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@Jefffrey yo dawg i herd u like template engines so i wrote a template engine in a template engine so u can template while u template
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@Jefffrey Yes, but PHP is terrible.
@rightføld it's fairly good for a template engine
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I prefer AWK.
it has nice and pretty syntax explicitly for templates
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21:00
So does C++.
he he
@rightføld ok
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this one is misleading
I think
@Jefffrey I like that one :)
"variables"? more like "objects"
21:02
None of my colleagues guessed it.
can function be variables?
@Jefffrey Those are not variables, right?
They really look like functions.
MVP.
They thought the compiler did not complain because they were unused.
They're really just overloads.
21:03
yep
the internal int() is probably processes as another function too
so int n(int()) is probably a function that takes an arity-0 function that returns an int, and returns an int
or something, right?
seems so
@Jefffrey so what will the compiler make of int(int())? and int(int(int())) ? (I don't even know myself.)
this one is nice
@StackedCrooked what I said in that message you are replying to, I guess
@Jefffrey I came up with than one tonight.
int() per se is really the same as int(*fn)()
but only works with C++ (not C)
AFAIK
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21:07
I want observer_ptr to be in the standard
and value_ptr
so in int(int(int())) you have a function that takes a function that takes a function which returns an int
I honestly have no idea what is going on that one
like those random & and && "at the end of the function signature" seem the key to everything.
do I see a single type there with 1696 characters? how charming. — Karoly Horvath Aug 17 '14 at 7:50
wait
oh you cheater
@Jefffrey I like the *new Item() vs Item() aspect. Not having a name does not always mean being an rvalue.
Beeeeeeeer
21:11
@StackedCrooked well you are doing something after the output of the program to transform 1324 into ****.
So now it's less interesting :P
but seriously what are those & and && there?
@Jefffrey lol, didn't expect people to not notice the sed
@E_net4 no .git already in the dir tree. thanks for trying it out though; i ended up cloning a specific branch directly and it seems to be working
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@Jefffrey don't give it away to potential viewers!
@Jefffrey they are ampersand and double-ampersand
:p
you are evil
@Ell you guys should be thanking me :P
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21:14
@Jefffrey for giving the answer away? :P
for avoiding hours of pain and frustration
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it took me one attempt :D
@Jefffrey reference and rvalue reference? :P
// I resisted the temptation to put it like this
     Item() =      Item() =
     Item() = *new Item() =
*new Item() =      Item() =
*new Item() = *new Item();
Xeo
Xeo
yay, time for the Minish Cap run
21:17
what's the official rule stating why it should be deleted, @borgleader?
@Dmitri If it can't be salvaged.
@StackedCrooked lol.
@Dmitri Its not a rule, more like a highly probably outcome
other than "wow this is an incredibly ill-phased question and very basic"
lol ok
@Borgleader dat
21:19
@Dmitri the reason here being that it's an ultimate faq, easily googled and searched on SO
@StackedCrooked it was the first thing I saw. About 1.5 hours ago when you linked it
I dislike puzzlers so I didn't care :/
ok... SSDs... who's generally a good brand? Looking for a small (like only 30gig, though I'll take more) drive... probably will get two to stripe...
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intel are good
@Ell did you solve it?
@Ell so I've hear. Good in what way though? reliability?
@thecoshman Samsung AFAIK
BOOM Removed for reasons of moderation
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21:27
12 mins ago, by Ell
it took me one attempt :D
@thecoshman No idea, I hear it too though :P
the ampersand thingy I meant
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@Jefffrey I'm confused.
Did I solve what?
the problem?
yeah, but cheapest I see (looking at just one site) is a 80gig for 80€
I'd rather get two 40 for 40
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@Jefffrey Ohhh. its the cv qualifier for the function
it's similar to putting a const at the end
wat
really?
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21:28
Yeah.
what do it do?
it selects the overload based on the type of the value that it's called on
nice
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Yes
It's ref qualifiers for *this.
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A: What is "rvalue reference for *this"?

XeoFirst, "ref-qualifiers for *this" is a just a "marketing statement". The type of *this never changes, see the bottom of this post. It's way easier to understand it with this wording though. Next, the following code chooses the function to be called based on the ref-qualifier of the "implicit obj...

what does cv stand for again?
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21:30
const-volatile
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const–volatile
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actually, I guess it's just ref qualifiers
@thecoshman Samsung. I heard a lot of good things about them. I got myself a 500GB 850 EVO for Christmas. It's solid so far.
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I'm not sure if you can do volatile qualifiers or not
"200 MBps (read) / 60 MBps (write)" lol, no
@Mysticial I'll have to look around... see if I can find a cheap enough one
21:31
@thecoshman Over here you can get a 256GB Samsung 840Pro for 120€. Thats 3x the space for 1.5x price. So 2x better!
