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12:03 PM
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thank god for that
 
...
@aclarke logical place, silly name, depending on how you look at it
 
ahahahahahah
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit retwote that one, it's good
In your second fragment the member function you are trying to pass is not static. Make it so. — n.m. 2 mins ago
to the point
 
jesus christ this guy like live tweets the universe
 
user1804599
12:24 PM
"Who has Ebola?!" http://t.co/D8Cif8Vaka
 
user1646075
@sehe old-school, it would have been the same executable, different name, behaviour distinguished by testing argv[0]
 
"Hello Code project members."... This is Stackoverflow. — Borgleader 17 secs ago
 
user1646075
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We have a winner. God Science bless you, Charles.
 
12:38 PM
A std::vla template class would solve both the destructor and the type-safety problems. I think there's one in boost. — R. Martinho Fernandes Jun 22 '11 at 4:44
std::dynarray -- the early years.
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't care that you upgraded, I just want it to upgrade.
 
I don't know what you're talking about?
Does it send user emails when it upgrades or what
 
@rightføld dem replies
what is wrong with people
 
Everything
 
no i didn't mean you. just people in general
 
12:49 PM
javascript is the weirdest programming language.
 
you're the weirdest programming language
 
hi all... before posting my first message on this chatroom, just a question on netiquette: is it accepted/barely tolerated/forbidden to ask here for minor C++ issues?
 
2 days ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Read the fabulous rules!
 
thks
 
12:53 PM
reading rules is best netiquette
 
Apps against Ebola!
 
barely tolerated is probably the most accurate. No one's stopping you from asking questions, but the purpose of the room is not answering questions, so it may annoy people, it may get ignored, it might start a huge fight, or it might get you an answer. :p
 
@jalf :) something suggests me the likelihood of being «flamed to death» (sic!) is not as so remote as it could look like at the first glance :)
 
user1646075
@LisaAnn bless you for asking
 
@LisaAnn there's always stackoverflow
people don't flame there
 
user1646075
12:57 PM
@LisaAnn appearances can be deceiving. It may look peaceful...
 
so the chances to get flamed to death are 0
 
user1646075
@AlexM. no, they use sarcasm...
 
@LisaAnn true, that's why I mentioned it :)
 
@LisaAnn actually asking the "may I ask question" questions is not good. if you came here to ask a question - just ask it.
 
well, it looks calm ... just like the crocodile pond right before a small mammal falls into it
I wouldn't want to be that small mammal if I were you. But no one here will stop you ...
 
user1646075
12:59 PM
@Abyx ... "and wear the consequences" he was going to say
 
@Abyx I guess I had to take some risks by coming here and saying that, albeit the possibility of disappointing no one should not have been taken into account at all... well, I must admit your "welcome" has generated a strange desire for creating a new question on SO after all :D
 
I would suggest the small mammal to hang around the pond and make friends with the creatures in it before jumping into it
 
user1646075
yeah, tell us a joke. complain about other room members. Pick a fight...
 
@LisaAnn note that you already wrote a lot of messages here instead of just asking the question in your first message.
 
user1646075
@Abyx but at least we didn't have to think - don't you get it?
 
1:05 PM
I do have to concentrate a bit to parse her messages
 
@Abyx my dear, your chatroom mates have already been enough clear and eloquent about what I could and what I should do here, then I will not ask anything here - instead I'll go SO :) Bye
 
so I did have to think
it's one of those situations where more words than needed are used
 
user1646075
@AlexM. I'm detecting either a bit of English-as-a-second-language, or a superior grasp of the language.
 
@LisaAnn uhm dunno about "dear" but I don't mate them. and it doesn't matter what they say, really.
 
I actually checked her profile to see if she didn't drop by from EL&U
 
user1646075
1:06 PM
@AlexM. ugg?
 
it's clear! She really thinks you guys are the crocodiles!
 
wut?
 
user1646075
our work here is done.
 
user1646075
@AlexM. mongo only ponder
 
@AlexM. alligators.
hth
 
user1646075
1:08 PM
 
Just a question before leaving: I would really appreciate an explanation of this, even though I guess I won't like consequences of such a request :)

«I actually checked her profile to see if she didn't drop by from EL&U»
 
Xeo
Great success. Our game has daily tasks for players, and those are defined with an absolute chance (x%) to be selected. Or at least, that's what the data says. The chance is parsed in the code, and then ignored.
 
