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5:00 PM
@Crowz 1% is too high for 'serial killer', but you may be in the correct range for 'rapist'.
..or maybe 1% of men are candidates for 'COBOL maintenance programmer'.
 
@Crowz Sounds like Myers-Briggs en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INFP
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Haskell or inventing your own language?
 
@Crowz Lots of explanations online of what the MBTI types mean. Keep in mind, however, that lot depends not just on the type, but where along the scale you fall for each. For example, when I've taken the test, I always show up as INTP -- but on the T/F scale, I only land something like 1% on the T side, so I could almost be mistaken for INFP (and at any given time might pretty easily be effectively INFP).
 
@DeadMG boo.
 
k
 
5:04 PM
This would be a lot faster if I still remembered the AST types :S
The docs are... scarce? No, scratch that. The docs are the source code.
 
The docs are all in your head
There is no docs
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, docs that explain high level how to use stuff is good. For example, I do not want to have to trawl through the git source code to see I need to use git pull origin
 
You have to be the docs
 
@CatPlusPlus They used to be. About 2 years ago.
 
user142019
I accidentally rm instead of mv. XDDDDD
 
5:08 PM
Congrats?
 
Ell
@rightfold ahh dear :/
 
yesterday, by R. Martinho Fernandes
alias rm='rm -I -d -v'
 
@JerryCoffin does this mean we're friends now?
 
@Crowz It means we have fairly similar personalities, anyway. That doesn't necessarily lead to friendship.
 
I'm kind of curious how accurate those tests are. It's also weird that they have sites of famous people who are supposedly each type, because INFPs seem to have all the cool people
 
5:10 PM
Ha! Found AstUtil.ToXml. Now I can debug almost properly.
 
damn boost has a lot of stuff *_*
 
user142019
> error: 'oslash::virtual_machine::gc' should be initialized in the member initialization list [-Werror=effc++]
 
@JerryCoffin I always come back very strong in all of INTP.
 
user142019
Does -Weffc++ seriously warn about not explicitly initializing a member that has a default constructor?
 
@DeadMG I suspect INTP is nearly universal among programmers.
 
5:16 PM
@JerryCoffin Not really.
 
2 hours ago, by thecoshman
I think it's time we take on a new tag,
:P
 
@Morwenn Claiming I don't suspect that seems a strange assertion.
 
@JerryCoffin I was only referring to the second part of your sentence. Oh, and you probably alreay know that.
 
@rightfold You should put all fields in the init list
 
I also suspect part of how I show up on results stems primarily from taking their questions a little too literally. At least as I recall, they have a lot of gross generalizations with terms like "always" and "never", that I almost reflexively disagree with on principle, even though I might agree with "usually" or even "nearly always"/"nearly never".
 
5:22 PM
I'm not capable of treating personality tests seriously
 
Last time I did personality tests, I ended up being nothing.
 
@CatPlusPlus A personality test in itself: "what kind of personality is needed to take personality tests seriously?"
 
DUMB
:v:
People are really obsessed with categorising other people
 
@CatPlusPlus With any form of generalization it needs to be taken in context and with a grain of salt
@CatPlusPlus Well that is what makes us human really
 
@CatPlusPlus s/other people//
 
5:28 PM
It's just one test anyway. My personality changes. On a day when I get no calls/emails, drink beer and listen to music, I behave quite differently to another day with a 17:00 deadline and 450 linker errors.
 
People are not the only thing to always be categorized.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah
 
@MartinJames Differences in day to day behavior don't imply differences in personality, any more than "I drove to the store yesterday and to work today" means I necessarily have two different cars.
 
@JerryCoffin you mean you don't have a 'grocery run' car?
 
@thecoshman I've only got a 'grocery run' car - that's why I have to work from home :)
 
5:38 PM
I have one car for groceries, one for work, and another for having sex on isolated clifftops overlooking towns
 
what about transporting corpses?
 
@thecoshman I guess the 'sex car' doubles-up.
 
well
 
@MartinJames O_O
 
since the need to transport corpses arises immediately afterwards and in the same place, it'd be difficult to bring two cars
 
5:42 PM
@DeadMG Get your sex/murder victim to bring the other car.
 
@thecoshman I only have a "run the errands my wife made me do" car.
 
Why transport them anywhere when you're already at the top of a cliff?
 
I don't have a car
 
@Morwenn Depends on what's on the bottom
 
@DeadMG Just imagine you're playing Tetris.
 
5:44 PM
OK, maybe the topic should now be 'Spillling bodily fluids'.
 
@CatPlusPlus how do you move the corpses?
 
@CatPlusPlus Better no car than a Лада (are there any Soviet-era Лада's around Poland?)
 
I wouldn't recognise one
 
@CatPlusPlus Must not be many, anyway -- they're pretty recognizable.
 