> Sustained Sequential Read 540 MB/s
Sustained Sequential Write 520MBps
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so it is the cv & ref qualifiers for *this
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Bye :)
21:32
@Borgleader I need like 30g space, I'm looking to raid a pair of smaller ones for better speeds :D
@Borgleader Yep. Completely limited by the SATA bandwidth. That's how fast it is.
well this is very interesting. I just built a program that somehow magically works.
and I don't even know why it works. wow.
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UB
serendipity level 98
@thecoshman How much bandwidth do you need? Like seriously 500 MB/s is enough for anything except for maybe y-cruncher. lol
21:33
@thecoshman I just recked that 200MBps speed of yours seriously samsung ones are really good. No need for raid.
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@Mysticial I thought SATA was 6GB/s
@Ell Gbits/s (note the bits)
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Oh right
Gb/s
my bad
And then there's some overhead.
21:33
@Mysticial ... that is a fair point
So you rarely get over 500 MB/s.
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250 MB/s overhead is a fair bit
still, If I can get two drives for the same price, I can more or less get twice the speed
@Ell how you get to that figure?
@thecoshman newegg.ca/Product/…-20-147-252--Product <-- 71 euros
21:35
@Ell Yes, that's expected.
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I never knew it was so high
@Ell a lot of the time if you just /10 you get a better speed, accounting for overhead of shit
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Holy jesus look at the price of this goo.gl/z8p45W
@Borgleader IIRC newegg don't ship to me
@thecoshman No, I'm giving you the link so you can search the model on your e-tailer of choice (since i dont know where you live) + it gives you an idea of the price
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21:37
but look at that speed
> 3 GBps (read) / 2.5 GBps (write)
nice :P
@Borgleader sure, but prices don't map over that well.
you yanks seem to fire random prices on stuff
@thecoshman Yanks? I'm canadian :P
@Borgleader :P
Vice-Bishops: "Every day, those bad question blues..." :)
oh hey, samsung actually seem fairly well priced
WOAH! just waited like an hour for a folder to delete
21:40
The company?
I feel like I need to let the poor thing have a rest now
... I should probably check what that laptop actually takes before I buy it a drive...
@thecoshman Your GF?
21:42
@MartinJames now then.
Ruddles County - I can't help it.
Not bad
Draft?
gets me everytime xkcd.com/292
@DonLarynx Will a dinosaur attack me if I tell the next person to post that link to goto hell?
ha. ha. ha.
21:47
Not that I'm actually upset or anything, just curious.
goto fail;
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Where's the dinosaur?
¬_¬ if ever someone needed to be kicked
@Mysticial Hiding (usually in/around furniture).
@thecoshman Oh yeah:)
dinosaurs are shape shifters:
21:51
noriko can't be a girl name because it ends in the letter "o".
class chicken: public dinosaur{
// do stuff
}
@MartinJames not bad, it git's boring fast
I like malty, very malty
@DonLarynx Really?
@thecoshman "boring fast"? So it's like a really good drill press?
@Mysticial Well, there's a niche cae on embedded where a goto fail' may work when a call/exception may not If the stack pointercno longer points tovvalid RAM, a goto may allow you to get an errer message out of a debug port.
That said, I still use call fail', even if no intention of ever returning.
@JerryCoffin come on now ¬_¬
@thecoshman Once upon a time, I was a machinist (so the debate here was about whether to use "lathe" instead of "drill press").
@StackedCrooked I think you had it right the first time.
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@StackedCrooked is that implementable?
@thecoshman Me too, bur only other choice is Doom bar, Guinness or shi..lager.
@Ell maybe.
21:58
@MartinJames phf, easy, Doom Bar
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I have to attempt it now
@thecoshman It's good, but I prefer Ruddles.
@MartinJames bah
I bet the price is swaying you
We live in America @Jerry. Do you need a map? Specifically a <maps>?
huehuehue
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wat
22:09
Wow, for a long time I hit my rep cap again
@thecoshman Both £3.00 here.
What a wonderful feeling
@DonLarynx Who lives in America? I live in the Pacific ocean.
Oh, oops.
@DonLarynx It did seem pretty obvious that if you copy something stupid, the result is likely to be pretty stupid.
22:11
@MartinJames oh wait, you smoke, so have no sense of taste :P
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can macros be namespaced?
Whatever. C++ will always be king. @Jerry
@Ell The only "namespace" followed by macros is at the file level.
@thecoshman Cosh off.
I can't do counter += lychrel(i); because an object reference is required to access the non-static field. stupid indeed.
