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4:00 PM
Hmm. I can either shift strings, or construct new ones without the stuff I want to remove.
 
@TonyTheLion Wait a minute, you have a meme around your personality? Wait another minute, you have a personality? ;)
 
I have a personality yes, maybe not a likeable one, yet still a personality
and the meme I refer to is the fact I used to always turn up when people mentioned s**
 
@fredoverflow yeah, __gxx_personality_v0
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you gonna write an answer of your own in the meta shitpost thread?
 
> shitpost
no
 
4:01 PM
About what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes your viewpoint? Only one room owner has said anything so far.
 
I agree with most of the top-voted answer. Don't know what I'd add.
 
and we had like 30 totally irrelevant people talking
@R.MartinhoFernandes so you agree that the lounge should be frozen?
 
@milleniumbug cancer comments
 
4:02 PM
@ScottW bye bby :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's what's being said in the top-voted answer
 
That bit I brought up in comments.
Great. Subway stopped because someone found a backpack.
Fuck everyone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I misread your message
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe it contains a laptop with a project which got ICEd.
 
4:04 PM
If this is the game we're playing in the West now, I'm going to be raising a lot of bomb alarms.
 
Oh boy!
It sure shifts nicely.
 
@fredoverflow cool (modulo love for life)
 
A while ago I went to a concert with my girlfriend and the security was concerned about her 2x2x2 Rubik's cube.
 
modulo operator is my favourite operator
 
Clearly a bomb.
 
4:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes wtf lol
 
Yeah, obviously the 3x3x3 is da bomb. ITT Robot defuses bombs with his eyes closed.
 
Alright
1 liter gone
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes fucking flaggers everywhere
 
I bet she wouldn't get in if she was wearing a veil.
 
4:08 PM
 
Is body armor prohibited in public?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmpfh so essentially you kind of agreed with my answer. That every person should be evaluated by his/her actions and closing of the room is absolutely meaningless
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well the combinations are explosive aren't they
 
@Bartek yeah, more or less.
 
@fredoverflow is that you
 
4:09 PM
I trust we are done with the whole meta bullshit. Also, @Nooble, please don't get us in more trouble in the future. <3
You've just joined the esteemed ranks of Telkitty in the subset of people who almost derailed the Lounge.
 
@Prismatic Yes it is. (Yes I am?)
 
@fredoverflow dat wild, untamed hair
 
@fredoverflow It is (the operator is is, so you hafta use it in the reply)
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow :D
 
user406009
@ElimGarak what about when we named the room Lounge<rightfold's ****>?
 
user1804599
4:11 PM
Trooble
 
@Lalaland Rightfold's asterixes
 
you seem like a good lecturer
 
@Prismatic Thank you very much.
 
@Lalaland Puppy paid for that :/
 
4:12 PM
oh cool a 12 m² studio for barely 915 €
 
user406009
@ElimGarak is that the reason why he is no longer an owner?
 
@Lalaland Actually, yes.
 
@Prismatic It's not untamed (a.k.a. it doesn't look like he combs it with a hand (head?) grenade)
 
user1804599
What if function names came after argument lists?
 
user1804599
4:13 PM
((x, y)multiply)print
 
@Elyse no
 
@Elyse interesting
 
@GregorMcGregor You can get a 130 m² luxury apartment for a little bit more here (€1200).
 
Requires more of a mental stack when reading, IMHO
 
user1804599
4:13 PM
It's like method calls.
 
@ElimGarak I currently pay 1230 € for a double room in a "large" (40 m²) flat
 
user406009
@Elyse that would be hard to read. Most languages start with the subject.
 
> Take x and y and then multiply them, and then... print that?
 
user406009
"The car is red" not "red is the car"
 
user1804599
(x, y) ||> multiply |> print
 
user1804599
4:14 PM
you can do this in F#
 
for yourself speak
 
@Lalaland wrong btw
 
@Elyse Concatenative
 
@Lalaland inb4 French
 
4:15 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь which is fine because the sequence of events is in the left-to-right order
 
most languages you know* ftfy
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus :')
 
It's what Forth/Factor/etc do
 
user1804599
What if a concatenative language executed backwards?
 
