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11:00 PM
don't think you can even really do fancy effects by messing with the w, just send things arse ways
 
yep
 
well, I guess you could use it to pass in extra data
then your shader can pull out that value from the 4d co-ord and swap the w with one to do the maths
 
Ell
I'm really puzzled as to why I'm manipulating my w like this then :S
and why it gives my cubes colour instead of being transparent.
 
any way, I'm off to bed, grown up stuff at bank in the morning.
 
Ell
I guess depth might mean it's z fighting or something
 
11:02 PM
@Ell vOv maybe your shaders are using it for something different, or as I said passing in extra data, not just position.
 
Ell
@thecoshman lol
 
weep
@StackedCrooked moving him into the cloud infrastructure
@rightfold tables?
 
user1804599
@sehe headers.
 
I half rukochnised this
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
11:10 PM
These are actually ==== and ----, respectively.
 
user1804599
But they are rendered the same.
 
I throw 324 baka on the ground.
 
user1804599
;_;
 
I thought 'baka' was some sort of foodstuff.
 
you baka
 
11:15 PM
@MartinJames I thought it was some porn niche
 
Ell
@MartinJames it sounds like a bean or caper of some kind
 
@Ell Yeah. maybe it's just because I'm hungry:)
 
11:32 PM
bakalva
 
@sehe Do you mean baklava, or is bakalva something different (or is bakalva just another spelling of which I wasn't aware)?
 
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
 
Ell
Hi
 
@StackedCrooked Open classes can do a lot more than add methods.
 
11:43 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaada!
 
They are horrible.
 
@StackedCrooked A method is basically syntactic sugar for a function that takes the this pointer as a hidden param and is a friend.
 
yeah.
methods are the worst!
 
Open classes can also add data members, replace methods, add bases, and a whole slew of other stuff.
 
11:46 PM
Ah. I didn't know that.
 
That's why they're horrible and open namespaces are not.
 
Ell
I used to use them all the time for extensions :p I'm terrible I know
 
open classes?
you mean like, partial classes?
 
user1804599
 
@JerryCoffin I was trying to find the middle ground
 
11:50 PM
Nope, not at all.
 
oh gawd I'm gonna have nightmares about Markov chains.
 
Ell
alias method :old_method
def method
Puts "something new!"
Old_method
End
 
partial classes are just the dissociation of classes from source files.
 
Ell
Open classes can be opened at any time
 
@rightfold Yuck--Java. How dare you?
 
11:51 PM
In other news, here's a roof that turns into a wall.
 
then I believe I've never encountered an open class?
 
You can't change stuff that was provided from a module with partial classes. It's merely a syntactic feature.
@Puppy It's a Ruby feature.
 
user1804599
@JerryCoffin Scala is great!
 
Ell
Monkey patching
 
oh, that pointlessly over-dynamic stuff
it's just as dumb as all the other pointlessly over-dynamic stuff.
 
Ell
11:52 PM
I think Python can do it too. But its frowned upon in their communitt
 
user1804599
Type classes, @functools.singledispatch or bust.
 
Ell
Its not pointless
 
@rightfold I never made it past "Import java." Have no interest in doing so either.
 
@Ell aren't they already open?
 
Ell
Not sure.
 
11:53 PM
There's also an issue with how they mess things up due to different TUs.
 
Ell
I guess they are actually yeah
 
C#'s partial classes have the same interface everywhere.
Ruby's open classes don't.
The interface changes depending on what you opened.
 
Ell
The idea isn't to break things mind
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How come you know so much about Ruby? :)
 
Ell
And you're only writing bad code by breaking interfaces
 
11:54 PM
@Ell That's why they're terrible.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh good lord! Who thought that would be a good idea (and is that misbegotten person now held in an insane asylum)?
 
user1804599
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!
 
@JerryCoffin Matz, probably
 
Ell
You can monkey patch without breaking interfaces
 
(Well, not TUs, but some sorta similar idea)
 
user1804599
11:55 PM
Monkey patching is terrible.
 
user1804599
What a horrible idea.
 
@Ell Yes, and that's pretty much either useless or something you can do without monkey patching.
 
@StackedCrooked I guess that leaves one obvious question: is he insane, or just stupid?
 
I wonder if i should go to #llvm and ask them why clang-cl fails to compile ogonek, and if they can fix it for me /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@rightfold Gorilla patching I where it's at.
 
user1804599
11:56 PM
sbi patching.
 
@JerryCoffin He seems to me like a ..confused person.
At least that's how he appears in his talks.
 
But then I'd feel like I was popping in here and drive by linking my question =/
 
@rightfold I think you associate him with this at your own (considerable) risk.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked which number am I?
 
Ell
Idk how else you might distribute security fixes without stopping a server for example
 
11:57 PM
@StackedCrooked I guess that could cover it.
 
@rightfold 1
LOL
 
@StackedCrooked I actually learned Ruby some years ago. I also like to learn about unusual/unique/whatever language features.
@Ell Erlang can do that just fine without open classes.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh yeah - that's I was thinking of, (however it is spelt).
 
Ell
I agree that they have few applications that can't be solved by alternatives
I'm not defending them
 
@rightfold you are not in the C++ list
 
11:59 PM
@MartinJames I think (at least) one of the letters is supposed to have some sort of diacritic mark above it, but I usually cheat and type it as "baklava".
 
@StackedCrooked I must N - 1, assuming 0 based indexing
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you have a look at Clojure?
 

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