@LisaAnn english language & usage
 
@LisaAnn the english learning and usage SE site
 
it's a stackexchange site
 
Xeo
1:11 PM
And the tasks are uniformly picked.
 
ok, that's the first piece of the puzzle. As of the second one: why should I did drop by from there?
 
user1646075
because your language is quite formal and flowery.
 
user1646075
We don't often get Ladies 'roun' he'yar
 
and that's the second one, thank you
 
^^^ that
this whole thing
> I guess I had to take some risks by coming here and saying that, albeit the possibility of disappointing no one should not have been taken into account at all... well, I must admit your "welcome" has generated a strange desire for creating a new question on SO after all :D
 
1:13 PM
got it
 
user1646075
@LisaAnn no, thank you for bringing some decorum to our humble outpost.
 
could be compressed by only keeping what's relevant into "I'm thinking about posting a SO question now"
 
@aclarke too kind, thank you
@AlexM. sorry for having wasted your eyes' rotation degrees :)
 
user1646075
 
I sit very far away from the screen though, so my eyes barely moved
apologies accepted though
 
@AlexM. glad to read it :)
 
user1804599
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty are you trying on another avatar? confess...
 
a fat horse, huh? /cc:@chmod711telkitty
 
user1646075
no, i mean, also Lisa Ann
 
user1646075
1:23 PM
a sock-puppet.
 
user1646075
anyway, that was five minutes of entertainment. Now I have to go and put my pussy to bed. It's been out causing a commotion all night.
 
user1646075
 
> So I think collectively in the video game industry we're dropping that standard because it's hard to achieve, it's twice as hard as 30fps, and it's not really that great in terms of rendering quality of the picture and the image. in.techradar.com/news/gaming/…
60 fps is twice as hard to achieve as 30 fps and it's not that great
yeaaaah
(Ubisoft on games)
 
in other news: turd.
 
@aclarke I'm just 28 and you're (not so) slowly getting me older message by message... :)
 
user1646075
1:35 PM
@LisaAnn if you're just 28 then you may not recognise that character and her obsession with her Pussy. google "Mrs Slocombe"
 
ok, let's see...
 
from Wikipedia... Mrs. Slocombe also tries to sound posh and refined, but when exasperated or annoyed, she reveals more than a trace of a Northern accent. Mrs. Slocombe's catch phrases were "...and I am unanimous in that..." and "Weak as water!" Mrs Slocombe often mispronounces long words, rendering, for example, "obstreperous" as "obstropulous" and "organism" as "orgasm" and "centimeters" as "centipedes."
ouch ouch ouch
is that the point?
 
user1646075
@LisaAnn more of a coincidence actually. I've been channelling Mrs Slocombe every time I talk about my new cat.
 
user1646075
1:42 PM
actually I thought you had left to formulate a suitable query on SO pertaining to your needs ;-)
 
Xeo
WTF MSVC
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit UMD?
 
Xeo
Why the fuck doesn't your std::discrete_distribution have a [first, last) ctor?!
 
@aclarke I was, but at the end something made me stay here to yell "Be the flame!" and posting something like this:
// ---

"17/10/2014"

What's the most parsimonious way to make such a %d/%m/%y string a QuantLib::Date object?

// ---

That's the question I going to post because my deep lacks of C++ don't allow me to understand similar questions already accepted on SO :(
 
user1646075
now you're being sneaky
 
1:49 PM
I guess I am :)
going to delete it...
 
user1646075
careful, that bear which looks like a gorilla head deletes q's...
 
whops
 
user1646075
only sometimes
 
user1646075
now I really have to go get my stupid territorial cat in for the night. I want to sleep.
 
another Mrs. Slocombe quote?
 