Ell
spilling bodily fluids is awkward :L
messy at least
 
5:47 PM
There are still some very old crappy cars around I guess, so this one is not unlikely
 
Looks a bit like a Cortina Mk I, only much uglier, and usually static.
 
@Ell That's why we're swapping them. Carefully.
 
@JerryCoffin IIRC you are not scared off by perl? Can I use string concatenation when setting the value for a hash key? ie %foo=(bar => $this . ' magik');
 
But seriously cars I can recognise: Fiat 126p, a truck, a bus, all other cars
 
@thecoshman Is that a lambda expression?
 
5:49 PM
@ShotgunNinja where you born dumb? I clearly state perl
 
Ell
@thecoshman calm down, now
 
That's not what he asked
 
still, no, it is initialising a map
 
Ell
does perl have lambdas?
 
@thecoshman Lambda expressions are a language feature, not a language.
 
5:50 PM
Also don't use Perl :cripes:
 
erm... sort of...I think...
 
@thecoshman My attitude toward Perl doesn't involve fear, but I certainly don't use it, and my only advice about how it should be used would be "rarely".
 
@thecoshman A lambda expression is a shorthand version of an anonymous function object.
Or at least, that's my limited understanding of what a lambda expression is.
 
@ShotgunNinja ah, I thought you thought it was a c++ lambda
 
Lambda expression is an anonymous function
It's not a shorthand for anything, it's just that
Also "function object" is C++ism and not relevant term in general
 
5:51 PM
erm... not sure if you can do an anon function in perl... you might be able to
 
@CatPlusPlus Fair enough.
 
You can and as usual with Perl it's ugly as fuck en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_function#Perl
 
One of my teachers used to say Perl was good to write code once and hope you never have to maintain it again.
Like a write-only language.
 
perl can be wrote obfuscated, in practice I write it knowing that in two days time I will need to change stuff having forgot wtf was going on
I do not make use of half the shit you can
 
3 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Also don't use Perl :cripes:
 
Ell
5:53 PM
@thecoshman what are you using perl for?
 
user142019
fun(x) -> x * 2 # :>
 
@rightfold Error: Invalid syntax near ":>".
 
So. I just got stuck in an elevator.
Was fun.
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol, I hate when that happens.
 
@Ell build system :P
 
Ell
5:54 PM
Which part?
 
Last time I got stuck, I had to wait for the elevator software to time out, and kick me out to a nearby floor.
 
Ell
Ruby is superior :P
 
@Ell 'here is my project, these are the folders of relevance' 'ok.... here is your program'
 
Ell
the whole thing? :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel danger fap!
@Ell yeah
 
5:56 PM
@thecoshman We were about 8 in there. All men. And it was hot. The temperature, I mean.
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obviously using gcc to compile and link
 
@EtiennedeMartel extreme danger fap
 
And you're using Perl because?
@EtiennedeMartel Starbait
 
@CatPlusPlus I wanted to practice perl some more, build system sounded like a good project to practice on
any hoops, dinner time :D
 
5:57 PM
Build systems are crappy projects in general, and using Perl for anything is not a good idea
So you're a masochist congratulations
@ShotgunNinja It has 136 pages and appears to be about programming so no
It even looks boring
 
@CatPlusPlus It's a conference proceeding from 1968 or something about software engineering. I think it's cool.
 
Yeah, boring
 
Killjoy.
For anyone except Cat Plus Plus who might be interested in that sort of historical stuff.
 
It's not history that makes that thing a boredom incarnate
 
Well, it sure beats writing test procedures out of the water.
Especially test procedures for a website.
"Click this. You should arrive here. Click this. This should appear." ad infinitum.
 
6:02 PM
Thanks for that information
 
"LOVE AND TOLERATE"
 
Why download it? It's on Netflix.
 
What bugs me is that the YouTube links on that episode guide are broken.
 
eh
MLP
 
You should watch it too.
Took me a while to get from "It's not that bad" to "OH MY GOD I WANT TO BOTHER @CatPlusPlus WITH THIS".
 
6:13 PM
I watched an episode last week, it really isn't for me.
 
@TonyTheLion Just one episode? You should watch more.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Because his reaction is so hilarious?
@EtiennedeMartel Too much purple
 
@TonyTheLion No, because the show gets better and better.
 
right
 
Well you made me not want to watch it ever
So thanks I guess
 
6:15 PM
lol
 
Season 1 is decent, season 2 is really good, and season 3 made me wet in anticipation of season 4.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I actually didn't like some of the stuff in S2...
 
Some episodes of season 2 are not that good, ut some other ones are really good.
 
a pony infestation
 
6:20 PM
Yeah, maybe "The Return of Harmony" and "A Canterlot Wedding" are distorting my views of the whole season.
Especially "A Canterlot Wedding".
 
