody
 
Raises eyebrow
 
> Days without MSVC ICEs: 0
lol
 
@Borgleader I'm thinking of making the source of Furrovine public. Do you think I should wait until before or after I finish the OpenGL port?
 
R.I.P.
 
2:09 PM
@ElimGarak lol
 
@ThePhD you were thinking about that like a year ago too! :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth Hihi.
How goes the land of CG?
Still raytracing things with C++AMP?
 
support for AMP seems to have vanished from Earth
currently working on some DX12 raytracing
 
Whoa.
Really?
I thought there was a huge cross-platform push for C++AMP?
 
they ahven't said anything at all
but all progress seems to be... gone
I don't understand vOv
you can still compile AMP in vs2015, but it hasn't changed for a year now
 
2:12 PM
@ThePhD yes
 
their blog has been dusty as well
 
Maybe they think DX12 / Vulkan will replace it and they're working on that.
 
I wouldn't know; I really enjoyed using AMP, it doesn't carry any of the shit C stuff like CUDA does
 
> cannot specialize a function within class scope
whose idea was this
 
guys
the google doc sheet is ded?
 
2:21 PM
Is it?
 
you're not on it @ElimGarak?
 
Nope, I just clicked to see if it werked!
 
I mean nobody's adding stuff or voting
Are you gonna jam Elim?
 
Nah, got a lot on my plate these days. But I'm gonna try out all the stuffs you guys produce. :D
 
2:24 PM
cool :)
 
Did you guys settle on a theme(s)?
 
they're gonna be revealed right before the thing
 
curtains rising and all
 
@TonyTheLion Ugh... And of course, I'm unable to reproduce it locally.
 
lol cosh ☠
 
2:29 PM
@Mysticial Ugh? because its a bad question or because you can't repro?
 
@TonyTheLion I can't repro. Otherwise, it's a good question.
 
@Mysticial Sucks you can't repro
 
shitty answer on that question
 
Roses are red
Violets are blue
C++ is shit
And SQL doesn't cut it
 
Somebody should use MAN IN SUIT LEVITATING as their voting token
 
2:30 PM
@ThePhD I dont think it matters much, but if it bothers you that the OpenGL support is unfinished, might as well wait for it to be done.
 
@ElimGarak you on Mint now?
 
@TonyTheLion I can explain the parallelized timings, but not the sequential ones.
 
@sehe Trying out multiple stuffs, first Kubuntu, now will try Mint.
 
@Funkyguy Hi to you too
 
@набиячлевэлиь it doesn't render here.
 
2:31 PM
@Mysticial hmmm interesting
 
@ElimGarak Oh. I was guessing because I has been my experience that apt-get is inexplicably slower on Mint
 
@Mr.kbok here as in your font or GDocs?
 
Now I won't try Mint. :D
 
...now I need class instance local function local static thread local variables :X
 
@набиячлевэлиь my font in gdocs
 
2:33 PM
<3
 
@Mr.kbok Font support for MAN IN SUIT LEVITATING is kinda lame, especially on normal OSes
for shame
 
poets are dead
and that is still true
2
 
@ScottW Roses come in all colors and flavors.
Why are you only defending violets?
 
Roses are colorfluid.
 
Why are you discriminating roses?
 
2:34 PM
Roses are red
Violets are blue
My poetry is terribru
3
 
err
No.
 
Public Morals seems to be a good show.
 
You are not helping me with my insane problems.
 
It's not the problems
 
2:35 PM
@Griwes I'm sorry C++ got the sane parts of you
 
My solutions to problems seem to be generating more problem than they are solving.
@TonyTheLion I'm just trying to write a memory allocator :(
 
@Griwes Bad solutions
 
@TonyTheLion you have so much rep, but do you know how is pointar formed in brainfuck?
 
@TonyTheLion no kidding :O
 
Apparently, telling a murderer you will not snitch is a bad call.
 
2:36 PM
@Griwes whyyyy
 
@набиячлевэлиь I'm ignorant, stupid and I know nothing
 
@unordered_meow Because my kernel will need a malloc once I start rebuilding its approach to memory.
 
