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11:00 PM
@Drise try being able to remember harder.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's true, but you can do better with std::function and such.
 
Anyway, "feels X and Y" is clearly subjective, so I won't argue against it. Especially because it feels natural to me.
 
@MooingDuck Well done.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Except that std::function is something entirely different
 
@Xeo Not when you're comparing to C function declarators.
 
11:01 PM
That's supposed to be funny or something?
 
@Drise Damnn. Had it a bit late, I guessed Cicada wouldn't ever post jpegs, so I searched for png
 
@sehe Lol!
 
@user1515739 Impossible to tell with the code you are (not) showing... — sehe 29 mins ago
 
She's gonna come in here all raging because we disturbed her beauty sleep.
 
11:03 PM
interesting what people think you can derive from no information at all
 
And I'm probably going to take the brute of it since I plinked her.
 
she doesn't need those
@Drise you wish
 
speaking of std::function, today I had an episode with a buddy who couldn't handle that lambdas have no "touchable extremities", so I had to reinvent the wheel without std::function
 
no compilers support lambdas but not std::function.
 
@Drise No one plinked her.
 
11:05 PM
also, wtf is a touchable extremity of a lambda?
 
I laughed too when he said it.
 
6 mins ago, by Drise
Does anyone know how to find that gaggle krum image @cicada posted?
 
Oh.
@DeadMG WTF. WTF. WTF. What?
Where the fuck is that?
 
He meant that they cannot be expressed as classic functions, ret_type(params) and be given a name without using auto.
 
@DeadMG We need to mock said person.
 
11:06 PM
Ah, right above, by @Domagoj. Dammit robot, read.
 
@DomagojPandža ok, but y no std::function?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes robot->read();
 
Xeo
@DomagojPandža And... what's the fucking problem with that?
 
I helped! :D
 
@DeadMG He's one of those pricks who don't trust the standard library, so I'd had to convince him until I got tired and I told him to go and try fuck himself in the ass without it.
 
Xeo
11:07 PM
Also, function pointer conversion for non-capturing lambdas
 
@DomagojPandža lol
 
@DomagojPandža What is C++ without the STL? C-?
 
@Xeo It lacks touchable extremities. Duh.
 
Xeo
@Drise C++
:P
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, right, my bad
 
@Xeo C with a few bug fixes? like struct simple vs typedef struct simple?
 
11:09 PM
@Drise C with classes?
 
STL != standard library. Plx. And no, I don't accept redefines of STandard Library to STL
 
Xeo
@Drise I was being sarcastic on those that say "there is no STL"
 
@DomagojPandža pft don't care
 
@Xeo I missed that.
@MooingDuck So... C-? :p
 
Xeo
@Drise C-- already exists.
 
11:10 PM
@DomagojPandža I'll never understand that mentality: "I don't like the standard library. It's <whatever FUD I like the most>. So I end up #1 writing all my own versions of it which end up with the same FUD because it needs the same FUD to actually work the same; or #2 not write my own versions of it and end up with crappy, buggy, and UBy code that has the same FUD because it needs the same FUD to actually work the same."
 
Fud?
 
@Xeo Yup, a part of the Haskell compiler, but it's intermediate form.
 
I don't think #1 happens a lot, because if you're smart enough to realize it's better to write those abstractions you're probably smart enough to realize you should use the standard library.
@DomagojPandža I think the newest versions default to LLVM.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Precisely.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had a friend do #1, but I later realized he memcpy'd everything
 
11:11 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes True, true.
 
But the C-- and GCC backends are still there.
@Drise Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
Basically, lies.
It's a marketing strategy.
 
K.
 
One of my favorite "fuck offs" is asking a counter question. Why do you use C++?
Answer, standard as fuck - performance.
 
@DeadMG I was about to say. PHP wasn't designed.
 
@DomagojPandža I usually answer with "Power".
 
11:14 PM
And then closure: "So, guys who upkeep C++, do you think they'd let a bad library tag along as "standard"?
And usually, that's where they learn to deal with it.
 
@DomagojPandža iostreams and valarray
 
@MooingDuck Well, everything should be observed as a whole. :P
 
@MooingDuck How could iostreams be better?
 
@DomagojPandža "not yet been replaced"
 
@DeadMG You're not a schmuck.
 
11:15 PM
@Drise simpler design, more performant/fewer virtual calls
 
I hate people down-voting answers for no apparent reason..
stackoverflow.com/a/11532070/1090079 what the fuck is wrong with this post?
 

sbi's gripes with IOstreams

Nov 20 '11 at 22:25, 34 seconds total – 9 messages, 2 users, 0 stars

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@refp Solved.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck valarray has its uses
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, I'm not.
I don't view "Power" as "Randomly accessing pointers"
 
11:16 PM
@refp It's about CSS.
 
Time for The Shield. Hopefully, more gruesome stuff is going to show up.
 
but I do view it as, mostly, the extra abilities of templates.
 
@DeadMG Exactly, that's what I was saying.
 
and operator overloads
 
@JerryCoffin Zing.
 
11:17 PM
@JerryCoffin well, the content of the answer isn't worse just because the topic is a bit.. boring
 
@refp I can think of much more...pithy descriptions of CSS than just "boring."
 
shitty?
annoying?
fucked up?
 
segfault?
 
epic fail
 
masticated
 
11:20 PM
is it possible to see who downvoted an answer once you get a million rep?
 
NOPE.
 
@refp Only mods, AFAIK.
 
then I'm going to be a mod so I can track down the downvoters to ask them why they do what they do
 
@refp You could ask Jon Skeet a year or so from now
 
@TonyTheLion Reminds me of a lady (?) I knew when I was in high school whose idea of great fun was to go to a restaurant and say (in a stage whisper) something like: "Oh my god, look at that man sitting in the corner masticating."
 
