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15:00
@EtiennedeMartel okay, I get it.
@Griwes oh well that's way easier than what I was thinking
let's just settle on "fucking repost" then
@Crowz it's meant to be used for humans yknow
yeah but it doesn't seem to be changing my github
@Crowz Ha! Gotcha.
There's difference between commit and push.
You asked about commit :D
I added two directories (it's a client/server apllication) and moved the cpp files within, but the directories don't get added
45. When one sees a lion, one must get into the car.
lol
guise, Y U NO GET INTO YOUR CAR?
@Crowz push
@TonyTheLion i have no car.
@EtiennedeMartel How is it that both "Pro Git" and "Git Con" (if there was one) would obviously both be in favor of Git?
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@BartekBanachewicz fail
15:03
@JerryCoffin Please, no more puns. I can't take it anymore.
@TonyTheLion I want a motorbike anyway
@EtiennedeMartel Does it feel like a form of punishment?
@EtiennedeMartel I'll try, but I'm not sure I can manage that...
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh no :/ another one
@BartekBanachewicz oh yes
user1357851
15:05
sweet, my app crashed. Not cool I have chucked in 200+ lines without running it in between
Awesome.
This is why we use version control.
@ShotgunNinja And common sense.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Who are you calling a tool?
Maybe he's talking about the band.
15:07
@EtiennedeMartel God, I hope not.
What? Tool is awesome.
To each his own.
Those awesome riffs. HMMMM.
@ShotgunNinja @Telkitty
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Bahahaha, all right.
user142019
15:08
I'm damn hungry as fucking hell.
@Zoidberg How damn hungry is fucking hell, anyway?
user1357851
I am good with Android development now ... can even read debug logs. I know exactly what I have to fix :p
user142019
@ShotgunNinja Damn hungry.
I'd assume it's quite significant, but still.
@Zoidberg Then eat something you moron
15:10
@ShotgunNinja Hungry enough to eat a large steak and a baked potato, but that's it.
user142019
Erlang has no string type.
user142019
It has lists.
user142019
Of integers.
@Neil I wonder if I can afford a steak today
@Zoidberg Cool.
15:10
I probably can't.
@BartekBanachewicz At least you have the luxury of wondering whether or not you can afford steak.
@EtiennedeMartel so lame
Reminds me of GamErix
I bet'cha that's how he imagines "hacking"
beams of light coming out of a cellphone
I don't get the point of that ad.
I mean, the target audience are actual sysadmins. But those guys know that hacking doesn't work like that.
user142019
> Our IT teams are l33t.
15:13
maybe that should make them feel better about themselves
I know they're trying to say "Hey, we're the guys who're making Watch_Dogs", we're cool, so you should work here.
like y'know, they aren't fat pricks in the basement
user142019
user142019
Prehistoric laptop.
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~mobile~ pc
15:15
But hell, no need for pandering. Just tell them "you guys are gonna have to help the hot chicks in accounting figure out how to do that damn thing in Word".
@EtiennedeMartel Sysadmins know things?
@EtiennedeMartel "... no sex involved!"
@DomagojPandža Oh yes they do.
@Domagoj, separate shader objects. Wait, that linked badly. I meant what you think about them.
15:16
Being a sysadmin is a terrible job. When stuff works, you're invisible, and when stuff doesn't, it's all your fault.
Aptly known as the fall guy(s).
And that's why, every year, there's the Sysadmin Day.
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@EtiennedeMartel I sympathize
Same happens to my friend at work who is a system admin
To remind these guys that if it weren't for them, we wouldn't be able to do our jobs.
user1357851
LaterZzzzzz
15:17
It depends.
With the added bonus that everybody (bosses included) want administrator rights and then mess with things despite his heedings
In some cases, if it weren't for them, some people would be able to do their jobs.
Then he gets blamed.. I swear it's like walking into a sitcom everyday
Anyway. I wouldn't want to do their job. So I admire them.
Same thing with the QA guys.
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, wondered how it related to sysadmins. Separate shader objects, quite useful little thingies when you get into more diverse rendering schemes with various custom shaders that map on top of your, for example, singular vertex shader. You reduce the necessary number of combinations for shader program linkage and all around optimize the stuff you're working on. Whuy?
15:21
@DomagojPandža TIL bout them at work
And devs, in a heavily bug-fix-oriented project plan landscape.
You can really feel the boost on mobile devices, I think they were introduced to Apple devices in late 2011. as an extension, a smaller subset of the ARB validated one.
We rarely get to make cool new features nowadays and, when we do, people don't really care.
They do care about all the bugs that have to be fixed. Because bugs mean we're shit, obviously.
I was thinking if I could use them in Minicraft
so each cube type could possibly have it's own fragment shader, for example
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But only about the bugs that have a serious impact in the users.
15:22
Nope, all of them
Especially the ones that do not have any impact on the users but one person thinks it does
Your average joe doesn't even know what amounts to a bug
@BartekBanachewicz Yup, you could win tremendeously with that extension if you're going for a lot of custom frag shaders.
Most will tell you that it's a bug that the background is blue when he decided he wanted it to be red.
@DomagojPandža they are core on DT 4.1 GL
Yesterday, Montreal's metro network stopped for 66 minutes. The reason? Software failure.
15:24
Today the metro was blocked because some drunk was walking on the rails
@EtiennedeMartel I'll bet it was due to the daylight saving time
