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8:00 PM
(I can edit .csproj manually ahahaha what a great IDE)
 
user142019
Y U NO VIM
 
@Zoidberg Silly lobster.
 
I only need to comb through this codebase, not write anything
So I can live without an editor~
 
user142019
But you have to edit the .csproj manually.
 
@CatPlusPlus Can't you use Windows Explorer for that?
 
user142019
8:01 PM
:3
 
@EtiennedeMartel No
What
 
@AndreiTita prefer beauty
@ShotgunNinja hehe
@ShotgunNinja that's almost worth an animated short
@ShotgunNinja though I'd s/drift/punch/
 
Anyway. Should I watch Life on Mars?
 
user142019
The village I live in is bad.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes.
 
user142019
8:03 PM
I should buy my own village.
 
Buy your own planet
 
Did any of you guys watch SG:U?
And did you like it?
 
@Borgleader I liked it, even though it's pretty much "LOST on an Ancient ship"
 
Yeah, kinda
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah I liked it too. I thought it was an interesting take on the series
 
8:05 PM
Can someone help me with an opengl conundrum?
It's nothing breaking, just a curiosity.
 
user142019
Omg Boxxy posted a new video.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh, that doesn't sound promising.
Lost was terrible.
 
LOST got so ridiculous it was just funny at the end
Especially the bits with time jumping
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, let's count the ways, shall we? A bunch of people from varying backgrounds and sometimes clashing personalities get stuck in a closed circle far away from home and try to survive against a variety of vaguely defined dangers.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah. I read the story of Lost on wikipedia after it was over just to see what the fuck the fuss was about and my only conclusion was: liberal drug use.
 
user142019
8:12 PM
Okay wat.
 
LOST was awesomeness till season 6
 
user142019
> 301 views
 
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> 721 upvotes
 
user142019
YouTube what the fuck is wrong with you.
 
@bamboon You mean, while things didn't make sense because the nonsensical bits were still missing?
 
8:13 PM
Mystery is sometimes part of the appeal.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yup
 
Monsters in Amnesia: The Dark Descent are scarier because you can never get a good look at them.
 
Mystery is hard to write. Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof clearly don't have it.
 
LOST was good in season 1
 
@Borgleader My favourite show ever. My heart still aches at its untimely demise, and at the ratings system and at the prevalent stupidity in Western culture that allows so many to not recognise the unadulterated perfection of the show's production.
 
8:14 PM
And then it just got ridiculously funny while still trying to treat itself very seriously
 
LOST's problem was that they tried to stretch it.
 
I do also think that some actors were pretty good.
 
Well, season 2 wasn't bad either IIRC
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Calm down, dude.
 
@bamboon The main problem I had with LOST was not that it didn't answer questions, but that the producers went out of their way to goad the viewers over it, with lines such as "every answer will just lead to another question". And I'm like... so what? Give me the fucking answer anyway and then we can deal with the next question, or not. That's called progression.
@R.MartinhoFernandes :(
 
8:15 PM
I cringed every time they called that bunker "a hatch" though
 
My favorite show ever was... meh, I'm hesitating between ReBoot and Dans une Galaxie près de chez vous.
 
@ScottW Sure I have
@ScottW Boss is an American political drama television serial created by Farhad Safinia. The series stars Kelsey Grammer as Tom Kane, the mayor of Chicago, who has recently been diagnosed with dementia with Lewy bodies, a degenerative neurological disorder.
 
REBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
 
@ScottW Amirite
 
i love me some breaking bad
 
8:16 PM
Although RB only became good with the third season, while DUGPDCV is good the whole time.
 
They blew it up at the end of season 2 right?
 
Oh we're referring to different reboots.
Ah well.
 
ReBoot is a Canadian CGI-animated action-adventure cartoon series that originally aired from 1994 to 2001. It was produced by Vancouver-based production company Mainframe Entertainment, Alliance Communications, BLT Productions and created by Gavin Blair, Ian Pearson, Phil Mitchell and John Grace, with the visuals designed by Brendan McCarthy after an initial attempt by Ian Gibson. It was the first half-hour, completely computer-animated TV series. Reruns of the first three seasons can be seen in Canada on Teletoon Retro, and the first two seasons are available on Netflix's streaming ser...
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@EindacorDS Isn't that the show that brainwashes you into thinking it's the best show ever with some clever subliminal messaging?
 
