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7:00 PM
@thecoshman It's not like I wrote it :P
 
is c++ a good language for game development? i realize that's probably a loaded question
 
I need animation support, and the only ones I know that do that are .FBX, .X and ... ... .MD2 and above.
@EindacorDS Depends on what you want.
 
@EtiennedeMartel amazing what we can do with technology these days
 
@EindacorDS Most AAA projects use C++.
 
@ThePhD fbx is ok
@EindacorDS depends
 
7:01 PM
@EindacorDS See @DeadMG's answer here: gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/25492/…
 
@EindacorDS Pretty much the language for game development.
 
@BartekBanachewicz We decided we would be targeting only the PC, so we're quite up on the bleeding edge of things.
 
okey, now only raycasts and deletion, and my quadtree is functioning
@EtiennedeMartel is it in opengl?
 
@BartekBanachewicz D3D11.
 
He mentioned C#, so I'm betting my bottom dollar it's DirectX.
YEEAH!
 
7:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Meh.
 
I'm using D3D11 too. ^-^
 
@ThePhD C++ engine, C# tools.
 
@ThePhD Meh
 
@BartekBanachewicz so... not utter shit?
 
@DeadMG good to know, basically why i'm here in the first place
 
7:02 PM
@thecoshman I'll let you know when I read it, deal?
 
That guy managed to get a deferred renderer running.
 
@EindacorDS it sis commonly used, not to say it is good :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's not very hard, actually
 
@EindacorDS Whoah, whoah. Most game developers don't actually know C++ at all.
 
And then some transparency with depth peeling.
 
7:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz works for me :P
 
And now he's running wild with post processing effects.
 
@DeadMG game developer != programmer
 
if you want to be a typical gamedev, no C++ knowledge required, just jump in, assume it's C and cry if anyone so much as speaks of, I dunno, templates.
 
@EtiennedeMartel WTB your friend.
 
I don't really understand what's going on, but it looks good. I'm busy working on tools anyway.
 
7:03 PM
Anyway, Last time I've checked DX was quite behing OGL, so I don't really know what's bleeding edge for you guys
 
@BartekBanachewicz OGL is terrible.
 
@DeadMG well i don't know any programming languages at all, and i read c++ is a good place to get a decent foundation for whatever else i'd want to learn
 
DX has been ahead for the last several years.
 
I don't know what's different about OGL and D3D11 anymore.
 
@DeadMG still better than Direct?X
@DeadMG ummm
 
7:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz If you compare D3D9 to OGL4, sure.
 
As far as I'm concerned, both support the latest and greatest, which is: Tessellation.
And Compute Shaders.
 
@EindacorDS That it is. If you learn C++ well, you're quite well situated.
 
After that, I could really care less.
 
@EindacorDS depends what you want to do
 
7:04 PM
> Transform feedback support without a geometry shader being active (EXT_transform_feedback)
 
@BartekBanachewicz There's lots missing from that list.
 
If you learn C++ well, you'll know C++ well
 
like, say, extension hell
 
integration with host operating system
text rendering
 
7:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, right, with extensions.
 
@CatPlusPlus take that to the printers!
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fuck GLEW.
 
I hate using OpenGL extensions.
 
@DeadMG L2P.
 
7:05 PM
My god, it's such a pain.
Just build it into the fucking thing and let me query if its usable or not >_<
 
But, yeah, it wouldn't be fair to compare D3D11 to core OGL4.
 
Use a loader, never think about extensions being extensions
 
I like the way D3D11 handles their features.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You're comparing an API against another API with a massive shitty C wrapper on top.
 
@ThePhD Er, you do that
 
7:06 PM
@CatPlusPlus But it's hard and complicated and PFNGLVERTEXATTRIB fffffffffffffffffffffff.
 
Use a loader scrub
It's already written
 
glLoad or GLEW?
 
Stop being bad
glload
 
Well, that's my other thing. Why do I need an external library to use features of the library? ._.
 
@ThePhD Because market fragmentation is cool.
 
7:07 PM
you don't need to, but you should. and they are not features of the library per se, hence the term 'extension'
 
@ThePhD You don't need it
 
Ell
my internet seems to have stabilised now
alas, I am going to the pub quiz.
@BartekBanachewicz where is VertexAttributesArray (or something? I need windows for stable internet :'( )
 
Anyway, yesterday I've been reading on hosting the CLR.
Looks pretty interestingu.
 
