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7:00 PM
@BartoszKP long time no seen
 
@sehe hi! I see a new avatar - very nice!
 
I didn't know you were blind.
 
@BartoszKP Aw. Yeah. I figured the gorilla thing had gotten old
 
Xeo
Hm, need food ideas
 
I don't know about this one yet. I don't think it'll stick
@Xeo fish
 
7:01 PM
I thought the other guy was the gorilla.
@Xeo MEATBALLS.
 
@sehe possibly some animals may find it too offensive
 
Oh. Then again, animals are delightfully primitive compared to the rest of SO flock
I love that
 
that's an important point
 
TOPIC: Puppy's a strange knight
 
in shining armour, motherfucker
I WANT MY SHINING ARMOUR
GET POLISHING NOW SLAVE
 
7:04 PM
@TemplateRex just to add to the overwhelming response you already got, my warmest welcome to you, rex
 
:DD
 
Xeo
@Puppy Oh, you found one?
 
yep
 
@aldo The "offending code" is a template instantiation. I can't see your particular code, but in the OP's case the point of instantiation is in your code and the template instantiation arguments cause the problem. They are "clearly" not in the boost header :) Repeat after me: garbage in -> garbage out. (A good mantra for header-only libraries in particular) — sehe 5 secs ago
I'm on a roll. Feeling a little bit high. Just watched Finding Nemo with the kids.
 
Xeo
7:08 PM
@Puppy Cool. Size / rent?
 
not big enough and too much
but hey.
 
hey.
 
it'll be all mine bitches
I'm suck of bussing to work
 
Xeo
@Puppy How precise.
 
it's precisely as precise as I desired to be.
 
Xeo
7:12 PM
boring
 
I apologize for not satisfying you darling
maybe next time we could just cuddle
 
Xeo
I noticed I find many things to be boring, lately.
 
it's probably depression, see your doctor
 
it's probably a tumor
 
Xeo
sup Robot
 
7:18 PM
recommended cure: program in Wide
 
user1804599
I should try Swift.
 
what, the copy-on-length-change morons?
surely even you don't want to experience that
 
On this day in 1946, physicist Richard Feynman wrote a heartbreaking letter to his dead wife: http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/02/i-love-my-wife-my-wife-is-dead.html
 
user1804599
@Puppy I give a language a try before I form an opinion.
 
yesterday, by Puppy
@sbi £300 agents fee, six weeks rent as deposit, and then first month.
(and up a bit)
 
user1804599
7:21 PM
Rather than dismissing it as "it is not C++."
 
@rightføld Well... it's not
And it's also not Taylor
 
@rightføld You're right- copy-on-length-change is considerably dumber than anything C or C++ ever did.
you need to give a language like that time to fire their current designers and hire new ones
 
evening all (except sehe)
 
all evening
 
evening piraticus
 
7:29 PM
piraticus maximus failus spellius
¬_¬ you saw nothing.
 
yeah but we already knew that
may as well introduce myself as puppyus smarticus
 
puppius headupus own assus
 
that's terrible
learn to latin dude
 
I know you are, you said you are, but... well let's not go there.
 
> What would be the utility of such machines? Who knows? Of course, a small automobile would only be useful for the mites to drive around in, and I suppose our Christian interests don't go that far.
vintage Feynman
 
7:33 PM
lol
 
7:44 PM
@FredOverflow Wew. You teach live audiences. I've only taught to student bodies.
To the downvoter: please come forward with the authoritative information in your own answer, that would help. Just FUD-ding someone else's effort is not helping this site. — sehe 7 secs ago
 
@sehe the fact that someone can't provide a better answer, doesn't mean they can't judge yours as wrong/weak/unhelpful/whatever ;0
 
DAYUM
I didn't realize that B&C's version of Apocalypse was so rockin'
 
@BartoszKP I know. However, it's also a bit of a bold move to label an answer as "bad" if you don't have solid information that it is, in fact, bad.
I'd leave it at the comment, and at +0. But that's me.
This site is not for herd thinking. We have reddit for that.
 
