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3:00 PM
@sehe What? Like a V2?
 
user1357851
german and netherland so close ... you can take hike and walk across the border
 
But I am not sure if I will go to class today. Schedule is a bit tight. I will probably get there half an hour late, and need to leave half an hour afterwards.
 
@jalf Star the shit out of it.
 
@sehe missed opportunity for groß
 
And I want to have a shower in between.
 
3:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Showering is for scrubs.
Real men go a whole day with only one shower.
Maybe, no shower at all.
 
@ThePhD I can scrub myself in the shower, yes.
 
@user703016 Ça aurait changé les sémantiques :)
 
I haven't had a shower since I discovered my showerhead was round.
 
Somehow I think "semantics" is not a mass noun in French
 
user1357851
I hope real man with no shower all day can stay away from no lady like me
 
3:02 PM
@MartinJames ?
 
@Telkitty Real men don't need ladies.
 
lol
 
@ThePhD No. They need oxygen and food and water and shelter.
 
What do real men need?
 
@sehe There was a thread about shower head shapes. Yes, honest.
 
3:03 PM
Je suis toujours aussi impressionné(e) par votre français, mon cher. C'est cependant "la sémantique" !
 
user1357851
this conversation becomes weirder than even I can stand ...
 
@EtiennedeMartel Exactly. :D
 
Then sit!
 
@MartinJames A thread? That's horrendous!
 
@user703016 Subtile utilisation de (e).
 
3:04 PM
That escalated quickly
 
@EtiennedeMartel They also need other bros.
 
@sehe Yeah - with pics and everything.
 
Because real men only become that way from having awesome Bros.
 
@EtiennedeMartel oxygen and bacon and water and a stiff upper lip
 
@Collin Stiff upper lib? Isn't that a British thing?
 
3:05 PM
@EtiennedeMartel dunno
 
@MartinJames You are gonna have to link me to it, if you want to run any risk of me finding out what the hell you're referring to
 
Aparrently, square shower heads are in fashion.
 
user1357851
@ThePhD hope you get a 'real bro' like kbok, then you will turn back to woman faster than you can cook a pack of instant noodles
 
@sehe Don't bother - it was just too weird.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit was about to scorn you, then remembered N. Ireland. Who do you work for, if you don't mind my asking
 
3:05 PM
Ok
 
One who has a stiff upper lip displays fortitude in the face of adversity, or exercises great self-restraint in the expression of emotion. The phrase is most commonly heard as part of the idiom "keep a stiff upper lip", and has traditionally been used to describe an attribute of British people (particularly upper-middle and upper class), who are sometimes perceived by other cultures as being unemotional. Poems that feature a memorable evocation of Victorian stoicism and a stiff upper lip include Rudyard Kipling's "If—" and W. E. Henley's "Invictus". However the idiom may be of American ori...
 
@thecoshman Well I'm only reading your profile. It says Ireland, yet you say UK, so I assume NI.
 
@Telkitty I don't eat instant noodles. I can cook my own spaghetti. :D
 
user1357851
talking about shower head, I found this:
 
user1357851
 
3:07 PM
And I'm sure @kbok would enjoy me to cook for him. <33
And FUCK TOASTERS, I DON'T NEED TO COOK MY BREAD.
 
user1357851
Oookay ...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ah yes, I see... no, I live in the republic
 
ABI so silly
 
Aarrgghhhhh!! IT'S BACK!
 
3:08 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes o.0 Whoa.
 
user1357851
all nice, unless it's in canada - too cold
 
@MartinJames Sorry about that :/
 
clean up in isle 10
 
@Telkitty That's Niagara Falls. It's in Ontario.
 
3:10 PM
Horseshoe falls is part of Niagra falls? I thought it was separate.
 
@thecoshman but work in the UK? interesting commute
 
They merged it
 
Stephan: We're very active on Connect closing bugs as WONTFIX
10
 
lol, he said that?
 
yup
 
3:11 PM
Lol.
STL: like a boss.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ah no, I meant I was going to scorn you for saying Ireland is part of the UK, but the I remembered N. Ireland
 
Ah, TSVNCache.exe, my very best friend.
 
