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1:01 PM
> This is not the sort of question usually liked on stackoverflow because it is "likely to generate opinions and suggestions rather than factual answers". However I have asked it anyway because these are matters which I would like help and suggestions with as well as factual answers, and there isn't anywhere else on the net which is as good a place to ask it. -- So please, don't close my question until I have got some useful information from it.
You read that and didn't just VTC -1?
 
lol he rolled back my edit
> Finished editing after these idiots messed it up
 
Xeo
> So please, don't close my question until I have got some useful information from it.
No, f-word you.
AND SOMEONE ACTUALLY ANSWERED AAAAAARGH
 
Using new and delete is not relevant to the performance of float and double is it? I was hoping for answers not idiocy. — Edward Bird 10 secs ago
 
What a shithead.
 
I think he might be trolling
hard to say
because those people do exist
but they rarely reach out for help
 
Xeo
1:05 PM
So, best close reason? I'm torn between "too broad" and "unclear"
 
Still no 'asshattery' close reason?
 
You could technically make one.
 
OT for "This question appears to be off-topic because it is about helping a shithead"?
 
But it'd get us in trouble with meta again
 
Oh well, once more or once less
"It was an accident"
 
1:06 PM
@Xeo too broad
 
Xeo
This is a good answer, thank you. Could you explain the concept of vectoring in more detail, I am not familiar with it. — Edward Bird 1 min ago
 
@Rapptz I did.
I'm voting to close because I honestly don't like the selfish attitude prevalent in "don't close my question until I have got some useful information from it." and the question itself opens with a justification for closure, so why should I not vote to close it? — R. Martinho Fernandes 1 min ago
Basically, close because f-word you.
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I'm amused by the number of relevunt misspellings of relivant in this comment thread — sehe 13 secs ago
 
Guys, I figured it out
> Studying Physics at the University of Manchester.
 
@sehe Upboated even before you cc it here
 
1:09 PM
He's a physics major.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Damn you're quick
 
@SamDeHaan Oooh makes sense
 
Xeo
@sehe That's what she said.
 
oh god he rolled it back again
 
why are people wasting time with that question
 
Xeo
1:10 PM
just ignore it now
 
well, with that OP
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Don't do edit wars
 
Let me have my toy
 
Just flag for mod and let them do it
:v
Delegation is a key to success
 
@ParkYoung-Bae YEAH! He did it!
@sehe Unfortunately my spelling isn't perfect, but that not really relevant to the question either. — Edward Bird 45 secs ago
 
1:12 PM
@sehe Champagne!
Who the fuck voted reopen
 
90% chance he posted it to reddit
 
lol @jalf
 
They'll reopen anything
 
@SamDeHaan "Look SO are assholes"
 
He has 8xNotable, 1xFamous
 
1:14 PM
Do you think he posted in /r/c or /r/cplusplus
 
both
aren't they the same, after all?
 
It's r/cpp, no?
 
Maybe, I don't check those
 
it is
 
It's always interesting how some people sabotage their own questions
 
1:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Looks like both exist, cpp being more active
 
I couldn't find a question on meta about what to do when OP is a dick
 
Heh. Another one of his questions:
> Measuring it with a stopwatch I think it runs about 6 times slower! EDIT: Now using the computer and clock() function to tell the time.
 
if he'd cut out all the irrelevant nonsense, it could have been a perfectly valid question. But saying "I don't think this is a question suited for SO, but I'm asking it anyway so please don't close it" is a pretty dumb approach
 
lol, rollback war on the tags.
 
Join us @Cat
 
1:17 PM
No
Fuck SO
 
:awee:
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Q: Floating point arithmatic in C

Edward BirdNote: This is both a C and C++ question. The method of IO is not relevant to the performance of the program. Yesterday I asked which of the data types float or double would likely be faster in calculations on the Raspberry Pi. I didn't understand that the Raspberry Pi CPU has an ALU capable of b...

Round 2 guise
> Does this question look familiar to you? It got trolled last time.
Close as dupe <3
 
Terrible.
Why bother?
 
user1804599
> possible duplicate
 
user1804599
> possible
 
Yes I love this message
 
1:20 PM
@ParkYoung-Bae It's tagged C only.
 