@sehe yeah, probably that's more reasonable
 
^ totally star worthy
 
7:53 PM
I wanted to star it, until you said that ;v
 
I agree, it was a total turnoff
 
I'm happy you guys agree. /care
It's not about the stars. It's about me saying that I was satisfied with that statement.
Mmm. It's seems I'm still a bit burnt out
 
try setting yourself on fire
that'll burn you in quickly
 
lol
3 hours ago, by rightføld
I have an idea: put no people on fire.
Of course, the sad reality is that it's circle jerking most of the time. Fortunately often the jerks circle in the right direction
 
let's set him on fire
 
7:57 PM
@Xeo Maybe you are becoming boring
 
It's against the law to burn righfolds outside of a licenced incineration facility.
 
then we'll just have to insert him into a licenced incineration facilitiy.
 
Let him write one in Swift. He'll be happy to
 
Is puppy a wanker?
4
 
Statistical fact
 
7:59 PM
I heard that Lounge received for its birthday gift right to legalise incineration facilities and issue certificates
 
Hah. Reading the Daily News, are we
 
;v
 
today on the Daily News: Puppy great as usual.
 
@Xeo Or maybe you live in a boring city.
 
lol
 
8:01 PM
@Puppy apt
 
: D
 
@Puppy I think you misspelled 'wankerish' as 'great'
 
Xeo
@Puppy Today on the Onion: Puppy great as usual.
 
lol
that's way better
I may keep that for my own use
harhar@u whoever starred my "lol" by accident.
 
@Puppy I starred it.
Because I liked it.
 
8:03 PM
:|
 
I had to coincidently laugh at the exact moment when lol appeared in the chat, so have a star.
 
> She asks Janel what she was thinking about during that sexy routine and Janel responds, “Puppies!”
> It wasn’t great, as usual, but it was a lot of fun, which honestly might be enough to keep him around.
Dancing with the Stars, Wall Street Journal Oct. 13
 
: D
 
lol
 
It got reversed in the press agency. We should ask for rectification
 
8:05 PM
@sehe So, can we keep him?
 
Yeah. But you have to walk it every day. No matter if it rains.
 
puppy has to walk himself every day to work
no matter if it rains
 
My goggles, they hurt
 
Oh dear
 
8:09 PM
Good news: Big Stone Gap are firing up. Bad news: country:((
 
It should have been "Whose awesome" for consistency
 
by "Big Stone Gap" do you mean that giant stone vagina someone got stuck in?
 
@sehe s/hurt/do nothing!/
 
party pooper
@Puppy I think the gap is usually taken to refer to the opening between the legs (buttocks? I presume)
 
Well, TBH, the lead singer does look bit like righ... a prat.
 
user1804599
8:12 PM
Yay new OS.
 
Yosemite, right next to Big Stone Gap
@rightføld And, did it take ~2 hours?
 
user1804599
About 30 minutes.
 
user1804599
Also, I used Safari for like a minute.
 
@sehe It's not actually any English slang, as far as I'm aware, I assumed he meant some crappy band
 
@sehe ... Mc Baaaaaine
 
user1804599
8:13 PM
It's surprisingly good at downloading Chrome.
 
@sehe no, that's the crack :P
 
@thecoshman IT'S PAYNE!
 
@Puppy ?
 
max PAHYNE!
 
@rightføld that's no excuse, use wget
 
8:14 PM
@rightføld can you use it now, (Windows), or are you going to waste a week building it, (Linux).
 
user1804599
@thecoshman This is OS X.
 
user1804599
$ wget
-bash: wget: command not found
 
@Puppy no, McBain
@rightføld ... curl?
 
@Puppy imgur.com/r/datgap NSFW - very informative
 
Install X, 2 days.
 
8:15 PM
oh I'm not up with porn slang
 
@sehe that's not the arse it's referring to though
 
lol
 
GUI shell, 3 days...
 
@Puppy strictly speaking, not porn :p
 
it basically is.
 