Yeah, I do think so.
Oh, still did not see this last one.
 
Lounge<MLP++> ?
 
The season finale?
It'll blow your mind.
 
I hope so.
 
@ShotgunNinja Never!
 
6:21 PM
Actually, no, it was S3 that started to grate on me. There were some episodes I simply couldn't watch.
 
Xeo
Please make a PonyVille room or something!
 
@CatPlusPlus meh, it's a project to work on, and what build systems I have seen so far all seem to make things overly complex. So either I am drastically underestimating what I need to do, or they are all doing more then needs be. And I like Perl, it has some nice syntax and makes a refreshing change from trawling through shitty logs and even shittier Java at work.
 
@Xeo It already exists. But do you know why we don't use it? Because we want you to become a brony.
 
22 mins ago, by Cat Plus Plus
Yeah, boring
 
@thecoshman You are a masochist, have fun
 
6:22 PM
oh Cat
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel It exists? Great, that means I can move messages there. ¬‿¬
 
Please stop creating new MLP rooms. It's the third one already.
 
and no one ever chats in one
 
@CatPlusPlus and you are a nihilist
 
6:23 PM
@ShotgunNinja I really liked every single episode in S3 except "Just for Sidekicks" and maybe "Games Ponies Play".
@thecoshman He's a wannabe nihilist.
 
Xeo
Damn, I was at work for too long today - didn't get around to shopping. :|
 
Perl is a piece of shit and an insult to language design
And yes you are underestimating build systems
 
Xeo
But I don't want to order something... meh
 
So
Have fun
 
I am :D
 
6:26 PM
@ShotgunNinja And anyway, "Sleepless in Ponyville" compensates for any shortcoming in any episode in S3.
 
@EtiennedeMartel God, I wish I wasn't drinking when I saw most of S3...
 
I can't remember which episodes you're referring to at all.
Plus, I never remember the titles in connection with their content.
 
Scootalove is canon, man! That's all I need.
 
Scootalove?
Oh, Scootaloo -> Rainbow Dash?
 
@ShotgunNinja RD being a sister figure to Scoots, yes.
 
> C++14 will consist of changes to the standard itself and two or more technical reports. The technical reports will be on a file system interface (known as “File System”) and on a way of expressing constraint on template arguments (known as “Concepts Lite”).
 
(Spoiler alert)
 
Concepts Lite in C++14? Cool!
 
Also, my French hurts.
 
6:31 PM
I introduced my coworkers to move semantics today. (I sent them a link to an explanation)
 
Did you send them a link to my SO answer? ;)
 
@EtiennedeMartel It'd make a lot of sense, anyway.
 
@ShotgunNinja The other alternative was RD essentially using Scoots' admiration for personal gain (aka "Scootabuse").
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, okay.
 
Both had some weight in canon, up until "Sleepless in Ponyville" anyway (which invalidated a lot of sadfics).
 
6:34 PM
> Every powerful new feature will be overused until programmers settle on a set of effective techniques and find which uses impede maintenance and performance. I don’t think I ever described lambda expressions as “best avoided,” but – as with all new features – I do encourage a bit of caution. I have already seen multi-page lambdas, but I prefer all non-trivial operations to be named.
wow
 
multi-page lambdas, woah
 
> I do not consider it the job of a programming language to be “secure.” Security is a systems property and a language that is – among other things – a systems programming language cannot provide that by itself. C++ offers protection against errors, rather than protection against deliberate violation of rules. C++11 is better at that than C++98, but the repeated failures of languages that did promise security (e.g. Java), demonstrates that C++’s more modest promises are reasonable.
Haha, Bjarne bashing Java again :)
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@ScottW You love everyone.
 
"I know my language is crappy and low-level but Java is worse and that makes me feel better about myself"
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> I consider GC the last alternative after cleaner, more general, and better localized alternatives to resource management have been exhausted. [...] Memory is not the only resource. A resource is anything that has to be acquired and (explicitly or implicitly) released after use. Examples are memory, locks, sockets, file handles, and thread handles. A good resource management system handles all kinds of resources.
> So, I say that C++ is my favorite GC language because it generates so little garbage.
 
6:38 PM
@CatPlusPlus seriously?
 
That's what it says
 
@CatPlusPlus Sweet tits, you're so negative.
 
@FredOverflow I actually agree with this, but in practice, it does require a far more careful implementation process.
Which takes time.
 
It's like a human-shaped ball of bitterness.
 
Ell
when catplusplus is positive I'll eat my hat
 
6:39 PM
It's actually bad when you pay attention to it
PlusPlus should be MinusMinus
 
@ShotgunNinja All you need is RAII.
2
 
@FredOverflow And GC is not a 'resource management system' so I don't know what this is about
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes it is, except it manages only one resource: memory.
 