1:53 PM
RT @AdamBalfourLang: This is the best fact I've read in a long time: http://t.co/yGYG7cEh5s
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user1646075
@LisaAnn no, me getting cranky at him. last time he's allowed out after sunset. grrrr
 
@Xeo I remember when they boldly claimed that they already had a full stdlib.
 
I need some custom memory handling for linear algebra and am writing my own storage classes that then provide Eigen views (so that you can use them like Eigen3). I am running into some problems with constexpr and stack allocation (https://gist.github.com/gnzlbg/435e63a781f387fcb8aa).

Does anybody know how to wrap a C array (or std::array) such that I can still use aggregate initialization? I am using a std::initializer_list right now that obviously doesn't work since I cannot have a perfect forwarding constructor (it conflicts with other constructors)
 
@AlexM. beats me
 
OK mr. Prophet... 'From this day on I shall go forth and profile!' — Kees C. Bakker Nov 21 '11 at 21:47
lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes I loved it, but I didn't see why it had to be a picture. So I'll retweet that as a "/HT" later
 
2:10 PM
Oh, right on time after our (relative) units discussion of yesterday: /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
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@sehe I lolled! brilliant example.
 
interesting that SO rotates that somehow?
 
> I don't get what the problem with the Frist image is. Isn't 44F about equal to 7C?
Second comment.
Sigh.
 
I've formulated the whole issue here :
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26301502/constexpr-wrapper-over-c-array-with-stdvector-like-constructors
 
2:20 PM
Dragon Age free on Origin
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Metadata rotation is fun because you never know if it's going to work properly and where
 
2:32 PM
@Xeo someone dropped out for Essen so we have one spot free for the whole four days.
 
Xeo
tempting.
how much would lodging be?
 
Lemme check.
So, I paid 144€ including my share of a group ticket for the train.
I'll try to remember how much was which.
 
Xeo
heh
 
Hmmm, can't find that conversation.
I think it was around ~20-25 per night.
I'll meet people later and know for sure.
 
Xeo
Hm, since I only live an hour away, I don't think that's sensible for me after all.
 
2:42 PM
Yeah, I guess.
Well, there were more people interested in a potential spot so I'm sure we'll find a replacement.
 
Xeo
what about @jalf? :D
 
upvote to counter downvote — user2407394 2 mins ago
argharghargharghargharghargha #nodontdothat
but it's my answer so i'm a bit stuck -.-
 
hmmm
Dimensions
 
user1804599
htop y u black text.
 
3:00 PM
@rightføld Because you talk like a nigga?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why are you visiting a gunge-foundry city in Coalphalia? Berlin too upmarket for you?
 
Internationale Spieltage SPIEL, often called Essen after the city where it is held, is an annual four-day game trade fair held in October (Thursday to the following Sunday) at the Messe Essen exhibition centre in Essen. Many german-style board games are released at the fair. Unlike the other major German game fair, the Nuremberg International Toy Fair, Spiel is open to consumers as well as publishers and designers. The fair typically releases turnstile attendance (the number of times a guest enters, i.e., a single visitor who attends all four days would be counted as four attendees), not actual...
 
Welp password day
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Orite! I knew it wasn't for the historical architecture - there aren't any buildings older than 1945 :)
 
Xeo
Feels weird to finish a task before the PM managed to create a ticket for me.
 
3:13 PM
> german-style board games
There's a specific style for those?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes do you have some sort of daily alarm to remind you to mention tease us about this?
@CatPlusPlus Monday morning "ergh, wtf is my password?!"
Isn't 'german style' another term for 'euro-games'?
 
I still don't know what the fuck you were talking about wrt upgrades
Also I just confirmed PayPal transaction and it didn't happen wat
 
@thecoshman I think it means "games only crazy people enjoy".
 
Bah seller endpoint crapped out
 
Like Settlers of Catan.
 
3:16 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Well, being German (and not mechanical) it's more a singular lack of style.
:-)
 
(Which is incidentally German)
 
@CatPlusPlus when you do a discrap upgrade, it tells me I have to refersh, why can't it just do it
 
Oh that
I don't know ask jeff (also probably risk of data loss)
 
Isn't that the general of SaaS?
 