8:16 PM
no it's not
 
@rightføld curl -O http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/wget/wget-1.15.tar.gz
@thecoshman precisely.
 
user1804599
I can better install wget through Homebrew.
 
user1804599
But I need to install Xcode before I can install Homebrew.
 
@thecoshman no it's hot
 
can daemon tools only emulate cd/dvd drives, or also ordinary drives?
 
8:18 PM
@sehe the arse is appreciated though in this case :)
 
arson aloof
 
user1804599
baka
 
@rightføld wtf? OSX is so crap you have to install Xcode, to install Homebrew, to install wget, to install Chrome?
 
user1804599
No, I can install Chrome using Safari.
 
@BartoszKP huh?
@rightføld stop it, I'm trying to mock stuff, I don't want no logic!
 
8:19 PM
@thecoshman I'd like to emulate unix-like filesystem (case sensitive) on windows machine :v
 
@BartoszKP ah, that I think is beyond daemon tools, and is very different thing.
 
@thecoshman ;0 yeah, now I'm reading about window's vhd feature - looks interesting
 
@thecoshman don't worry, you're immune
 
keep in mind, Windows can comprehend a dvd drive if tricked into thinking one is there. Give it a drive with a 'funny' file system, it has no idea what it even has.
@sehe need to drunken up :P
 
lol, I've just created a virtual drive in windows with two mouse clicks :V
 
8:22 PM
@thecoshman see
 
now just format it into some case-sensitive fs
 
@BartoszKP I can do that with no mouse clicks at all
@BartoszKP And then: good luck mounting it
 
@sehe don't spoil it for him/us :P
 
hum/us
 
@sehe yeah, I know, with 234234325 character long command, after recompiling the kernel, and "apt-getting" (or something) some stuff, and spending 10000 hours to make it compile and compatible with each other (no hyperbolas were harmed when writing this sentence, (c) @EtiennedeMartel )
 
8:25 PM
o_0 these are the most sureal shoes I've ever seen.
 
@sehe humus?
 
man, two whole mouse clicks, they sound super experience compared to 234234325 characters.
 
ikr?
 
@Puppy a click is worth 117117162.5 characters
 
@Puppy think of the wear on the table top
 
8:27 PM
 
I'm glad you all read "expensive" when I wrote "experience".
I just noticed that.
 
@BartoszKP call me when you got something useful working though
 
@Puppy I consciously corrected it in my mind. No fun in jumping on all typos. Except the pirate's
 
@sehe well, I have a working partition now. But as you've correctly indicated the problem is now to format it to some case-sensitive fs
 
8:28 PM
@Puppy no I didn't...
 
@MartinJames wow, such a young drummer and uses traditional grip ;0
 
The point is, use a case-sensitive OS
 
probably, if this was the only factor ;u
 
@BartoszKP which is...
 
@thecoshman traditional grip
as opposed to matched grip
 
8:30 PM
traditional looks dumb
 
@BartoszKP ? NTFS is case sensitive on linux...
 
@BartoszKP that looks awkward, and painful if you are getting 'enthusiatic'
@Puppy looks better for rolling snares
 
@BartoszKP He's not bad. I hate country, but I can apperciate skill, (even in a drummer:).
 
@sehe yeah, just read about that. it is also case sensitive on Windows. Unfortunately, WinAPI sucks also in this matter, and fucks this up. Seems I won't be able to test this stupid findFile function ;v
 
Hint: case folding is the extra logic. So, case sensitivity is not "an extra feature to implement". It's the absense of folding for lookup
Because what? You can't Linux, like no Puppy?
Or because you want to use Win32 API? Well, maybe Wine has a feature.
 
8:33 PM
I admit that case sensitivity is dumb.
 
Puppy goes all in
 
all in on what?
 
@Puppy on your empty hand
 
On a silly stance.
 
it has it's place.
 