Also he even worsed tags ^ cf this
 
@ParkYoung-Bae You f-worded up.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae arithmancy
@CatPlusPlus f-word, you mean :p
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is this valid C? data[j] = float(rand());
 
don't see why not
 
1:21 PM
@jalf I have medication against arithma
 
@Rapptz It's not. C doesn't have function call conversion syntax.
 
Xeo
lol
 
Guess not
 
@rightfold while we're at it
"We don't want parametric polymorphism because we like duplicated code with less static guarantees." - honest feature refusal
I just had to call another person an ignoramus today
f-word the dumb people are so sneaky.
 
Bartek is on a crusade against dumb people.
 
user1804599
1:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Funny how base is still full of duplication, which is totally unnecessary in Haskell.
 
There's an easy way to know which bits you forgot to convert to C: run the code through a C compiler. — R. Martinho Fernandes 59 secs ago
I think this has the right amount of helpful and the right amount of "f-word, you're dumb".
 
He got a re-open vote on the duplicate too trollolol
 
user1804599
@SamDeHaan I smell sockpuppets.
 
He used register :allears:
 
user1804599
They smell pretty bad.
 
1:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus It's for the purformances
 
@rightfold I smell people who don't like the Lounge.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Fantastic, thank you for another helpful comment. I posted this from another computer because Raspberry Pi's happen to be really quite slow, especially when running heavyweight websites like stackoverflow. — Edward Bird 47 secs ago
 
@BartekBanachewicz No need to censor, we're all adults here.
 
Is this guy going on SO from his Pi
That would make perfect sense
 
@EtiennedeMartel :thejoke:
@ParkYoung-Bae No that's Mysticial
 
1:31 PM
42 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@thecoshman Start here http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/17820421#17820421
 
You don't joke with fuck.
 
I can only joke
Also y'all need to get out more (but not if there's a sun, sun is evil and hurts)
 
@CatPlusPlus :no:
 
@rightfold Well the tuples might well be implemented without code repetition
 
@CatPlusPlus Sun's actually pretty cool. It keeps us alive and shit.
 
1:31 PM
but I don't think it's relevant
however
 
user1804599
I'm more worried about stuff like filter and sort.
 
> However, every Haskell implementation must support tuples up to size 15, together with the instances for Eq, Ord, Bounded, Read, and Show.
 
Also, vitamin D intake.
 
now this requirement combined with the fact that @DonS said that the tuples are deliberately limited
kind of spurs such weird explicit implementations
 
@ParkYoung-Bae Gee, as if we cared where he posted from.
 
1:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel It huuuuuuuurts
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sry my breadtoaster does not support GCC
 
@CatPlusPlus Don't look at it directly and you'll be fine.
 
I'm not fine
 
user1804599
So I have this cumulative bar chart where one bar is higher than the one following it and without negative numbers in the data set.
 
user1804599
How fun!
 
1:35 PM
Yes this makes sense
> Body is missingBody is missing
lol he nuked his pseudo question
goodbye, you will be missed
 
@milleniumbug use the rollback tool. You f-worded up the tags.
 
@rightfold This can't be a rigid type variable, you need a class at least. -
 
@milleniumbug use the rollback tool. You f-worded up the body.
Gee.
 
Sorry, data race happened while editing.
 
I want headphones with cooling.
 
1:47 PM
@milleniumbug BTW it's a C++ question wink wink
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes FUCK this idea!
 
Butt, this video made me laugh... Has a slight NSFW factor.
@sbi What the F-word?
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes How about listening to cool music?
@TonyTheLion FUCK the f-word!
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@ParkYoung-Bae Changed the code in there to C code since the author wanted so desperately for it to be the C question ;)
 
liftTup :: (x -> f x) -> (a, b) -> (f a, f b)
liftTup liftFunc (t, v) = (liftFunc t, liftFunc v)
IDGI
 
1:50 PM
@TonyTheLion Reminds me of Swoozie.
Incidentally all his videos have him as recommendations.
 
second usage of liftFunc v apparently means that v :: b
 
@sbi See? That's what I said.
19 mins ago, by Etienne de Martel
You don't joke with fuck.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What don't you get?
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel You don't FUCK with FUCK!
 
Remember that a and b are determined by the caller
 
1:51 PM
With that said, I have to go to work now. Kinda need to justify my salary, ya know.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus It. He said so.
 