22:12
@MartinJames James my arse
@thecoshman Actually, my taste is telling me that this barrel is about gone:(
@MartinJames I did try to help you :P
@JerryCoffin So you're a mermaid? :o)
@thecoshman I want Eddie to help me and put some new shit on. Don'know wots next.
The good thing is that my score in the tag is still affected by these superfluous upvotes. yay
22:19
a big middle finger to c# I give
even though I solved the problem
congratulations @Columbo
@DonLarynx I know, right
Do I get a cookie or sth.?
shares lemonade with @Columbo
shares amazing song with @Columbo youtube.com/watch?v=lKspaNgq74Y
@DonLarynx Columbo approves the song and points @DonLarynx to another amazing sonata by Scarlatti youtube.com/watch?v=e7pKkddgNWo
www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/idaho/39845d1239737373-idaho-here-we-come-bo‌​rat-verynice.jpg
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
22:26
Makes you stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid
I found a really good one too
In Poland? Doubt it
most cats aren’t even 21, so just keep them off the hooch.
@MartinJames oh well in that case, drink up :P
Ooh.. new kit on stage. The Bishops have small monitors stuck on top of mike stands. Not seen that before.
22:27
My teacher pedantically corrected me the other day, clarifying the fact that the only good beer is done in Yorkshire and other parts of England
wait wait wait, I'm sorry
good.... beer?
is that like, maintainable C?
@Columbo Find some way of getting it fired, before it does any more damage.
or readable Java?
@MartinJames I can't, he's quite competent.
@Puppy Honest politicians?
22:30
(That is, I am not able to do such a thing by my nature of fairness)
I'd rate that as above maintainable C, readable Java, and good beer
Allright, time to get my warrior to level 100!
Let's go!
noob
@Puppy Do you have fleas yet, bitch?
(You're female, right?)
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@Columbo If you differ in sex, try a rape allegation. If you're the same sex, try a rape allegation.
22:33
> You have fully used your vote allowance for today
noooooooo
@Griwes lol
:D
but that's a fault of the guy who came here looking for someone to teach him C
Someone should've suggested brainfuck.
@Griwes That was funny, while it lasted. As as it doesn't happen too often...
@Puppy no such thing.
22:40
hmm
@thecoshman thatsthejoke.gif
I was just thinking back to a party I attended before I realized how tremendously stupid they are.
I drank some vodka
and spent a few hours being very sick
now wondering if precursor
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@Puppy parties are fun
if you have three brain cells
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22:42
people with more than three brain cells enjoy parties
not all parties are just everyone getting too drunk
I've seen it happen @Ell
maybe if the other brain cells died of alcohol poisoning
@Puppy Everyone does. Do you have less?
I once saw Bill Gates at a party.
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not all parties require alcohol
@Puppy If you pour bottles of vodka into a saucepan and pass it around, that's what happens.
With his drink and all, which appears to be dynamically allocated.
@DonLarynx A free spirit.
@Martin what's he doing with his right hand?
22:44
the hobbit was cool
very nice
@DonLarynx Playing with his microsoft.
A+/10/excellent
you can't go wrong with tolkien's lore
@DonLarynx Tearing the brain from the poor guy sitting down?
lol @Nooble
lol just lol
> 40-inch 3840x2160 monitor, like Seiki’s, comes in at 110 PPI. That’s easily usable without messing with Windows’ still-not-great DPI scaling.
nothing about Windows' DPI scaling is still-not-great
it's downright abysmal
I disable it for all programs; in Win8 I was able to turn the setting off
it was removed in Win8.1 so I have to turn it off for each app
the result without that is always a blurry mess
22:49
I'd rather get a 21:9 monitor than a 4K one.
I can't play games at 4k so unless I decided to spend that much money on a work-only screen...
What the hell.
There's something loose in my mouse
It's a giant weight inside there moving around.
@Nooble Your ball has escaped.
@MartinJames But it's a laser.
@Nooble your laser ball has escaped.
wait wut
I would buy one of those but only if I could get 3
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@Nooble dat pun
the lack of a frame would work well in eyefinity
but then again, 60Hz
so nope
Hehe.. lead guitarist had a string crash in middle of an instrumental. Everything is fucked up..
@AlexM. You've spoiled yourself with 144Hz.
22:57
wouldn't go below anymore
goto statements are worse than drugs.
I don't even need vsync to get rid of tearing with 144Hz lol
can't...stop...using them.....
barely any frames get skipped
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22:58
those comments between Curtis Kelley and Doge LOL
I don't have $300 or so to blow on a monitor though.
Unless, maybe VG248QE.
I get 200+ FPS in CS GO so technically there are frames that get skipped
it's just that you don't notice them
so it appears as if you had vsync on at lower ref rates

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