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5:00 PM
it means her husband is in norway and has obtained asylum here
 
Safe printf is better for formatting, but streams are fine for simply streaming.
 
@CheersandhthAlf Ah. Thanks.
 
@stdOrgnlDave the interface is lousy, and the details of the concepts are reflected in that interface.
@CheersandhthAlf I feel like there's more information. It sounds like she's being thrown out of Norway because she wasn't supposed to be there, and was simply caught because she filed the application from inside Norway.
 
I just discovered Tilden's Laws of Robotics. Much better than Asimov's ass-backwards ones.
 
@CheersandhthAlf I can't find anything on google news to find more details
 
Als
5:03 PM
long time fellas
 
Oh, hey, VS just froze in my face. Agayn.
This is getting annoying.
 
@Als Howdy.
@EtiennedeMartel Normal day, heh?
 
Yep.
Actually it's the first time today.
So I'd say it's a slow day.
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes doing kinda okay, long time since here, how are y'all doing?
 
Something is still leaking in my Chrome.
 
5:05 PM
But it could be worse: sometimes something fucks up in the rendering and black rectangles appear over wherever I put my mouse cursor.
 
I've replaced Stylish, so it's something else. dammit.
I've disabled Lazarus.
We'll see.
This is really, really annoying.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Woah, it's been a while since I touched VS, but that's totally not my experience.
@CatPlusPlus Is there a plugin whose sole purpose is leaking?
I should write that.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, well, VS2010 uses WPF, so it's hardware rendered. There's proably an issue with my GPU driver or something.
 
Leakme for Chrome.
 
@Als Same old shit. Everyone rants about everything, and Tony's sexdar seems to be losing its accuracy.
 
Als
5:10 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes oh I miss the good old days eh
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Sexdar? Is that like cheddar, but with sex?
 
Als
@EtiennedeMartel like radar for sex
 
Hi
 
Als
@KerrekSB hello
 
5:11 PM
So... some PC hardware arrived today, and now I feel stupid.
Which way round do I mount the PSU?
 
Als
3 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@Als Same old shit. Everyone rants about everything, and Tony's sexdar seems to be losing its accuracy.
 
It's a "Cooler Master 600W", with a massive fan at the bottom of the PSU
 
Als
lulz
 
@EtiennedeMartel Like a gaydar, but for sex.
 
And the case also has a grill at the bottom, so I can mount it either way
 
5:13 PM
> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think, "I know, I'll use mutexes." Now they have
 
What is a PSU.
 
Power Supply Unit.
 
@Cicada Power Supply Unit
 
Pentral Srocessing Unit?
Hm
 
Als
I have never seen a rush to answer a question in this room....ever before today!
lol
sup pup @DeadMG
 
Als
@RMartinhoFernandes damn..you the bookeeper :P
 
So... fan pointing into or out of the case?
The big mysteries of life...
 
Leave the case open!
 
@KerrekSB Out of course
The air flow must come from within
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Haha, worst-case!
 
5:19 PM
Finally found some free wifi!!!
 
@KerrekSB One going in, one going out
 
@KerrekSB Use liquid helium cooling.
 
@Mysticial Howdy. I see you changed your avatar.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Yeah, been using the old one for some 3+ years over several forums... got bored of it.
 
5:21 PM
@Cicada Hm, OK.
 
Lol people in RPS comments getting all defensive about Diablo 3.
 
@Mysticial the previous one was more mystical.
 
There's an extra "i" there.
 
"But it's a good game! I can't play it, but that doesn't mean it's not good!"
 
@RadekdaknokSlupik Very true...
 
5:22 PM
Diablo 3 is a fucking fiasco .. not because of the quality of the game obviously but it's inexcusable anyway.
 
@KerrekSB The "main" cooler (on the rear) takes the air out. The others (front / sides) push it in
@ScarletAmaranth I hate the internet-connection-required-to-play aspect. I'm not gonna buy it.
 
Actually, it depends on the case @Cicada
 
@ScarletAmaranth Why? (Honest question, I have no idea about the game and I'm curious)
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, there has been a long list of issues about the D3 team
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Because people get lag in their single player games because of blizz servers. Not to mention unable to log in to multiplayer.
 
5:24 PM
@Cicada I see. Yes, there's another big cooler in the case
 
@RMartinhoFernandes a year behind schedule, way overbudget, had to drop many features after announcing them, Battle.Net was not prepared for the number of logins the first few days, etc
 
Oh. Sounds like failure.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Online only, and can't keep friends out of games.
 
They screwed up big time, defending it is objectively stupid.
 
@ScarletAmaranth How exactly? No net = no game
 
5:24 PM
I've had no problems logging in after the first two days though.
 