This just in: English is not the center of the universe
 
user1804599
4:15 PM
print multiply (x, y)
 
inb4 discrimination of RTL cultures
 
Whats the name of Mozillas new web browser engine again
 
That's Lisp
 
shocking I know
 
@milleniumbug Requires more mental stack for me to read those, but you have a point
 
4:15 PM
@GregorMcGregor its just a little offset from the center :P
 
user1804599
If you do I/O in Factor, are you doing Factorio?
 
korean gives no shit about word order as long as verb is last and so does japanese I believe
 
old joke
 
user1804599
FactorI/O > MarI/O
 
also turkish
 
4:16 PM
@Elyse nonono
MarI/O best I/O
 
@GregorMcGregor you so can whatever say?
 
Xeo
@GregorMcGregor Mostly yeah, I think.
 
I am so tempted to go into that chat room and make an equivalently insulting remark about men and then see if they want the comment removed. sigh fortunately we are ruled by people with well developed frontal lobes. — MrsEd 1 hour ago
 
user406009
@Prismatic servo
 
@TonyTheLion whatever you say can
 
4:17 PM
@Lalaland thats it ty
 
@набиячлэвэлиь If I have to do a x_to_y function in a project, I name it y_from_x instead
 
@Lalaland German sentence order is VSO with a V2 mod.
 
your mum
 
@TonyTheLion "whatever say you can", "whatever you say can", "you say whatever can", etc
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug fuck you
 
4:17 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь Yes
 
@milleniumbug Meh
 
@набиячлэвэлиь These languages tend to be stack-oriented
 
@CatPlusPlus That wasn't a question, dumb-dumb
 
user1804599
Piet is my favourite stack-based programming language.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь the types are in correct order (y = y_from_x(x))
 
4:18 PM
@sehe appreciate your efforts
 
Turns out eating a brick of chocolate wasn't a good idea. :<
 
fartorcode.org
 
@Elyse Which one is your favorite heap-based language? (edit: ew mis-ping)
 
4:18 PM
@milleniumbug vodka vodka_from_самогон(const самогон &);
 
user1804599
@Owatch eat this:
 
user1804599
Chocolate letters are a form of candy associated with the Dutch holiday of Sinterklaas (Saint Nicholas). Celebrants of the Sinterklaas celebration are traditionally given their initials made out of chocolate. Various sizes, types and flavours are available. In order to use the same amount of chocolate for each letter the manufacturer varies the thickness of the letter. This way one letter is not favoured over another, for example the W, or the M over the I or the J. An often used typeface is Egyptienne. == ReferencesEdit == == External linksEdit == St. Nicholas Center; explains the origin and...
 
@CatPlusPlus the comments were sexist, they were aimed at demoralising women, not men. If you truly would like to be at the receiving end next time there is talk like this in the C++ lounge, I'll be sure to join the conversation and give you a taste of the same and equally horrid treatment of men by women. I can assure you, it would leave most of the participants feeling ill, demoralised and very angry. It's devisive and totally unnecessary here or really anywhere. It says a lot about the people using this kind of talk. And what it says it not good. — MrsEd 35 mins ago
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user1804599
@nick Java.
 
@Elyse Where can I find these?
Are they at Jumbo?
 
4:19 PM
I love Java
 
@CatPlusPlus buahaha
oversensitive flowers
 
@rlemon 86%
 
@nick s/Java/Scala and the JVM/
 
yo did freenode change when it asks you to verify your nick?
I dont get any prompts by nickserv anymore
 
@CatPlusPlus wow someone got the neurons wired upside down or sth
 
4:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus it was not as bad as he described it
 
user1804599
@Owatch Yes.
 
> [16:46] -mist:$$*- [Global-ish notice] Hmm, appears a hub went boom. Services are unavailable whilst we figure out where it went.
 
user1804599
Anywhere, really.
 
@набиячлэвэлиь danke
 
I'll get them sometime.
 
4:20 PM
@CatPlusPlus androgyny is not new, consider the "men think every 7 seconds" joke
 
@rlemon I don't even
 
@Gregor actually he's right. More than three quarters of languages have subject-first order.
 
spoken today?
 
user1804599
Dutch has the best word orders.
 
4:22 PM
@CatPlusPlus Copied from jezebel.com
 
They're also the ones with most total speakers.
 
I have to say, Finnish is a buttiful language
 
user1804599
OVS is my favourite because it's so obscure.
 