8:34 PM
hoping for sehe to fold
 
Traditional grip is comfortable when the snare drum is leaning away from you, as when you carry it when waking. The matched grip is modern, and more suitable for playing on a drum set. However, traditional has some advantages even though it's harder to use. /cc @thecoshman @Puppy @MartinJames ;v
 
@BartoszKP such as being able to be all snooty that you use it :P
 
yeah :D
 
Case insensitivity is the surprising "feature". It is hard to implement, easy to DoS/QoS, dog slow, and generally makes computers more prone to breakage.
@TemplateRex right (because I'm not drunk)
 
can I have no opinion on fs case sensitivity?
 
8:36 PM
You can try
 
@BartoszKP no, you must be either all for it, or all against it. You can not compromise on opinion.
 
@thecoshman no hi/lo splits
 
I think case sensitivity vs. case insensitivity for FS is like matched grip vs. traditional grip for drumming :V
 
Although, again, it could be a lot more productive to opine on OS/VFS driver case insensitivity
@BartoszKP Oh noes. Somebody brought taste into this. It's Godwin's Law in sheep's clothing
 
8:38 PM
@sehe Oh wait, I meant to say that case in sensitivity is dumb.
 
@sehe not really, in both there are various objective arguments ;v
 
I'm just not paying a tremendous amount of experience here.
 
lol
 
@Puppy Good job. You get a bone. Sit!
 
:DD
 
user1804599
8:38 PM
$ clang --version
Apple LLVM version 6.0
 
@sehe that was a bit insensitive
 
@BartoszKP There are objective arguments in e.g. wine appreciation
@BartoszKP Oh, qubit!
 
@sehe fewer, I think
 
Fewer
 
@MartinJames ?
@Puppy you're insensitive
 
8:40 PM
right, thanks
 
@BartoszKP You see, that's the beauty, you can think that, and you can state it. It's all slippery as snake-oil, because: subjective
 
@rightføld Yeah, the Apple LLVM versions are fucked up.
it's probably 3.5.0
 
@sehe Yeah, yeah, everything is subjective. Even whether everything is subjective.
 
lol
 
8:41 PM
@BartoszKP No. Not everything. Everything can be made subjective though. No need to tell anyone in the lounge
 
did the wavefunction collapse?
 
@sehe and so, traditional vs. matched grip also is not subjective in principle.
 
user1804599
@Puppy Well, it supports polymorphic lambdas so probably.
 
I think Clang 3.4.2 had some polylambda supprot
 
user1804599
Xcode even suggests auto after [] (!
 
8:43 PM
@sehe ergh... just put on some sort of black metal about raping corpses
 
yawn. I'm not arguing this shit. I'm just derailing for lack of substance.
I'm a musician, I know how to hold my instruments and have strong opinions about that.
 
blood&chrome apocalypse
 
@sehe are you a dummer?
 
lol
 
@thecoshman have some Polish BM about rhinitis vs. Jesus: youtube.com/watch?v=PMYma1C5uFc
@sehe yeah, I've noticed ;)
 
8:45 PM
@thecoshman are you?
yesterday, by rightføld
I don't see what you need polymorphic lambdas for, though.
 
user1804599
@sehe In C#.
 
Ahahaha. Okay
 
@sehe of course not, hence I get an opinion on this.
 
user1804599
I forgot for a moment that you could not define local methods (for God knows what reason).
 
@BartoszKP :)
 
8:48 PM
because C# is full of random shit
 
@rightføld not to write stupid, unreadable methods containing local methods probably :0
 
@MartinJames ?
 
^
 
You missed that question today?
 
user1804599
Alright, what build system to use for C++
 
8:50 PM
@bamboon like a tooth-ache!
@rightføld anything. For you, zsh
 
woah, 300 on TV, and I have some beer! bbl, have a nice evening!
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
Z shell has indeed always worked fine for me.
 
user1804599
I always only do unity builds anyway.
 
@BartoszKP so the Polish are good for more than just cheap builders.
oh say... erm... slightly worried that mention him will make him return... but where's lrio these days? It's been over an hour and no snide remarks.
 
8:53 PM
@thecoshman Gone.
 
@Puppy oh, was that an event worth reading?
 
not really.
well, I dunno, I didn't read it.
all I know is he's gone and I'll no longer have to read half-conversations.
 
