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18:00
@LucDanton They should be ready as of 2023.
you mean as of 5723
also here is something for you guys who post gifs of animals and stuff imgur.com/gallery/MjNghwP
@AngryLettuce I got the job in HK. 80k USD i'm fucking stoked
18:06
@AlexM. looks like something between cat and dog
@nick grats
@AlexM. Space Engineers No Man's Butt did it first
thanks m8
@CatPlusPlus yea but that's for consoles
this will exist on PC
Actually p sure other games did it first but you know no research for jokes
18:07
@JohanLarsson it's a fox
@AlexM. Will is a strong word when you're talking about SC
Anyway Elite already added planets
@CatPlusPlus fair point lol
Big procgen planets containing more nothing
All these space games are ultimately boring as fuck
But hey you can justify spending 1000$ on VR and head tracking and other bullshit gadgets
By buying 200$ game that's almost completely empty
Doesn't the VR need to run software?
@AlexM. I like how video says "For clarification: this is not playable yet."
18:09
did you see the VR and guitar hero thing?
@nick maybe HK will teach you to troll like it taught cicada :^)
I'm somewhat worried about headset exclusive games existing
it's basically console-like separation on PC
Also seamless fog-obscured LOD transitions with loading screen being hidden behind the warp what a novel development
@Nick I will never attain his level of troll, no matter how hard i try
I'm sure people will be able to hack around it with mods and stuff but still
18:10
@nick well at least you guys can be roommates
I'm fairly convinced all these space games exist only to boost VR gadget sales
@Nick Why are you talking to yourself
crazy
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@nick Are you going to move in with Cicada now?
18:12
@Mikhail thats p dank
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Oh, and congratulations!
what is that?
Escape Velocity (original)
@Lalaland dunno m8
Who's better roommate, crazy towel-destroying lady or random person from the Internet hmmmmm
@AngryLettuce don't forget to pack
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18:14
@CatPlusPlus Truthfully, I would trust nick and Cicada more than most people.
yeah seeing cicada IRL would ruin the amazing online troll mystique
@Lalaland dude I trust myself more than anyone!
> We need fully immersive VR ASAP.
Comments On Space Game Youtubes Video
> Alpha 2.0
lol
@Mikhail dude I had a lot of fun with EV, i think i played one of the most recent ones
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What do you guys think about the VR worries?
cuz it ran on mac haha
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18:15
The idea that VR could cause mass social disorder because people would prefer it to real life?
it was really enjoyable until I figured out how to cheat and get infinite money and then it was just meh
People said literally the same thing about Internet
Famous starwars plugin
@CatPlusPlus shitmantic versioning
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18:17
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, but it is something interesting to think about.
@CatPlusPlus And role playing games.
@Lalaland Not really.
@Lalaland Not really
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It's certainly at least a little plausible.
People can already buy anime babes pillows
VR doesn't change much
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Well, we have seen increasing cases of game and internet addiction.
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18:19
@Mikhail plug-in to what?
@CatPlusPlus despite anime babes pillows and fleshlights we're still reproducing
i have faith
@Lalaland Since games and internet were created yes
@Nick That's not a feature
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@Nick Have you seen recent reproduction rates?
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We really aren't.
18:20
@Lalaland which might help planet earth on the long run
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@TobiasLangner No.
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The people who can reproduce will.
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Eventually every culture that encourages reproduction will take over the cultures that don't.
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Evolution doesn't just apply to genetics. It applies to cultures as well.
We already had this discussion and it was boring .______.
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18:22
@Morwenn Ok. I'll hold off.
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And yeah, it does get sorta boring.
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@LucDanton Do you happen to know if Boost.Range's version of zip (combine) stops with the shortest range?
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And fatalistic.
@Lalaland remember @Morwenn doesn't like talking about sex.
Xeo
Xeo
Documentation doesn't seem to say anything about it
18:22
@Xeo no, not off the top of my head
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@Nick Can one of you guys change your nickname?
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This gets sorta confusing.
@Nick Hey, sex and reproduction are orthogonal :o
Apr 10 '13 at 14:59, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@ThePhD Yes. There is one in Boost.Range, but IIRC has weird semantics.
2013 so check changelog
Xeo
Xeo
Does seem to be the case that it still doesn't pay attention to shortest range
been getting a segfault that can only be explained with that.
