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4:00 AM
Yes, isn't she a beaut?
 
but seriously, you can take the hard road and continue under windows
you will learn things
and you will hate your very existence
 
Install Gentoo.
 
or Xubuntu
 
Very fast, nowadays. I'm hating myself already.
 
I prefer Xubuntu
 
4:01 AM
@nightcracker Windows 7 was 2009 apparently. So yeah, very short.
 
but in reality you can choose any distro
 
I use Debian.
I don't know what Xubuntu would buy me over Debian.
 
I use Xubuntu because I like the look and feel of XFCE and like the mainstream packages of ubuntu
 
Debian is XFCE by default.
 
@Rapptz Xubuntu, Ubuntu and debian are very similar, sharing the same repo
AFAIK
 
4:02 AM
yes
but both Xubuntu and Debian default to XFCE
So I'm not sure I see the difference
Honest question, I've never tried Xubuntu.
 
I think the differences are very minimal, mainly coming in having more packages preinstalled
 
Oh.
> The default desktop environment of version 7.0 Wheezy was temporarily switched to Xfce, because GNOME 3 did not fit on the first CD of the set.[29] In November 2013, the default for the future version 8.0 Jessie was changed again to Xfce. Demand for Xfce will be evaluated and the default environment may switch back to GNOME just before Jessie is frozen.[30][31]
 
doesn't matter though
sudo apt-get install xfce4
or something
 
I like XFCE a lot more than GNOME 3
 
same
I don't like the entire tablet-esque UI design everything has gravitated to
this is a desktop
not a fucking tablet
 
4:07 AM
I kinda wish XFCE got updates though
 
basically all we need is linux gaming to pick up and I don't need windows at all anymore
 
I don't think it has received an update in a long time
 
direct3d is the golden gem for microsoft though
since opengl is... in a poor spot
 
OpenGL is doing okay
 
it's not terrible
 
4:08 AM
there's nothing I know of that DirectX offers over OpenGL now a days
 
I'm not a graphics guy myself
but the blogs I've read seem to praise direct3d and saying opengl has fallen behind
 
they're dumb
 
btw
read this if you're curious
1157
A: Why do game developers prefer Windows?

Nicol BolasMany of the answers here are really, really good. But the OpenGL and Direct3D (D3D) issue should probably be addressed. And that requires... a history lesson. And before we begin, I know far more about OpenGL than I do about Direct3D. I've never written a line of D3D code in my life, and I've wr...

It's a long read but it's by Nicol Bolas so you know it's top tier quality.
It's hard to say OpenGL has fallen behind when it's the only API that works on all platforms, mobile included.
 
I was under the impression that opengl doesn't support xbox/playstation?
 
4:13 AM
PlayStation is BSD based (i.e. it uses OpenGL)
I can't comment on Xbox.
 
but given Microsoft's dogfeeding it'd probably DirectX only
@nightcracker Yeah I know. I don't buy it though.
Read the history post above
 
@Rapptz No it doesnt
well not PS4
 
got a source bud?
nvm found it
PS4 uses its own thing
> The native operating system of the PlayStation 4 is Orbis OS, which is a fork of FreeBSD version 9.0 which was released on 12 January 2012.[3][4] The PlayStation 4 features two graphics APIs, a low level API named GNM and a high level API named GNMX.[5] Sony's own PlayStation Shader Language (PSSL) was introduced on the PlayStation 4.[6]
 
4:17 AM
man
I'm sure game designers love another platform to write a backend for
 
lol indeed
 
hell
why even bother with this portability?
from now on every graphics card should have it's own unique API
 
Well when you think about it, its just 2 total unless you dev for nintendo
DX and GNM
 
not really
Linux/Mac OS -> OpenGL needed
 
not many release for these platforms
 
4:20 AM
Windows -> DX or OpenGL
even just 2 APIs sounds like a pain in the ass
 
ive been told its not so bad
who knows maybe OpenGL Next will change things :P
anyway, gonna watch Sharknado
 
sincere doubt m8
 
u wot m9
 
y u think i ended with :P
 
4:23 AM
 
i hope its good enough to become ubiquitous, but im not holding my breath
 
Well
Never forget Longs peak.
Well, who knows.
OpenGL ARB died but based on previous experience OpenGL Next will suck.
 
4:49 AM
jesus
i danced
i found hte amount ogf alvhol that makes that possibl
im not going to correct th at beause it reflect the ttate of my minf right now
 
ok
 
fuck im druink
amd we got p much kickecd out and didnt come home with firls how lame is that
god
 
@CatPlusPlus Keep going at it, it'll work eventually.
 