@Elyse If the language has left to right assignment operators, I do the x_to_y function and I'm perfectly fine with it
 
an alt name for FireFox OS is apparently 'gonk'
lol
what an AWFUL name
 
4:23 PM
> total speakers
 
user1804599
@milleniumbug In Lisps people do x->y. :>
 
is that like total orders?
 
user1804599
(int->string 42) ; "42"
 
how dare you use such foul language @GregorMcGregor
 
That's mostly Scheme thing
 
4:24 PM
id flag your post if i knew how
 
I don't think CL does that
 
In the grand Scheme of things
 
user1804599
Your mother is mostly a Scheme thing.
 
user1804599
CLojure
 
@ElimGarak #disgusted
 
4:25 PM
actually common list lisp
 
@fredoverflow forgot I had this open and was wondering where in the hell all of the German(?) was coming from in my music.
 
@JerryCoffin When someone says "Most women want [...]", they are speaking for women. Calling it an "observed fact" is misleading; it's anecdotal... in other words, it's your opinion. — TylerH 2 mins ago
 
@TonyTheLion It's a personal anecdote
On a scale from vlad to genesis how retarded are you
 
LRiO
 
show us on the doll where your brain is lodged
To address only the "this isn't misogyny" point: it becomes misogyny when men speak for women with regard to what women want. — TylerH 54 mins ago
#cringe
 
4:27 PM
@GregorMcGregor smacks doll on forehead
 
@ElimGarak harsh
 
Ok almost half of the second liter in
 
@rlemon lol yes German :)
 
I'm exhausted by this already
 
Well, isn't it kinda done now? We're just rehashing it at best?
 
4:29 PM
@Jefery What'chu drinkin'?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь meta tears
 
I saw that shitpost
 
I find this meta thread extremely boring now
 
If you want real drama invite them here
 
I am so tempted to go into that chat room and make an equivalently insulting remark about men and then see if they want the comment removed. sigh fortunately we are ruled by people with well developed frontal lobes. — MrsEd 1 hour ago
 
4:29 PM
Meta question: Weight reputation gain by value of tag. #disgusted
 
I'm sleepy now
 
the google devs working on flatui didnt respond to the issue I opened :[
 
asking for a friend
 
@fredoverflow: ok.
 
Lol y i k e s
 
4:30 PM
It is insulting to insinuate someone might want to know someone before having sex with them yep
What a horrible demoralising thing to say
 
@fredoverflow: is there any specification available that says how predefined stream object like cout manages memory?
 
Idiots
 
user406009
@GregorMcGregor "Some men want more from relationships than sex" Are you triggered now?
 
@fredoverflow: when memory will be allocated to it?
 
Yes I just hurt myself stepping on a gravel
 
4:31 PM
@GregorMcGregor Cyber-bully. Continually posts and shouts until it gets the last word in. If I was in a suspicious frame of mind, I would put an Ed sockpuppet at the top of the list of suspects for the original 'rape' post:(
 
@PravasiMeet Why do you think you care about how cout manages memory in the first place?
 
@Lalaland AT LEAST POST A TRIGGER WARNING YOU MYSOGYNISTIC SCUM
 
@Lalaland this triggers me
 
I just wish there was a way for me to sleep and poop somehow
 
also apparently the N word isn't Naruto
 
4:32 PM
@fredoverflow: I am curious to know about it.
 
@GregorMcGregor eh, now we're going to get that one quoted too
 
it is a mystery
 
ty bb
 
And cicada is gone
 
user406009
@Jefery There is nothing stopping you. It just might get a tad messy.
 
4:32 PM
gregory pls
 
15
Q: Is std::cout guaranteed to be initialized?

kukyakyaWhat I know about C++ is that the order of the constructions (and destructions) of global instances should not be assumed. While I'm writing code with a global instance which uses std::cout in the constructor & destructor, I got a question. std::cout is also a global instance of iostream. Is st...

 
@fredoverflow: I've read that there is no guarantee that it fully operates on stack
 
@GregorMcGregor be respectful, naming calling isn't appropriate.
 
@GregorMcGregor haha, dude you really think people weren't watching?
 
4:33 PM
@GregorMcGregor oh my goddamn
 
@PravasiMeet My best advice is: look at the source code. I honestly don't know anything about this.
 
Minutes are passing by too slowly
 
@fredoverflow: great work, thank you so much for the link.
 
