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8:00 PM
@Blob What is this "I have no limit" you're not buying this using your own money are ya?
 
hopefully around $400-$600 during black friday
@Cinch i don't have a job.
 
@Blob So obviously you're using parents'
 
@Cinch yes.
 
"I have no limlt" && "parents' money" something doesn't compute here.
 
I'd like to bring to your attention that using suggestive pictures of females as references is controversial, especially considering you've chosen to exclusively use pictures of women. It's alienating to female developers. Consider how you'd react if all reference pictures were suggestive male models. — orlp 53 secs ago
 
8:01 PM
i don't have a strict limit. generally i want to stay below $700 and preferably be in the $500 or $600 range.
 
I hope I'm not going full tumblr here
 
@orlp i disagree. they're not very suggestive
the pictures are pretty hideous
 
@orlp That's "attractive?"
@Blob Buy a laptop?
I have a Lenovo right now and I'm pretty set for 4 years of college.
 
@Cinch i want performance out of it. my current laptop cost me $750 and it's weak.
 
Oh no, lenovo
Removed superfish cert yet?
Wait, that's only new laptops
 
8:04 PM
dat edit doe
Why don't you just find something with an i7 and a good graphics card and you're good.
Or have the tower be slottable with a card.
 
He doesn't need an i7.
 
@Nooble He says "performance" and I believe he said it's for games yesterday
 
You don't need an i7 for games.
 
@Blob the bottom one is literally a cutout from playboy
 
Why would he need multi-threading?
 
8:04 PM
@Nooble cough cough planetside2
 
v0v
 
@Cinch runs perfectly fine on my i5
no one here except maybe mysticial needs in i7
 
@orlp at super low settings and a nice graphics card, okay.
 
@Cinch full settings
 
@orlp maybe they improved, idk
 
8:05 PM
no graphics card is probably why my gaming experience sucks
 
@Cinch I don't think you understand what the difference between i5 and i7 is
 
@Blob WELL DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
here's the difference: hyperthreading
that's what you shell out $100 extra for
 
the thing nooble picked is 3x as expensive as the cpu
 
@Blob well duh it's a graphics card.
 
8:06 PM
@orlp WTF? I hope you are just trolling.
 
GPU > CPU when it comes to gamer's point of view
 
@wilx I'm not
here's a flowchart about whether or not you need hyperthreading: you don't
 
JFC...
 
Sigh.
Whatever I have an i7 and a gaming GPU for $1000 so I'm happy
You can probably get the same for about at least 3/4 of that.
 
@Cinch "an i7" is a useless measure
 
8:08 PM
@orlp idk what it does and idc anyways
 
@Cinch GPU itself is $1000 or whole computer?
 
@Blob whole computer.
 
@Cinch if you don't know shit then how can you claim an i5 can only run planetside on low settings?
you're talking out of your ass
 
Hello friends.
 
@orlp Because I can't run PlanetSide 2 on high.
@Rapptz Who says we're all friends.
 
8:08 PM
@Rapptz greeting darkness my old friend
 
@Rapptz What if I want to be... more?...
 
@Rapptz sup
@Cinch get out then
 
@Cinch Some PC you have m8.
 
Planetside tells you if it's CPU or GPU bound
 
@Rapptz Piece of Crap ;)
 
8:10 PM
@Rapptz yeah idk what is the problem it's just I haven't played in a while and they did a lot of optimization before so things probably have changed.
 
I can't run planetside 2 at any setting
it's unplayable
 
@Blob I couldn't even play on my old computer
 
Who knows anything about ranking systems?
e.g. Elo, Glicko, Glicko-2, what ever else.
 
I know they exist
 
@Rapptz Ranking_system system;
 
8:10 PM
i know Elo starts at 1k
 
Bjarne_case is not allowed here.
 
@Blob Nope
 
I know that Elo is one letter away from Elon and another word away from Elon Musk.
 
@Columbo 10k?
how about
 
@Blob Is that even generally bounded? Anyway, chess-ELOs start at 500
 
8:11 PM
I know Elo starts non-zero
 
FIDE
 
Holy fuck I'm looking my college transcript and it's a train wreck.
 
@sehe Federal Institution of Desoriented E-coli
 
Elo sucks.
 
@Rapptz Nonsense.
 
8:13 PM
Sense.
Elo doesn't decay based on time and encourages camping of rank.
 