Is is considered a software failure too?
@Neil Hmm, seems a bit late to be caused by a DST change.
@kbok yeah auto lazor drones prolly broke
15:25
@Neil I heard they changed their software back in february.
So it's probably one of those bugs.
@R.MartinhoFernandes The consequences of UB have unspecified temporal proximity to the cause.
You know, new version, the suits who don't care about QA, so they ship a "good enough" version.
@EtiennedeMartel Logic seems to dictate it would be some event that doesn't happen often..
> This isn’t the first time a software issue has paralyzed the underground system, less than 3 weeks ago the main server caused a meltdown on all the lines. The same thing happened last July.
hahaha
(And crappy use of comma)
Well, well.
15:27
> “The good news is we know the solution. We are now testing a software update that should be done by the end of the month.”
lol
So, as you all see, we also have problems with consultants.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah :(
Hello, my name is JavaScript. Instead of admitting that my standard ECMA specification is retarded and implementing enums, I'll just put all the flags as part of a given object's state. Fuck me, right?
@DomagojPandža Indeed.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It's funny because almost every other punctuaction mark would work there but they picked the worst.
15:30
@BartekBanachewicz ... what
@DomagojPandža Oh, I'd fuck you anytime.
A computer equipped with a random number generator would do better.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Intel CPUs have HW random gen
@EtiennedeMartel (no homo)
@kbok Yeah. I'd probably feel nothing. "Strictly professional".
15:31
oh wait I missed the point. ignore me.
@EtiennedeMartel I don't understand anyone anymore, I'm outta here
@EtiennedeMartel Oh you have a secret night job?
user1182183
hey guys I can't find any software to edit exported .reg files. I know I could use notepad or something but it's a 500 MB registry file.. what software do you guys recommend?
You can always put a sensor in your toilet to measure your last shit's density as a way of seeding randomization. Or set a camera on top of your house overlooking the power cables and applying an algorithm which detectes the number of birds on it for seeding.
500MB registry file
kill me.
15:32
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's not a job.
user1182183
@BartekBanachewicz yeah just exported everything from my old laptop so I can import specific stuff into my new laptop...
@BartekBanachewicz Bartek the Drama Queen.
@GamErix hahaha.
@EtiennedeMartel he moved registry from one OS instance to another
@EtiennedeMartel Bartek the Dranana Sandwich?
15:35
500 MB registry file? Is it encoded as UTF-2048?
hahaha bad luck
user1182183
@DomagojPandža don't know what Windows 7 exports it as
user1182183
probbly just UTF8
@GamErix I would use vim with some secret sauce settings. vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1506
15:36
> (keywords: large huge speed)
ummm
Oh, puttygen, move my mouse for randomness. How queer.
That's standard practice.
guys guys I have something hilarious
Say you have
NSInteger x = 11;
NSNumber *y = x;
It will happily compile with no warnings at all and just crash at runtime
15:40
Well, you don't.
> §16.7 - One shall move his mouse in a pattern defined by involuntary muscle spasms.
you are welcomeish
15:41
This language is like a pile of crap with lots and lots of deodorant
ahahahaha
@kbok Which language is that then?
3 mins ago, by kbok
NSInteger x = 11;
NSNumber *y = x;
That's not the name of a language
15:44
Or at least I hope not
Objective C, given the NS prefixes everywhere.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Objective-C
Objective-NS
@kbok How the heck does that work?
15:46
NoobSuckage
@TonyTheLion NoSanity.
Exception-C.
Objectively awful programming language
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@JerryCoffin Is that an evolution of APL?
@R.MartinhoFernandes We could only wish -- as bad as APL was, nothing derived from it could be close to as bad as Objectionable C.
[objection see]
Damn, I should get some sleeps.
I kinda like APL for the sequence-oriented operations.
@R.MartinhoFernandes NSInteger (typedef to int) happily casts to NSNumber * without asking questions
Is that some kind of boxing conversion?
Like Java's int -> Integer?
15:52
Nah, it just blows.
No, it's a reinterpret cast
a boxing would be NSNumber *y = @(x);
Ugh.
So the code is broken?
Here you get a NSNumber *y = reinterpret_cast<NSNumber *>(x); for free. Merry christmas.
15:54
@R.MartinhoFernandes I enjoyed playing with APL, for throwaway code, but I can't imagine trying to maintain it.
user142019
@kbok and that is why you enable warnings.
user142019
And -pedantic-errors.
Says a lot about a compiler built around a language that requires you to enable warnings and has a flag called pedantic errors.
@DomagojPandža It's from C.
15:58
Well, Objective-C is a superset of C, but you don't really have to retain all the suckage.
user142019
You do
user142019
otherwise it won't be a superset.
So many tears would be shed over that. :$
I'm just glad C++ is not a superset of C.
What are you fools talking about, with all of this superset nonsense?
user142019
@DomagojPandža Tearshed Software Dev-Objective-C.
user142019
16:01
@ShotgunNinja Objective-C is a superset of C.
user142019
There's not much nonsense about it since it's a fact.
Don't worry, someone will find a way to turn this around to porn.
user142019
Porn is great.
'tis, 'tis.
@kbok What an awful parent you'd be. That christmas present is the equivalent of a lump of coal.
16:04
@Neil I can't agree -- at least under some circumstances, coal could be useful.
user142019
@kbok y u no auto.
Kids are expensive.
@DomagojPandža Tits, tits.
user142019
Objective-C is a nice language.
@JerryCoffin True, as I'm sure that line could be handy in some circumstances
Though if you're a kid, maybe you're not thinking about fuel for your manufacturing plant