Well, you need it, but in the same capacity as you need a matrix library
 
Hosting the CLR?
 
7:08 PM
still, if you want to support non Windows platforms, you have to suck it and use OepnGL.
 
Also, I keep trying to compile glload in Kyrostat and I get
 
I want to use C# for scripting.
 
a bajamilloin errors.
 
Mono is pretty embeddable
 
@thecoshman We're targeting only Windows.
PC gaming, you know?
 
7:09 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't it Compiler.DomServices
 
@thecoshman Fortunately, those are a massive minority.
 
or, uh
 
@EtiennedeMartel who's we?
 
CSharp.DomServices.Compiler
 
@thecoshman Me and 5 other guys.
 
7:09 PM
Man I don't remember exactly.
 
Ell
@DeadMG are they?
 
It's not "fortunately"
 
Ell
Do windows phones use dx?
 
@Ell Yes.
 
@Ell Yeah.
 
7:09 PM
@CatPlusPlus You're right- it's super-fortunately.
 
@Ell D3D11.1.
 
Ell
sorry, that one
 
@DeadMG stop being a fan boy would you
 
No, it's just a stupid loop
 
@thecoshman He's not a fanboy, he's of the "if I don't use it nobody does" variety.
 
7:10 PM
There's Steam on Linux now and it's gonna change~
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't think so.
 
Ell
@DeadMG why? because of the quality of opengl?
 
@EtiennedeMartel And statistically, basically nobody does use Linux for gaming.
 
Ell
@DeadMG they will if gabe says they should ;P
 
Because majority of the games support only Windows
 
7:11 PM
@Ell I doubt it.
 
The main issue is Linux is not casual user friendly.
 
That hasn't been true forever
 
@CatPlusPlus Because there's no reason to support Linux.
 
As for hardcore gamers, most of them are neck deep in their comfort zones and don't want to switch.
 
1 min ago, by Cat Plus Plus
No, it's just a stupid loop
 
7:11 PM
@EtiennedeMartel lies
 
@EtiennedeMartel There's no reason for them to switch.
 
Ell
anyway byes
 
@EtiennedeMartel neck deep up there own ass you mean
 
Well.... Linux isn't hard to program for. In fact it's the most programmer-friendly. But most Linux operating systems are not people-friendly, in general.
 
There's one Linux operating system
 
7:12 PM
@thecoshman You might be in Linux' target audience, but most people aren't.
 
@ThePhD Argh. Tell that to creat and stat. WTF, seriously.
 
Yes, that's very relevant
 
And it's like there's no real effort at building a Linux distro that's aimed at people who don't know how to use a command line.
 
@EtiennedeMartel This.
 
WinRT > POSIX.
 
7:13 PM
Speaking of this, how's Ubuntu going?
 
Nobody wants to interact with a command line.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Distros like Ubuntu are noob friendly, I have introduced a few people who don't know shit, and have had to offer them less support
 
I see we're at the point where mocking gifs are necessary
 
@Abyx What?
 
16 secs ago, by Etienne de Martel
Speaking of this, how's Ubuntu going?
 
7:13 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Ubuntu
 
@EtiennedeMartel in what way?
 
@Rapptz posix sucks.
 
@CatPlusPlus Is hideously ineffective.
 
POSIX is a standard
 
At what?
 
7:13 PM
@thecoshman I haven't heard of it in a while. I mean, a few years ago it was all the rage, but now...
 
@DeadMG funny... it works
 
POSIX is a bad standard
 
@Rapptz and it sucks.
 
But Windows isn't much better
 
Ubuntu isn't bad (and like, some high percentage of Linux gamers (80% or above?) use Ubuntu).
 
7:14 PM
@EtiennedeMartel well... it's still in development if that is what you mean?
 
I have nothing against POSIX
 
@thecoshman If the goal is to get people to switch from Windows, then not really.
 
@CatPlusPlus WinRT is better. 'coz it's OO
 
@Abyx Aaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaghahahahahahahahahahahah
 
@DeadMG strange... people are switching...
 