@thecoshman I've been trying so hard :(
 
@sehe giggidy
think I'm going to have a play with the new ksp stuff
laters
 
user1804599
8:59 PM
Can I not like, make YouTube default to HD.
 
user1804599
For non-fullscreen.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not seeing the "Neo" in those Nazis.
 
All Nazis either died in WW2 or got executed after Nuremberg (or an Israeli death squad got to them). So all people who currently identify as Nazis are neo-Nazis because it's a different movement.
 
Two fallacies there. Not all died, and it's not necessarily a different movement once new people are involved.
 
dunno, not sharing a literal lineage doesn't prevent you from being a Nazi.
 
9:03 PM
Mengale was alive until circa 1975
 
Bengele
 
Mongole
 
Nazi Schutzstaffel Dr. Josef Mengele
 
Ah, you missed the spelling Nazis
 
@sehe The term "neo-Nazi" is still used for someone who identifies with the same ideals as Nazis but wasn't part of the original Nazi bunch.
 
9:06 PM
Apparently he drowned during a swin in ?Venezuela? accidentally...very little corroborating evidence is available.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I agree. However, I have the feeling it implies different ideals too.
 
@sehe not really. Though neo-nazis tend to be more generic in their racism. It's also tightly linked to the 'skin head' movement and extreme nationalism.
 
So, how is "more generic" not a difference. Also, "neo" also refers to the context: their Nazis in a post-WW2 context. Still Nazis, just different mode and different expectations
 
Nazis=good 'cos they didn't resort to chemical weapons on the battlefield, unlike Winston 'I gassed the Kurds first' Churchill.
OK, I may be a bit tired and emotional now.
 
Ell
They did horrific jew experiments though
 
9:16 PM
Why emotional? Are you a nazi?
 
9:29 PM
@aldo What did I do to you? This is not even your question, you showed no code at all, and then you berate me because I didn't read it. If you're unfamiliar with the jargon GIGO, I'm sorry if that came across as harsh/disrespectful. It's just a commonly name to indicate that input out of specifications leads to unsepcified results. I never said anyone is an idiot. I applied rational analysis to the one argument you used. If you're still interest in my opinion, you are free to post an answer that has enough information for me to look at. — sehe 18 secs ago
 
he posted a wrong anyway even ignoring all of that stuff.
 
Mmm? What's that?
 
he assumes that if his code produced apparently good results with 1.55 that it must not be garbage.
 
Ah. That way.
 
I posted a correcting comment
@MartinJames At this rate, those Kurds are going to evolve immunity to poison gas.
 
9:37 PM
Couldn't help but notice this
 
9:47 PM
so
how speedy does Puppy want his new pipes?
50Mb download -> £26/mo, 100Mb download -> 31/mo, 150Mb -> 39/mo
 
I'm very jealous
I pay more for 20Mb I think
 
I have a dedicated fibreoptic cable running into my new place.
so I can get the speediest nets it's roughly physically possible to get residentially
hmm
I'm probably going to get the 100Mb pipes because I only have a 100Mbit cable and probably only 100Mbit LAN in my machine.
 
What do you need 150Mb for
Download the fucking internet?
Make backups of the entire net?
 
hey
 
Stream your mother?
 
9:53 PM
I work during the day so fuck waiting around in my free time for shit to download.
 
With 100Mbit you won't wait a minute.
 
that's fortunate because I am not a patient person.
 
50Mb/s shall be enough for everybody.
 
but really, it's only £8 a month more
 
lol dat expensive internet
 
9:55 PM
why not get the fattest available pipes
 
Because the fattest the pipes are, the fatter you'll get
 
$15 for 1000mbps here
#romanian #swag
 
It's a simple equation really
 
I wonder why the ISP recommends that you use the gigabit connection on an i7 quad PC though
 
More internet speed = more things to download = more reasons to stay at the computer = more of you being sedentary = more fat = less health
 
9:57 PM
I have to walk to work for half an hour, up a big hill and four flights of stairs at the top
it's Bristol, regular exercise unavoidable.
 
also
> Hard Disk: SSD
lol
 

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