@TonyTheLion Does anyone know how is pointar formed in brainfuck?
 
@набиячлевэлиь I'm sure @Nooble knows
 
oookaaaaaaay
 
2:37 PM
Where is he?
@unordered_meow When can we order you?
It annoys me you're unordered
 
@набиячлевэлиь It'll come when you find inner peace
 
@ScottW that makes me sad
 
@TonyTheLion not on mumbel nor on skyep
 
@TonyTheLion you can't order my meows
 
@unordered_meow rip me
 
2:38 PM
can we order you to meow
 
you can order me a pizza
 
ok I dropped a table in mssql and now trying to create table with same name gives me "table already exists" WHY???
 
@набиячлевэлиь I used ⚜
 
do I need to delete it somewhere else?
 
@Mr.kbok Nice one!
 
2:40 PM
I used to drop database altogether in these cases
and then fill it again
 
@unordered_meow rip my efforts
 
@набиячлевэлиь you can use ☭
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, that was a simple student project database so I could afford it
 
@unordered_meow luckily my db is still empty
 
2:42 PM
in all seriousness, examine the information_schema or with the SQL management studio check if there are any tables
 
> Microspeak: move the needle
Quick, before you google the article, what do you all think that analogy refers to (in management-speak)?
 
pay cuts
 
lol
more like: wielding the machete then
 
budget cut/rise
 
user406009
@sehe Was it pay cuts?
 
2:43 PM
o.O
You guys are sour
I'm appalled you guys made it to be even more negative
 
@sehe Destroy all human life on earth
 
That doesn't count. Pathetic hyperbole not rewarded
 
Kill all polar bears
hides
 
user406009
@sehe I thought it was like moving the needle on the scale. Trimming the fat, etc, etc.
 
Yeah. Well. You can see the article basically buys into that
@набиячлевэлиь You are one lazy underachiever
 
2:49 PM
is there a way to use typeof(this) is a member function inline definition?
 
typeof?
 
I'm using a typedef myt_ but I'd like to not having to do it
macro magic welcome
@unordered_meow struct a { static void thing(a &obj) {} };
 
decltype...?
 
C++03
 
Oh.
Typedef or die.
gcc has typeof
 
2:52 PM
shit
 
Good morning.
 
if typeof works like decltype, then you can backport std::remove_reference
 
@Nooble :D
 
I see @ThePhD is here :)
 
oh wait it's a static member function
fuuuuuuu
 
2:54 PM
@TonyTheLion Shhhhh.
 
i'm doing typedef [thisclass] myt_; butt the boilerplate is annoying
 
@Nooble mumbel or bust
 
Get on my level: let's increase global entropy!
let's thwart world peace!
let's burn out the sun!
Bumble Musk
 
@sehe didn't know Mint was Biedan-based
(yes this message is only there for the pun)
 
It's Badass-dazed
 
2:57 PM
@Mr.kbok Make a CRTP mixin that does it for you!
 
@Nooble :)
 
@Griwes yes, but there's still boilerplate
: private stags::myt_base<tn>
It's actually what I'm doing atm.
 
Come on can I get 1 star on Biedan
 
What did you expect to do to improve things?
@набиячлевэлиь what for?
 
@набиячлевэлиь idgi
 
2:59 PM
@sehe Biedan
Works only in Polish, though
 
this is what I could do if the function was non static
if it's static, I think you're screwed, even if you were using C++11 or C++14
 
@набиячлевэлиь polish on it then
 
Whenever i eat bad food i pretend like am #chef @GordonRamsay and scream "it's fucking raw!!!!" #MyWeirdSecret
 
@sehe painful grunt
 
3:04 PM
@набиячлевэлиь why can't we .js use gulp?
 