> discrap
???
 
3:17 PM
Haven't really seen any software that'd autorefresh on upgrade
 
any way, can we vote yet?
 
@TonyTheLion aka Discourse
 
dicsource
 
@JerryCoffin don't capitalise it ¬_¬ that's for proper nouns, discrap is not proper
 
3:21 PM
@thecoshman The noun is proper regardless of how awful the software is.
 
@JerryCoffin hardly
 
@thecoshman But soft! (What light through yonder window breaks?)
 
@TonyTheLion that looks broken
any way, weekend starts :D
 
3:25 PM
@thecoshman you can't see it?
 
> Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Item 2. What is a type with bogus value?
 
> Instead, if the construction of a UnicodeString fails, for example when it is constructed from a NULL UChar * pointer, then the UnicodeString object becomes "bogus". This can be tested with the isBogus() function. A UnicodeString can be put into the "bogus" state explicitly with the setToBogus() function. This is different from an empty string (although a "bogus" string also returns TRUE from isEmpty()) and may be used equivalently to NULL in UChar * C APIs (or null references in Java, or NULL values in SQL). A string remains "bogus" until a non-bogus string value is assigned to it. For c
That's the source.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see.
 
3:43 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because we all like that specific kind of bullshit.
Also, isn't that how standard streams work?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Well, it is. But that does not make it a good thing. :)
 
I mean, streams are an example of how not to do things.
 
@VáclavZeman all values returned rom std::bogus<> are guaranteed to be bogus (c++17)
@TonyTheLion refersh!
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what's the conflict then? you need the repz? :)
 
4:00 PM
Thinking of writing a C++ library? https://gist.github.com/rmartinho/3176551
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Oct 10 '12 at 14:27, by Cat Plus Plus
I'd shorten that entire thing to "Dear C++ library writer, I will hate you" really.
 
hehee
 
@EtiennedeMartel In fairness, while streams certainly have lots of shortcomings, if you're looking for a canonical example of what to avoid...well, they could be a lot worse, and I've seen a lot worse (in wide use, at that).
 
@TonyTheLion WHAT:
> There are 3 items on your list I am confused by and would like to understand better. First, why are #defines bad? Second, why are "managers" bad? Third, what do you mean by base class of everything?
@EtiennedeMartel I've reached the conclusion that streams are remarkably well designed, but have simply too many features. So, yes, I guess it could be better designed
 
@sehe ...and yet, which features would you eliminate (without losing functionality that's valuable to many users)?
 
4:14 PM
Formatting doesn't belong there
 
@TonyTheLion Someone found that?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Seems like
 
@CatPlusPlus It most certainly does. In fact, formatting is pretty much all an iostream itself does. If you want "raw" I/O with little or no formatting, it's your own fault for using iostreams at all. You should be using a streambuffer instead.
To be just a little more complete: the iostream doesn't so much do formatting, as act as a match-maker between I/O done by a streambuffer, and formatting done by a locale.
 
I have many opinions about that and none of them are positive, but the important thing is that I forgot about SPN
Crime
 
4:29 PM
Whenever the Wraith threaten to conquer Earth, I honestly don't give a shit. What's wrong with me?
wtf
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Feel free to produce some evidence proving it wrong. — Andrew Medico 29 mins ago
^ good rebuttal to pointing out an answer has zero citations or proof
 
user1804599
boost::context::guarded_stack_allocator alloc;
std::size_t size(8192);
void* sp1(std::malloc(size));
void* sp2(std::malloc(size));
 
user1804599
Why does it use std::malloc instead of the stack allocator that was just created. :S
 
I didn't know there was a rule of conduct for SE website before.
Evening
 
@Sofffia seriously?
@rightføld a typo?
 
4:37 PM
@Sofffia fuck everything
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, I just... behaved the way I always behave.
 
@Sofffia a man's gotta have a code
 
My own code is good enough.
 
@Sofffia Most of us know only a tiny fraction of the laws that apply to us either, but don't really need to know the page and paragraph to have a reasonable notion of what we should or should not do in a given situation.
 
