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6:00 AM
wtf 2 months wait for the iphone 6 that I have ordered, didn't the sales lady say 2-3 weeks?
 
@chmod711telkitty She lied!
 
thanks for stating the obvious ...
 
@chmod711telkitty No problem.
:)
Well, last time I bought anything it were beds. They claimed 14 days top delivery time. It took them about 5 weeks.
Unless you it on the spot, expect delays.
 
my record was a solar toy - took them 5 months to deliver
 
user1646075
6:14 AM
@chmod711telkitty unfortunately, a large shipment was dropped 10cm at the shipyard, and all the phone in the shipping container were bent.
 
user1646075
didn't you hear that on the news?
 
So you haven't decided what languages ... in short : yes you can parse using Boost Spirit. And no there is not enough information to recommend anything (other than "don't do it", "you're underestimating this", "don't reinvent the wheel" etc). Oh and an IDE with anything near that feature set will by definition not be "tiny" — sehe 4 mins ago
Dat clueless comment exchange
 
Hey guys I'm back!!!!!!!!!!
What did I miss?
 
user1646075
@sehe heh - young folks. so sweet
 
user1646075
actually, his profile suggests he should know better
 
6:57 AM
morning
 
user1646075
a very quiet morning. Let's keep it that way.
 
egh.... so very tired
 
user1804599
7:16 AM
@ScottW hi
 
@Feeds o_0 well that's something I don't remember happening
 
user1646075
@thecoshman that's what's so good about drunk logic.
 
user1804599
 
@thecoshman drunk you thought it was a good idea
 
@TonyTheLion apparently so
 
7:23 AM
how drunk were you?
 
drunk enough to not remember doing that
 
not that hung over though...
oh well
 
user1804599
@Borgleader the Dutch word for "sausage" is actually "worst" :D
 
@thecoshman that's a good thing, no?
 
7:26 AM
@TonyTheLion the later part yes.
 
bwa
I'm not feeling motivated today
 
user1804599
IT'S FRIDAY
 
It should have been Saturday
 
agreed
 
user1804599
> I hereby declare that henceforth this Saturday shall be known as Fry-day!
 
user1804599
7:31 AM
If you reinterpret_cats, you'll think nobody thinks anything is terrible.
 
you suck
 
user1804599
cock
 
> reinterpret_cats
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion /etc/hosts
 
user1804599
7:34 AM
@TonyTheLion Oh wait, let me apply that.
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion I am indeed awesome!
 
go write some more PHP
 
user1804599
No, Python.
 
user1804599
> street='Bratwurststraße',
 
Python is great
 
user1804599
7:35 AM
Python is terrible
 
s/Python/everything
 
your python is terrible
 
user1804599
I like my boa constructor better.
 
boa ();
^ boa constructor
 
user1804599
class Boa:
    def __init__(self): # python boa constructor
        pass
 
7:38 AM
let me know when Terrible Joke Hour is over
 
its never over
 
user1804599
> Boa Constructor is a cross platform Python IDE and wxPython GUI Builder.
 
you should know that now
 
user1804599
 
> Foto iStockphoto
lol
2
Q: Inconsistent declaration and definition in C

PeterToday I have spend considerable time finding a "bug" that can be demonstrated by this simple code: main.c #include "func.h" #include <stdio.h> void main(){printf("func: %f", getX());} func.c #include "func.h" static float x[2] = {1.0f, 2.0f}; float getX(int n){return x[n];} func.h float g...

actually a good question
 
user1804599
7:48 AM
lol C
 
Xeo
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
THEY ARE AT IT AGAIN
 
user1804599
UCK
 
Xeo
IT'S NOT EVEN FUCKING 10AM
 
for them its "FUCKING 10AM"
 
user1804599
7:50 AM
lol
 
You have to go and say something when they're not ... busy
Are they new neighbours?
@Xeo From the sounds of things (literally), I'm quite sure that it is "fucking 10am".
 
some people like to fuck before they go to work
some people like to fuck at work
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit She is, her bf seems to be coming over just for boning her or something
@TonyTheLion It's a national holiday
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I knew I shouldn't have said it that way
 
@Xeo People should be allowed to fuck on a holiday
 
Xeo
Sure
IF THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING DOING IT
 
7:52 AM
maybe they work in demolition?
 
