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7:00 PM
@VillasV when I was buying my keyboard it was the cheapest one with MX Blue on the market. (I have a Razer Deathwidow)
 
@Jeremy I want a poker2, but amazon doesn't sell them to Canada :(
 
@rlemon why not poker 3?
 
Ell
@ElimGarak I think dell/asus have some aluminium unibody laptops
 
@BartekBanachewicz I will believe you only because I have no anecdotal reference to fight back
 
@karlphillip But that wasn't a question, it was me expressing disdain in a way that won't be picked up by the SO Secret Police.
 
7:00 PM
My GF has a Razer mouse and while she initally didn't like putting out that much for a mouse, now she says she wouldn't buy anything else.
 
Ell
they're as expensive as macbooks though so not overpriced
 
Same with every single one of my friend who owns a razer product.
 
@BartekBanachewicz but did she date the mouse first?
 
Same with every single one of my friends who owns an Apple product, incidentally.
 
@Jeremy because I really wanted the 2
I'll probably get the 3
 
7:01 PM
My favorite think to type nowadays is a Microsoft Touch keyboard. I own a Surface Pro 2 (very happy with it)
 
Every single person I know who owned Razer stuff had it break eventually, and then they had shit experience with tech support.
 
@Ell Dells are more expensive than MBP lately.
And ASUS doesn't really compare WRT quality at all
 
@ElimGarak I noticed :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz I currently have a razer kb and mouse
 
After an MBP, I am not going back to other laptops. Even though I do intend to get a SurfaceBook to fill my 2-in-1 fetish.
 
7:01 PM
lot better than logitech
 
Hey Logitech is awesome
 
I have a saitek mouse but I'm going to buy steelseries now
unless razer puts out anything for bigger hands
 
yea logitech isn't bad. but razer has been much better
 
there are no good laptop keyboards anymore
 
@rlemon hahaha you did not bring Logitech into this party.
 
7:02 PM
desktop master race
 
@Jeremy which is why I want a poker
 
@karlphillip Logitech makes inexpensive stuff.
 
fits in my laptop case
 
@Jeremy note how most people here owns both a laptop and a desktop
 
@EtiennedeMartel and crappy ones too.
 
7:03 PM
$5 overpriced for Logitech
 
my mx550 was a rockstar for many years before a beer did it in
 
You don't need to follow the retarded PC master race cult in order to use a desktop PC.
 
Xeo
I like my Logitech mouse.
 
I like my logitech driving wheels.
 
Lesson learned: buy beer for the value of your next laptop instead of just one beer to rekt it anyways
 
7:03 PM
:D
exactly.
I've did in three keyboards
 
@ElimGarak I'm telling you, a Surface PRO is da bomb and worth every penny!
 
@karlphillip Yes, I have Surface Pros as well :P
 
I spilled a full beer on my mechanical keyboard and thinkpad
 
@EtiennedeMartel In general stuff tends to break eventually. I can't comment as for tech support because neither me nor anyone I know had to use it.
 
Neither broke.
 
7:04 PM
@ElimGarak What's better than a Surface PRO then?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I like my gear to last more then two years.
(Which is also why I don't buy Steelseries headsets anymore)
 
@karlphillip MacBook Pros of comparable price.
 
@Jeremy mine didn't break, just got sticky.. and the thought of removing every key and cleaning it wasn't worth the $90 to replace it
 
@karlphillip protip: you really don't wanna challenge ElimGarak when it comes to hardware.
 
But they are great, it's just annoying they come without the typecover as default
 
7:05 PM
@rlemon i cleaned mine :^)
 
@ElimGarak I own MBP too, wouldn't trade it for the Surface Pro.
 
@Jeremy I'm incredibly lazy :P
 
I didn't make any money then, so my time was cheap :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz challenge accepted.
 
user1804599
> and I'm as happy as a clown
 
user1804599
7:06 PM
lol
 
@karlphillip I don't know, I almost got a surface a while back but nowadays I guess I'd get iPad pro or just an MBP
 
Someday I'll try some Kinesis keyboard
 
You're speaking of personal preference here. Surface Pros are a great idea and work really nicely, but you'd get more bang for your buck with an MBP at the same price. MBPs run Windows 10 gloriously.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Right, but you don't really use an iPad Pro to code regular apps, or do you?
 