Each case can have a different airflow.
 
And fluidity depends on your lag since connection is not just DRM. All game-objects are server-side. Seriously, who idea was that?
 
@MooingDuck Wait, if I'm a friend, I can "invade" any game you're playing?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Oh I see. Well um, that's the only layout I've seen so far.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes yes, if you're on my friends list, then you can jump in any D3 game I'm playing as long as it's not full.
 
5:27 PM
@MooingDuck You play on US servers, right ?
 
@ScarletAmaranth usually
 
Argh, answering TMP questions on SO is so painful. I wish I could just #include <mystuff> at the start of my examples.
 
@CatPlusPlus I'd forgotten today was wednesday. off to watch ZP
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Why not?
 
5:31 PM
@CatPlusPlus I like my answers self-contained.
 
maybe google translate can translate it?
 
Google translate used to be one of my toys. Or bing.
 
@CheersandhthAlf so she is an illegal immegrant
 
I would go to an asian website (preferably chinese).
Translate it. Read. Laugh.
The translations can get very hilarious at times
 
@MooingDuck the point is, she would not have been illegal if she had applied from Italy and then traveled to Norway. she's being thrown out just so she can do that. then she can come back.
 
5:39 PM
> Go is not object-oriented. This, in my opinion, is a massive plus for the language. I can hear the die-hards screaming already about encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism. It turns out that these things are not as important as we once thought. I’ve spent a decade working closely with RDF and structured data in general and I came to the conclusion several years ago that OO was simply the wrong paradigm for the real world.
> In the real world, things are fuzzy and they spread across multiple conceptual boxes all at once. Is it a circle or an ellipse? Is she an employee or a homeworker? Classifying things into strict type hierarchies, although seductive, is never going to work. In RDF we’re more than happy for a thing to have multiple types (a person, a woman, an employee, a researcher, an adult) with varying properties (name, age, gender, workplace, height) that may or may not apply to any or all of the types.
 
@ScarletAmaranth I recall from a thread on the D3 forum that D2's launch was also less than stellar.
 
the same problem surfaced earlier with the israeli guy who revealed israel's nuclear capability
 
ergh, july 3rd cannot come soon enough. I needs me some more charlie strauss.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I used to play D2 but not from the very beginning so I can't confirm.
 
Apparently I'm not missing anything by not playing Diablo 3. Good.
 
5:40 PM
what diablo legacy?
diablo was a mildly inventive fun genre tromp. diablio 2 blew.
 
The legacy that was present in Diablo 1? :)
 
I think people have over-hyped the diablo legacy, added it to the blizzard WoW/Starcraft (notice I leave the 2 off that) magic aura, and expected the third coming of jesus from diablo 3, not realizing that the formula simply doesn't make that great of a game unless that game is diablo 1
 
@CheersandhthAlf The article you linked makes no connection between her being thrown out of the country and the application. It does say "In a few days, she must leave Norway because she does not have a residence permit." The application is how she got caught, it is not the crime she's being deported for.
@EtiennedeMartel Like being unable to play by yourself for the first two hours because the servers were down?
 
@MooingDuck you can trust me to have explained it correctly to you
 
5:43 PM
what blizzard really needs to do is make a diablio 1 expansion pack that updates it to modern day gameplay and graphics and adds a bit to it, and then we can all be happy
 
Diablo 1 expansion pack. Seriously.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Incorrect, Diablo genre is highly reward-driven and very compelling for certain human beings :)
 
@MooingDuck I never play by myself. But maybe that's because I don't see D3 as a single player game.
Actually, I also did not see D2 as a single player game.
Same thing for both SC and SC2.
 
@ScarletAmaranth go play Civilization
 
Come to to think of it, I always played Blizzard game for Battle.Net.
 
5:45 PM
@stdOrgnlDave The rare loot drops make diablo what it is.
 
@ScarletAmaranth go play WoW
 
> Obviously std::string("...") produces far more code, and runs much slower than the "C-variant"
 
@stdOrgnlDave It's not the same at all.
 
So, when they announced it was going to be online only, I thought "oh, great, one less click in the menu before I play"
 
@ScarletAmaranth go play mass effect 3 youtube.com/watch?v=wOua8txSPkk
 
5:46 PM
@stdOrgnlDave What was wrong with SC2?
@stdOrgnlDave ME2 > ME3.
 
I have classes: EthernetProtocol, EthernetSession, IPv4Protocol and IPv4Session. However, I could create namespaces Ethernet and IPv4 and define the classes Protocol and Session inside each of them. Which would you prefer?
 
@EtiennedeMartel watch the video and still tell me ME2 > ME3
 
@StackedCrooked I'd rather have the different classnames I guess, but I don't have any good reasons why
 
@StackedCrooked Boost.Asio uses namespaces.
 
