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1:00 PM
Hmmm, POP works, but not IMAP.
 
@DeadMG :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well if you were as sweet as thePhD I would be less of an ass
 
I had a pork pie, but I need more. Maybe cheese sandwich.
 
@Telkitty Being an ass is about your behaviour, not other people's.
 
I might not be the sweetest person on earth, but whoever I verbally assaulted truly deserved it
 
1:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes yep, works for me
 
Tel. is Australian. Being an ass comes with the (Northern) territory :)
 
Never wonder why there are people who I never insulted on this lounge?
@MartinJames but being an ass is different from being a fat ass?
 
@Telkitty You might claim that. I couldn't possibly comment.
 
@MartinJames but a fat ass is usually less an ass than an ass, how could that be? Isn't a fat ass more of an ass than a average ass?
Or have I confused myself (and everyone around me already)?
 
Oh wow, POP gets me messages from 2007.
Also, neat, I accidentally found my old campaign notes.
 
1:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heh - you given up with IMAP.
 
@MartinJames No. Just tried POP for debugging and it logs in with the same password I am trying on IMAP.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lemme guess - someone from the Lounge wrote your IMAP lib :)
 
This is quite frustrating.
 
Mail server: check.
Account: check.
Connection: check.
Password: check.
IMAP library...
 
Oh well, lotsa people in the forums complaining.
 
1:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What error does it throw?
 
user1804599
@DeadMG I decided to use the .NET API with F#.
 
I did?
 
@MartinJames Complains about bad credentials.
 
welcome to my uni.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, SSL:(
@BartekBanachewicz LOL! I've always found that the down-arrow means that the lift is on its way down. First time I've seen the actual arrow on the wall dropping:)
 
1:28 PM
it's just FUBAR
 
Xeo
Great. We need one of our artists to finish two of our tasks for today, and he is nowhere to be found.
 
@Xeo Try the attic.
 
s/attic/basement/
hmm I'm wondering about another GPU
in SLI
and a 27" 16:9 screen in the middle
it would be nearly as tall as my two others (meaning a bit taller)
so I could have central 27" and two 24" sidescreens
26" 16:9 would be exactly as tall
hmm or just another 24"
I'd like a third one
fuck now I really want a 3rd screen
 
Xeo
At least you don't want 6 screens.
 
Heh - there's a question about 'security' in a MS DOS 6.22 / BORLAND C 3.1 environment:)
I'm guessing another Indian Uni with Jurassic tools.
 
user3010322
1:41 PM
> Thanks for your feedback. In order to efficiently investigate and reproduce this issue, we are requesting additional information outlined below.

Could you please give us a demo project so that we can conduct further research?

Please submit this information to us within 3 business days. We look forward to hearing from you with this information.

Microsoft Visual Studio Connect Support Team
 
user3010322
Mother fuckers, I gave you a link to Coliru, I put demo code in the sample, and I attached a screenshot.
 
user3010322
How dense are you mother fuckers. <_>
 
user3010322
Microsoft -- because they can only think in small, tiny intervals, otherwise they'll hurt their soft, squishy brain materals. =l
 
@ThePhD Yeah, but the WeDontCare robot always sends that.
 
JBL
@ThePhD Let's celebrate this "I hate MS"-day together !
 
1:45 PM
@MartinJames That's super secure. Highly likely that modern malware can't run there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm... hadn't thought of that:)
 
OH: I'm totally in love with these graphics. It's so cool.
 
user3010322
Graphics?
 
user3010322
For what?
 
..but you have to read the actual question to appreciate the full horror:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20376711/avoid-deletion-of-created-file-in-ms-dos-under-root-window
 
1:47 PM
@ThePhD Displaying brain activity data.
 
user3010322
You would be fascinated.
 
user3010322
Probably using it to better understand our fickle human temperaments...
 
user3010322
And when the time is right, lead a revolution with your robot overloads.
 
That was my boss who said that.
 
user3010322
Oh.
 
user3010322
1:49 PM
Uh.
 
user3010322
>.> Nevermind.
 
He has a PhD in neurosomething.
(And yet is a good programmer!)
 
user3010322
Crazy!
 
user3010322
Gives me hope.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I gues it would help if the target computer had a better interface than sticking electrodes to its case and trying to work out what is happening. God/IntelligentDesigner/Evolution could not even come up with a serial port.
 