7:15 PM
@Abyx lol
 
@thecoshman Who?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Last year I used Ubuntu a lot until they forced that stupid, unmoveable side-bar on me.
Granted, with the command line I could punch it around, but even then.
 
What side-bar? Unity?
 
Yeah, Unity.
 
user142019
 
7:15 PM
@ScottW Microsoft'll never die.
 
You can run normal GNOME 3 which doesn't have it
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, I can no provide you a personal list. But from stats I have seen, Linux is slowly and stedily gaining momentum
 
You just need to use combobox at login screen~
 
user142019
This is one of the few songs that are frequently on the radio that I don’t find terrible.
 
@CatPlusPlus See, that's what I'm talking about.
 
7:16 PM
 
@thecoshman I wonder if it's exclusively amongst hardcore users.
 
Nah, shit's looking bleak for Windows
 
Why do I have to go through all that hoopla for some decent configurability?
 
@ThePhD it's a shock yes, but you get used to it and it is actually rather nice, for me at least
 
@ThePhD Compared to what? Windows?
Ahahaha
 
7:16 PM
I used it since 9.04 and unity ruined Ubuntu alright.
 
@ThePhD wut
 
@CatPlusPlus but isn't "bleak" for MS still a vast majority of the market share?
 
user142019
Ubuntu was already FUBAR.
 
@CatPlusPlus In Mac OSX and Windows, I could control where my Taskbar/Dock ended up. I could also control how obnoxiously large it was.
 
@thecoshman I doubt that. The only stats I could show which found that Windows was decreasing as a total market share indicated that it was losing all that share to Android/iOS, not desktop Linuxes.
 
7:17 PM
@EtiennedeMartel that I can not say, but it is taking users from windows, or at least the percentage sahre.
 
It also didn't take combobox and some command line FU to do it, in Windows or Mac OSX.
 
@ThePhD Yes, Dock is very configurable
 
user142019
More Windows users means more malware for Windows and less for Linux.
 
You don't need any command lines jesus
 
user142019
So don’t use Linux. I’ll do that.
 
7:18 PM
@ThePhD you can in ubunutu, sure you may need to install a nice GUI if you are that way inclined, but you can control it
 
Also decide whether you're complaining that shit is too configurable (OH NO I HAVE TO USE A COMBOBOX TO CHOOSE WHICH SHELL I WANT TO RUN) or not configurable enough
Because
 
no, not really.
 
user142019
Unity is bad.
 
user142019
KDE is bad.
 
something can be both too configurable and not configurable enough at the same time.
 
user142019
7:19 PM
GNOME is bad.
 
user142019
Use xmonad.
 
user142019
And a status bar if you like it.
 
@Zoidberg or i3..
 
user142019
dassf
 
I want a pink black horse
 
7:20 PM
 
what make linux better from a user's standpoint for someone who isn't into programming? i've never actually used a linux-based system, like most of the people i know.
 
@CatPlusPlus I want a pony made of diamonds named Piss-for-Brains.
 
Butt Stallion says hello
 
@EindacorDS it's kinda "free"
 
@AndreiTita Posted it this morning :P
 
7:22 PM
@Borgleader Ah damn. I've had that since the beginning of the week but it seemed too early :p
 
Eh, give it a few years and Windows gonna be free too
 
funny stuff
 
@EindacorDS what variant of linux? If you can use windows, you can use Lindows.
 
@CatPlusPlus it's almost free now
 
@CatPlusPlus oh you so funny
 
7:22 PM
@Abyx well that's swell
 
@thecoshman No, really
From major desktop OSes, only Windows is not free as of yet
 
@Abyx no, the cost is hidden from people because they have no option but to pay for it
 
OSX you get with hardware
Linux is totally free
 
@EindacorDS it's a damn site more light weight
 
@ScottW What?
 
Xeo
7:24 PM
back
 
@CatPlusPlus meh, you get windows with a laptop
 
@Zoidberg ITT: we can offer the advice that you are currently using terrible software and provide an alternative. goto ITT
 
@CatPlusPlus OSX? AFAIK you can't just upgrade to latest version for free, or just get a copy for free
 
@Abyx That's the point, how many people actually BUY Windows
It's mostly companies at this point
 
@CatPlusPlus OS X has a larger market share than Linux, IIRC.
 