@Xeo good for them :D
 
@rightfold I find it amusing how accurately Dutch can be translated into English with remarkably little effort. You may as well just speak English.
 
Dutch is basically English in another language
 
@Xeo When you speak to her, lie and say that you had very young cousins siblings staying with you overnight and it was incredibly awkward when they were woken up by loud porn noises.
 
Xeo
That may actually happen soonish why I have my younger brother over. Also, there's another family with a kid here.
 
7:54 AM
Buy a drumkit
drown out the noise
 
Xeo
My other neighbours have a digital drum kit for their kid :o
 
Xeo
That one's pretty silent though, I like it
 
yea that's the point
 
Xeo
I can only hear it when I'm out in the hallway
 
7:55 AM
you can just plug in headphones
 
Xeo
well, you still hear the noise of hitting the pads
 
my neighbors have a small child that cries incessantly late at night
 
Xeo
but that's nothing compared to those two rabbits above me
 
I'm in a terrace, but the houses are large and with a retired couple on one side and a massively introverted PhD student on the other, I have no problems. :)
 
I rarely actually see my neighbors
 
7:58 AM
ergh... time for work I guess
 
Xeo
Ugh, I think those fuckers actually woke me up today.
I can already imagine what the rest of the weekend is gonna be like...
 
At least you're happy, @Xeo.
 
Xeo
I'd be happy if I was still sleeping right now
 
How do you know?
 
8:11 AM
@Xeo Look at the positive side, now that you're awake you can have the entire day to do a lot of things.
 
Oracle is still using MD5 to offer verification of their JDK binaries? oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/…
 
You'd still have to try quite hard to inject a vulnerability into one of those binaries while keeping the MD5 the same.
MD5 is broken in that it is relatively easy to "decrypt", but we're talking about password-length strings there.
 
MD5 is broken in that it's easy to find collisions
 
@Borgleader "Why were the Indians here first"
 
And it was demonstrated on binaries too
 
8:16 AM
AMERICENTRICISM DETECTED
@CatPlusPlus Yes it's easy to find collisions, but finding random collisions isn't very useful if you want to give someone a JDK binary that does some specific malicious thing
 
Someone work for me today I'm tired
 
Xeo
no, I have a holiday - no work for me
 
I need to figure out Varnish
Current config gets us hit ratio of like 1%
 
I have a fuckton of shit to do
 
Which makes cached version actually slower than non-cached one :lol:
 
8:21 AM
I'll prolly have to work on the weekend
I guess as long as it works
no customer I've seen cares about the code
no manager I've seen cares about the code
 
Xeo
I care about the code I have to revisit in 5 months :<
 
the only thing they care about is "When is it finished?" and "Why doesn't this do what I think it should do?"
 
Not really
 
should really pay more attention to writing better code
 
Someone will make that code ugly, hackish and half-broken anyway
 
8:25 AM
I don't write singletons
I haven't sunk that deep
sometimes I'll spend a few hours refactoring things
 
Easy is not fun
 
refactoring can be quite satisfying
esp when you do it over the weekend when there's no one to disturb you every other minute
I don't strive for perfect, just better
 
Apparently some Busybox builds might be vulnerable to shellshock
hide yo routers
 
@CatPlusPlus and probably also ash - dev.openwrt.org/ticket/17978
 
ash shouldn't be
 
8:35 AM
welp I won't be surprised if they just copy all that buggy code from one shell to another
 
user1804599
Ugh, Dropbox is so slow.
 
user1804599
Uploading 30 MB takes like 10 minutes.
 
It's you
youre slow
 
It's most likely you.
 
What do you think about that grid system rightfold
Singularity
 
user1804599
8:40 AM
I did not look at it.
 
user1804599
Does it use flexbox?
 
Butte
Dunno
 
user1804599
Flexbox is isomorphic to orgasm.
 
user1804599
It's so flexible!
 