@karlphillip I wouldn't use a surface either.
tablets are best for consuming stuff.
 
7:07 PM
@ElimGarak I'll think about it in 2016.. thx for the tip.
 
For production, a regular laptop typically trumps them
 
Coding on the Surface Pro is a bit of a chore, how often did you code on it?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I recommend Chris King headsets. I've had one one my mountain bike for close to 20 years now, and it's still smooth as silk. Yeah, I know--not the headset you had in mind...
 
@BartekBanachewicz The thing with a Surface PRO is that it isn't a tablet.
 
@karlphillip a) stop capitalizing PRO
b) it is a tablet.
 
7:08 PM
@JerryCoffin Huhu. Seriously though I mostly buy Sennheiser stuff now.
 
Also, while it had great potential for drawing and art, the software and the stylus kinda made it all wonky and unable to do any precision strokes.
 
@ElimGarak I've been using my surface pro 2 to code for the last 2-3 years.
 
yeah artists might have a different perspective perhaps
@EtiennedeMartel OVERPRICED SHIT
 
@BartekBanachewicz k
 
I code on surface pro 3 everyday, In fact I don't have a notebook anymore
 
7:08 PM
@EtiennedeMartel damnit
 
@karlphillip Well, I've been using the Surface Pro 3 and can't really do shit with it in that regard.
I can run stuff on it, but it is written on my desktop machine.
 
:27263699 yes buddy, I am and use the surface pro to code daily (with a 2nd monitor)
 
I've coded on my Yoga and I think that MBP works better
 
It's great, but I don't think it's an efffective use of your time. You could do more with a desktop or say an MBP. Or any other laptop.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I can't argue with that (says the guy who rarely goes a day without using a pair of Sennheiser HD 650's).
 
7:09 PM
@karlphillip if you hook up a screen you might as well have MBP.
it's much faster and has two DP for 2x4k screens if you want to
also CPU throttling on smaller devices is terrible
 
I bring an HHKB2-S on trips with me because fuuuuck laptop keyboards.
 
sure on paper you can show me 2x2.7Ghz or whatever but in reality it will clock down to less than half of that under constant workload
 
Yes, getting the i7 is idiotic. Even the i5 under low load gets throttled to hell.
 
People giggle when I take it out during meetings
 
Ell
I'm using a logitech mouse right now :V
 
7:10 PM
@BartekBanachewicz My MBP is mid-2010 with 8GB RAM... Not the faster computer around the house.
 
My SP3 throttles all the time and the back gets hot as fuck. I literally burned my fingers a few times.
 
@karlphillip mine has 8GB as well, but it's the new model.
 
@Ell not a gaming mouse
0/10
 
SurfaceBook would be an alternative to your regular MBP, but it has some issues. I imagine the next SurfaceBook will be awesome.
 
7:11 PM
if you're not gaming I dunno why you'd even need a mouse
 
@ElimGarak Really? I'll jump that model and wait for the SP4
 
@karlphillip Yeah, SP4 sounds good. But you might want to consider the SurfaceBook
 
@karlphillip I am pretty sure that one thing won't change
 
@BartekBanachewicz because all these "mobile-first" websites blow total ass wrt keyboard nav
 
Nah, don't consider SurfaceBOok
 
7:12 PM
But I don't see how you can code on it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz hahaha says the guy running Linux without an X server
 
never a good idea to buy the first edition of something
 
"mobile-first" = "fuck language and semantic meaning, I want to point and grunt"
 
@karlphillip X server is one of the worst things that happened to linux.
 
mobile first quality second
 
7:13 PM
The other one was actually appearing.
 
@BartekBanachewicz to navigate SO's interfaces properly.
 
@VillasV It's important for the line to survive. It's a good idea and I'll support it.
 
;)
 
better to stick with SP4 for now until SurfaceBook 2 or something
 
Or you know, buy an MBP and actually get shit done. Windows or otherwise.
 
7:13 PM
@BartekBanachewicz shhhh... don't say that out loud... the Lounge<C++> police might be offended.
 