Oh shit it is the same show.
 
user142019
reCAPTCHA
 
8:17 PM
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY REBOOOT
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's true
 
@ThePhD And it was CANADIAAAAN
 
@EtiennedeMartel it's better when you're on meth too
 
Go Canada.
 
I think it's one of the few kids show that I enjoyed more as an adult than as a kid.
The opposite of Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, in short.
 
8:18 PM
@CatPlusPlus might be true, I think lock didn't want to enter the code anymore
 
I loved ReBoot as a kid.
 
My favourite Canadian show is the one with two beavers
 
@CatPlusPlus But there were more.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I didn't really feel for SGU. I preferred SGA and SG1.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, it went ridiculous after that
 
8:20 PM
@ScottW Oh man, that shit was tight.
 
For some reason there's no direct capture anywhere
 
When was it that the island "moved"? End of season 3?
 
That's when I stopped watching.
 
@CatPlusPlus LOL
 
user142019
8:21 PM
@CatPlusPlus misery FTFY
 
user142019
Everything is full of misery.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I stopped at season 2.
 
user142019
Suffocating Under Words of Sorrow
 
@Zoidberg You emo kid.
 
@DeadMG Could you detect enhanced production quality, though?
 
user142019
8:22 PM
 
user142019
50 Shades of Gay
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, not really.
 
I watched entire LOST
 
@DeadMG Okay. Watch it again, and this time use your eyes and ears instead of your legs and toes. :)
 
@DeadMG The sets one SG:U were by far better than SG:A. The SG:A sets actually looked cheap.
 
8:23 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I did that the first time.
 
In particular the music and audio/visual effects were constructed to intricate detail.
 
tbh
 
has anyone seen house of cards on netflix?
 
user142019
You?
 
I think that it was really Rush's character that put SG:U down for me
 
8:24 PM
On a more fundamental note, SGU succeeded at giving me the "fuck me we're a long way from home" feeling, where SGA never did. That's despite the communications stones mechanic.
 
@ScottW So that he feels entitled to whine about everything.
 
SGU had less forests
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That I agree with.
 
@DeadMG Hurrah :D
 
the thing is
 
8:25 PM
Speaking of Canadian sets, Continuum season 2 starts next week
 
the SGU enemies were never interesting or well-developed
especially those freaky things in S1.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The VFX around the ship traveling -> awesome every damn fucking time
 
the design of the Destiny didn't make sense.
 
@DeadMG I loved to see real people
@Borgleader omgyes
 
and Rush was an idiot.
 
8:25 PM
The quality of the explosions when Destiny fought the command ships
 
Overall SG-1 spinoffs were much weaker and much more forgettable than SG-1
 
@DeadMG Scottish
 
no, he was just an idiot.
 
also, not an idiot at all, but very clever.
 
@DeadMG He was dick more than an idiot.
imho
 
8:26 PM
those two are the same thing when you're being a dick about effectively the survival of the whole group.
 
@DeadMG That's because the show got cancelled.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Really?
 
@DeadMG The point was for things to be nurtured over a longer period of time.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, that's because they had to change enemy sets every season because of the new galaxy mechanic.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit SGA kills that concept with the season 1 ending.
 
8:27 PM
@DeadMG When you compare the end of S2 with the start of S1, you find that actually quite a lot was developed, but with an emphasis on detail rather than speed.
@DeadMG Except they didn't. So... no. The aliens followed.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, they didn't- only a very short way out of their own galaxy when Destiny dropped out.
they didn't really pursue Destiny into the next galaxy.
 
@DeadMG Please provide an example of Rush being a dick in ways that theatened the survival of the whole group.
 
When they first brought up the stones and how Rush was put in command (I think that's how it went?) I thought he's plain lying, and that would be much more interesting
But then poof stones
Fuck that
 
@DeadMG They did. See "Deliverance".
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Let me just check my reference.
 