16:07
@Zoidberg I did
hi everybody
Jueecy pussey, howudoin'?
jueecy pussey... nice
My girlfriend has a rather "jueecy pussey"
I don't have a girlfriend. Social lessons are expensive.
16:12
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@R.MartinhoFernandes Hahahah, this was so expected!
lol
user142019
Someone should port Django to Objective-C.
y not Zoidberg?
Would be nice if the work were completed, and competently so.
user142019
16:14
@DomagojPandža Because Zoidberg will never complete it.
Someone should write Objective-Berg
or Zoid-C
user142019
Objective-Python
I imagine it looking rather like this:
> Please make sure you're not posting any animated gifs so that they will be oneboxed, because this makes them flicker over everybody's monitor until we have managed to chat it off the screen.
16:16
That was fast.
I'm so ignorant in all this, why do I even come here in the first place? Boredom?
because we're awesome
@Jueecy You mistook this for the real C++ room and thought you could learn about something except boobies here.
Lounge<boobs>
Lounge<(.)(.)>
16:20
Lawl!
Experimental brew complete!
Now if it only managed to keep me awake for another 3 hours, that would be splendid.
@DomagojPandža Your health insurance up to date?
Hopefully! Tastes really nice, though.
came for the lulz, stayed for the boobies
16:23
Aagh I have to turn in assignments and I haven't installed the stupid SQL Server thing
@CatPlusPlus Oh, you!
And the class ends in 10 minutes
INSTALL DAMMIT
user142019
Speaking of homework.
user142019
I still need to write a fucking useless report about social networking.
user142019
Not even a single CS-related thing will be discussed in it.
16:25
@Zoidberg "Social networking allows you to stalk women you know online" there, job done
Hmm.. last time I installed SQL server, it was relatively painless and quick, (OK, configuring it and connecting up my app took another 5 hours).
user142019
@kbok It must be about sentiment analysis on tweets.
user142019
Something I never gave, don't give and never will give a single fucking shit about.
user142019
Just like anybody else in my class.
user142019
You know why? Because it's not about anything but statistics and not related to CS at all.
user142019
16:27
If only they would teach me what I pay for.
statistics are related to CS
@Zoidberg I have an engineering degree and I've been asked to write poems so don't complain
@Zoidberg 'report about social networking' - well... glad it's you who is having fucks dragged out of you.
user142019
I wish this stupid crap was over.
I honestly don't understand why your parents ever sent you to an education institution, @Zoidberg! It's almost as if they didn't realise that you already knew everything that you could ever need to know, and also that you already knew what it is that you will ever need to know, and how you need to learn it. Seems like such a waste of time when you already have that kind of advantage.
@kbok That's fun. Write limericks or haiku about how bad java/JS/PHP/Ruby/Python are.
16:29
Yeah the coal mine is all you need too be happy
Question
Suppose you do manual placement of you GUI elements in the code
ITT Cat fucking up his assignments because.
What do you think of people who put all their metrics in a bunch of defines
like
@kbok What sort of metrics?
16:31
#define NAME_LABEL_LEFT_MARGIN 20
#define NAME_LABEL_RIGHT_MARGIN 30
#define NAME_LABEL_WIDTH 550
#define ADRESS_LABEL_LEFT_MARGIN 40
etc.
yikes!
const unsigned int plzkthx!
Yeah, well, Objective-C.
the only practical reason I can think of is scoping but, even so, it just feels nicer
@kbok uhg idas daASDFA
(I'm not in the macro police, but I'll promote nice constants where possible -- probably because doing so helps to promote eschewing other C-like practices as well)
16:32
@BartekBanachewicz Are you broken?
user142019
@kbok Use constexpr and Objective-C++.
I write PHP,
load it up to the server,
again 500
@kbok I am not
> Use Objective-C++
@MartinJames haiku?
16:34
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah - trying to think of limerick now.
Anyway, macros aside?
user142019
Design the GUI in Interface Builder.
user142019
Make different views and swap them.
4 mins ago, by kbok
Suppose you do manual placement of you GUI elements in the code
user142019
16:35
Yes, I know. Don't do that.
There was a PHP coder,
Who forgot to purchase a soda,
His brain fell apart,
No longer so smart,
His career though was far from over.
lol
user142019
If you do that, you're doing it wrong.
(the idea being that getting less smart actually helps you in the PHP world, because it's so bad :P)
16:36
@Zoidberg Yeah, well, I can't. Arbitrary boss decisions and such.
I'm quite proud of that
@LightnessRacesinOrbit As if he could have been a PHP coder before his brain fell apart.
user142019
@kbok Tell your boss Zoidberg told you he's wrong.
@JerryCoffin I admit I employed some artistic licence
@Zoidberg Because purrformance you see
user142019
16:37
What.
@Zoidberg: It's okay for a start
user142019
Yes, swapping GUI elements really takes a lot of time.
@ScottW Because Java?
user142019
I hope you don't load NIBs in performance-critical loops.
@Zoidberg: Spend the time and money (you will understand this bit when you're older and actually work for a living) on a more robust GUI element positioning system when you need your second form.
user142019
16:38
GUIs are fast enough if they're faster than the user.
@ScottW It's not. iOS is worse, and Wii worse still.
user142019
What.
user142019
iOS > Android
user142019
No Java!
...
& no fucking stars :(
16:39
Hello.
@Zoidberg I know it's stupid, thank you. But I don't get to make the call you see
OK, have a star :)
Who here uses Windows (7, if it matters) and has gotten an error when opening file that it is being used by another process?
Off to go now
Ok. Good.
16:40
@Zoidberg Java, bad. Objective C, worse.
Turns out, it does not neccesarely mean process.
Xeo
Xeo
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Q: template operator << getting round