Windows runs amazingly.
 
I'd like to buy an iPad pro for my GF though
 
@BartekBanachewicz What do you use to support your GUI shells, then?
 
@ElimGarak not necessarily they need that, but ok then. respect to early adopters ;-)
 
7:14 PM
Oh.........
 
I am wondering about not buying an iPhone for myself and buying an iPad for her instead
 
@MartinJames lol
 
it's a tad more costly
 
Well, do you have a 6?
 
I have an N4 now.
Wanted to buy an 6S+
 
7:15 PM
I have one, here: 6
 
iPad pro is about 125% of the price of 64GB 6S+
 
i, too, have a nexus 6
 
I just got the nexus 5x it's dank af
 
apple plebs
 
49 secs ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I have an N4 now.
 
7:15 PM
yeah, well... i might sell one of my kidneys to buy a new iphone and use that to code daily.
 
seriously fucking haters
 
My iPhone 6s came with the MBP (well, I bought it, but same delivery), I use it for 4G network access.
 
I have a WINDOWS desktop, APPLE laptop and ANDROID phone.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I second that.
 
And look at me I can use all three without spewing mindless hate
 
7:16 PM
stfu apple nerd
 
Multicultural Badgetech <3
All systems are gr8
 
@BartekBanachewicz The important thing is that you managed to find a way to feel superior to all three camps.
 
And shit in some regards.
 
@Jeremy aww I love how true it is
but yeah really don't segment into "camps"
 
@BartekBanachewicz Try harder. Think about the meta thing, the hate will arise eventually.
 
7:17 PM
We're all customers. Demand quality from everyone. Buy whatever you like without being afraid of being shamed after.
even if that means ~lockin~ which is an ephemeral concept anyway
 
Where's the Lounge<C++> police when you need it... what a bunch of bullies!
 
@karlphillip Write something quasi not really misogynistic
 
Or don't
 
or don't
 
use your anger
 
7:20 PM
There you go, karl. It's the one with the blue feet.
 
I'm feeling sick of all this political correctness
 
go lie down
 
//old and busted:
fatal error C1001: An internal error has occurred in the compiler.

//new hotness:
0x0FFFA1CF (0x01A6B3D8 0x00000000 0x035B44A0 0x01A6B434), UTCExecuteCompilerInvocation() + 0x4ECADF bytes(s)
0x0FFFDE1C (0x01A6B434 0x00000000 0x01A6B434 0x01A6B400), UTCExecuteCompilerInvocation() + 0x4F072C bytes(s)
0x0FFFA5F7 (0x01A6B434 0x038C2EF0 0x00000000 0x04181B10), UTCExecuteCompilerInvocation() + 0x4ECF07 bytes(s)
...
error : clang frontend command failed due to signal
 
@melak47 lol
so they've fixed ICEs by adding more text to them
 
VS2015.1 Clang 3.7 with MS CodeGen time until first dank ICE: 1 day
 
7:21 PM
that's like fixing shit by wrapping it in a bagel
 
works for most of life's problems.
 
@melak47 Clearly you're in the wrong timezone
 
sounds like a pretty good solution
 
@melak47 Have you tried executing it on a satellite?
 
@CatPlusPlus Have you ever... in the last year... closed the Lounge<C++> chat window?
 
7:23 PM
@karlphillip Yes
 
@Xeo I liked the 5 seconds of gameplay in 2 minute trailer
 
So... how many of you invested in Zano on Kickstarter?
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/11/kickstarter-launched-drone-startup-denies-it-cheated-customers/
 
@ElimGarak lest we forget
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Haha
It's not the only one, though, thankfully.
We definitely need new ones, though.
 
So is it more RTSy or more Dwarf Fortressy
 
7:26 PM
> If they're investors then they get a stake in the company, if they're customers then they have legal standing for refunds as creditors of the corporation. Kickstarter claiming to create a position in between with none of the legal protections of either is disgusting.
that's kinda true
 
Did nobody invested on Zano? Really? Dang.. I feel so silly.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Definitely not RTS
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, a lot of that crap fails horribly.
 