@Rapptz So what's the problem with that
 
Everything.
 
If you have been good at chess once, why would you not be allowed to retain that reputation
 
@Rapptz you must be really into smash.
 
8:13 PM
Who said anything about Chess?
 
@Columbo I can't really agree with that. Not all competitive sports are like that. Bars are raised and metas change.
 
Correct.
 
A world champion in 1960 is not the same in 2000.
 
It doesn't solve the issue.
I've already tried Elo.
Hence my opinion.
 
Wait, why are wiki links shown like that
 
8:15 PM
I tried adding in a decay factor myself to no avail.
 
@Rapptz Why does rating mean so much
 
Good morning. Did you sleep well.
For the last 2 years?
 
@Rapptz: What are you ranking?
 
Video games.
 
@wilx rating system for SSB
 
8:15 PM
@sehe ?
 
@Cinch SSB?
 
@wilx Super Smash Bros.
 
@Columbo Oneboxing has been around for. Ever. It's being done every six minutes
 
@sehe What's that#
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Why not just create a point system based on tournaments and then weight the tournament matches?
 
8:16 PM
Oh look it's nobot
 
@Cinch I started out this way but it proved to be an insufficient way of seeding.
 
@Rapptz You must be "really" into SSB
Are you like a director or something?
 
No, I'm a tournament organiser.
 
@Rapptz Yeah, that.
 
Why does this matter?
 
8:18 PM
@Rapptz Nothing.
Um well maybe you should reconstruct from the ground up
i.e. what do you want out of a system
then weight your desires
and then match it to an existing system
i.e.
Activity, performance, matchups, tournament, meta, etc.
 
The history of ranking for me so far was a shoddy point system, then my own ranking system, and then Elo.
 
@Rapptz Yeah, but what do you want out of it?
 
and now I'm back to the drawing board.
@Cinch A ranking system similar to Elo except it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game (e.g. I gain +22 and you lose -22) that decays based on time and somehow discourages camping the top ~5. My attempts at fighting the latter have been somewhat okay though so I'm not too worried.
 
@Rapptz Do you want it based on points or something else?
 
Doesn't really matter as long as there's a sufficient way to rank them.
 
8:22 PM
@Rapptz Well League's system I would argue is better for competitive than their former ELO
 
Anyone good with traits and incomplete types? stackoverflow.com/q/29065760/819272
 
You know it has a container_type right?
Just do value_type of the container_type.
 
@Rapptz Can you explain this to me?
I don't understand what is going on here and I'm on the C++ reference page and I'm pretty lost
 
@wilx Look around you. The technology world is absolutely dominated by men. I do not believe that men are intrinsically better or more interested in tech. The only other possible conclusion is that something is terribly wrong. I don't believe that most men are consciously disparaging women either. I think that the main problem is that subconsciously sexism is everywhere. It could be something as innocent as only choosing females as reference images. I think it's important to track it down and make people aware. — orlp 1 min ago
This is bullshit, @orlp.
 
@wilx care to come with arguments why it's bullshit?
 
8:26 PM
@Rapptz oh fuck me sideways, completely overlooked that type
 
First, yes, men are more interested in tech in general. Obviously.
 
Also isn't using A = B; the same as typedef A B?
 
@wilx The fact that you find it obvious that men are more interested in tech shows your clear sexism.
 
@wilx Because "tech" is not "feminine"
Supposedly.
Media has ingrained into us that women in "geeky tech" is not common because they never show that.
 
@Cinch I am not saying anything about the cause. Just that it is obvious from real life and from statistics that women are less interested in tech.
 
8:27 PM
@wilx Because we're all conditioned to be that way by media and society.
 
@Cinch using A = B; is typedef B A, when B is a type. Also, using works with templates
 
If suddenly all the TV shows had techy women, they'd be more likely to enter into tech because they have role models on TV and media.
 
@TemplateRex I posted it as an answer because why not.
 
@milleniumbug Oh, so using is typedef for regular + templates.
 
@Cinch Also, typedef is older, and using is C++11
 
8:29 PM
@milleniumbug I know that I just looked that up
 
@райтфолд Seems like everyone and their dog targets the JVM these days...
 
@FredOverflow JVM ------> OpenCL?
 
@wilx I'm not delusional, I'm not claiming that there are many adult women interested in tech that are not pursuing that interest.
 
Hm.....
 