7:25 PM
@CatPlusPlus nearly every one who buys a computer. They just don't have any option to not buy it
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's Windows, OSX and Linux
40 secs ago, by Cat Plus Plus
It's mostly companies at this point
 
@CatPlusPlus And BSD!
 
My guess, though, is that Windows will basically only live in businesses.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ahahaha
 
yeah but does linux have a superfly, easy-to-read, touch-friendly tile menu design like that hot-ass windows 8?!?!
 
7:26 PM
And at home, people will use their tablets and smartphones.
 
Fuck tablets and smartphones
PC isn't going anywhere
 
So, probably Android.
 
@EindacorDS linux, no. Distro's that use it, yes
 
@CatPlusPlus You are not representative of the market.
 
can i make a giant angry birds button right on my menu interface easy-to-user friendly?
 
7:26 PM
In fact, I'd say you're a statistical anomaly.
 
user142019
I currently use urxvt but I dislike it.
 
I think that he is right
 
@EtiennedeMartel Predicting that desktop gaming will die off has been done before and is still foolish.
 
user142019
What's a better terminal emulator?
 
Most people in this room are statistical anomalies.
5
 
7:26 PM
there's too much existing software for Windows to simply throw it away.
 
@AndreiTita It won't die. It'll become a niche market.
 
@ScottW that's hilarious
 
Try writing code on a tablet/smartphone~
 
@EtiennedeMartel I doubt Crysis3 would run on a tablet
 
@CatPlusPlus So, there's enough programmers in the world to sustain the market?
@Abyx How many people will play Crysis 3? How large is that compared to the people who play on their phones?
 
7:28 PM
@CatPlusPlus I can totally see having a keyboard, mouse, speakers, and monitor, wirelessly hooked up to tablet/phones in 20 years though.
 
@MooingDuck And it'll be totally different than a PC
 
i just want all of my devices run through my kinect, is that so much to ask?
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck Heck, those exist already today.
 
user142019
Is Terminator good? I don’t need its split functionality.
 
@CatPlusPlus It's smaller!
 
7:29 PM
@Xeo sure, but so do PCs
 
@CatPlusPlus It'll run Android.
 
@Zoidberg Terminator and Terminator 2 are good, I think.
 
Smaller isn't really a feature for me.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool, thanks.
 
So what you're saying is that Linux will gain majority of the market :v
 
7:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus In a way, yeah.
But not on the desktop.
 
0
Q: C++ cant seem to modify int variable?

BartI have made a simple c++ program, but the variable 'enemyhp' didnt want to change.. After all im sure its just the int variable not wanting to change?! Any help appreciated, thanks Here is my code: #include <iostream> #include <string> #include <windows.h> using namespace ...

 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel cough Windows tablet cough
 
Damn variable didn't want to change.
 
@EindacorDS what does that even mean?
 
7:30 PM
@Xeo Yeah, if it works. But Android is eating everyone alive, with only lawsuits keeping it from crushing iOS.
 
Xeo
> enemyhp - attackq;
Wtf is that dude compiling with to not get a warning.
 
Probably VC++.
I don't think it wanrs about things like that.
warns*
GCC would warn the shit out of you though
 
@ThePhD It does with /W4.
Which isn't the default setting.
 
@thecoshman it means i want to be able to shout "XBox, feed the baby!" so I can get some r&r
 
W3 is usually the default
 
7:31 PM
@Xeo At first I was confused, then I realised he isn't assigning it to anything lol
 
Xeo
@ThePhD > warning C4552: '-' : operator has no effect; expected operator with side-effect
 
@ScottW I wonder how it'll fare against Android.
 
@Xeo :O Shiny
 
Android is shit
 
@Xeo Heh, you were faster.
 
7:32 PM
@Xeo Are you still at work?
 
@ThePhD Dat Firefly reference.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes He's still online duh
 
@CatPlusPlus I don't recall seeing quality ever affecting the sales of a product.
 
@xeo using vs2010?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, I magically connect my brain through the ether with Lounge<C++>.
@AndreiTita VC11
 
7:33 PM
I mean, here's the thing. The Default operating system for most PC's is Windows, so unless someone makes the conscious decision to bundle a Linux OS, Linux doesn't end up in most people's hands.
 