@thecoshman yes, I understood that. but earlier you said you work in the UK.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit where did you get that I work in the UK from?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, I asked if you did
 
Oh, I suppose, you didn't really
1 hour ago, by thecoshman
you work in the UK right?
 
3:12 PM
lol, what a mess.
 
1 hour ago, by thecoshman
I haven't some how blanked you at work :P
There's a very strong implication there
.. as long as you read ", have I?" at the end of the second comment :P
 
Poor @thecoshman and his spelling. Giving comma fucker tomalak the wrong idea. =[
3
 
aye, because I was sure you where in the UK, this it felt sensible to confirm that. Which would then rule out my having blanked you at work,
 
Why in godsname do all of those laptopcompanies have laptops with exactly the same name that have different network cards?
 
@thecoshman I get it now
 
3:13 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit my head hurts
 
@thecoshman that's cos you work in the UK
 
I have a laptop here and I need to pick one of four wireless drivers. Its annoying!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes yes, that commute really is a head fuck
 
Install them all.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes stupid option, get a network cable
 
3:14 PM
Well its gonna need wireless eventually
 
Install ALL the drivers.
 
There was only one LAN driver
 
That's what Windows does
 
that was a relieve.
 
@thecoshman That makes little sense. Get a desktop then.
 
user1182183
3:15 PM
Shit, I have freaking 30 cadridges, all color only, not one black.. and I'm out of black, no one here does know how to force my epson stylus bx300f printer to print in color only?
 
I don't get why writing a using declaration for operator= never seems to go the way I want.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes exactly
@GamErix no one in the world knows that
 
user1182183
;<
 
Ell
Hi
 
@thecoshman I leave my laptop home and SSH to it from work.
 
3:17 PM
So you forwarded port 22 from your router to your laptop?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes plugged in I assume
@Cheiron so you use port 22 for ssh?
 
Psst.
@DeadMG Pssssssssst.
If you get a chance, ask Stephan what building he works in. :O
 
lol
 
@thecoshman Or another port, that is not really relevant.
 
I might do that, I am sitting right across from him
 
3:18 PM
@thecoshman Is it relevant?
 
!! Ohmaigoshohmaigodh do it do it. <3
 
Port scanners are dime a dozen.
 
If he works in any of the Redmond buildings I can find him.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes more shocking then portforwardin
@R.MartinhoFernandes aye, but script kiddies are free
 
he called you a creepy internet stalker
 
3:19 PM
@thecoshman What?
 
@DeadMG lies
 
yeah, I made that up
 
If you are really talking with STL, tell him to get his ass on here so we can sort shit out
 
Lol.
 
Tell him to fix deque.
 
3:20 PM
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes just use two queues :P
 
Nevermind. GCC snapshot being temperamental.
 
I'm not strictly talking with him since he is currently discussing the minutae of the wording of a paper
 
@thecoshman Script kiddies won't break asymmetric key cryptography.
 
n3607 to be specific
 
Ell
3:21 PM
Who would break asymmetric key cryptography?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes give 'em time
 
And assuming they do, I think assuming they won't use port scanners is quite dumb.
 
any way, time to sail home
 
I always imagine @thecoshman a more bad-ass version of Wind Waker link, for some reason.
 
@Cheiron I tunnel it through a server somewhere.
 
3:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah.
 
user142019
How does C++ deal with &foo if foo is an overloaded function?
 
user142019
Does it infer the correct overload from the expected type?
 
IIRC if you cast it, it works. Otherwise fuck off.
 
Member Function Pointer
 
user142019
Ah okay. :P
 
3:24 PM
@Zoidberg you have to cast or use a lambda
 
Which usually holds vtable information and offsets.
 
@Zoidberg A template or typed context?
 
If it's a free function, uh. It's implied from the arguments, I think.
C++ can't overload on return value, and every function has a very specific signature (based on name + parameters).
 
user142019
void foo(int x);
void foo(std::string x);
void meh(void(*f)(int));
meh(&foo);
 
Xeo
@Zoidberg Infers from context
 
3:26 PM
@Zoidberg Matches based on context and the arguments.
 
user142019
I see. Dankeschön.
 