I am sick & tired of this butcherbird, it keeps on coming to the windows to beg for food - I fed it 3 times in a couple of hours time already and that's only because I spent most of the time today in a room from which it can not see me
 
i wanna dance more
whats hapenning
i drank like 5 beers and 4 whiskey glasse\\\\\\\\
\and cidfer
jesus schirst
 
4:55 AM
We, do not drink whiskey glasses, only the whiskey in the glasses
birds should not depend on handout from human
 
i wannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna dance god what is happening with me
aaaaaaaaaaaaa make me stop
why ami not sleeping
 
@CatPlusPlus this is beautiful
 
i regret this already and im still drunk
9
fuck
i reall y should go to sleep
 
5:11 AM
no you sould keep dancing
 
sleep dance
drunk sleep dance
remember to video taping it & post it on youtube
 
 
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6:35 AM
The last message was posted 5 hours ago.
 
7:20 AM
WTH is this movie?
@nightcracker It used to be like that.
 
Ell
7:55 AM
How is cat dancing so early in the morning
 
@Ell Sounds like a title of a viral video.
 
8:14 AM
1 message moved to bin
 
user1646075
spoilt sport
 
Don't onebox annoying gifs.
 
user1646075
sah!
 
@CatPlusPlus It's a catastrophe. You'll be catatonic till lunchtime.
 
Ell
Haha
 
8:28 AM
It's shift work. Sunday lunchtime, cat 'wakes up' and I goto the club to play cards. I will be catatonic myself from ~1730-1200, when I will probably pop up here.
 
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Q: Dynamic Multidementional array

user3812696I made Matrix Multiplication program in c++ using dynamic Multidimensional arrays. problem is when i enter test values matrix A = row1{ 1 } , row2 { 2 } matrix B = row1 {1 ,2 , 3} , it stops working at the loop where user inputs values of first array , i found it using debugging. but progr...

Arrays don't forget their data; they're not dementional. — FredOverflow 29 secs ago
@ScottW Have you been watching 24?
 
Ell
@scott do sleep then return
 
@ScottW Watching anything else recommendable?
@ScottW I'm re-watching Lost. I didn't remember it being so terrible. All this time travel is really stupid.
@ScottW I really liked the first three seasons. Then it got weird.
 
@FredOverflow Time travel? I thought it was just full of flashbacks. (I have never actually watched it.)
 
@VáclavZeman Flashbacks right from the beginning, time travel starting in later seasons.
 
8:37 AM
Ah.
 
@ScottW What pyramid?
 
Lost was great for the first one, maybe two seasons
after that it devolves into "OMG what does THE ISLAND want us to do?!"
 
@ScottW I didn't know programmers could be so vague :)
You're probably referring to the 4-toed-statue or something?
sure
Which is every other show out there, right? :)
Oh god I hope this is full of win!
 
so terrible
 
while(str=!0)
{
    //do something with char in *str
    ++str;
}
hahaha
 
8:46 AM
@FredOverflow It's not.
 
At least nothing terribly funny on the first page... moving on.
> When I was trying to teach somebody to code they wanted to use 'or' to randomly pick between two numbers
value = 1 or 2
> Its understandable how a non programmer would expect this to work, so I didn't think he was dumb for doing it, but I still found it funny.
I'm pretty sure I've done this myself when I started :)
classic
 
wow man
these breaks have really ruined your code
what language is that?
 
looks like BASIC
if(statement)
{
    foo();
}
else if(!statement)
{
    bar();
}
else
{
    fatal_error();
}
> They all seemed to originate from a single developer, and apparently he has trust issues with the compiler/hardware.
LOL
 
user1646075
@FredOverflow so many stupid comments on that page. Stupid comments claiming something is stupid
 
Gamedev.
 
user1646075
8:55 AM
I once saw the following in a 4GL-type language:
for i = 1 to 7
case i
when 1 let array[1] = 'Saturday'
when 2 let array[2] = 'Sunday'
etc
end case
end for
 
@aclarke Oh yeah, I've seen that pattern was well a couple of times :)
 
user1646075
probably the same programmer wrote:
if x is null
let y = null
else
let y = x
end if
 
@ScottW That's not funny. That's just sad.
@aclarke love that one, too :)
 
user1646075
@ScottW loop unrolling!
 
@aclarke Isn't that what compilers normally do for you?
 
user1646075
8:59 AM
4GL and business programmers in general used to be really sad cases. Nowadays there's usually demand for at least a graduate degree.
 
user1646075
nahh, an actual 4GL language - very dumb and wordy like that.
 
user1646075
less power than VB if you can believe that, BUT it did integrate SQL very very tightly indeed, so it had that benefit.
 