@CatPlusPlus the busybox version we use at work is not vuln
 
8:52 AM
ugh the busybox in MobaXterm is vulnerable. ah, there is an update
 
@VáclavZeman playfully simulating a rape attempt, I would say. Perhaps a new marketing thing
 
morning all, can I ask one nice soul for a cv on this ? just one needed
 
9:00 AM
good mawning
 
moaning
 
@AndyProwl re: the Prior Art stuff in a paper, I'd put it at the end of a concrete proposal, but after the introduction in a more research type of paper
the difference is that a research paper often describes the journey, while a proposal shoudl just focus on what you want, not what others did
 
@TemplateRex so it would be OK to have, say, the design goals section immediately after the introduction, even though the design goals are quite related to the shortcomings of the existing solutions?
it would be some sort of "forward-reference"
 
> Smelling like a cat
 
@AndyProwl your design goals are independent of other shortcomings, I'd say
Intro, Goals, why it hasnt been done AKA why others fail, ...etc.
 
9:04 AM
@TemplateRex well, the proposal exists because I'm not satisfied with existing solutions, and overcoming their drawbacks is the main goal
 
@AndyProwl that's a negative formulation. you are not repairing other stuff, you are proposing a direct solution to a coding problem
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You spend too much time on imgur
 
@TemplateRex fair enough. So should the related works be a sort of appendix?
 
so in motivation you should find use cases on what you want to express directly. those are your design goals
then you can discuss in the prior art section what indirect ways currently exist, and why they are suboptimal (too verbose, not performant etc.)
 
9:08 AM
the way I structured it now is: 1) describe the problem and briefly mention my approach; 2) describe existing solutions and explain why they are not satisfactory; 3) explain my solution
this structure makes logical sense to me
 
@AndyProwl that sounds about right, but the 1) section should really emphasize that you are tackling something head-on, and it should outline the use case very clearly
then 3) can describe the implementation to the spec outline in 1)
 
I think LRIO surpassed (Griwes + kitty) combined in image posting rate. Which is quite impressive.
 
2) is then just summary of workarounds
but again, you are doing a prototype to see if you can get it to work, which will probably not be the same thing you are going to propose in the end (if and when things work out)
 
@TemplateRex At the moment 1) is a general introduction to the problem and a statement of what kind of solution I have in mind (i.e. introducing language support).
@TemplateRex that's also true
perhaps I'm focusing on unimportant details
 
@AndyProwl it's very important to get people's attention right away on what you want. because your approach is very new, if you lose them on page 1 or 2, they won't read the rest
"the types don't know #" paper by Hinnant is very good to get inspiration from
 
9:12 AM
true, although there's the abstract for quickly catching attention
@TemplateRex thanks for the tip
 
hmm, although the Hinnant paper first dismisses all the other workarounds, before introducting its own solution :)
but there the alternatives are very simple to dismiss. Anyway, use your common sense and see how many people read the paper until the end :-)
 
honestly that makes sense to me, because the first thing that comes to someone's mind when you propose a solution to a problem which already has a solution is "but wait, before you waste my time reading up all the details of your shit, what's wrong with the existing solutions"?
 
@AndyProwl assuming people understand the problem domain already
 
@TemplateRex true, but I would expect that of my target audience
 
BTW, I recently got the umpteenth Professional Writing course at my employer. The teacher was a big fan of the Newspaper article style: catchy headline, first paragraph summary, and then fleshing out the rest
@AndyProwl btw, anything to share yet?
 
9:18 AM
@TemplateRex I only have the introduction and the structure, so nothing technical. Care to take a look?
 
@AndyProwl sure
 
@TemplateRex cool, let me upload it
 
Watching James McNellis / Kate Gregory at CppCon, both are pretty awesome presenters (even though their material is well known)
 
@TemplateRex here (thanks)
 
@mans I've linked to the documentation page for cmd.exe options. Start with the simpler things if you don't feel like reading the documentation yet. (Hint: try cmd.exe /k dir once) — sehe 14 secs ago
People expect to get things in < 2s. Yet they spend >10s more than once requesting more information.
 
People are self-sabotagingly lazy
@Sofffia liftoffrc, xib, nibs... what sorcery is this?
 
Scroll down
 
ahahaha. derail much
> I like lamps. I got this SICK lamp once ... it was a major award. They sent it to me in a box with "Fra-gee-lay" written all over it.
 
That one is special
 
CALL DA AMBERLAMBS
 
9:32 AM
@sehe possibly
 
Good morning I've a simple question ^_ ^
 
@Sofffia mlyp
 
^_ ^
 
@mouse Do you know the answer?
 
simpol quasions are the bane of the lounge
26 mins ago, by sehe
I think LRIO surpassed (Griwes + kitty) combined in image posting rate. Which is quite impressive.
 