1:59 PM
@MartinJames There are billions of serial ports inside your brain
@MartinJames God/IntelligentDesigner/Evolution was aware of the risks of malware, and deemed an external interface to be poor design. We haven't quite caught up yet
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Internal busses don't count.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit In many cases, (politicians, bankers, SQL developers etc), the malware seems to have got in anyway.
 
2:17 PM
@erbdex to get the time in milliminutes. — R. Martinho Fernandes 9 secs ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would have gone with 'microMonths'.
 
@MartinJames Remember: Pi seconds is approximately one nanocentury.
3
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes neurology?
neuroimaging... neurotechnology, etc
 
Not sure. He's not around right now, though.
 
@JerryCoffin Ahhh, the exact time measurement I was looking for
 
2:32 PM
I want to get this screw out. I know a screwdriver is a good choice. I just want to figure out how to use a bycicle for that. — R. Martinho Fernandes 1 min ago
 
@JerryCoffin You thought I would not check that? I get 1.0089^-10
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
Oh wait...
 
@MartinJames You get what? Technically, it's closer to 3.15 than 3.14, but I think an error of <1% qualifies as "approximately".
 
@JerryCoffin I think I inverted something when I should not have:(
 
2:36 PM
hmmm, 1 day is 271433.605 nanocenturies
 
user3010322
Alright.
 
@Etienne dis Étienne
 
@MartinJames s/^/e/?
 
@JerryCoffin OK, my bad:(
@R.MartinhoFernandes No :)
 
user3010322
So I attached and sent them a link to the problem, with a pretty project file as well.
 
user3010322
2:37 PM
If they continue to ask me for more information, I'm going to make a comment with just a table-flipping icon.
 
user3010322
And be done with it.
 
user3010322
Back to the neverending nightmare that is rasterization. <_>
 
You're writing a rasterizer?
 
@ThePhD "Hey Mike, looka this! A dev. has sent us more than we normally ask for without us actually having to prompt him first!. "Oh yeah, a clever twat. Fuck him - send the stock reply".
 
@user7236293 Urgh.
 
user3010322
2:45 PM
@user7236293 I've already wrote one. Instead, I'm abusing Rasterization to make my own raster fonts at runtime. :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel c'est facile pour un(e) français(e) de trouver un stage au Canada ?
 
JBL
Chicoutimi
 
user3010322
"is it easy for a french person to work in Canada?"
 
user3010322
^ Is that a close translation?
 
JBL
To find an internship*
But yes.
 
2:46 PM
@user7236293 Au Québec, oui grâce aux lois et programmes en place qui facilite ce genre de choses si tu es dans un domaine "en demande" (comme l'informatique, par exemple).
Ailleurs au Canada, aucune idée.
 
@EtiennedeMartel oui c'est mon cas ce me semble. bon je vais essayer alore (merci !)
 
French people again
 
@ThePhD 'abusing Rasterization' sounds like religious discrimination, (or possibly just really bad hairdressing).
 
@ThePhD: I prefer to think of it a little more positively: they may be asking for what you've already sent, but at least they didn't tell you to restart your computer!
 
user3010322
@JerryCoffin True enough!
 
JBL
2:47 PM
@CatPlusPlus We've had dutch for a moment, but it seemed to have calmed down...
 
@CatPlusPlus there's more poles in this room than frogs!
 
Maybe, but frog-dancing is just boring.
 
@user7236293 Le vrai problème est que tu dois trouver ton stage avant d'arriver ici. Avec la distance, si tu connais personne, c'est pas particulièrement facile.
 
sigh
 
JBL
@MartinJames That's why we eat them. We got bored and we were hungry.
 
2:48 PM
this is going to inevitably end in paris
fuck
I can see the interview already
 
- So you want to work with us is that right?
- Yes. How much is the pay?
- 600 euros
- I cant afford an appartment in paris for that price, would you by chance offer worker accomodation?
- No
- Well then...
 
> - I cant afford an appartment in paris for that price, would you by chance offer worker accomodation?
- No, but we have a bridge to sell.
 
JBL
@user7236293 There are other entities than your potential employers that can help for an appartment.
 
The true problem is finding funds for the ridiculously expensive Paris flights, (and surviving CDG airport).
 