Ell
4GL?
 
user1646075
looking back at what was called 4GL, they're laughably simple. It was a 'phase' - let's make a simple language with a few clever tricks aimed at repetitive business programming
 
user1646075
4th generation language. You may start laughing ...... now!
 
9:02 AM
@aclarke What generation is Java?
 
user1646075
heh - would you believe, in that world-view, it would be a 3GL along with C, C++ Pascal, you name it
 
I'm wondering what the correct (PL wise) way to do this is, as in - how would a good type system handle it.
 
 In 2012, Australian households spent $14.1 billion on alcohol, $1.1 billion on tea and coffee, $8 billion on beauty, $19 billion on recreational items, $9.5 billion on gadgets, $5.1 billion on fashion, $10.5 billion on personal care and even $780 million on pet pampering.
 
Maybe string only templates hmmph
 
user1646075
14.1 billion? is that per household?
 
9:05 AM
almost 3 times of the money spent on alcohol than clothes ...
 
user1646075
10 billion of that would be tax
 
I spend much more money on Alcohol than on clothes, I spend about 100$ a month on Scotch and probably a similar amount on beer, probably more.
If I spend 200$ on cloths a month that's a lot for me
 
user1646075
@BenjaminGruenbaum start saving for a liver transplant
 
Ell
I spend much more on alcohol too
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I only buy a piece of clothe when an old piece of clothe "dies".
 
9:06 AM
@aclarke I don't drink that much.
 
Ell
@fred same here
 
user1646075
@BenjaminGruenbaum oh - a month - read that as week. :-)
 
I drink maybe once a month. Probably less.
 
Ell
I drink at least once a month
Probably weekly
 
@FredOverflow I buy clothes from time to time, I don't buy a lot but I do buy a shirt or a pair of pants every two weeks.
 
9:07 AM
You don't drink?
 
I drink two beers with friends every other day and I enjoy scotch maybe once or twice a week, I rarely get drunk.
 
Xeo
Mornin o/
 
Don't think I was drunk once in the past 2 years, I just really appreciate beer
 
Mornin
 
Xeo
I've never been drunk.
 
9:08 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I was drunk once this year.
 
Xeo
Also, damn, mead is delicious. Especially cherry mead.
 
That's reasonable
 
Ell
@xeo never ever? How come?
 
@Xeo Me too.
 
Xeo
@Ell Just... because?
 
9:09 AM
I don't believe in overdoing things, then again I don't really get addicted to stuff. My personality sucks in a bunch of ways but I don't get addicted to stuff (emotionally) very fast.
 
Xeo
For one, I don't drink to get drunk. I drink because I like the taste of the beverage.
And for two, I just don't seem to get drunk.
Also, no hangovers or anything.
 
Me too, but I won't lie... I have fun when I don't drink at parties with friends but I have more fun when I do drink
 
@Xeo You like the taste of liquor? :)
 
Xeo
1 min ago, by Xeo
Also, damn, mead is delicious. Especially cherry mead.
 
Mornin Tony
 
Ell
9:10 AM
@xeo yeah I was just wondering if it was by intention or accident
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum how about physically? :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I mostly drink alcohol-free beer at parties, and I'm having the right amount of fun.
 
Xeo
Beer, yuck :s
 
@StackedCrooked I'm sure I get addicted physically just like any other person, I don't think I could quit heroin cold turkey after half a year for example - I don't get emotionally attached to substences though.
I love beer.
 
Ell
I have never tried mead
Isn't mead very sweet? Made from molasses or honey or something?
 
9:12 AM
I love beer, a good espresso, fresh oysters, a good scotch or a good cognac. I don't enjoy the effects of being too caffeinated, drunk, or full of food.
 
Xeo
@Ell Here's the funny part: I dislike honey, and I dislike wine - mead is honey wine.
 
you crazy
 
Ell
@xeo that is very odd indeed :P
 
@Xeo How do you feel about mustard and honey mustard?
 
I dislike H and I dislike O but I like H2O.
 
Ell
9:14 AM
And mustard wine
I love having an O
 
Xeo
@LucDanton I don't think I ever tried honey mustard. I do like mustard, though.
 
honey mustard doesn't have honey
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked I like that a lot too - and I drink a lot of it in concert with the alcohol.
 
@Rapptz Perhaps there’s more than one kind?
 
The only honey mustard I've had with honey was, incidentally, in france.
 
9:16 AM
My local supermarket doesn’t stock any :|
 
that's how it happened
 
@ScottW yep, I have that
 
They didn't have honey mustard
So they gave me mustard and honey and mixed it
 
Xeo
I think so far I tried raspberry, cherry, green apple, raspberry-vanilla, currant and wild berry mead.
 