@Cinch That is BS. Women are simply wired differently. I am not saying there aren't women that could do tech. I am just saying that women simply choose to do stuff like medicine, psychology, teaching, etc., instead of tech.
 
8:29 PM
JVM ON OpenCL!
 
@райтфолд Enums enumerate objects, not types.
 
@wilx That's not because they're wired differently.
 
@wilx Nope. Sorry. People are different but that doesn't stop us.
 
That's because of social conditioning.
 
@orlp +1
 
8:30 PM
Because of the inherent subconscious sexism.
The conditioning.
That's the exact problem I'm trying to make people aware of.
 
@orlp I wouldn't demonize it as sexism. It makes it seem malevolent.
It's just how society has conditioned us.
You can't really "blame" anyone, we've just been socially goaded like sheep.
 
@orlp lmao
 
And the sheep follow the shepherd of media.
Simple as that.
This is also how "gay fags" has turned into "accepted homosexuality" in less than half a century
 
@orlp Both you and @Cinch are worst sexists of all. You are both refusing to admit that women do something on their own. Instead, you remove the agency from the women and try blame outside influence solely.
 
@wilx But you see, people internalize what's given to them on the outside.
 
8:32 PM
@Rapptz thanks
 
It's not all them but it's also them too
The "blame" is never put on somebody or some cause 100%.
 
Why does this topic always come up
God damn guys.
 
Geebus, brainwashed SJW in Lounge...OMG!
 
People decide what to do with the cards given to them.
 
@TemplateRex No problem :p
 
8:33 PM
i.e. If a parent goes crazy, is part of it the children's fault? Yes, but no.
 
@wilx You're trying really hard to demonize our view, that goes even beyond my imagination lol
 
Not this shit again
 
yes because everything has affected the parent due to external stimuli being stimulation to the parent's mental state. no because the kid is a kid and has no responsibility for the parent unless it was some weird reverse abuse case.
 
I don't see a problem. Those interested in STEM fields do it and those who aren't don't want to do it (for whatever reason, be it internal or society).
 
@Blob There is no problem unless you decide it is a problem:
 
8:34 PM
@sehe it took me quite a while to realize that back_inserter had void as its value_type, I had been wading through the proverbial template error novel with "no overload for == taking void and int" from some standard algorithm that did it != last
 
"Nothing is good or bad; only thinking it makes it so" or something
~ William Shakespeare
 
then why this argument
 
@TemplateRex If it was up to me I'd just write a trait that does some SFINAE to fix some of the loopholes.
 
What about asking women if this is sexist?
 
8:35 PM
@Blob Because human beings are inclined to think in certain ways because of biology and additional constructs such as society and media.
@milleniumbug Does it matter what they think? It's what they do is the real "problem."
The "problem" being a lack of proportion.
 
@TemplateRex Is that explicitly specified, or does it happen to be the default-detected type of *declval<It>()?
 
I.e. murder is not inherently wrong but is colored "wrong" by pain and social disparity caused to social constructs. Also, religion.
Also I believe that things are inherently wrong and good according to a pre-defined order in the universe by a higher power/order but that's pretty complex. So to conclude, if women not being in CS is a problem, then just manipulate society to push women into CS if that is your goal.
 
it is really bad in generic code, because OutputIterator is not always equal to back_insert_iterator, it could be a raw pointer and then value_type is what you expect
 
@TemplateRex God. Why. Removing answer
 
8:38 PM
@sehe Standards Defect :)
 
For some reason I believe the stdlib requires output iterators to have void as value_type.
 
@TemplateRex Precisely. This is what I meant:
> You can't do much more than hack it using inside knowledge of the output iterator (e.g. using the inner typedefs like container_type). IMO this hampers generic programming quite a bit. I wonder how other libraries solved this when it came up (if ever)?
 
And how do you manipulate society? Education and media.
 
Not so much of a defect but "as design".
 
@Rapptz Duh. We just established that.
 
8:38 PM
@orlp @orlp, you have done the same "mistake" (no, I do not think it is a mistake, but other SJWs like j*lf will crucify (or try to) you for this) assuming the OP is a man. Or would it be OK to use female photos if the OP was female?
 
Or you know, trauma or some sort of large event that has similar impact to the Holocaust or the Vietnam war protests
Which should be morally out of the question but we're being objective here
 
@Rapptz I don't think they do this kind of weaseling. Although indeed "fixing" the defect would break existing code, so they won't
 
You pretty much have to write your own xstd::iterator_traits that you specialize for back_insert_iterator (and the other inserters)
 
@wilx Did you even look at my argument?
 