@Xeo So, I've determined that there are 2 - and only 2 - ways to write a robust API for Streams.
(That's extensible to use for others)
 
I highly doubt that
 
The first way is to use virtual functions so that anyone can derive it and then define their own Source/Sink produces by overriding write / read.
 
that's not robust or extensible
 
3:27 PM
@piokuc Because I didn't think my information warrants "an answer". I'm basically giving angles and asking Socratic questions. You know, almost like a conversation. — sehe 29 secs ago
Someone was butthurrrrrt
 
@DeadMG Yes it is. D:
 
no, it isn't
 
It tootaallly isss.
 
it's "Iterators but I reinvented them so that they're incompatible with all the existing code and nobody can define any flexible code that works with them".
 
> Mauro
more like mauron
 
3:29 PM
Wait. Why did this get downvoted? — sehe 3 secs ago
 
oh wait it's not him who's complaining. nevermind
 
mauron nice
 
Ell
I want to write an LR parser now
 
Better get crackin'
 
~Sigh~
Well, guess I'm sticking to iterators for I/O then.
 
Xeo
3:31 PM
Stick to ranges
 
@sehe Y U NO typename C::const_iterator i = needle.begin(), end = needle.end()
 
@kbok End could change?
 
LR parsers are better generated
 
Not in this case
 
I love when the Javascript room flags shit
I get to go ape on them
 
3:33 PM
@kbok Because it doesn't matter
 
OH GOD
 
Ell
Noooo disruption :(
 
Oh look, "short" notice for system downtime. Good job, Stack Exchange.
 
NOT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE FOR 10 MINUTES!!!
 
@kbok Unknown, because _Type/C is not specified!
 
3:33 PM
What will I dooooooooo with my liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife.
 
@ThePhD Start cooking dinner, 's what I'll do
 
user142019
:(
 
Ah. So this is where the noise came from.
 
user142019
StackedCrooking dinner.
 
Xeo
Oh noes, what will happen to our Standard-Puppy-Livemessages?
 
3:34 PM
Or we could close the question as too localized or not a real question :) (anyways, feel free to write a more elaborate answer, it's okay) — sehe 1 min ago
 
@sehe Good idea
 
4:02 PM
There she goes Captain.
 
any machine-learning experts here?
 
how was that half an hour ago
wow
 
What? Roger Ebert is dead?
 
Oh - back. Is anyone watching 'Defiance'? Any good?
 
@Mikhail neat :)
 
4:04 PM
@MartinJames It's on tonight, isn't it?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit On TV, maybe. There may be other sources, but I couldn't possibly comment :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel wasn't that weeks ago?
 
lol
 
user1182183
4:07 PM
 
There seem to be a whole load of agreements on it, too, which is vastly unfair.
 
user1182183
Lol so how does your disk usage look like?
 
Moronic Javascript-sucking cunts
 
@jalf Two weeks, to be exact.
 
so...I attached a USB device to my virtual box'ed linux...and the VM crashed. but now I have VirtualBox.exe eating 100% on one core and I can't kill it. wtf
 
4:08 PM
I'm surprised I missed that.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I still like JavaScript ///*** hides
 
@CaptainGiraffe So do I. But I hate most people who use it
 
user142019
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 29 minutes.
 
user142019
JavaScript room apparently can't stand jokes.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Don't you hate most people, period?
 
4:10 PM
Here's a javascript/jquery joke:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16041720/expressing-any-given-number-in-terms-of-million
 
@Zoidberg Jokes vs insults. Hmm.
 
user142019
Insults on the Internet are always jokes.
 
OMG chat is back
 
@Zoidberg Oh noooo
 
@Cheiron I earn my living coding OpenGL, so...
 
4:13 PM
@Zoidberg Oh, you're my favorite asshole.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You have asshole ratings?
 
@MartinJames Yes.
 
N3607 passes LWG muster
n3573 delayed in LWG
turns out that's a lot harder expected
 
user142019
Awesome.
 
user142019
Google Glass API will support Python. :>
 
4:23 PM
@Zoidberg coool, now all you need is a 1,5k device
 
Oh hey... we have an API for a product we can't buy!!!!
 