@FredOverflow Well, the whole using () { } notation from some other languages is becoming a really nice way to deal with most common resource management pitfalls...
 
It actually eliminates memory as a resource
 
6:40 PM
@ShotgunNinja But it only works locally. You can't "using" a data member.
 
I just paid 1408 cents for stuff.
 
@FredOverflow Agreed. Which is why I specified "most common pitfalls".
 
Execute around is more than enough to provide resource management
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes talk about a vague statement.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 14,08$?
(Look at my use of French in there)
 
6:42 PM
@FredOverflow If your objects are tied together then you also tie lifetimes of resources and using a parent resource
 
I'm sure he's talking in Euro's
 
@TonyTheLion Reminded me of the following.
"1408" is a short story by Stephen King. It is the second tale in the audiobook collection titled Blood and Smoke, released in 1999. In 2002, it was collected in written form as the twelfth story in King's collection Everything's Eventual. In the introduction to the story, King says that "1408" is his version of what he calls the "Ghostly Room at the Inn", his term for the theme of haunted hotel or motel rooms in horror fiction. He originally wrote the first few pages as part of an appendix for his non-fiction book, On Writing (2000), to be used as an example of how a story changes from o...
 
oh stories
I'm clueless
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, like when I write "Étienne"?
:P
 
People like throwing around "RAII" but it's really nothing special or C++-specific
 
6:43 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I love you too, Martinyo.
 
@CatPlusPlus Right, D also offers RAII :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Portraying C++ as a messiah of resource management or whatever is my pet peeve
Also C++ is really bad at keeping unsafe constructs explicit so hey the previous quote is bullshit too
 
Python tried to RAII.
 
Just ugh
I don't care who says it
It's just marketing
 
6:45 PM
Meh, lambdas.
 
You don't like lambdas?
 
That's not how apostrophe works
 
shush
 
lol lol lol
 
'''''''
Free apostrophes here.
 
6:47 PM
''''''''''''''''''''''''
moar apostrophes
 
stop this now people!
 
shush
 
@EtiennedeMartel But do they work?
 
@CatPlusPlus that's not how plurals work
 
Could I get some punctuation with my vowels?
 
6:48 PM
@ShotgunNinja do accents count as punctuation?
 
@thecoshman says you.
 
This is awesome http://t.co/kivpZgESf2
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@EtiennedeMartel FFS
 
OFFS
Guns
Shoot me
 
Dem Americans.
 
6:50 PM
Ugh
 
@OneFunnyBastard re: kinder eggs and assault rifle picture. The rifle depends on someone pulling the trigger the egg is a safety hazard.
 
The logic there is unbeatable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait, is that guy a soldier?
 
We've got infuse Cat with positivity.
 
6:50 PM
I guess that explains why he doesn't see the problem with an automatic rifle. I mean, he knows what weapon discipline is.
 
And of course it devolves into the usual gun trainwreck
 
not really, if you are stupid enough to eat that capsul in a kinder egg, you are too stupid have a gun
 
The poster is shitty, all the responses are worse
 
@thecoshman Don't be silly. You can't eat guns.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wish you could. It would solve a lot of problems in Africa.
 
6:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes don't be silly, they are both clearly childrens toys
 
ahahahah
 
I mean, they could eat all those AK-47s and end world hunger.
 
there is a more realistic way to use guns to cure world hunger... but genocide is frowned upon
 
It's not that realistic.
 
more realistic then edibal guns
 
6:53 PM
Seriously, the main problem is not that we're not producing enough food to feed everyone, it's that we're wasting too much.
 
Using bullets to communicate is a sad state of affairs
 
@TonyTheLion Don't be silly. You can't read bullets.
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, they go so fast, you don't have enough time to read what's on them.
So inefficient.
What we need is a IP over Bullets protocol.
 
now, I don't have figures to hand, but as I understand it, we are producing more food per person then ever before, yet we have the highest rate of malnutrition ever.
 
6:54 PM
@thecoshman We suck at sharing.
 
@EtiennedeMartel they go so fast, they kill
 
Xeo
Ever seen how much stuff super markets and restaurants throw away?
 
I'm gonna link that here again, because I think some of you have not seen it yet.
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion The information they hold will literally blow your mind!
 
@Xeo dat pun
 
6:56 PM
well... if you could work out a way of loading data into a bullet and then firing it, you can send it like a Km rather fast... capturing it and getting the data back of is rather tricky though...
 
We need better QR code scanners.
 
Maybe with supersonic carrier pigeons...
 
don't so silly, we need to use NFC for this
 
What we need is a proprietary Microsoft technology.
 
6:58 PM
We have plenty of those already
 
IPoverBullets => ? => cure world hunger... fuck me we are smart people! suck it MENSA!
 
Is Mensa a girl's name?
 

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