8:39 PM
@orlp: You are also daemonising completely innocent photos.
 
Sheesh.
 
C++17 would be a good time to push these changes out since they're already breaking backwards compat there.
 
@Rapptz Why do they keep changing things.
 
Because languages evolve.
 
@TemplateRex yup.
 
8:40 PM
@Rapptz Sure they do, but it makes it harder to keep up
 
@wilx I actually checked whether op was male. But it wouldn't have mattered much anyway
 
Think of the cost in stamina
The cost of time and energy required to keep up with constant updates
the heartache of learning more and more to do the same things + a little more
 
@Cinch BS. Also higher power, lol. You have just discredited any further argument.
 
'constant updates'
 
@wilx Seems like you haven't done research into paranormal.
 
8:41 PM
C++98 to C++11 took a long time.
 
@sehe it's pretty annoying, I can't remember having tripped up over such a banal issue in a long time
 
@Rapptz I totally agreed with that.
 
This argument as stopped being one.
let's stop it now
 
But '14 and '17 is pretty... quick in comparison.
@Blob What grammar is this.
 
Anyone know what --strip-unneeded does to a shared library? I don't really have a good grasp of binaries.
 
8:42 PM
By design.
 
C++ moves at glacial pace compared to other languages.
 
@wilx And it's often you bringing it up (or picking it out). Go figure.
 
@Cinch what's wrong with it?
 
@CatPlusPlus Which can be good, y aknow.
 
Not really
 
8:42 PM
@Cinch lol
 
@TemplateRex Me neither :(
 
@Blob "this argument as stopped being one"
 
Maybe if it was already up to modern standards
And by modern I mean 1970
 
@Cinch "this argument has stopped being an argument" is unnecessarily more effort.
 
@wilx Empirically there are a large number of "paranormal" occurrences that occur from the beginning of human history to now.
 
8:43 PM
@sehe Sorry, for not letting BS just pass by unnoticed.
 
@TemplateRex @sehe I found this sort of related.
 
@Rapptz Is there a defect report, though? /cc @TemplateRex
 
While they may not be true it has been a large part of our history and is worthy of examination.
 
@Cinch You are completely delusional.
 
@wilx haha. You mean, unsavored
@wilx You can go now
 
8:43 PM
Continuous examination is required to determine whether paranormal activities should be taken as true or false
 
It seems that the stdlib is inconsistent with their requirements lol.
 
Much research has been devoted, but there has been no end-all conclusion
 
Go figure.
 
> Paranormal: denoting events or phenomena such as telekinesis or clairvoyance that are beyond the scope of normal scientific understanding.
 
Therefore more research and time needs to be devoted before a final answer can be decided.
 
8:44 PM
@Rapptz Yeah, I guess back_insert_iterator is not an iterator?
 
How the fuck did you get from that idiotic slapfight to paranormal crap
 
If it's "beyond scientific understanding", it doesn't deserve scientific understanding.
 
@sehe I don't get what STL is saying, they should not leave it unspecified but just plug in the underlying container types
 
@sehe Thanks, but no, thanks.
 
@Blob Then perhaps paranormal requires pushing the boundaries of science to make the paranormal normal
@Blob "deserve" is an subjective word, by the way
 
8:45 PM
Or maybe it requires it to exist in the first place
 
@Cinch most such claims are untestable.
 
@Blob By our current methods.
 
@Cinch: Paranormal is BS. There is no such thing as far as I am concerned. There is only nature.
 
*it = bla will compile whenever bla is convertible to the value_type anyway, so what is being lost by specifying it precisely?
 
@Cinch what do you propose?
 
8:45 PM
I.e. the normal.
 
@wilx Well, at least try to act mature. Cinch is not completely delusional. If you think he is, find a constructive angle.
 
@Blob The only thing that can be done; more research.
 
Research on what
 
@Cinch with what method?
obv science won't work
 
@CatPlusPlus Methods to provide a conclusive and definitive answer to paranormal activity.
 
8:46 PM
What activity
 
@Blob Science didn't work for bacteria once, you know.
 
@Blob Why not. As wilx pointed out, paranormal is subjective
 
The boundaries of science take time to push, but once it is, people will agree on most things.
 