D_EIn library code I have: class VeryStrictClass { public: template<typename UNKNOWN_TYPE> VeryStrictClass& operator<<(const UNKNOWN_TYPE & value) { struct can_not_format_unknown_type {}; can_not_format_unknown_type error = value; } }; no way to reimplement it. This f...

@Pawnguy7 Well, me, (and on Windows 95 to date).
Xeo
Xeo
Does he want operator((?
It is by stream, I think.
user142019
16:41
@JerryCoffin Objective-C is way better than Java.
user142019
You just suck.
@ScottW Irrelevant.
If you open it in exclusive mode, you have it and nobody else can.
@ScottW No, not really.
user142019
objc_msgSend
16:43
@MartinJames In this case, I was using C# IO. Apparently creating a file using the method I used, returns a stream to it. You cannot create another stream to it until that closes, but it gives the common error.
user142019
objc_registerClassPair
user142019
Here, you can just use C. :>
user142019
At least it has actual strings.
user142019
Given you use Foundation.
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Q: % (examples in loop)

user2241338% (examples in loop) i don't know what is the purpose of % in loop why to % in loop please give one or two basic example % using loop and also define % in loop Thank you

lol
16:50
@ScottW This strikes me as roughly equivalent to deciding whether you'd rather die by burning or freezing. I guess if I had to choose, freezing probably isn't quite as painful, but I'd rather live, thank you.
user868935
Morning all!
user868935
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Q: Replacing D3DXCOLOR with XMFLOAT struct

SpicyWeenieI'm working with a DX11 project and having problems converting the D3DXCOLOR (deprecated) to the new XMFLOAT4 equivalent (as MSDN said I should use). Here is the line of code that is causing the problem: devcon->ClearRenderTargetView(backbuffer, D3DXCOLOR(0.0f, 0.2f, 0.4f, 1.0f)); But changing...

Good morning amigo
user868935
Been up over 24 hours peeling my brain with DX
user868935
My choice is Monster
user868935
16:58
Too bad all the DX tutorials everyone has recommended are pre-VS2012
user868935
I might need a hit or two
I don't think that makes a difference.
Who are you calling a user?? — bukko 4 hours ago
lol

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