Thinking is too hard
 
@bluefeet agreed
 
4:34 PM
People called it bad so it must be bad
I am a rational human being with a brain
fart
 
Help me Cat
 
@PravasiMeet Call me FredGoogleFlow
 
@fredoverflow: why?
 
Wait, is that LRiO?
 
I would imagine that the standard I/O streams are static-initialized before main() starts, (though, of course, in some undefined order:).
 
4:35 PM
O no, it's David
 
@PravasiMeet Because all I do is put your questions into Google and post the search results here.
 
@MartinJames: why undefined order?
 
@PravasiMeet 'cos static initializers.
 
Wellp, I need to get ready to hug a girl today. I hope you guys don't get shut down in the meantime.
 
Ell
careful @ElimGarak, that's quite misogynistic
 
4:38 PM
ARE YOU IMPLYING GIRLS LIKE TO HUG
 
#disgusted
 
2 girls 1 hug
 
FUCK YO U YOU FILTH
 
Ell
That girl probably doesn't want to go on a date before you hug her, you're disgusting
 
DEMORALISING PEOPLE
 
4:38 PM
I'm having pizza
 
lol
 
it helps me moralize
 
aw
 
Ell
haha
 
4:39 PM
Are you guys still demoralising people?
Can't you just move on?
 
@Jefery Just move one? Are you discriminating against C++03?
 
I want to drink
 
Alright here we go
 
user406009
@Jefery Well a lot of it is just confusion on how Jerry's statement could have possibly been sexist in any way.
 
@fredoverflow yeah, it's terrible
 
4:41 PM
These people are clinically braindead
Or something
 
@AndyProwl How long will this "pooping continuously" thing last?
 
@Jefery As long as you keep drinking the thing, I guess
 
I SAW YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT MENTIONED A GROUP THEREFORE I CAN IGNORE ENTIRE CONTENT AND JUST ASSUME ITS BAD AND HATEFUL YES THIS IS HOW MY BRAIN WORKS NO SIGN OF CRITICAL THINKING WHATSOEVER
5
 
but after a while it will become more like "pissing out of your ass"
 
THIS IS NORMAL
 
4:42 PM
caps++
6
 
Well, if it took 1 hour and a half to start, I guess it will keep going after 1 hour and a half after I stop
Does this make sense?
 
I don't think so
but I'm not really an expert
 
More expert than me, that's for sure
 
Yeah but it was like three years ago
I don't remember exactly
 
That's good
No trauma
 
4:43 PM
@Jefery ohhhh, colonoscopy?
 
0
Q: Reading binary file to vector

DeanI'm trying to read a binary file of length 5405 (checked and double checked also in the hex editor) entirely into a vector std::ifstream fs("test.bin", std::ios::in | std::ios::binary); std::vector<char> stream((std::istream_iterator<char>(fs)), {}); This seems to fail since the stream's size ...

might like this
 
@rlemon Yeah
 
but if you keep drinking, you'll keep streaming
2
 
@Dean nope
 
@rlemon You did that too?
 
4:44 PM
@Abyx plz and I'll kiss you
 
@Jefery my condolences.
@Jefery no but loved ones have
I heard all about it
move the TV to the shitter and hope for the best
 
Nice
I'm already on the toilet with laptop on my lap
 
Ell
@AndyProwl are you supposed to drink?
 
@Jefery Best experience ever.
 
red flagged now
good luck returning it
 
4:45 PM
what is a good naming convention when having testclass per method?
 
/afk
 
eeeeeeeeeecho
 
eeeeeeeeeecho
 
echo foxtrot 666
 
@Ell Yeah there's this beverage you have to drink to clean up your intestine
 
Ell
4:46 PM
Oh I thought you meant if you keep drinking water
how do you not get super dehydrated?
 
found the problem
 
It's just for a day and a half
 
@JohanLarsson not sure what you mean
 
I'm already dehydrated I think
 
@Ell Coors/Bud.
 
4:46 PM
Wait what?
 
user406009
@Dean For interest's sake, what was the issue?
 
Well in my case it was for a day and a half
 
@Lalaland I'm tempted not to tell anyone because people downvoted it
 
What? Drinking?
 
but I hate morons so : fs.unsetf(std::ios::skipws); did the job
 
4:47 PM
Yeah
 
I wouldn't have thought whitespaces were the issue
 
@Dean I'd rather use streambuf_iterator
 
Oh no, in my case it's 4 hours
 
but here we go
 
1 liter per hour
 
4:47 PM
ah, you got a different treatment then
 
@milleniumbug Usually I have testclass per class and then I name it <TestedClass>Tests. Now I want one test class per method in the tested class.
 
