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4:00 AM
FC has a focus on automation and there's supposedly some tower defense elements
 
user406009
So more like Factorio?
 
> Misogynist comments are rude, sexist, unprofessional, and have no place on this site regardless of context.
what is going onnnnnnnnn
 
You destroy blocks immediately, except for resources which are best mined with automated extractors
 
I give up
 
user406009
4:00 AM
@GregorMcGregor You can burn anyone with quotes out of context.
 
@GregorMcGregor Snap out of it
 
@ScottW I know perfectly well what was said, what i said, and why. I realize it looks ... iffy now but I can't help but feel this is exactly what I meant with "lone provocator" and "blown out of proportions". It does hand me a mirror to reflect on how much I should play along with new newbs
 
@BoltClock please ban my account and donate all my rep to children in Uganda
 
(I'm always there protecting them from immediate "abuse" and he came in as a prototypical help vampire, so I make it a point to point out some nice things (in this case: sharp wit) before people troll him out of the universe)
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor I am still waiting for someone to burn me over a fire due to chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/27204830#27204830
 
user406009
4:01 AM
(In retrospect, I realize that was in really bad taste, but I was trying to argue an ethical point)
 
no it wasn't
 
Nothing about this is misogynistic you mindless morons (this will be removed from meta #digusting)
 
don't let yourself be victimized by this retarded system
 
@Lalaland that one's... not really better in context either, until you get a LOT of context.
@sehe yeah... A stiff kick wouldn't have been amiss there in hindsight. But, hindsight.
 
Hi, Morning All,
 
4:04 AM
@Chirag yo
 
Need Help in installing libcgroup in RHEL 6.5
r u aware of it? @jaggedSpire
 
@jaggedSpire Of course
 
nop sry this is a mysogonist room only no software
thank @jagged
 
@GregorMcGregor k
 
Ok
Thanks
 
4:06 AM
@Chirag I'm afraid not.
@CaptainGiraffe ?
 
Cross posting from private chat with Brad:
> Anyhoops. I feel better already having had the chance to explain the weird build-up. Moderating (RO-ing) the lounge is a difficult balancing act. Basically you have to anticipate the knee-jerking and in this case it made my comment look really bad.
 
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@ScottW I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
more caps
 
> I'm sorry for that.
 
@jaggedSpire I was meaning to respond to @Chirag But @GregorMcGregor fucked that up too.
 
4:08 AM
@VermillionAzure High five!
@CaptainGiraffe oh, okay
 
@jaggedSpire ^^5^^
 
> @ EdCottrell ^ this might interest you too. I'm open for suggestions where to write this up for more transparancy. You are entitled to know how Lounge RO's arrive at their (fallible) judgement.
 
@CaptainGiraffe I'm glad
 
End of cross posting
 
@GregorMcGregor so are you really Cicada?
 
4:08 AM
lol
 
@sehe damn you don't have anything huge to do tomorrow, do you? at this point you're down to a nap
:(
 
@jaggedSpire It's only 6:00pm ya know
 
@GregorMcGregor #disgusted
 
OMG OMG OMG so registers and propagation delays
 
4:09 AM
@VermillionAzure stop posting when I'm clicking the "reply" link. >_<
 
This is normal
 
@VermillionAzure I'm sorry what?
 
user406009
@VermillionAzure He is Cicada.
 
@GregorMcGregor oh okay nvm
@Lalaland oh okay
 
user406009
You can verify by checking the user avatar.
 
user406009
4:10 AM
Even though the name changes in the chat logs, the avatar is the same.
 
@Lalaland but it says Gregor McGregor
 
user406009
@Cinch and your name says Vermillion :P
 
cinch is a sharp one
 
@VermillionAzure you jerk my inability to check who I'm replying to before hitting enter is clearly your fault
 
@jaggedSpire nah. I'll manage. Kids are only home in the afternoon
 
4:11 AM
I am going to bed. When I wake up tomorrow, I hope to see the Lounge still standing. If not, see y'all on IRC. Night, guise <3
 
@VermillionAzure 5:11am
 
@sehe Oh good. :)
 
I will feel like shit of course
 
Bye @Elim <3
 
And I wonder how I'll manage my big band rehearsal (it's a first time replacement with a new band)
 
user406009
4:12 AM
I hope you have sweet dreams!
 