8:29 PM
@DeadMG During a fight with drones, Chloe sent a signal to the Nakai, who then showed up.
 
They had a name?
 
@CatPlusPlus Emplaced into canon by statements from producers
@CatPlusPlus Take that how you will
 
So they didn't have a name
 
@CatPlusPlus The wiki uses it, so I use it. I can call them "the blue aliens" if that'll make you feel less dickish.
 
Never
 
8:30 PM
Not mentionned on the show --> Unnamed aliens
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh- they appeared once, in one episode, and didn't really do much.
 
so that's hardly showing up in the next season
 
@DeadMG That still blows your "they do not follow into the next galaxy" idea out of the water.
 
the vast majority of S2 totally ignores them
 
8:31 PM
@DeadMG Um, yes. Showing up in the next season is... showing up in the next season.
 
I mean, fundamentally, we never learn who they are, what they really want, and why they ever did anything with Chloe.
 
Cuz she's hawt?
 
@DeadMG Because the show was cancelled.
 
Anyway 200 is the best episode of any show ever
 
@DeadMG Of course I can only speculate as much as anyone else, but I see no reason to believe that they were just never going to mention it again
@CatPlusPlus It was hands down the worst episode of SG-1 ever.
 
8:33 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Both SG1 and SGA set up their primary enemies' basic motivation in their first episode.
 
@CatPlusPlus You don't mess with the fourth wall in my Stargate, mister writer!
 
Well okay maybe second to Window of Opportunity
 
@DeadMG Which is shit
@DeadMG Appeals to the simple folk, though, I guess!
 
nah
 
SGU had a second season?
 
8:33 PM
 
Woah I really don't remember anything
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit this can only be read in comic book guy's voice
 
@CatPlusPlus it did
 
If only life worked that way. You go out on the street and everyone who's ever gonna have a beef against you is lined up. "Right, so here's the problem I'm going to try to kill you over. Listen carefully."
 
it works to reveal your opponent's motivations/whatever later, but only under some circumstances.
 
8:34 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yes. Then a cliffhanger they were supposed to resolve in a film.
Then everything crashed.
 
Cuz they all got jobs
 
SNAFU
 
you can't spend an entire season fighting an opponent and have no idea why.
 
Stargate was doomed by the end of SG-1 season 8
 
@DeadMG They knew why.
 
8:35 PM
if you were talking about a recurring enemy, like, say, the Replicators from SG1, then the audience expects the long haul.
 
The aliens wanted destiny didn't they?
 
To Replicators I can only say "ugh Replicators in SGA"
 
but for a primary enemy, you'd expect to know WTF is going on.
 
@CatPlusPlus SG-1 -O'Neil == !SG-1
@CatPlusPlus Oh fuck the replicators from SGA. Seriously.
 
@DeadMG They wanted Destiny. A super-advanced starship ploughing through their local galaxies.
@DeadMG They knew that a bunch of people had just arrived on it to study it.
 
8:37 PM
S9, S10 weren't terrible, but Mitchell could've been better character
 
^ This
 
it barely works and they were more likely to destroy it than gain it by attacking it
not to mention that doesn't explain at all WTF was going on with Chloe.
 
Vala owns though
 
@DeadMG Which explains how... they didn't destroy it? Yeah, that makes sense.
 
He wasn't as funny. Or relatable somehow.
 
8:37 PM
@DeadMG They used her to gain intelligence, then extracted the intelligence. Because, yes, they'd rather find out about Destiny than blow her up. Were you not watching?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What about the bit where she started gaining intelligence?
 
There's a trope for that probably
 
@DeadMG Now that I'll grant you. I'd have wanted to see that explored in S3.
 
cause I can totally see the whole "mind read" thing.
but why add information back to her mind?
 
Because that's how it works~
 
8:39 PM
@DeadMG If we hadn't seen anything new about Chloe's "condition" by the end of S3 then I'd have started saying "okay maybe you guys have a point". But nah. She'd only just started showing her true abilities by the end.
@DeadMG They didn't add information. She gained intelligence, not knowledge.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's not quite the portrayal I got. The formulae she scribbled on the wall, there was no suggestion that she derived them herself.
 