@ScottW I don't think it's out yet
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel /W3
 
@Xeo It also does with /W4 :3
 
Xeo
Yeah, but that wasn't your point.
 
@Xeo No, that's a level 4 warning.
 
7:33 PM
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A: C++ cant seem to modify int variable?

qPCR4virenemyhp - attackq; ?? enemyhp -= attackq; or enemyhp = attackq; ?

 
The same is with Mobile Devices. You usually don't bundle Ubuntu on it and vendors usually don't give you a choice to, so most people stick to the default
 
USE LESS WORDS IT WILL MAKE A GOOD POST
 
Xeo
@AndreiTita I'm compiling with /W3 and I get that warning...
 
one of my biggest worries is that some day i'll post an SO question, then I'll see someone mockingly post it here. not looking forward to it
 
Xeo
@AndreiTita VC10 has it with /W3 too.
@EindacorDS That's a good fear.
 
7:34 PM
@EindacorDS Count on it
 
@Xeo FFS, the 4 at the start was supposed to signify a level 4 warning. MY LIFE HAS BEEN A LIE.
 
I don't even look at who posted :v
 
Xeo
@AndreiTita Lol, no.
 
One of these days I'll find my own old post and mock it
 
@Xeo But I've read it on SO :(
 
Xeo
7:35 PM
C4XXX means warning. C2XXX is compiler error.
 
0
Q: Who played the Airperson who was verbally shoved aside by McKay in "The Intruder"?

Lightness Races in OrbitWho portrays the delightful Airperson to whom McKay barks "don't be there!" around midway through Stargate: Atlantis's excellent second season episode "The Intruder"? As she is a wordless extra, this information may not exist publicly. But you never know.

hehe
 
It's level 1 warning
 
@CatPlusPlus You already make fun of your mktime answer
 
@Xeo I suppose you could be syphooning bandwidth from a café or something. Wouldn't be the first time.
 
7:36 PM
@Rapptz Mostly of people voting on it
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but from my phone I'm not able to answer to messages directly.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What is it with you and cute sci-fi women.
4
 
Xeo
And I wouldn't be able to compile stuff.
 
@AndreiTita Is that a trick question?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ...maybe.
 
7:37 PM
@AndreiTita Okay :)
 
Woah I need 2 upboats for cap
 
> upboats
 
Been a while
Oh god 781 installs
 
Whenever I postpone a windows restart I feel so dastardly. Like "heh, heh, sure Windows darling, you can restart in 4 hours... maybe. We'll see."
 
Xeo
@AndreiTita If you like that, don't upgrade to Win8
 
7:38 PM
@Xeo Oh, no laptop?
 
@Xeo Not planning to.
 
Xeo
Once a month, on Patch Dayâ„¢, you'll get a force restart. :3
But otherwise, it lets you be.
 
Why would anyone upgrade to Win8
 
Oh man I love taking painkillers they make me so high.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was a poor guy before work!
 
7:39 PM
(Some of my coworkers did :cripes:)
 
I can just type crap into this channel all night long.
 
@CatPlusPlus I did.
 
Although I'll probably fall asleep or something.
 
and now I regret about it =\
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Honestly, if you're in Desktop mode the whole time, it's not much different from Win7
 
7:40 PM
@AndreiTita You should make a club with @Ell
Ahahaha desktop mode oh god
 
Actually I'll finish writing some code.
Hopefully.
 
Xeo
I'm not really finding any direct problems with Win8
I thought I would, but I just can't.
 
I have so little time to code my stuff since I started work :(
 
user142019
I like Terminator so far.
 
I went to the Tomb Raider IGDA presentation last night. I can't wait for school to go back in the games industry :(
 
7:41 PM
@Zoidberg Did you get to the part where he cuts his arm?
 
user142019
@Xeo still not UNIX. :D
 
user142019
@AndreiTita irrelevant.
 
@Zoidberg orly.
 
@CatPlusPlus 782; I installed it! :D
Now I need one to shrink the user list.
 
user142019
@AndreiTita Jawohl.
 