I hope you fall immediately into the land of REM
 
1
A: 1-instruction delay of branching in Verilog implementation and syncing issue

VermillionAzureThe answer is that using state within the PCLogic module will cause an additional propagation delay. By removing a register in PCLogic, we remove an implicit state step in the module itself, reducing its propagation down to negligibly 0. So the answer is to change pc_next to be computed by an al...

The propagation delay is caused by the reg in the PCLogic module
 
@sehe You will do fine if you are the cornetto.
 
By removing state in the PCLogic module, we can remove the delay
And thus the PC can update in T time instead of 2T
 
user406009
@VermillionAzure Nice.
 
4:14 AM
@CaptainGiraffe I'm not
 
@sehe Have my sincere sympathies.
 
cynching issue
 
audible sigh
I updated my profile
 
this make me wonder
Is there any software programming language like Verilog?
 
4:17 AM
@CatPlusPlus :D
 
Is there any software programming language like hardware description language yes let's wonder
 
No I mean the style
It's like you define the structure and logic of the modules instead of telling it what to do I guess
 
CSS
You mean a logic programming language
or what
 
user406009
Prolog maybe?
 
@GregorMcGregor No, not like Prolog or something
 
4:18 AM
@Lalaland oh god. NOW I recall. And get why you posted that. That was the message?
Gosh
Yeah. I thought it was fair game for the guy to pick out that punny double-entendre because I chose weird words "forced entry"
 
Maybe it's Haskell
Haskell defines things in terms of expressions and structures so maybe it's good
 
user406009
Nah, Haskell is imperative.
 
but you still have to type the match
 
I liked it for conveying the precise spirit of the moment (I hated when he came into the room full help-vampire-mode, Cinch started "helping" him) and I started to the like the guy when it became clear he wasn't very dumb
 
user406009
You have to type out how to do something in order to do it.
 
4:20 AM
Sure, c++ is imperative too...
 
@sehe Wait but aren't I dumb?
2
 
Not about you
 
@Lalaland Well I guess
 
user406009
@VermillionAzure I would recommend looking into the difference between imperative and declarative programming languages.
 
Still I thought it was edgy so I couldn't just say "Yes". I wanted to acknowledge the sharp wit
And it was a clear meme-use, for god's sake
 
4:21 AM
no facts
 
> "[Dat awkward moment|my reaction|your face|...] when you....",
 
@Lalaland Welp looks like I've found it
 
@GregorMcGregor The facts are healing my soul right this very moment.
 
Declarative op
Don't you kind of need both though
 
I'm gonna post this on meta tomorrow. It deserves to be known. I can even take the chance to not blame mafa.... for the "crime"
3
Night all
 
4:22 AM
@sehe nite
 
C++ Templates are declarative with a clever syntax. (Or used to be. I'm old)
 
> clever
more like a #disgusting syntax
 
user406009
Truthfully, the declarative vs imperative distinction breaks down pretty quickly.
 
@LucDanton that's going to be a thing now isn't it? #disgusted
 
user406009
With sufficient abstraction, it doesn't really matter.
 
@chmod666telkitty Thank you, though it probably would have worked better earlier in the night. Does that one have a name?
 
> The system detected an invalid pointer address in attempting to use a pointer argument in a call. : bad_address
ok
I have no idea what that means
 
@chmod666telkitty we used to have a chicken like than and her name was Creamy
 
@jaggedSpire are you saying that signing off your messages with a hashtag is normal and not something to be made fun of? #surprised
 
@LucDanton fuck what the haters think #yolo
 
4:29 AM
@LucDanton well how else are you supposed to tag them #practicality
 
@sehe good night sweet prince
 
@GregorMcGregor clearly, the system detected an invalid pointer address
nods sagely
 
#wisdom
 
@CatPlusPlus: No talking about sex is not misogynistic. But the two messages Brad quoted in his answer aren't really about sex are they? Even if they are intended to be sarcastic, joking or over-the-top, they only tangentially relate to the most intimate act two humans can share. We know this because the messages were posted in a public chat room. I interpret them as being about power and conquest, but I could be wrong. If so, well, I wish they'd been phrased more appropriately for the medium. — Jon Ericson ♦ 8 mins ago
Vote: what is the most intimate act two humans can share? sex or colonoscopy
 
participating in a threesome together of course
 
4:34 AM
let's ask @jefe
 
@GregorMcGregor neither, liver transplant
 
@LucDanton call up @etien if you're down for that
 
think about it, one is giving up part of a vital organ so the other may live, which the other will keep in their body regardless of how their immune system is given to react. Both liver-parts will slowly regrow, but will stay with each of them until they die
 
@jaggedSpire beautiful
 
@nick truly I am poet
 
user406009
4:36 AM
@GregorMcGregor Cannibalism.
 