"Why am I so thirsty?" ... because I never drank that coffee :'(
 
4:43 PM
@thecoshman Yet the coffee will actually make you even thirstier (caffeine is a diuretic--or to be more accurate, and anti-diuretic inhibitor, though I'll admit I don't really know how that differs). In short, drinking coffee leads to dehydration.
 
@JerryCoffin long term yes, but in the short term it spares your mouth feeling like shit for not having drunk anything.
 
@thecoshman Drink water (or alcohol, though that's also an anti-diuretic inhibitor).
 
@Jerry that effect is usually nullified by the water it is usually consumed with.
That obviously doesn't apply if you eat it instead of drinking.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Depends. If you drink things with relatively small amounts of alcohol (e.g., beer), it's probably true. With mixed drinks/shots of liquor, I always found it best to drink a large glass of water for every mixed drink/shot I drank. [citation needed], but everything I've heard says hangovers are largely a result of dehydration.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I link it semi regularly in ##C++ at Freenode, the guy is a part-time regular, part-time troll there.
 
4:56 PM
@Jerry oh, I meant the caffeine.
 
@JerryCoffin a colleague of mine used to drink one glass of water for each alcoholic thing at parties
 
Ell
@AlexM. I just end up having to wee every 10 minutes
Instead, I drink a pint of water before I go to bed
then two litres from my camel-back while in bed
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There I think it depends heavily on the form you drink.
 
I don't like drinking stuff before going to bed
I like to stay there for at least an hour after waking up, and if I have to pee I can't do it properly
 
Hangovers are caused by some salads. I know this because my friend Eric always got a blinding hangover after eating cucumber with his seventeen pints of Pedigree.
 
Ell
5:01 PM
@MartinJames I'll have to keep away from cucumbers then
 
@Ell Yes, best to be safe and avoid lettuce and tomato too.
 
user1804599
Is there a GCC attribute for specifying the name of a function in the object file?
 
user1804599
I want to use characters that would otherwise result in syntax errors.
 
Xeo
gaaaaaah
the replacement inner tube that I got is too thin for my friggin tire!
bloody hell
 
@rightføld You can create an alias or weak alias etc.
 
user1804599
5:10 PM
There is weakref but I want a strong symbol.
 
user1804599
Well not sure it matters in my case.
 
seems FF XIII takes 60GB on PC because SQenix didn't decide to compress their cutscenes
 
user1804599
> It is an error if ‘__f’ is not defined in the same translation unit.
 
why wouldn't you compress cutscenes
60 GB is immense
 
5:12 PM
@Xeo wot wot?
 
everything's 720p and cutscenes run at 30fps
 
Oh, Essen. Yeah, I'll have to pass. Got board games planned for both saturday and sunday this weekend. Can't just go to Germany ;) (/cc @R.MartinhoFernandes, @Xeo)
 
Xeo
You'd rather play boardgames with people we don't know than with us?!
I'm appalled!
 
@Xeo Keeps the bar bill down:)
 
@rightføld Hmm, then you might need a linker script or top level assembler or...?
 
user1804599
5:15 PM
Oh right, there are tools to rename those symbols in object files.
 
@rightføld What characters do you want to insert that is otherwise disallowed?
 
user1804599
$, / and ?.
 
user1804599
$ is allowed by clang, but the others aren't.
 
@rightføld $ is allowed in C and maybe C++ with GCC.
Will presence of / and ? be a syntax error in the assembler source instead then?
Can't you use some mangling instead?
 
user1804599
@VáclavZeman In GAS you can put double quotes around it.
 
user1804599
5:18 PM
Hmm, come to think of it. I could use dlsym.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ?
Do you have any reviews for Buckys C++ youtube series? Good/Bad?
 
@Chantola I have never heard of it.
 