Anyway, point is, if LOST can last six seasons and not explain anything, SGU deserved more than to be cut off after two before having a chance to continue explaining things slowly.
@DeadMG Sure there was. She was able to perform complex maths. She studied Destiny's database and understood things. It's comprehension. It follows that she learned things from continuing to study under Rush's tutelage after that -- in fact it's almost stated.
 
not to mention the means she used to contact them- what, did she gain years of experience of operating Ancient communications technology (and know the translation for "HELP ME PLIX")?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ah, I also hate on LOST.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit most people don't like good things
 
I liked LOST =/ to some degree anyway
 
8:41 PM
@DeadMG Why use words? Just a transmission in Destiny's format will do.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, but at the time they grabbed her, she had no idea what Destiny's format was.
 
@EindacorDS Yeah :(
 
the jersey shore also lasted 6 seasons
 
@DeadMG That was quite a long time before she sent the signal. So not relevant.
 
8:42 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, but after she scribbled it on the wall. Did Destiny's database know human mathematical symbols?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Right, but how did they know what it meant?
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's every game ever
 
@DeadMG Why would they care? "There Destiny is" is enough.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That's every PC game ever.
 
Unless it doesn't use DX
 
Most do
 
8:42 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Perhaps- if they even use the same communications frequencies/technology.
 
@DeadMG Okay to be fair I don't remember the strict order of events of her brainchange
 
The difference is that Steam tells you it's installing
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit The first evidence of it was "Chloe scribbles stuff on the wall".
 
While the rest does it quietly during the installation of the game itself
 
@DeadMG Basic high-school maths knowledge applied to a vastly increased intellect?
 
8:43 PM
where "stuff" is "hideously advanced mathematics almost beyond Rush and Eli, written in human notation".
 
I've always been curious why they all fucking install it. I mean.. can't they just check?
 
@CatPlusPlus Not on consoles. But I know you don't play on consoles. Instead you play on Linux.
 
@Borgleader The installer does check,.
 
@DeadMG Maybe she did pick some info up in the mind transfer stuff then
 
(I'm kidding)
 
8:43 PM
@DeadMG Why is it that they all install it anyway?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Right. But... human mathematical notation?
 
They run DirectX installer and it installs whatever it needs wherever it needs if it's needed
 
@Borgleader I think they're not allowed to do the check themselves.
 
Point is, they fucking cancelled it before we could find out, and I am quite confident that we would have done. In the meantime, gorgeous visuals, beautiful sound, real people, enjoyable stories (omg the descendants! OMG!)... all gone.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I guess that makes sense.
 
8:44 PM
@DeadMG I presume Chloe did some maths at school.
 
@Borgleader It doesn't install. It starts, sees it's there, and then exits.
 
@DeadMG She knows what + does
 
Doing the check yourself is stupid, because the location and all is implementation detail
 
@DeadMG Also recall that they pulled knowledge from Rush too. Maybe some got shared?
 
Too many people write shitty software with hardcoded paths that were never meant to be hardcoded
 
user142019
8:45 PM
I'm going to see Rammstein live. :3
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That would be a much more sufficient explanation.
 
The only justification I can accept for cancelling SGU is "it was too expensive", which was a big factor. But it's really down to the shitty Nielsen system. Despite widespread vocal criticism from chavs who thought S5 of Atlantis was good, I maintain that there was likely a quieter majority who enjoyed the high production value of SGU but who were never given Nielsen boxes. Because, I mean, who is?!
 
@CatPlusPlus "Too many people write shitty software" FTFY
 
Doesn't matter, though. When I win €140,000,000 in the EuroMillions, I'll fund some SGU.
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit I think it was somewhat less about SGU being expensive per se, and more about MGM going bankrupt, which may or may not have been the fault of SGU.
 
8:48 PM
Speaking of cancelled shows... I want Dresden Files back :(
I'll make the next minecraft and fund it damnit
 
dude
fuckin' Firefly
 
I havent watched that yet =/
Everyone tells me I should
 
or BSG, because then we wouldn't have had to have that horrifically shitty ending.
or Jericho
 
BSG was good oh god soooooo sooooo good
 
@DeadMG Awwwwyeah.
 