No joke
 
9:17 AM
…kind and helpful of them…
 
Xeo
Cherry tastes the best.
 
tasted decent
night
I'm watching X-Men Days of Future Past
pretty good
surprisingly good even
I had low expectations but it's engaging
 
> “ Doesn’t suck half as much as I thought it would ” —Rapptz
 
I just looked it up.
Apparently it's the highest rated X-Men film.
 
9:36 AM
Why do you want a used woman when you can have a beautiful virgin pony?
 
user1804599
Because you can't.
 
Ell
"Used"
 
>taking ANY post on /mlp/ seriously
Magneto is such a cunt nugget
 
user1804599
> cunt nugget
 
user1804599
@Xeo meat is delicious
 
user1804599
9:48 AM
@FredOverflow -π
 
10:01 AM
do you guys know how I can download the MS C libraries?
without downloading MSVC
 
you mean a redist?
 
You may want to google for "Visual C++ Redistributable Packages"
 
not the redist no
the actual headers
 
What do you want to do with them?
 
best bet is Windows SDK
if they even still ship a separate WinSDK
 
10:14 AM
Why does it have to be the Microsoft headers?
 
user1804599
Lol, somebody downvoted my language spec quote.
 
10:35 AM
when making pull requests is it one fork per feature?
And do I delete the fork if the PR is accepted?
 
no
you can keep the fork and just update it from the upstream remote after the PR is accepted
 
ok ty ty
if I want to create two PRs do I branch my fork?
 
user1804599
lol, the average question score of is higher than the average question score of
 
user1804599
must be really bad, then.
 
create a separate feature branch that is branched from master rather than your first PR
 
10:39 AM
or more people using ?
 
has more questions
 
user1646075
@rightfold generation Potato
 
Did you try writing C# with VS & R# @rightfold?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
I don't use VS ever.
 
10:41 AM
I think VS makes sens for C# without having tried any other editor
 
user1646075
@JohanLarsson vim can edit C#
 
yeah, so can Notepad
 
user1646075
@JohanLarsson wow, notepad has come a long way.
 
But I don't know Vim so I dunno.
 
user1804599
I don't write C# code ever, either.
 
10:51 AM
7
Q: Can I use cd../.. as an alias name?

Thomas W.I am using Windows and Ubuntu in parallel and do console stuff on both of them. On Windows I can do a C:\Users\Thomas>cd..\.. C:\> However, on Linux this does not work, neither with backslashes nor with forward slashes. 21:17:10 $ cd../.. bash: cd../..: No such file or directory Since I of...

This reminds me of your thing, @rightfold
 
user1804599
holy shit autoenv
 
user1646075
@Rapptz hmmmm - I used to have functions or alii called cd+ and cd- but that was on ksh I think...
 
user1646075
and bash supports that...
 
user1804599
alias 1='cd -'
alias 2='cd -2'
alias 3='cd -3'
alias 4='cd -4'
alias 5='cd -5'
alias 6='cd -6'
alias 7='cd -7'
alias 8='cd -8'
alias 9='cd -9'
 
user1804599
10:55 AM
Woo neat.
 
@rightfold Hey rightfold
@rightfold I love you ;-;
 
user1646075
@MohammadAliBaydoun homo
 
user1804599
I don't love you.
 
user1646075
all from a little picture. it's remarkable how desperate people can be.
 
@rightfold I love you more than Cat loves hating things
 
user1804599
11:06 AM
I don't give a shit.
 
why so grumpy?
 
Bootstrap makes me grumpy.
 
I don't care! Some day, our love will bloom ~
 
user1646075
/sniff - I guess there's no room for me in your heart then
 
I'm hungry.
 
11:09 AM
 
NO, NO!
I love all my hoes equally
 
user1646075
@MohammadAliBaydoun Mrs. Palmer's five daughters?
 
user1804599
12:14 PM
It's so silly when software says "please."
 
12:33 PM
It's not silly at all.
 
user1804599
It's silly, useless and terrible.
 
user1804599
It almost as bad as people saying "please" in Stack Overflow answers.
 
user1804599
 
user1646075
@rightfold don't misunderestimate the power of anthropomorphism
 
user1646075
most of the people in the world are irrational
 
user1804599
I love Perl so much.
 
Lol, I've just done the rudest most n00bish thing a programmer can do
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum manually unrolled a for loop?
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I sent Barbara Liskov a cold email asking her to look at a SO question :D
 
user1804599
$structure_name =~ s/((^|_)(\w))/\U$3/g; is just so beautiful.
 
12:59 PM
if by beautiful you mean horrendously ugly then yes.
 

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