Ell
@Chantola it looks bad so far
I haven't watched any yet
I just saw using namespace std;
 
@Chantola I do not like how he structures the input loops. I think it is not the best source of C++. You should probably get a book.
 
user1804599
5:29 PM
> eneted
 
user1804599
1/10 wouldn't hire
 
lol Battlefield devs really enjoy publishing tweets like this
not to mention their interview where they said "<new battlefield name> will work properly at release!"
like, what did they expect
for us to applaud?
it should be no surprise for a game to work at release wtf
 
user1804599
Minecraft.
 
it's like, "the new game will have this awesome new feature" just turned into "the new game will actually WORK!" for them
 
@VáclavZeman I have a book
At my college they told us ot use Absolute C++
 
Xeo
5:54 PM
> Database unavailable, please try again later.
and I still get the results
whut
 
@VáclavZeman peoople :D
 
Xeo
The fuck PayPal. Why do you want me to add another bank account, all of a sudden
 
Hence Japanese Playstation games using Circle for Yes and X for no, unlike US/European games. That was the original intent behind the design of those symbols. — Almo 3 hours ago
TIL
 
user1804599
Metal Gear Solid did that until MGS 4.
 
6:00 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit where they using ad hominem to basically mean 'personal attacks'?
 
user1804599
It's not broken.
 
Xeo
The fuck PayPal. The fuck.
 
> Name-calling. Focus on the post, not the person. That includes terms that feel personal even when they're applied to posts. ("lazy", "ignorant", "whiny", etc.)
 
Xeo
Whyyyyy
 
TIL calling someone lazy is bad
what do they want to turn the SE into
a place where people only exchange words like
"Hello, this is my problem."
"Have a wonderful day, here is the solution."
while they're cursing the other's family in their head?
I'll pass.
 
Ell
6:02 PM
> The teenage girls who abandoned their families in Austria to become jihadis for ISIS feel they’ve made a terrible mistake by joining the barbaric lifestyle and they want to come home.
 
user1804599
Too late DIAF.
 
lol
anyway, off to see the new dracula
cya
 
@thecoshman yeah
 
it's where you use a personal attack as part of argument though, right?
 
@AlexM. ikr :(
@thecoshman yeah
 
6:09 PM
so, pointing out that you are a twat, just an insult, saying that you are wrong because you are a twat, ad hominem
and that word really sounds odd to say.
 
what?
wait, yes
I found it very difficult to parse your messy sentence, but yes
 
yeah, could have done with some semi-colons :P ;P
 
and less of being a twat
 
mmm, warm coffee sooths the throat
@LightnessRacesinOrbit nah :P
 
Ell
@thecoshman but then again you don't know how to pronounce floor :P
 
6:23 PM
@thecoshman It's such a shame that twat is a kind of offensive insult, because I really like the sound of the word
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit usual thecoshman business.
 
user1804599
oo case object * extends Kind :v
 
6:41 PM
@thecoshman Just for what it's worth, the standard form of an ad hominem attack is: "His argument should not be believed because he is an evil person."
 
@rightføld I'm working with units again. Temporary name, started with just playing with T4.
 
user1804599
Cool. :P
 
will probably not compile due to the generated code not being perfect yet.
 
Why did I sign up for this weekend trip? Better question would be: why did I not take my name off ...
This is weird ...
 
feeling too ill for pub -.-
got no food in
too tired to catch up on work
no new tv
lameeee
 
6:53 PM
> When programming a code with Cuda 6.5 I noticed that overloading integer into a function they turned out to be wrong in the function call and I cannot change them
Is there a badge for this kind of questions
 
Who else enjoys Minecraft?
 
My brain cannot even parse it
 
Ell
@Cicada I... I just don't know.
 
well now you can enjoy Minecraft with the community! (or soon)
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Minecraft

Proposed Q&A site for minecraft discussion dedicated to enthusiasts, professionals, and anyone who enjoys the game.

Currently in definition.

 
@Chantola ergh... no
 
6:55 PM
@thecoshman ergh... yes?
 
user1804599
Okay, this may be too cryptic: symbols.get(name) orElse (parent flatMap (_ findSymbol name)).
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz! <3
 
@rightføld I'm not really here, just lurking.
it's not the time yet.
 
user1804599
You can never leave.
 
Well, I can certainly click "leave the room", but yeah, I can't leave leave.
How are you?
 
user1804599
6:58 PM
I am doing great.
 

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