@sehe Seriously? Are you saying anybody who believes in paranormal BS is not delusional?
 
The laws of physics, for example.
But theories can change based on new evidence.
 
8:46 PM
Seriously, what activity
 
@sehe the definition of paranormal is basically something "beyond scientific understanding"
 
Say we discover a new singularity where the laws of physics do not hold.
What does this entail?
 
@wilx You can't listen very well. Listen to what he means, instead of tripping over buzzwords with kneejerk responses. Ah well.
 
yay, Andrew Sutton is planning to submit a sequel to @Xeo proposal on overload sets
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so it's impossible to test by definition. otherwise, it's not paranormal.
 
8:47 PM
Holy hell this conversation.
 
Lounge... People...
 
@Blob Definitions change based on time man.
 
@TemplateRex WOOT
 
Things that cannot be understood today can be understoodd tomorrow.
 
8:48 PM
There's literally nothing to understand
 
@CatPlusPlus Then we should stop all research and not attmept to understand anything more.
 
What research on what
 
Because we know everything, k.
 
:psyduck:
 
@sehe I think I am reading. But feel free to correct me where I got things wrong.
 
8:48 PM
Is the only thing that --strip-unneeded does on a shared lib is remove debugging symbols? hmm
 
@Blob so it ceases to be viewed as paranormal. I think Cinch and wilx actually agree on this. Paranormal is but a label. And not very constructive one (and wilx appears to take offense of the label being used in the first place)
 
Prerequisite of research into things we don't understand is that those things actually happen
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@wilx Pfft. I was doing that. Apparently you're not reading the right bits
 
@CatPlusPlus To be a bit more accurate: there are certainly some parts of science we understand poorly (or not at all)--but probably not the things most people class as "paranormal".
 
@CatPlusPlus But how do you know things exist if you cannot yet detect whether they exist?
How would a 1st century scientist discover the existence of electromagnetism and quantum mechanics?
 
8:49 PM
If you can't detect them, then why do you label them
 
@CatPlusPlus Ah, why has it been given a label?
 
@Cinch The problem here is with labeling things "paranormal". This, by definition, means it cannot be known. I get the distinct impression you mean "unexplained (yet) phenomena"
 
Because it has been detected "in some way through primary or secondary sources"
 
What has been detected
There's literally zero evidence other than unverifiable urban legends
 
Xeo
@TemplateRex interesting
 
8:50 PM
BS has been detected :)
 
@sehe Who are we to decide what can be and cannot be known?
 
back in civilization
 
@CatPlusPlus And what is your source for that?
 
@Cinch Intelligent logical people.
 
@Puppy Nice. How does the swamp compare to civilization?
 
8:51 PM
@Cinch Precisely. Yet, "paranormal" implies this
 
@Puppy What defines intelligence?
@sehe Implies is not a definitive word.
 
> logical people
You're done.
 
@sehe: If he said "There are many unexplained things that we still do not understand." I would wholly agree. But saying there is "paranormal" is BS. There is absolute lack of evidence for paranormal.
 
@wilx I never said there is or there not true definitive evidence for either.
Otherwise the argument would be over.
 
Show me a reputable source at least observing any of the "paranormal" phenomena
 
8:51 PM
@Cinch Well. I'm trying to let you understand where your discussion with others is being crippled. If you don't want to concede/agree on terms...
 
Also, the chat moves very fast on these occasions. I might have missed something.
 
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Q: How to specify text as integer c++?

ApuchYzIm newbie in c++ programming. How can I do something like this?.. int question1; question1: "What is your name?"; to set the text value in integer?

Should I answer?
 
k
 
can you submit issues against a gist?
 
8:52 PM
No.
 
@CatPlusPlus edgarcayce.org This is devoted to Edgar Cayce, a man who was reported to have dreams and could predict cures and such
 
ah nm
 
@Blob new semester is starting, sigh
 
You can leave a comment.
 
@Cinch Reported by whom
 
8:52 PM
He was an American in the modern day who had "supernatural" experience and yet produced imperical answers.
 
@wilx I'm trying to point out this precise thing, exclusively. He has a problem agreeing on terms. I'm guessing a language/upbringing thing
 
god I feel like Wikipedian
 
There is an entire foundation devoted to understand what he was, what he did, and why.
and how.
 
@CatPlusPlus That's a title?
 
Xeo
@TemplateRex Very nice.
 