@CatPlusPlus it's complicated :(
 
And since the function return value is fully polymorphic, it can be determined to be either a or b just fine
 
so I have to explicitely state that f is polymorphic?
 
1:52 PM
@EtiennedeMartel .salary { text-align: justify; }
 
f x is polymorphic
 
> This is kinda sexist because girls can be stolen,raped, and murdered so they go in groups to feel safe or they both(or how many) have to go!
When I'm at a restrant with my friend and parents I don't want to leave my friend with my parents so she comes! So stop judging!
Ah youtube.
 
I remember why I blocked these comments again.
 
1:53 PM
@Rapptz It's true because men can't be stolen, raped, and murdered.
 
@Rapptz Yay, I can't be murdered.
 
@CatPlusPlus Okey now I don't understand what f x is
 
@CatPlusPlus Video about going to the bathroom.
 
@BartekBanachewicz a KPOP group
 
> girls can be stolen
 
1:53 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Anything it needs to be
 
@CatPlusPlus is it arbitrary type wrapping x
 
All women should undergo surgery to be men so we can finally put an end to murder.
 
@milleniumbug grand theft chick
 
> Women usually go in groups for safety reasons. It's not uncommon for girls to go in groups whenever they're at a club, social outting or concert. Safety in numbers.
 
please oh please let it be it
 
1:54 PM
lol these are the top comments
pretty weird
 
I added the youtube comment div to my adblock list
 
I really don't see what you find confusing here
 
Y'all should do the same
 
Replace liftFunc with Just
 
Yeah I did too.
 
1:55 PM
liftTup' :: (a, b) -> (Maybe a, Maybe b)
liftTup' (t, v) = (Just t, Just v)
 
Just is a type constructor
 
But sometimes I unblock it because I miss it
Stockholm syndrome and what not
 
does it make it special in this regard?
 
liftTup' == liftTup Just
 
1:56 PM
I like YouTube comments.
They're funny.
Just pretend they weren't written by actual human beings.
 
@CatPlusPlus source btw
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz forall
 
f-word you rightfold you made me understand how much I don't understand
 
F-worded up, huh?
 
You can stop that now
 
2:00 PM
I f-wording can't.
 
Also I never remember about rankn
 
> Humans Aren’t the Pinnacle of Evolution and Consciousness—We're Only a Rung on the Ladder
:scoop:
 
But the equation still stands, it just needs a bit different signature :v
 
Next up: The Sky Isn't Green - It's Blue! Scientists say.
 
@CatPlusPlus I just wanted to understand that in more deep
 
2:01 PM
Also f-word these capitalized titles
 
apparently nobody f-wording cares
 
@ParkYoung-Bae The "sky" does not have a color silly.
@BartekBanachewicz No you too, please.
 
@Jefffrey Color me silly
 
silly is a beautiful color
 
I think I got wrong change from the shop a week ago
I should pay more attention to that
 
2:06 PM
@IInspectable I dont know what sscce is. I know how to use stackoverflow though. I have flagged your comment as rude. — Edward Bird Nov 9 '13 at 22:21
 
LOL
The second reply is great
@IInspectable I'm not interested, thanks. — Edward Bird Nov 9 '13 at 23:22
 
@Jefffrey you know that thread was a year old, right?
 
Nope.
 
forM_ [''Foo, ''Bar] generateLens
 
terrible nice mice
 
2:09 PM
it's fucking sick
 
Sick nasty
 
I am not sure whether sick means "awesome" or "ill" in this context yet
 
@Jefffrey Should have replied "I'm not interested, thanks"
 
@Jefffrey Still trolling? I think everyone else got bored 20 minutes ago now. I think it's a bit sad that you've bothered to read all my other questions looking for something to play off. I recon most people would probably agree with me too. — Edward Bird 46 secs ago
What is he talking about? /cc @milleniumbug
 
You did dig up a year old thread.
 
2:11 PM
that guy depresses me :(
 
It is sad
 
@BartekBanachewicz depends on if "ill" means "awesome" or "sick" in this context.
 
Hm
Bread's expiry date is 2 days ago but it doesn't seem to be molded
Safe y/n
 
n
 
2:14 PM
no visible colonies? eat a small bite, wait an hour, see what your reaction is.
 
@Jefffrey Hmmm, with "trolling", he's apparently referring to this question, and with "reading all my other questions" he's referring to the fact that the question is old, and I did dig out his comment.
 