18:24
Boost.Range was fair for its day but it’s very badly aged
@Lalaland I thought it would be funny because there are already too many nicks, but the novelty wore off immediately
@LucDanton They probably didn't make breaking changes
Now I have to wait until January.
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@Nick Just change your name to AngryNick :P
Or don't
18:25
@CatPlusPlus it wouldn’t be breaking, it would turn incorrect programs into correct and well-defined ones (I think)
Xeo
Xeo
ye
@LucDanton If it's released semantics then someone relies on it :v
Xeo
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if the first range isn't the shortest, you get UB
and if you knowingly rely on UB you deserve to get shot
no mercy
@CatPlusPlus those programs are 100% not worth worrying about
they can be 'fixed' (meaning made broken again) by doing more past-the-end shenanigans up front, instead of the current implementation doing it on the user’s behalf
SORRY I have a codebase that does using namespace everything and you can't add Object anywhere
or else
Xeo
Xeo
18:28
That's rather irrelevant to the current case, tho
I blame Java
Xeo
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okay, doesn't even seem to matter whether the first range is the shortest. If they're not all equal in size, it goes boom
@Xeo I’m fairly sure the 'range' piggybacks on zip_iterator, so you can still use that
and pass the correct end iterator
Is zip not a complete pain in the ass to use yet
Xeo
Xeo
not with stdlib or boost :(
18:30
@Lalaland ha, please
Xeo
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Does Coliru have rangev3?
ISTR something about that
You think after living all these years under this particular name I can just dispose it just like that?
You think I can just let it go?
Check your privilege
Xeo
Xeo
brb moar food
@nick It depends on whether you care about it or not.
Is that even a question? My name is a part of my identity
18:33
@Xeo aren’t you off work?
@nick I wouldn't care about changing my "real" name.
However, I caree about « Morwenn » and I don't want to change it.
Changing the official one would be a pain though.
I'll take @Elyse suggestion and start something relatively serious with Erlang
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaay
My idea of project is to make a distributed system for my C++ web mining project.
Erlyse
18:38
disgust
Xeo
Xeo
@LucDanton I am
wait why C++ for web
if you want to do web scraping in 2015 you'll need phantomjs for many things
@nick because fuck me, that's why. kidding, I was doing with Python but changed back to C++
lmao
well, depends what you're trying to do I guess
It is targeted mining, so XML parsing is enough for me because I can manually mark the extraction points
18:40
alright I see
so long as you know you're going to get real data, not SPAs
lots of sites are rendered with jabbascript now
@nick true, I was handling that with Selenium in Python. Not sure if I'll be able to do that in C++.
@Xeo well then enough about your work :Þ
But it's mostly for news websites, so they usually don't go that bad with javaScript. They only try to block me :P
> How many times do I have to flush to get rid of you?
And those silly legal notices
18:43
@Morwenn Is your hat a boat?
@Borgleader Yes it is :D
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@VillasV there is also CEF as a C++ alternative to phantomjs.
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It's painful to use though.
@VillasV Terrible idea
Painful C++ alternative to something intuitive in Python/javaScript
18:45
rip
sounds good to me
@VillasV hahaha
Why would you voluntarily do data mining
From wub
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@CatPlusPlus cash money
You can't beat Google hth
18:47
@CatPlusPlus maybe it will be useful in my master's. We already have a node.js doing some mining with 3 years of data but it sucks
@Lalaland imma need an email
It's used mainly for media analytics. As of now, they do some correlation statistics for companies, events and stuff. The goal is to put sentiment analysis in a few years.
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@BartekBanachewicz [email protected]
#kyrostatisnotdead
18:50
what a beautiful last name
@Lalaland sent
I'll translate the one in Polish later
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Good.
so you mentioned you wanted to focus on the renderer part?
I might look at getting Haste to work then
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At least for now. I'll try to get something hacked up in OpenGL.
@Lalaland don't you want to just go with Three.js? I think it's much easier to set up
I mean I don't care I guess from Haskell side we can have both C and JS apis on a whim
so the final platform choice can be decided later
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Three.JS is also fine. The main thing I care about is getting the map to render OK and dealing with mouse clicks.