8:53 PM
@Cinch Reputable source. Verifiable evidence
"He said so" is not evidence
 
@CatPlusPlus Reputable is subjective.
 
user3010322
 
Not reputable isn't
 
Verifiable is also subjective once you cannot have the original source.
 
user3010322
I like how Java usage is depicted by the color of warm shit.
 
8:54 PM
If it's not verifiable then it's useless
 
@CatPlusPlus What society thinks is reputable is not alwas so.
@CatPlusPlus Wrong.
 
@Xeo you could try and co-author?
 
@sehe Well, language is important. How am I supposed to know what he is tell me if he uses words that have one meaning as if they had different meaning? That means we are not actually communicating effectively.
 
My god, let's go back to square one of thinking:
 
You're not very good at this scientific method thing
 
8:54 PM
NOTHING IS ABSOLUTE.
 
Xeo
@TemplateRex Sorry, not invested enough anymore in this whole thing. :/
 
Therefore, we must define absolutes using abstract methods.
 
@CatPlusPlus you can research them in case they happen. E.g. extraterrestrial intelligence/life. We search for them. Yet we cannot be sure it even happens (though there is some strong statistical information to suggest this would not be unlikely)
 
Xeo
Nice to see (and hopefully someday get), but I got pretty much no motivation to work on it, tbh.
 
8:55 PM
In reality, it is always changing, yet may adhere to rules that we can approximate to a great degree, but who knows after that.
We live in an "absolute world..." or so we think.
 
@wilx You could try to be less aggressive in denouncing things if it is possible to suggest a misunderstanding :).
 
@Xeo still nice that one of the anointed ones in the Stroustrup circle is running with it, makes it likely that it will be somehow accepted
 
We can calculate pi to trillions of digits yet we can never truly know if we can calculate more until we do.
 
@Cinch Er, no, we know that pi contains an infinite number of digits, so we know there's always more to calculate.
 
@sehe That sounds like I would have to act very condescending. I'd rather assume people say what they mean in the right words.
 
8:56 PM
Because things can go wrong at anytime because no pattern is guaranteed to continue.
 
Xeo
@Puppy I think I addressed that in my proposal, didn't I - with -> decltype(<stuff>) to lift the SFINAE of the underlying call.
 
I mean, if not both sides of an argument try to understand, and even help the other party formulate their points, there is not going to be a discussion ever
 
gotta go, take care
 
@Xeo Dunno, but I didn't see it in this one.
 
@Puppy No, it appears that pi is endless. But the more we calculate, the more empirical evidence that we gather to support our opinion.
 
8:56 PM
There's an outstanding prize for demonstrating paranormal whatever
 
@Cinch No, it's been mathematically proven that pi is endless.
 
A million bucks or something like that
 
@wilx Of course. You can say, "So you mean, we will never be able to understand? Because, that's what paranormal means to most of us, I think"
 
@Puppy Math itself is not always absolute.
 
@TemplateRex Bye
 
8:57 PM
How many years was it now
 
yes, yes it is.
 
@Puppy Ugh....
 
@Cinch @sehe, see that?
 
@Cinch Bad example
 
8:57 PM
@sehe No, good example, because math is an absolute system to model a changing world.
 
@Cinch This is proven. Only if the underlying axioms are changed, this will change
 
We have created a system that holds for virtually 100% of cases... rounded up.
 
@Cinch In fact, math does not model the world
 
the parts of the world that are modelled by mathematics do not change.
 
I feel like I'm reading that flat earth society or other conspiracy theorist forum
 
8:58 PM
@sehe Okay fine, math is used to do so.
 
Don't confuse math with physics, or something
 
@CatPlusPlus they're not serious
it's just debate practice
 
@CatPlusPlus I feel like I'm reading youtube comments
 
Mathematics is possibly the most absolute science there is.
 
@Blob Oh you poor naive you
 
8:58 PM
@Blob This is what you hope
 
Of course they're serious
 
@CatPlusPlus there is no fucking way
 
@Cinch Yup.
 
@sehe But you see, it only makes sense to our sense of the world right now.
 
@Blob No, it is not. Some people are that <fill whatever you wish>.
 
8:59 PM
@Blob Welcome to planet earth
 
An alien race could think entirely differently and find holes in our ways of thinking BECAUSE it is outside of our realm of thinking.
You see, our systems are limited to how we think and what WE can do.
 

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