9:38 AM
@Sofffia I have written a particular 'identifier' about 8 times. Should I wish to change it, I'd have to rewrite all of those. Now I wonder, how do I make a simple 'compile-time alias' to a 'const class'? Does that make sense?
 
> mlyp: Much like your post, used on forums as a lame comeback.
stop being lame
 
@TonyTheLion mlyp
 
user1804599
m little y pony?
 
y pony?
 
user1804599
9:39 AM
I almost spilled coke.
 
@rightfold I thought that too first, but then I wondered why Cat would talk about my little pony
 
user1804599
m little y pony, not my little pony
 
      42         0.00         0.02 client_conn - Client connections accepted
     794         0.00         0.44 client_req - Client requests received
       1         0.00         0.00 cache_miss - Cache misses
There are no cache hits
793 requests are just nothing
 
user1804599
No, GCC's flags are not standardized. — rightfold 15 mins ago
 
@mouse That's not what I've asked
 
9:40 AM
So my first guess was to make an alias like so:
`Font &font = monospace;`

However, would a #define be more straightforward?
 
lol wohnzimmer
 
user1804599
Never use #define unless there are no other options. If there are no other options, reconsider.
 
I'm trying to use a simple alias for my comfort is all. I will avoid #define anyway.
 
user1804599
auto const& font = monospace;
 
I'm aiming for a 'compile-time' alias, if that makes sense.
 
9:42 AM
for ~~~prufrumance~~~ I guess?
 
Sorry what ^_ ^
 
How do you spell that word?
purfeurmance?
prufurnance?
I give up
 
@rightfold Thanks. Is this like... 'optimized away' by the compiler?
 
@AndyProwl nice intro
 
@Sofffia prew freww mance
 
could you give two code examples that illustrate the two graphs? (a la the Design Patterns book)
 
user1804599
@mouse Yes.
 
user1804599
Most likely.
 
user1804599
And if it isn't then you probably don't care anyway.
 
@rightfold Right.
 
user1804599
9:45 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh noes!
 
Some ads really are most excellent examples of how to improve copy-writing by reducing words:
> Top 10 foods that kill blood-pressure
 
user1804599
Nice picture.
 
Would be a lot more to the point when removing the last word
 
user1804599
Donkey shot.
 
9:46 AM
@rightfold Would a pointer be less preferable, for a reason other than possibly referring null?
 
ah thank fuck; already gone through the new submissions for today
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit racist
 
user1804599
@mouse yes they are mutable.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Gosh. I've seen all these. You're moving slowly
 
user1804599
Unless you make the pointer const.
 
9:47 AM
@TemplateRex thanks
 
user1804599
But using a pointer for this is silly.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh I see
 
@sehe Did you see them within the last 1 hour?
 
So it's spelled preformance
 
@CatPlusPlus hmm?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nah. Last night, I suppose
 
9:48 AM
idgi
 
@sehe Dammit; can't blame timezones, then.
("last night"*)
 
@Sofffia ~~purrformance~~
 
@rightfold I was also wondering about 'purfurmance' ^ _^ gains over 'const'. Nobody seemed to ask it so I wonder now if I'm perhaps retarded
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit appreciated
 
@CatPlusPlus We know. We are sorry.
 
user1804599
9:49 AM
What are you doing with fonts?
 
@sehe ("appreciated"*)
 
@rightfold passing them to a 'text' ctor
 
it's 10.49
COMPUTER, ACTIVATE MUSIC
 
user1804599
ok nevermind
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You live in the past, m8.
Oh come on.
This one was good.
Ok.
I killed the lounge.
What do.
 
9:53 AM
So, it's sunny today.
 
help how do i audio ô_ô
4
 
OpenGL duh
 
@Sofffia ^ _^ Sofffia would you like to go out with me
things like bit.ly/rrrecursion are really clever and i feel you've been real useful
hello
 
As long as you are not too cheesy.
 
he only asked you cos he knows he has no chance with me
we're such pretty little liars, eh
 
9:57 AM
Yeah
 
ahahahaha
loooool+
 
Jesus Christ
better put the capital C or Mr. Imbutthurtsoiflageverything will get angry.
 
i would go out with @Sofffffffia, as long as I didn't have to stay in as well:)
 
This'll be good
 

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