I didn't get sick last time I ate molded bread.
Just a few weird dreams.
 
@CatPlusPlus smell it.
 
It smells like bread
Bread always smells like bread
 
should be fine. Bad bread smells bad pretty quickly.
 
2:15 PM
> @Everyone else Stop editing my question I am trying to format it correctly.
 
Xeo
> You are in a dark kitchen, a loaf of bread in front of you.
> smell bread
 
> I don't know how to 'smell'
Well my food money is getting thin and 2 weeks till paycheck so I guess I'm eating it either way
If it could survive another week that'd be perfect
 
@sbi :O thinking of the fucking children!
 
user1804599
PHP y u no array_scan.
 
2:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Indeed it's a very old question of mine. It was supposed to be more about why it might not work, rather than the code. The code wasn't a problem because it worked fine on another OS. But obviously you're an idiot, so I can't expect you to be able to figure that out. — Edward Bird 32 secs ago
 
@thecoshman Good thing you didn't forget the article there!
 
Cling-film does not make for a comfy day og work
 
> Unfortunately my spelling isn't perfect, but that not really relevant to the question either.
 
Hello there!
 
ahahaha
 
sbi
2:18 PM
@thecoshman If them kids are FUCKING I doubt we need to lose sleep over their innocence.
 
Random musical link incoming...
Awesome.
 
@CatPlusPlus Parser Error 69: Not enough fuck
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@VáclavZeman nice idea. (he's using a delay).
 
@sbi oooh, glad you went for the innocent interpretation... trafficing (sp?) is not a fun subject
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬ what sort?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I have no idea what does that mean in musical/guitar performance sense. I just like the video :)
 
2:21 PM
He played a bit, recorded it and then put it on while playing another bit
iirc
 
nah
it works in realtime
 
No I know that
 
like you don't have to prerecord anything
@thecoshman a regular one with very high wet level and low feedback
 
it's pre-recorded live, silly
My god I forget how much bullshit guitar playing involves
 
There's only so much you can do with one guitar
 
2:24 PM
@thecoshman it's really pretty simple
 
Everything has terrible bullshit fuzzy terms for it.
 
uh "dry/wet" is common sound engineering wording
and "feedback" is fairly straightforward in this case
 
@CatPlusPlus well standard guitars are lacking a few features IMO, like an internet connection
 
basically if you have 100% wet (or 50% mix) and 0% feedback, every sound you make will be repeated exactly once at exactly the same volume
 
That's what she said
 
2:26 PM
@BartekBanachewicz just read up the term, never heard it use before
 
more feedback means it will repeat more times, albeit attenuated
 
though what I read said full wet is no original sound, just fx sound 50:50 wet dry would be even of both...
 
I usually call it "mix" (and some manufacturers do the same)
 
@thecoshman Don't say that in front of Bartek!
Oh, too late.
 
I actually thought of making a pedal that would let you control the blend of two channels. So you could have two loops of effects, and fade from one to the other with a rocker.
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv he's just a silly hipster
 
2:29 PM
@thecoshman Those exist. Not very useful.
 
I can confirm it exists I saw it on YouTube
 
@BartekBanachewicz not surprised, nothing too fancy. But it felt like a nice place to start with custom pedals, passive stuff is fairly safe :P
 
@thecoshman this is quite funny considering what you've written above that
 
Same song, with additional live drums https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLgUbMXEk2w.
 
Had 'plans' to make a fuzz pedal too, but you know how these things don't go
@BartekBanachewicz huh?
 
2:31 PM
@thecoshman huehuehuheuhue 69
huehuheuhue
 
@thecoshman fuzz is pretty straightforward to do pretty shitty
 
@Jefffrey funny how my die rolled that number isn't it
@BartekBanachewicz o_0 not sure what you are trying to say
it's an easy effect to do badly?
 
that it's easy in principle and f-wording hard to make it sound good
you can get parts for a simple fuzz that will work like a fuzz for dunno $10, but it will ultimately sound like total shit
 
¬_¬ it might be time to start binning improper swearing, me an my ten second old religion find it very insulting.
@BartekBanachewicz well, there are so many schematics for fuxx effects, all so very different
 
they are all equally terrible, unless you mean actual designs from serious manufacturers
but then you end up with another Pi clone :f
 
2:34 PM
yeah, schematics people have done from existing pedals from the likes of Boss
 
IMHO an analog delay would be a cool pedal to make
and in that case shitty distortions are the whole fun.
 