11:23 PM
@JerryCoffin lol
 
@Prætorian just because you're a high-rep user doesn't mean that you qualify as a moderator though, but heck.. why not (maybe you were referring to the "a million rep" thingie, that he is going to have soon - very very true)
or nhaa..
it will take him another 3 years probably, his rep record is kinda consitent
 
@refp Yeah, I was referring to the million rep
 
@JerryCoffin "Oh my god, look at that man sitting in the corner masticating masturbating." FTFY :P
 
Thanks Seth. I use a newer compiler at home, and I had my code compiling on it, but when I try the version at my workplace it keeps breaking. The thing is, we release our products on RedHat Enterprise Linux 3 & 4 and this is the default compiler version on these ancient platforms. I tried you're code, but it's still breaking. Anyway, never mind. I think it has to do with a combination of the usage of the lexer, the sequencing operator and the use of semantic actions. I'll try tweaking the code until it compiles. — Haitham Gad 18 mins ago
Poor sod ^
 
@TonyTheLion Well, that's what people were intended to hear, of course.
 
11:25 PM
indeed :P
 
this->eat(LittleCaesarsHotNReady);
vomit eat(LCHR* pizza);
 
@TonyTheLion trudansed
 
I shouldn't have eaten the pizza.
 
@Drise oh noes. LCHR? Looks terribly windows.h
 
@sehe is that English?
 
Xeo
11:26 PM
@sehe lol
 
@TonyTheLion Absocrudely
 
@sehe lol
 
@sehe Do you know what a hotNready is?
Don't say your mom.
 
@Drise Also, C++ allows you to just:
 
Best $5 pizza ever
 
11:28 PM
   error<digestive_system> up("pizza");
   throw up;
 
@Prætorian Agreed!!
 
that joke isn't funny
 
@Drise Yeah, I google such things within the second
 
@Prætorian It might be, if you don't eat the whole thing at once.
 
@Drise Man, you must've been hungry
 
11:29 PM
@Prætorian I was, but now I just want to deposit it in the toilet via my mouth.
 
Thanks for that image :P
 
You're welcome :P
 
@Prætorian Alexander Pope had a good phrase to describe that.
 
@TonyTheLion Anyways, just figured out it anagrams to end as turd. Seems fitting
@JerryCoffin Lemme remind you he has been buried for some time now
 
@sehe Yup -- still some of the best quotes (epigrams?) of anybody ever. Shakespeare was a rank amateur by comparison.
 
11:33 PM
@JerryCoffin What is it?
 
@Prætorian "Damning with faint praise"
 
hello
 
@JohnSmith short time no seen :)
 
11:35 PM
yepp
 
ohhh girls
 
@JerryCoffin That would be a good fit, but I was being sincere. It is good pizza for the price
 
Whatever that entails
 
@Prætorian It's barely a good pizza for the price. FTFY
 
Should the ministry of shame be linked to in the "Code of Conduct"?
 
11:37 PM
@JerryCoffin Anyway, how's the fire these days? Haven't heard of it in the news, so I'm assuming they have it under control now?
 
It irks me that NetBeans gives me no progress-thing to tell if it's locked up or not when compiling.
 
@Prætorian Yup -- 100% contained, virtually no smoke showing up, now just have to deal with flash floods for the next ~5-10 years.
 
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A: "What happened to my SFINAE" redux: conditional template class members?

R. Martinho FernandesThe way I see it you don't want SFINAE here. SFINAE is useful to pick between different templated overloads. Basically, you use it to help the compiler can't pick between template <typename Pointer> void f(Pointer); and template <typename NotPointer> void f(NotPointer);. That's not ...

 
@Prætorian Now that is reckless driving!
 
11:41 PM
Dammit, I took the time to write this answer and it turned out to be a silly mistake, and a misrepresentative SSCCE. Oh, and I might be repwhoring it now.
 
@sehe It does say that some mechanical failure caused her to lose control, so not her fault totally
 
Ow. Bear with me. Humor requires you to let go of reality a little sometimes
 
@sehe Reckless, but not wreckless?
 
I pondered the pun but prompty punted - it was preposterous
 
Unlike alliteration, evidently
 
11:47 PM
like littering :)
Oh, I see. Carry on then :) — R. Martinho Fernandes 8 mins ago
^ Curry on FTFY (@RMartinhoFernandes)
 
Hey, it's an s.
 
I hate how one has to type the full names du moment a user steps outside the room
 
I'm not outside.
Also, now you need to type the dot, btw.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah I forgot the . after the honorary R
 
That's what they changed yesterday.
 
11:49 PM
Ah. Makes sense. Whenever in doubt, assume sanity wasn't lost.
The universe just tilted ever-so slightly to the left
 
Xeo
@sehe And it's not instantly, you have a few minutes
 
Actually, I don't because my famous Ctrl-Alt-End, S-A-SysRq-{S,U,R,O} combo is going to quickly kill the life out of this machine
Night all
 
SysRq? WTF uses that key.
Also, hmm, cake.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I do, it's the same key as PrntScr
 
Okay, beer time.
 
11:56 PM
@sehe G'night.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Isn't that all day for you?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
I only drink at night.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I only drink on days whose names end in "day".
 
@sehe Oh, trust me, you'll know the moment SAN is lost.
 
The beer I'm drinking is quite strong. And I got 750 mL of it. This is going to be a long night.
 
11:59 PM
@JerryCoffin So you don't drink abroad?
 

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