@GregorMcGregor I literally do not understand this post whatsoever
 
@jaggedSpire :') i cri everytiem
 
So apparently winsock is failing because I'm passing it a string allocated on stack??? what
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor Maybe it doesn't use the string immediately?
 
Broken API design 101
 
4:39 AM
@GregorMcGregor having a breakdown and comforting the other person while they're completely vulnerable and being gentle
 
you're welcome
 
@GregorMcGregor allocate it on the heap instead duh
 
It's strange
Why aren't grabbing memory and building around static memory layouts taught?
Doesn't it have good applications as well?
e.g. If I want to create and destroy 10,000 objects each frame, just reserve space for 10,000 objects and reuse the space
 
too complicated
 
@jaggedSpire I call her 'little dummy' because she's all quiet and acts as if she's a dummy :p
 
4:44 AM
@VermillionAzure I was taught that
 
@CatPlusPlus Actually, I mostly don't--I've written some VHDL, but almost no Verilog.
 
@chmod666telkitty :P
 
user406009
@VermillionAzure That's usually called an arena allocator.
 
@nick what happened to her?
 
she ded
maybe 6 months or so i dunno
she lived a glorious life though
 
4:46 AM
Oo :(
Little dummy is a year & an half now ... She gets daily pet from me (unless I am not at home)
 
little dummy?!?
 
lol if you treat them right, chickens can live for a long time
the one I was talking about lived to like 5 yrs old IIRC
 
In all seriousness though it seems like this blowup was caused by numerous factors.
I can't do much about most of them, but I think I can work against one somewhat effectively: @sehe is extra-permissive towards newbies to balance out negativity directed towards them. If not having to try and balance *everyone* else in the room would help him be more objective, I'd be happy to play nice by telling them about the rules in a non-menacing fashion, etc. I'm well aware I'm by no means innocent in the newbie noogies, but I can stop.
 
I have responded
I have a problem
Send help
 
4:51 AM
@CatPlusPlus would getting into a raring argument with you here help by distracting you?
 
give up
 
@CatPlusPlus: Oh, wait. You were in the middle of a ban spree? Ok, now I totally understand everything.</sarcasm> Seriously, though, if you think amping up the strength of your language is a rational solution to other people objecting to your words, then you are in for a rather unpleasant future. — Jon Ericson ♦ 36 secs ago
 
Because I've spent time arguing that a red vase was green before, and I don't test as colorblind on those little dot tests.
 
@CatPlusPlus I told you to play gw2
 
4:54 AM
in my defense it was patterned confusingly
actually no, there's no defense for that
I'm just an argumentative fool
 
translation: I'm just a pedantic nerd
 
@nick translation: Lounge<C++> inhabitant
 
user406009
I'll tell you guys a secret. The Lounge thrives on drama.
 
no way
 
user406009
A Lounge without drama wouldn't be the Lounge.
 
4:55 AM
this was before I even learned C++, so I can't even blame it for all my horrible personality traits. :(
just some of them
 
@JerryCoffin Verilog is awesome
 
Who are these idiots upvoting comments about xkcd ~~~free speech~~~ when literally nobody mentioned free speech ever
jesus fucking christ
The intellectual fucking elite of the world
 
Cat please #gw2 #heartofthorns
 
You're just a cat so nobody takes you seriously
 
Whatever god, if you exist, please rm -rf this shit
Thanks
I meant the planet by the way
 
user406009
4:58 AM
Also, that XKCD comic is sorta stupid. Even if you aren't legally required to support free speech, it doesn't necessary mean that you shouldn't.
 
@LucDanton oh no, you're infected with hashtagitis. :(
 
user406009
I still believe that free speech is one of the most important qualities of a community.
 
Crying about free speech is a thing redditors like to do when their jailbaits and whatever other filthy violentacrez shit gets shut down
 
tumblrcore
 
@CatPlusPlus that’s so old nobody remembers what that is
 
4:59 AM
@CatPlusPlus Is something wrong?
 

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