If I open a qt project using cmake in qt creator, must I manually copy in the source files into the Sources directory? All that shows up there is a main.cpp with a generic hello world app.
the cmakelist file specified the need of a mainwindow.cpp, so must I copy it over?
and if so, what about preserving the directory structure?
 
Apr 5 at 13:12, by Lightness Races in Orbit
This is the Lounge. It's where logic goes to die. Have fun, after reading our handy survival guide!
 
@BartekBanachewicz I asked the question on main already, no replies yet
 
@JohnMerlino have you read the guide?
 
4:27 PM
I just need help with initial setup. once I have it running, I can handle the coding myself.
 
2 days ago, by Etienne de Martel
In sense, it's like you have to earn your "right to ask" here by becoming part of this little community. If you don't have time for that, or don't care for that, then go on SO instead.
 
@JohnMerlino hint : we don't care
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am not trying to deny that you must be awesome, I was just merely asking what I, according to you, need to do with this information.
 
@Cheiron with what information? OpenGL isn't perfect, but it's the best we have. I am just wondering why so many beginners are trying to learn it given the alternatives.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am not an expert here, so all I have ever heard of is DirectX and OpenGL. And since I mostly use Linux DirectX isn't really an option. But what would, accordig to you, be a better option?
 
Xeo
4:33 PM
@DeadMG What were the concerns?
 
@Cheiron for a beginner? Something on higher level, obviously
 
Like what?
 
well, depends
if you totally want to do 3D, Unity seems OK
for 2D, focusing on C++, SFML is a nice option
THREE.js has also nice feats
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why start on a higher level? I am only writing this code to learn stuff, if I start on the lowest level then I know how it works. When programmingspeed becomes a concern, then I can switch to something a bit higher leveled.
 
@Cheiron do you know how OpenGL works? Because I have no idea honestly
 
4:35 PM
how does C# work?
 
I have no idea either.
that's the point.
 
@Crowz That's a huge question
 
user142019
@Crowz what a broad question.
 
it makes many 1s and 0s and computer likes them
 
'Badly'. There, one word.
 
4:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Not completely offcourse, but I learned about the theory. Matrixcalculations and stuff. I was referring to using glbegin(GL_QUADS) vs the GLUt functions, btw. Not about the actual working of OpenGL
 
user142019
lol GLUT
 
@Cheiron that's of course terrible and outdated. What about these functions? Are you using them?
hint : it's QUADS, and it's deprecated
 
You're supposed to use triangles to make squares, I think
Quads aren't supposed to be used.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yes, I am right now using GL_QUADS and GL_TRIANGLES
And you are now going to tell me that its a bad idea etc.
 
@Cheiron that's a failure already
only GL_TRIANGLES should be used
 
user142019
4:38 PM
 
Because you know your shit and I just began knowing it. I need to start somewhere, why not at the bottom?
 
@Cheiron because of that exactly. You are learning outdated things because you haven't learned how to learn complex things
 
"Warning: This section describes legacy OpenGL APIs that have been removed from core OpenGL 3.1 and above (they are only deprecated in OpenGL 3.0). It is recommended that you not use this functionality in your programs."
 
Repeat after me. OpenGL. Is. Hard.
 
user142019
4:39 PM
My dick. Is. Hard.
 
Lol
 
@Zoidberg TMI
 
@Zoidberg I know bby <3
 
user142019
@Crowz I was joking and you're wrong.
 
I know it is. And when it becomes my actual job I will look deeper and deeper into it. But foir now, I am just a student.
 
user142019
4:40 PM
GitHub has a new logo.
 
Who needs to get its stuff done.
 
@Zoidberg omg. I liked the previous one better
 
user142019
Me too.
 
@Cheiron studying is fucking retarded
 
user142019
This one looks like a PowerPoint presentation.
 
user142019
4:41 PM
It looks like that fugly font what's it called again.
 
user142019
Calibri.
 
it's not that bad
 
@BartekBanachewicz Haha, so you never went to school?
 
@Cheiron I haven't said that.
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz okay, it looks slightly better than Calibri.
 
4:42 PM
@Zoidberg ...
 
user142019
^^
 
School isn't very good for learning, imo. I'm not even good but half of what I know is learned outside of school.
 