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18:54
Can you create a GitHub group?
oh a club?
i want in
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We should also create a chat room. So chat works but there are other options.
three.js is fucking fantastic
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At the very least, we need to move out of the Lounge asap.
18:55
by far the easiest way to get started with *GL while not having to deal with the complexities of a full engine
@Morwenn D'awww
@Lalaland right.
I think stack chat is ok for now
@TonyTheLion Butler did it
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@Rapptz fuck the Rapptz
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Let's create a room then.
18:57
Also lens flares
@Lalaland you should've gotten a popup I think
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"Poop up" sounds like tubgirl.
Ell
Ell
What is s happening?
Kyrostat.io?
@Ell 7 8 9
19:06
I'm taking my leave of the lounge until I've seen The Force Awakens toodles :)
Ell
Ell
@Borgleader have fun!
i like trek wars
@Ell HOLY SHIT AIIIIIIII
i'm so stoked
i dont even know what kyrostat is
> Secrétaire administrative de classe exceptionnelle
@nick Is not dead
19:15
how could it be
quickly port everything to three.js
port all the things
port everything to C++
don't optimize prematurely bro
port everything to bad C++
++i vs. i++
I remember when my father used to say that in his company evedybody made obscure and duplicated code so no one else could take your place giving maintenance
19:20
this is a great strategy when you're 60 years old
@nick Never. I do my optimizing immaturely, thank you very much.
@VillasV And when you want to change jobs you can't because nobody else can maintain it.
@Morwenn lol not your problem if you can still sleep at night
#cppethics
@VillasV I mean, change jobs in the same company.
@Morwenn oh, yeah that's a problem
19:24
@nick That's what she said
@JerryCoffin uninstall your IDE
@nick I've uninstalled many IDEs over the years. It hasn't made me any more mature yet.
@JerryCoffin Yet you might be the most mature lounger.
Maybe.
Perhaps.
no me
Okay that's a lie
I think sehe takes that prize :P
19:32
Everybody knows it's Cinch is the most mature.
both in years and behavior
@AlexM. I don't know, you can often feel the rage under the surface.
People are dumb
@Morwenn he does enjoy to troll me now that you mention it
19:35
@AlexM. He's just good at being politically correct even when he trolls or when he despises you :D
golly, I hope he does not despise me
I think sehe is a pretty cool guy
Maybe that's what some people call « maturity ».
@AlexM. It was a general "you" :)
Ell
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"One"
Oh yeah, I also think he's pretty and somehow strives to be just.
> pretty
call of duty black ops 3 -25%
---59,99€---
44,99€
OMG SO CHEAP
19:37
call of poop
Ergh, I forgot a word again.
also they uh
gave turok a facelift
and ask for 16 eur for it
20 eur without discount
So it's like duty calls but cheaper
the draw distance is the main difference
20 eur for a draw distance increase gg
19:39
Turok was scary to me when I last tried to play it
Though it was T2
I think
whaat, t2 was nice
SAVE ME TUROK
@Morwenn Damning with faint praise. :-)
don't mess with the timing for an amazing violin
which is a pleonasm of course but
19:45
Oh, Martin Shkreli got arrested.
Not sure he had time to listen to his shiny unique Wu Tang Clan album.
@AlexM. You've never heard a beginner practice, have you?
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@Morwenn 7/10
@JerryCoffin na I did not :P I can try to imagine it
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wouldn't repost
@Morwenn Cool
19:53
@AlexM. I'd avoid that (but I'd avoid actually listening to it even more strongly).
@Xeo ask your tribe chief why cultures 1 is not on steam!!
I want to play it and relive memories
Xeo
Xeo
cuz reasons vOv
try GoG?
yea I'll have to do that eventually
but I'd have really liked to have it tracked on steam alongside my other games :<
@Morwenn why
he was my hero
@nick something financial fraud something
Who cares.
19:55
hello bois
@AlexM. Add it as external game
that doesn't track hours played and all that
Install XFire h o ho hoho oh
Does that still exist even
lol xfire
I used to use it ages ago
and the other one, WeGame
back when they first released the client
and you could exchange wegame points for games
I got fallout 3 that way
it was around the time fallout 3 got released
Never heard of it
19:58
they died soon after they stopped giving out games for points

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