@milleniumbug that is a great suggestion, that should ignore text problems
 
@AndyProwl On the thingy it says it's the "super powa treatment"
 
@Dean please don't cry
 
Like the one you do to the strongest
 
4:48 PM
@Jefery lol
 
May I access instance methods within a class method, if I initialize the instance within it?
 
Thank you.
 
@Abyx u monster
 
@JohanLarsson Oh, I see. Can you have member classes inside <TestedClass>Tests? That would make solution (just using the <MethodName>Test(s)) obvious.
 
4:50 PM
lol people on meta have gone completely retarded or what?
 
@AndyProwl YES
 
@AndyProwl nope, they are normal
 
wasn't the 'breaking news' message clearly a sarcastic joke?
 
@milleniumbug lets try and see if the runner picks it up, thanks for the suggestion
 
Most developers want at least something of a test suite before they commit. The ones who don't, you (or certainly I, anyway) probably want to avoid.
9
 
4:51 PM
@JohanLarsson I'm not too experienced with C#, so you may want to listen to others' sugesstions too
 
@ElimGarak - Other chatrooms don't get flagged for conversations about women "liking rape" (which horrified multiple moderators from other sites when they saw it earlier today). This doesn't happen in other chatrooms, only the Lounge. Why is that? — Brad Larson ♦ 15 hours ago
hahahaha
why did I not see this live omg
 
@Jeremy How can you live with yourself, speaking for code this way? You code hater!
 
@milleniumbug it is a very nice suggestion, need to check if the testrunner agrees
 
@Jeremy Testist pig!
 
Principle of charity is all but unknown
 
4:53 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum er, how long do kick-mutes last?
 
1 5 or 30 minutes.
 
jhawin's dyslexia was my demise
 
Depends on whether your name is "nick" or not
 
alright, I'll wait
 
#fuckmeta
 
4:53 PM
@nick They're progressive. First is short, each repetition (in a short time) results in longer kick.
 
Why are we talking here about it anyway? This is the lounge.
 
eeeeecho
 
Because I can't talk about it in the JS room?
 
@nick invite me to a private room?
 
> A minimal Docker image based on Alpine Linux with a complete package index and only 5 MB in size!
Now this I like
 
4:54 PM
no worries, I just wanted to ping you
 
@AndyProwl Because opening a random chatroom on SO and searching the transcript for "rape" requires a brain.
 
Sometimes you just feel the urge to ping Benji
 
@ElimGarak I missed the best drama in the last three months or so :(
 
@AndyProwl awww :(
 
@AndyProwl You can still jump on!!!
Not that it's worth it
 
4:55 PM
It's not the same thing!
 
It's just morons in overwhelming numbers
 
I don't think we can afford many more dramas. #SOdisgusted
 
So, this is still going on. What a storm
 
It's like watching a recorded sports event after everyone knows the result
 
That train is still going at 120mph
 
4:56 PM
why not?
 
@MartinJames the thought has crossed my mind, but I concluded that I'm unwilling to accept that such a role would have been so brilliantly acted. Or, conversely I'm happy to have been filled by such a master of the tell crafts. That would be awesome. IOW not a chance
 
Xeo
Whee, Valhalla Hills Steam & GOG release in 4mins \o/
 
@ElimGarak #SOreadytofreeze
 
@ElimGarak #SOdisgusted
 
#SOhypedfordestructionofhumanity
 
4:57 PM
nice memes guys keep it up
 
how do I connect to lounge IRC room?
 
Pick a client or webchat.freenode.net and connect to chat.freenode.net, join #loungecpp
 
thanks
 
I just spent about 35 minutes reading the transcript for the C++ room and have to say that it looks just as bad as some of the worst reddit threads I've seen. #disgusted — Tiny Giant 14 hours ago
lol
this is funny
 
It's more sad
 
4:59 PM
IKR, reddit is awesome
 
Intellectual elite
 
23:30 hours since exam began. Where are results. :<
 
@AndyProwl That guy has been rehashing the reddit comparison for the past 13 hours.
 
rip nooble's meta rep
 
I don't think meta affects rep now
 

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