7:46 PM
Oh hey SourceTree will be on Windows
 
Your Bad Planning/Writing attack was unsuccessful. Teyla Emmagan uses Cue Spontaneous Singing ! It was super effective. — John O 6 mins ago
lol
@Zoidberg Please specify.
 
@Borgleader Oh, how was it?
 
user142019
@LightnessRacesinOrbit First of all, it actually works with the clipboard.
 
user142019
And it has tabs.
 
A plot hole in my Atlantis? Impossible
 
7:49 PM
It's just a case of lazy writing.
 
@Zoidberg I think we're talking at cross-purposes.
 
user142019
wat
 
@Zoidberg Is Terminator some kind of editor, then?
 
user142019
It's a terminal emulator.
 
@Zoidberg Okay.
 
user142019
7:51 PM
I upgraded to it from urxvt.
 
@Zoidberg I thought perhaps you were being normal and watching TV or a movie. My mistake.
 
Yeah, Atlantis had some bad writing, but I was too busy having fun with Sheppard and McKay's double act to notice.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Precisely
@EtiennedeMartel Not enough to carry the show, though
I mean, it got really reliant on that towards the end.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It was pretty much the only thing you could hang on to.
 
I got this today as a gift :D
 
7:52 PM
@Rapptz Yeah, received mine two weeks ago.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit people still watch tv?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. I'd have been happy with a closing film or two. As it is, I'm being forced to miss it because of MGM's bankruptcy stealing closure from us.
 
@andre There are still plenty of good television series.
 
@andre I think he meant TV as in "stuff made for TV".
 
7:53 PM
@Rapptz TEHY'RE HANDING THOSE OUT? ;~;
I WANT ONE!
 
Atlantis needed closure? I don't even remember how it ends
 
Yeah, me neither.
 
@ThePhD It's on Amazon
 
@CatPlusPlus They land Atlantis next to San Francisco, I think.
 
I could tell you, unless you do not wish to be spoilt. I imagine neither of you care that much.
Never mind.
 
7:53 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Agreed there are good shows. all available on the net.
 
Oh, riiiight
 
@EtiennedeMartel It was nice, I got to see a bunch of people from the team. And then the presentation was pretty cool too. Interesting to see all the thought process behind the game design and all the production challenges.
 
@andre I'm still waiting for the rest of Doctor Who to air. That christmas special was tight.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah. Atlantis in the Pacific. What silly writers.
 
The "we happened to found an intergalactical jump drive lying around just in time to save the day"
 
7:54 PM
Also my comment about "I didn't know Ludia sponsored IGDA" from this morning it's because I saw the logo on the sponsor page.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It wasn't bad. I genuinely had no idea that they were going to change the style/sets/clothes so that was a bit of a shock. Not a good one actually, as I was a huge fan of how things had been recently.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Although how they deal with the collateral damage would have been a good thing to explore.
I mean, I'm fairly certain everyone saw that thing landing.
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah. We didn't use it before because there's a high probability that it will kill us all, even though there's a very low probability that that'll actually happen today
 
@EtiennedeMartel Didn't it have cloaking or something?
 
@EtiennedeMartel They managed to cloak before getting too close.
 
7:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes They cloak it after they land, IIRC.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Really? Well, well.
 
user142019
DNS y u fail.
 
I'm probably remembering it wrong.
 
See, nobody remembers how it ends
 
> WOOLSEY: We managed to activate the cloak before we came in too close. This entire area is under naval quarantine.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit AKA "Phew, patched that plot hole".
 
7:56 PM
You can find all the detail you need inside of 20 seconds! Yay, internet!
 
They'll never notice this new flying city of ours
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah
 
@CatPlusPlus It's invisible.
 
@CatPlusPlus Flying city *snigger*
 
It'd be funnier if it wasn't
 
7:57 PM
Also, they so totally ripped off the design of SC2's mothership.
 
Now that I think about it I remember just few bits of Atlantis
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit
 
user142019
tomahawk
 
Invisible flying city. Identifiable only by the traces of bird blood coating the entire outside barrier, forming the ghostly outline of a flying city as they drift through the clouds.
 
> The Web Application Project X is configured to use IIS. The Web server 'http://localhost/X' could not be found.
Well thanks Visual Studio for giving me an opportunity to FIX THE DAMN THING
 

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