8:48 PM
Farscape
 
@DeadMG Jericho was soooo good.
 
but then
if there was more Firefly
there wouldn't be Castle.
 
Is that good?
 
no
 
Ive seen a bit of Castle. It's ok
 
8:49 PM
Firefly > Castle ? hard question
 
I know Fillion's on it, but still.
 
@DeadMG That didn't help I'm sure
 
oh, wait
did you mean "Would cancelling Castle be good?" or "Is Castle good?".
 
@DeadMG When asked recently whether I'd want to see Firefly brought back or SGU, I said SGU, mostly because Firefly has kinda been gone for too long now.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit All the actors have moved on, the sets destroyed, etc.
 
8:50 PM
Same for SGU
 
@DeadMG Ageing doesn't help
To a degree
 
If they kept sets they kept the really small chunks.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, Fillion sure ain't as spry as he was.
 
Keep those costs a bunch
Is Sanctuary any good?
 
I enjoyed it
 
8:51 PM
@Borgleader I thought BSG was too corny. The gfx were terrible.
 
@AndreiTita Corny?
 
Oh Sanctuary
 
@AndreiTita They were fantastic for a few years
 
Sanctuary is a show that made it possible for me to recognise cheap CGI on spot
 
8:52 PM
@Borgleader It means "somewhat like corn".
 
@AndreiTita Resurrection Ship, Part II? "terrible"? c'mon.
 
I meant gimme an example of what you found corny in BSG
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Cylons? terrible.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah, apparently they had no sets at all.
 
Xeo
lol, watching Herb's talk... "beating the compiler into submission"
 
8:53 PM
Herb's talk, man, was serious shit.
 
I was watching some of the latest BBT episodes and noticed it was probably green-screened too
 
BBT?
 
@CatPlusPlus It probably is. A lot of shit is green screened these days
 
(I linked directly to the pertinent part of the video)
 
8:53 PM
@DeadMG The Big Bang Theory
 
Like literally we were watching it and I go "hold on a second, there's something different"
"Looks like CGI"
Granted we were drunk at the time but still
 
@AndreiTita I don't recall any centurions in that episode.
 
The plot of Sanctuary is, eh, I don't know
 
@Borgleader Couldn't take the robots seriously. Also so much drawn-out drama. "Maybe I am a Cylon? Should I kill myself?". Don't take me too seriously though I haven't watched much.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I meant in general.
 
@AndreiTita You were replying to my counter-argument of a specific case.
 
Xeo
8:55 PM
@DeadMG Why?
 
@AndreiTita You're not wrong
 
@Xeo Eh, I never really considered a lot of that stuff before.
 
Anyway, g2g school done.
 
the MT compiler, in many cases, has to do some serious pessimizations.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Oh, you meant "it was good", not "seriously shit".
 
8:55 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I didn't really know what you were talking about. I haven't seen any of those bits. They look much better than everything I had seen on BSG. Ever.
 
Xeo
You should consider your word choice a bit more. :P
 
@AndreiTita Then it seems like you didn't actually watch the show.
@AndreiTita Perhaps consider watching it before landing such harsh judgement
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Why
 
@AndreiTita Um
@AndreiTita Yeah okay you got me there
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what's terrible there?
 
8:57 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm basing my judgment on what I've seen of course. And what I've seen didn't entice me to watch any more.
 
@melak47 Absolutely nothing whatsoever.
 
@melak47 @AndreiTita finds it terrible.
not @LightnessRacesinOrbit
aghhh really g2g
bye
 
@AndreiTita Sounds like you'd be more than slightly pleasantly surprised
 
@Borgleader I AM A MINDLESS HATER. HATE ME.
 
@Xeo Ah. Yes, the talked-about shit is serious, not the talk is shit (serious).
 
8:58 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Dunno. Watched random bits at a friend's place. Seen stuff at the beginning, middle and I guess sometime in the second half, so...
 
Xeo
@DeadMG That sounds more sensible.
 

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