@sehe fires PPSz in head
 
@TonyTheLion That's indeed weird if it's secret
@набиячлевэлиь I'd fire bullets instead
 
@sehe In a member function, you could use typeof(this)
 
@sehe Well a PPSz is more efficient at killing people
It explodes their heads instead of making holes in 'em
 
oh wait you don't :)
 
3:06 PM
@Mr.kbok true. Not sure why relevant
 
And is probably good to use afterwards
 
I think you missed it
The point
 
@sehe where is it now
 
@AndrewPeters wow. It does not suggest that. And thanks for pre-empting anyone considering to help you (because you'll just go on and on)
@Mr.kbok It's unhurt
 
3:13 PM
@набиячлевэлиь It's an Ubuntu derivative
Also you suck
 
@CatPlusPlus I know that
 
@Borgleader Actually, Oxide was warned against async compute on Nvidia hardware early on. Also, Intel hardware is not particularly good at it.
The whole vendor specific bias is a bit weird, though. Async compute and ExecuteIndirect have been introduced fairly late.
One can do good even without async compute, but they decided to go the easy way (assume everyone's got it).
 
Intel hardware is not particularly good at anything
 
3:19 PM
I said that once. The Intel guy got upset over it.
 
@Mr.kbok awesome. Now, why is this handy/required?
shared_ptr again — sehe 10 secs ago
I'm getting more brief
 
Not only Oxide Games, I believe also uhm... RedLynx? And Futuremark guys. Using it on non-natively supporting hardware is shooting yourself in the foot.
 
@ElimGarak lol, but it has been getting better in recent years ISTR
 
@Borgleader Indeed, it does fare good nowadays, even better with Haswell+ hardware that supports the new APIs.
Even though I generally use Nvidia hardware, I am glad Nvidia is getting a kick in the groin.
@NVIDIAGeForce @nvidia tread lightly. @OxideGames.
 
3:38 PM
@ElimGarak Same, they need the competition.
 
Fucking
 
AMD AMD AMD
 
holy fucking shit
 
The higher the shitstorm, the sooner we'll see an answer to the Fury X. Also, the tweet is from the CEO of Stardock. Which use Oxide Games' tech.
 
@ThePhD Yes?
 
3:40 PM
I've been pre-empted.
So after a grueling head-over-heels battle against University to get back in, they did two things.
One: deny me all of my housing accomodations for the year, which I just finished repealing and fixing.
Two: slap me with a Satisfactory Academic Progress violation that would deny me the ability to receive Financial Aid from the Federal Government for attending school for being dirt-poor.
In order to prevent #2 from happening, I am receiving credits for the classes I took while I was not in University and the transfer credits I had are FINALLY being applied to my account this week. This would put me over the limit for attending school.
The last part would be to finish the one class I could not finish because I was academically suspended: i.e., take the final exam of that class and receive my good grade in it (I had missed it for medical reasons and was given a grade of I: Incomplete).
 
You're still doing that stuff
 
If I do not finish this Incomplete grade, I will be BELOW the threshold for making Satisfactory Academic Progress. So, of course I'm going to finish it when I get back to school.
 
Uni stuff
 
However, my advisor just backstabbed me: he got a hold of the Professor before I did and convinced the Professor to assign me a grade of Unofficial Withdrawal instead (literally, right now, as we speak they just did this).
UW's count AGAINST you when they're counting credits for SAP.
 
lawl, school systems.
 
3:46 PM
The deadline for the SAP appeal is in 10 days. I've just been set up to be fucked and I can't reach the Professor.
 
As protest, I would advise you to lowercase the P.
 
P on the P
p much
 
V to the A to the D-E-R. We constructed the Death Star. And I'm on YouTube.
Also, according to Nvidia propaganda documents, they may be liable for their async compute bullshit.
Would be so gratifying if someone slapped them with a fat lawsuit.
 
--enable-default-pie sounds like a tasty compiler option.
 
Black magic (Warning: your browser might choke)
 
3:53 PM
Works fine here.
 
@ThePhD go to his house and have tea with him
 
@ʞɔᴉN He lives in another fucking state.
Sometimes.
The other times, he's in other countries.
 
well
it'll help show your dedication
 
@Borgleader yes
 

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