@Xeo @Cat link to original thread you fuckers
what game
 
Xeo
look to the right
 
7:27 PM
Valhalla Hills bby
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I guess a weensy bit Dwarf Fortress-y, since you can't directly control the vikings?
 
@Xeo Looks really good. I love the art style.
@Xeo So it's a builder game.
 
@ElimGarak what? :p
 
Xeo
Takes a bit from Settlers and the Cultures series.
 
@melak47 Exactly :D
The goal is to get Bjarne to valhalla, goty 2016
 
7:30 PM
@Xeo Wait, a German strategy game takes from Settlers? Impossible.
 
I never played Settlers
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Well, our lead dev has worked on the original Settlers games, so...
 
Settlers were dank af and then Ubisoft took over with BlueByte.
 
@ElimGarak I liked Anno 2070, for what it's worth
 
Yeah, I tried to like Anno 2205, but no dice. 2070 was dank af as well
I need a modern variant of Rise of Nations (not the "extended compatibility version"). The soundtrack of that game still plays in my head.
 
7:34 PM
Just play StarCraft 2 and stress a lot.
 
Xeo
FFS Steam. :< The "Two-horned Helmet" edition is not supposed to be a DLC, and apparently Daedalic has been bugging them about it for 2 days without a change...
 
Season Pass pls
 
Someone clicked the wrong butan
Also tsk season passes
 
7:37 PM
Agreed to a colonoscopy
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Don't remind me of that...
 
@TonyTheLion Feeling a bit sick, I hope I didnt catch something :(
Yourself?
 
Wait, this was the Lounge? Nuke it from orbit. That's the only way to be sure. — Will 2 hours ago
idiots keep on coming
no I'm not going to reply I have enough cancer already
 
#SOreadytomakeuninformedjudgements
 
@ElimGarak it has always been
whatever, fuck them, I was silly for thinking they could get rid of a bad mod
they won't close the room either so we're back at square one
 
7:44 PM
Best to stay away from meta.
 
Xeo
Aaaand he's gone.
 
Yeah, I thought that would happen.
 
who is so bored
as to monitor this?
 
the feet guy?
 
7:46 PM
Ok
I'm alive
Somehow
 
wat happened to you
 
You don't want to know
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth He got flagged away vOv
 
@Xeo who is so bored as to monitor this to flag?
 
Let's just say my colon is getting cleaner by the minute
 
Xeo
7:47 PM
SO chat
 
I thought it was a stupid idea to migrate away from here
but I was 100% wrong
 
It's going to be better in the future.
 
yes it is
on IRC
 
Better dramas, I mean. More popcorn time material.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel Did you see this? (I think it was you who liked RWBY?)
 
7:49 PM
@Xeo It wasn't me.
 
Xeo
Hm
 
I wonder how many cursewords an hour is allowed
 
long time no see
 
bye scarlet
see you in 30 minutes
 
Xeo
7:50 PM
lol
 
see you in 24 hours?
 
if everyone had sex once a day, there would be no flag, you're right
 
this is very true
 
flags*
 
7:51 PM
pls don't mention s** in the lounge
 
but the frustration builds up when you're not getting laid
then you walk into a random chat room and attempt to get offended
 
yeah xD
 
and then you're finally like: oh boy, I guess this offends me!
now where did I put that flag
 
hahaha
 
Just take the SO flag and raise it upside down
 
7:53 PM
I feel this is relevant
 
Dat dank title
 
yeah she'll also end up saying it at one point :P
 
fag is just the thingie from a cigarette
noone can possibly get offended
 
Xeo
I'm offended by cigarettes.
 
Ell
7:55 PM
@Jefery procedure complete?
A fag is a cigarette, you bundle of sticks
 
@Xeo I suggest flagging the message then!
yeah it's rather gay (as in fancy)
 
Xeo
Aaaaand he's gone.
 
@Ell Not quite. Last glass to drink and then who knows how long this will go on
 
Is Scarlet gone?
 
Probably a couple of hours more
 
7:57 PM
He will be missed
 
You do realize that you have a lot of eyes on your room due to your Meta post, right? You'd think you'd be a bit mindful of what you are saying. shrug
 
@bluefeet <sarcasm>Thinking! what is this Thinking</sarcasm>
 

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