@BartekBanachewicz meh, tape delay :P
 
or dunno, a spring reverb.
 
yeah, spring reverb could be interesting
 
@thecoshman or a bigass tube with speaker at one end and mic at another :D
@thecoshman my old shitty amp has one (and I suspect it's a shitty handmade own design)
it looks fairly simple
 
2:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz ... you ain't getting much delay like that
 
@thecoshman you need a really big tube
 
Make it a truck trailer.
 
@BartekBanachewicz not much to it really. long spring, pickup near it, small amp maybe
@BartekBanachewicz sound travels through air fairly fast, and tubes don't change that much
something like mercury tubes might be cool, if not just for the fact it uses mercury :P
 
@thecoshman Make it two truck trailers.
 
@thecoshman you could compress the signal in theory
 
2:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz ergh? In what way?
 
ḁḷḽ᷃ṝṍᶏᶁᶚ᷇ḻḝᴀᴆᵔᵵᴏ′Ṁὅӟↄѳὣ¶
 
you could filer a Hz range maybe...
 
Delay line memory was a form of computer memory used on some of the earliest digital computers. Like many modern forms of electronic computer memory, delay line memory was a refreshable memory, but as opposed to modern random-access memory, delay line memory was sequential-access. Analog delay line technology has been used since the 1920s to delay the propagation of analog signals. When a delay line is used as a memory device, an amplifier and a pulse shaper are connected between the output of the delay line and the input. The memory capacity is determined by dividing the time taken to transmit...
 
ᾧόὸᵮ¹ᾧόὸᵮ¶
 
ITT Lightness found Zalgo.
 
2:43 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ᾧό
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes... and compression fits in where?
 
> Top 10 Programming Languages
Spectrum’s 2014 Ranking http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/top-10-programming-languages
 
@Borgleader I'll do some clean up of the existing functionality, get it to a semi-stable API, finish the docs and make a usable release with all the bells and whistles.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes all of them?
 
@AlexM. Matlab more used than HTML?
 
2:49 PM
that's what it says lol
 
> Essentially a version of C with built-in support for "objects"--self-contained modules of code and data--C++ proved to be a natural fit for software driven by graphical user interfaces.
 
@ParkYoung-Bae so much stupid :(
I find it fascinating that we in the software industry have created this myth that we're intelligent and competent, despite the mountains of obvious evidence to the contrary
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apparently we've got a knack for PR, at least
 
well
we may not be anywhere near as intelligent and competent as we could be, but we're clearly better than the available alternatives... most of the time
 
there was some tweet the other day along the lines "Programming is really hard and takes really smart people, but so far, that does not seem to have stopped us"
5
 
we just can't get enough programmers like me to write all the software we need
 
2:55 PM
@Puppy luckily so
 
@Puppy can you think of a field that is richer in cargoculting and superstition and irrational beliefs based on zero evidence?
 
no
but nor can I think of another field that completely reinvents itself every ten years or so
 
"herp derp, GUI is code and data, and C++ supports code and data, therefore C++ has proven to be a natural fit for GUI". Not just "is" or "might be", but has proven to be
Actual real-world evidence is irrelevant
 
@Puppy Completely?
 
2:57 PM
@jalf religion?
 
well, it's probably not completely, but it's not that far off.
 
FWIW, I think automotive engineering reinvents huge parts of itself at such a rate.
 
@thecoshman you wish but just look at the massive outbreak of islamitis all across Europe
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes
it runs in my family too
in most families, actually
 
@ParkYoung-Bae are you telling me transistors are not real :O
 
2:58 PM
true, but I don't think you need automotive engineers on the same scale.
 
@Puppy cars got be carred
 
and I also think that you don't need anywhere near as many, say, physicists, as you do programmers.
 
I have a saying
 
you can't just take the cream of the programming crop because that just leaves you with too few programmers.
 
2:59 PM
I don't want to deal with authentication :(
 
@AlexM. so do I, "Fuck off"
 
that Romanians are the best at thinking they're the worst
 
authentication hurts my brain
 
In any case, it's probably the best you can get for any kind of potential comparison.
 

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