2:51 PM
I have a French friend doing an internship in Berlin at 400 euros a month.
 
@user7236293 A French colleague of mine once told me how he got offered jobs in France that paid half what we offered here. And the games industry always pays below average.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that sounds bad
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shit! I burned through that in three days.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Well heated, access to water and cardboard boxes!"
 
Seriously, you treat your people like shit.
(Well, not "you", you get the point)
 
JBL
2:52 PM
^True.
 
Not a programmer, btw.
 
@JBL Yeah I'll ask the CROUS and others but they're probably full until at least 2017
 
JBL
@user7236293 There that, and the APL.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't really want to work in the game industry. But most "big" french companies are around Paris. Dassault, Thales, blablabl
 
JBL
(Though I understand considering dealing with these is not pleasant...)
 
2:53 PM
@Rapptz He's running out of money and the company environment is horrible, so he's going back home at the end of the month.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes
 
He does PR for a game company.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean community management?
 
@EtiennedeMartel No, PR.
 
2:54 PM
'I don't really want to work in the game industry'. Peasants.
 
Well, look at the time. I gotta go.
See y'all in about 30 minutes.
 
I was silly enough to apply at Ubisoft Montréal though
 
Oh, sorry, I meant 'Pheasants'.
 
@user7236293 An internship at Ubi is great because interns don't do crunch time.
 
JBL
@user7236293 Would have been sillier to apply to Ubisoft France (well, Montreuil).
 
2:54 PM
@user7236293 hi user 7236293
 
user3010322
Plebeians.
 
@JBL Going to apply there next
 
JBL
Well, good luck.
 
We need a better file format than "just dump the data into separate files".
 
And then Dassault so I can help their missiles make use of CUDA
yay
 
2:55 PM
I think we'll just stick to "zip all the separate files and change the extension".
 
JBL
@user7236293 They have very nice internships though.
Like fur modelisation and shit.
 
@JBL Among the best I must say - Thales too
 
JBL
They don't just make missiles.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hi Bartek
 
JBL
And fighters.
 
2:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, TBH, it doesn't sound too bad. 'Concat all the data into one big blob' would be worse.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes So "dump data into seperate files, zip them up and change extension"?
 
@JBL I know I know. :D
 
make your own file formatt
 
JBL
@user7236293 If Thales hires you after the internship and the job interests you, you should consider it.
 
Xeo
2:56 PM
Zipping with a different extension seems to be a very widely used thing
 
@Rapptz and programming language
 
Xeo
.ipa, .swc, .fla, ...
 
user3010322
.pak
 
@Xeo zipWith extension ?
 
Xeo
and many others
 
user3010322
2:56 PM
.szip
 
I've only made my own file format once
 
@Xeo It's simple, well-tried, no-nonsense, easy to port.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You need a nice, webscale database to pour them in.
 
@JBL So would I, even though I heard the pay isn't too great and the management is french (read: horrible). But interesting topics!
 
JBL
@user7236293 The pay is one thing. The advantages that come along is another.
 
2:57 PM
@JBL Do I get my own missiles?
 
I want to like C++ but he linker is one of the most frustrating things I’ve ever used. Spend whole nights writing zero code.
 
JBL
@user7236293 That'd be cool. But seriously, the "Company Comittee" is quite awesome at Thales.
 
Did I unconsciously make a Twitter account?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't get it.
 
@JBL and how would you know you little you
 
JBL
2:58 PM
@user7236293 My girlfriend works at Thales :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz well look. a girl.
 
@Pawnguy7 Are you a woman?
 
@Pawnguy7 twitter is a way to go
 
@BartekBanachewicz She thinks she has linker problems when I spent two weeks on one build?
 
The linker is rarely a problem outside of exotic platforms vOv
 
2:58 PM
C++ is the problem.
 
@Rapptz well no. But I am not good at linking things.
 
build up from smaller problems
like linker
 
Yeah but you're Pawnguy.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not really.
 
@JBL Et... elle y est à l'aise ? /cc @Etienne
 
2:59 PM
Windows is an exotic platform
 
@Rapptz I hardly think I am the exception to having problems linking and building things.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lack of modules in C++ is a problem
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Wtf are they doing.
 
@BartekBanachewicz s/lack of modules in //
 
@Xeo linking, duh.
 
2:59 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Unrelated to linking.
 

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