@StackedCrooked namespaces, so that where it's obvious, I don't have to type it all out. Also I can use using
 
5:47 PM
@stdOrgnlDave I already said that, but I play ME for the story. Playing as a vanguard absolutely does not change the fact that ME2's story was superior to ME3's
 
@StackedCrooked I avoid namespaces whenever possible ... (imho)
 
@RMartinhoFernandes I vaguely remember that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I agree.
Also ME3 ending was a joke :)
 
A joke? They have very bad taste for humour at Bioware.
 
The problem is that I end up having many classes with the same name: Ethernet::Protocol, IPv4::Protocol, IPv6::Protocol, TCP::Protocol.. I fear that this may get confusing and lead to ambiguities...
 
5:50 PM
I'd go for the class names
Besides, I can't wait to read something like new IPv4Protocol()
 
@ScarletAmaranth "Doing the midi-chlorians" is not my idea of a joke.
 
@ScarletAmaranth There's a huge amount of crazy fan theories that try to hand wave away the bad writing by claiming that ME3's ending was a clever mindfuck that they're going to reveal in upcoming DLC.
Like that whole "Sheppard was indoctrinated" thing.
 
Yeah i read some, i say bollocks.
 
Or, "it was a dream" (which is the single most bullshitty trope ever made)
 
5:51 PM
It was a poor ending for such trilogy.
 
Not epic enough.
 
Yeah, i had my expectations high because that's the bar they set in ME1 already.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oooh, sounds funny. Can I haz links?
 
5:52 PM
@stdOrgnlDave Apropos Diablo 1 expansion, I never particularly liked Hellfire. It was buggy as, well, hell.
 
> What if the game itself is... Fuck it, I'm gonna go wack off to Rachel Starr.
 
OK. each person: reason for hate of ME3's ending
 
lol
@stdOrgnlDave Can I get away by stating only one? They "did the midi-chlorians".
(I need to find the actual name of that trope. I'm sure it is somewhere on the wiki)
 
@stdOrgnlDave The most disappointing ending to a computer game is clearly the ending of Monkey Island 2.
 
@stdOrgnlDave Because I busted my ass to save the whole galaxy (I decided to go for the full paragon route because I like being a hero), and in the end I still have the same crappy three bittersweet choices.
 
5:55 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes they did the midi-chlorians?
 
It's like they wanted to piss in my breakfast cereals.
 
Also the fact that your morality didn't matter at the end was just ballz.
 
And they made sure that, no matter how large my anti-piss force field was, it was still going to go through.
And ruin my breakfast.
 
@EtiennedeMartel they never said that you could affect Shepard's fate. only the gameplay. and your decisions do, a lot. I played a worst-case save from ME2 - wrex dead, cure files destroyed, nobody survived except morinth. the squad member choice was horrific, lots of people died 'cuz I didn't have help saving them, etc.
 
Meh, they blew it, oh well.
 
5:56 PM
@stdOrgnlDave I don't mean Sheppard. I knew the bastard was going to die.
 
@EtiennedeMartel also your moraility mattered if you didn't bring enough "military might"; the game would choose your renegade/paragon ending for you. which itself is debatable. but it did matter :-P
 
The problem is the rest of the galaxy. No matter what you do, everybody's fucked.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There's a fourth choice! Die at the end of ME2 :P
 
I would have been happier had the game ended with ME2.
 
Hahaha, the Noctua CPU fan is easily the most ridiculous piece of computer hardware I have ever seen. It's much more like a motorcycle than a fan.
 
5:57 PM
@EtiennedeMartel being in control of the reapers means you can rebuild the mass relays. making everything techno-organic is a pretty good deal too.
 
The mass relays are destroyed, so you got all this huge fleet of vessels stuck in the Sol system.
 
@KerrekSB ^^ you got your parts already?
 
@EtiennedeMartel And the galaxy is effectively gone.
 
And many of those aliens can't even eat food made on Earth (Quarians and Turians)
 
It's back to isolated islands in space.
 
5:58 PM
The only good thing was Joker and EDI, i was happy for them!!!! ^^
 
So they're all going to fucking starve right in our faces.
 
@EtiennedeMartel if you are in control of the reapers, you have enormnous starships for those guys to FTL home on while they rebuild the relays. if you make them techno-organic they can eat the same as everyone else
 
That's quite the happy ending, eh?
@stdOrgnlDave I don't know if you got the same ending as me, but if you control them, they just fucking leave.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah they stop destroying earth. the ending stops short of what happens after that - if they stick around and help out. I imagine a goody-two-shoes cmdr. shephard would make them help out.
 

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