@Crowz thank you, Captain Obvious
 
@BartekBanachewicz I know, my point is: you leran a lot more from actual working (specialized information, anyway) but you need your diploma to get a job.
 
@Cheiron depends on the job.
 
user142019
4:43 PM
Not all companies look at diplomas.
 
I am angry because fucking lambdas
so please don't mind
 
what are lambda functions? Aren't they putting a function as a parameter in a function?
 
i'm not happy their remaking Revenge of the Nerds either
 
@Crowz no
 
@BartekBanachewicz Where I am from we have something called ISO (I think its international, but I am not sure) If you want certain of that certifications, you need your employees to have the correct diploma's etc. Some companies and the government only want to do buisiness with you if you have those certificates. Thats why I think it is necessary for me to have a diploma.
 
4:45 PM
@Crowz no.
 
-1
A: How do I read a line of data in C++?

johnTo read a line of data in C++ use std::getline() #include <iostream> #include <string> int main() { std::string data; getline(std::cin, data); }

^^ Is that answer wrong or are people just downvoting answers to bad questions?
 
A lambda function is an unnamed function which can see whatever functions and variables were visible in the context in which it was created.
basically
 
user142019
@Mysticial it's wrong.
 
user142019
getline is not available in that namespace.
 
user142019
You need std::getline.
 
4:47 PM
@Zoidberg ah. Though that sounds a bit nitpicky...
 
@Mysticial tell 'em to use gets() from C standard library
 
user142019
And I fixed it.
 
Don't use gets ever
 
I am going to buy snuff
@Crowz and fuck you for recommending C
I need nicotine.
bb.
 
@CatPlusPlus it's so unsafe, isn't it? It breaks a lot.
 
4:48 PM
I am really wondering if it is worth it for me to dive deep into C++
 
@Xeo Mostly because the extended functions were far too eager to accept any type T even when the hash identities were never going to hold.
 
@Cheiron you won't regret it :v:
 
@Crowz lol
 
@melak47 I hope so, I am not sure if I will ever get a real job in C++. On the other hand, it is no useless information to me.
 
user142019
@Crowz gets is even deprecated in C99 and removed in C11.
 
4:50 PM
You won't regret it you'll just go insane
 
-3
A: How do I read a line of data in C++?

Aswin MurugeshProvided you know the number of elements you will get, main() { int a[20],n,i; //n=Number of elements for(i=0;i<n;i++) scanf("%d",&a[i]) }

 
user142019
A function being removed from C for security reasons says a lot.
 
^^ wow I navigate away for a minute... come back and there's a new answer at -3.
 
Shitty libc recommendation
 
it made me vomit a little in my mouth
 
4:52 PM
I like C
 
@Crowz Better then C++?
 
chirp chirp
 
You can only like C if you don't know it and don't use it
 
@Cheiron ehhhh... not really. C++ is better (even the name implies it)
 
What a compelling argument
 
Xeo
4:53 PM
@DeadMG Hmmm
 
@Crowz I mean C++ can do everything C can and most of the time better. Why would one recommend it?
 
user142019
C++ and C are both bad so it doesn't matter which one is better.
 
Xeo
@Cheiron C++ can't do restrict :(
 
Fuck restrict
 
Here is me, thinking that everyline of C can pass through a C++ compiler
apperently not.
 
4:55 PM
No
 
not by a very long shot
 
@Zoidberg (awaiting 'Haskell is best')
 
C11 and such have lots and lots and lots that C++ can't compile
 
@DeadMG but what about a very very long shot?
 
Hey lemme just compile this file written in one language with a compiler for another language and it will surely work
 
user142019
4:56 PM
C and Objective-C. :>
 
@Cheiron If you limit yourself to C89, and avoid certain C idioms, then most of your code will be accepted by a C++ compiler. With newer versions of C, not a chance
 
the requisite length of shot is exponential in the size of the power function in the number of bits of the source file
 
@jalf Of course the more fun option is to dig your eyes out with a wooden spoon
 
user142019
C is insane!!
 
Python is best language
 
4:59 PM
I started off with Java once, so to me C++ is quite insane too.
 
user142019
@Crowz You are wrong.
 

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