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12:00 AM
@Hoxieboy: Actually that might be NTFS, not Windows
 
@Insilico better to practice it the universal way then? ;)
(as in, not the lazy way :D)
 
@Insilico No it's windows. NTFS on linux requires exact case match, IIRC
 
@sehe Ok, I'll update my post.
 
@sehe: I stand corrected.
 
@StackedCrooked +1-ed your question now
 
12:03 AM
plantains, hmmm, those look delicious
 
@Hoxieboy: You have to cook them first
They taste nasty raw
 
@Insilico dies of indigestion
 
I don't think they're poisonous
 
better? lol
 
:-)
 
12:06 AM
I could imagine the news cast saying a young man died of a European banana
XD
actually, they came from australia and india O.o
I don't understand D: I took the battery pack out and the robot STILL comes on complaining of low battery
god its alive
 
lol
residual charge
 
XD its haunting!
here, maybe this will help... disconnects speaker from cpu NOW try complaining
have you guys heard about the man who built a computer from scratch at his house?
he even has a website and telnet server running off of it
 
"From Scratch"?
As in "I bought parts from Fry's Electronics" or "I built it out of LEGO bricks"?
 
@Insilico yeah that interests me too. The 'Raspberry Pi' comes to mind. Not exactly rocket science
 
Because if it was just "I bought parts from Fry's Electronics and installed Apache on it" then it's not that impressive
If it was "I reimplemented the entire TCP/IP/HTTP stack on an ARM/PIC/whatever" then sure
 
12:19 AM
no lol
lemme check if its bookmarked
 
The Raspberry Pi is a single-board computer developed in the UK by the Raspberry Pi Foundation. The foundation plans to release two versions, priced at USD $25 and $35 (GBP ~£16 and ~£22). The $35 model will be shipping first. The Raspberry Pi is intended to stimulate the teaching of basic computer science in schools. The design is based around a Broadcom BCM2835 SoC, which includes an ARM1176JZF-S 700 MHz processor, VideoCore IV GPU, and 128 or 256 Megabytes of RAM. The design does not include a built-in hard disk or solid-state drive, instead relying on an SD card for booting...
 
this thing the guy made didn't even use a board I don't think
magic-1
thats the name
yeah
there is another site though that his computer is actually running
 
Ah okay
That's pretty old news actually
 
I severely like it's User Interface, though:
 
:D
 
12:26 AM
Also, I maintain that having minix running with nothing then off the shelf TTL chips is indeed an amazing feat
 
kinda reminds me of a commodore, without the keys XD
 
How much power does the thing consume?
 
@sehe agreed, I wish I knew more about that kind of stuff
 
TTLs are rather power hungry beasts
 
@sehe it'd be an amazing feat if it was running with off-the-shelf potato chips
 
12:27 AM
@jalf meh. Everyone nows potato chips work best when ingested
 
@jalf simple, link a few people's brains together and include a stomach for processing the chips ;)
 
Now if you implemented a power supply that mimics glycolysis I would be certainly impressed (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycolysis) :-P
 
@StackedCrooked nothing interesting yet on your Q?
 
@Insilico I think sticking with water is a better solution :)
(water as in hydrogen and oxygen :D)
 
@Hoxieboy: Actually water makes for a terrible fuel
Seeing that it's a waste product from our own biological processes
 
12:32 AM
water is pre-oxygenated, how are you going to use it in a chemical reaction to produce energy?
 
@Insilico not when separated into oxygen and hydrogen like I said before :D
 
Well, that requires a net loss of energy in the first place
 
@Hoxieboy That's not water, then.
 
@DeadMG "(water as in hydrogen and oxygen :D)"
 
Water != Hydrogen + Oxygen
Salt != Sodium + Chloride
 
12:33 AM
@Insilico true
 
@Hoxieboy The two are not the same at all.
 
Human != Carbon + Oxygen + Hydrogen + Phosphorus + Nitrogen + A bunch others
 
oh fuck here we go with the arguments, has anyone heard of hydrolysis?
 
@Hoxieboy: Have you heard that hydrolysis requires energy to work? :-)
 
yes
lol
hydrolysis is irrelevant
water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen, it is not equal to
 
user457812
12:35 AM
It is equal to peanuts.
 
I mean something could be powered by water in this sense: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam
 
water = hydrogen + oxygen, get science right? I'm talking about using hydrogen being burned as fuel for an engine, please, enough with the "I get my input cause I can and want to annoy people"
;)
 
@Hoxieboy No. water + energy = hydrogen + oxygen.
 
they just never learn do they
-.-
 
no, we just don't care
your statement was inaccurate and no amount of frustration will change that
 
12:37 AM
EXACTLY, he learned
 
You're talking to a bunch of programmers
"Pedantic" is our middle name :-)
 
@Insilico I try man, I try :s
 
Especially C++ programmers
 
Interesting how hard @Hoxieboy finds it to stay out of a discussion, despite apparently finding it a pain in the ass when others participate in it
 
C++ answers contains more references to the C++ standard than Java answers have references to the Java standard (whatever that Java standard is)
 
12:39 AM
that's not so bad
we had DzekTrek in here earlier arguing that Singletons were essential
 
@jalf No, I find it a pain in the ass when people try to prove a point that is completely irrelevant to what I am actually trying to say, I don't need input from other people saying I'm wrong about something I'm not even trying to prove :P
 
You suggested using water to fuel an engine, which is quite impossible.
 
Can anyone tell me why the line: using namespace std::tr1; would cause a compilation error with g++?
 
^ like so
 
Newsflash: this chat is not about what you need
 
12:41 AM
@sehe Just went to the shop for a while. Still looking into it.
 
If you say something that is incorrect, people will tell you that you're wrong
growing up may help deal with it
 
@soandos: That's a good question.
 
why don't you tell us what the error is, and then we might be able to help you?
 
@jalf please, understand that I don't care whether I'm right or wrong? I try to convey my points and have people translate them to the best of their abilities, which, I really really hope people have a lot of experience doing
 
It says it can't find it
 
12:43 AM
@soandos depends on the version of gcc, the compile flags, and where you put that line :)
 
g++ version 4.4
it is the third line on the file (just other using statements above it)
No flags there
 
@Hoxieboy You're absolutely free to talk about anything and nothing but by that same token everyone else also is, which includes responding to anything you say or don't say, whether you want it or not.
 
(just g++ filename)
 
@soandos: Well, have you checked that the std::tr1 namespace actually exists?
 
Are you trying to make an answer impossible? GCC does not say "it can't find it", it gives an error message. Show the error message. We don't need to knwo what line number you put it on, we need to see your code
 
12:44 AM
Check to see if this works:
 
I know it exists (it the technical review 1)
 
namespace abc
{
	namespace def
	{
		void foo() {}
	}
}

using namespace abc::def;

int main()
{
	foo();
}
 
@LucDanton thats fine, I'm just trying to keep the annoying bar low
 
But I no not know if it exists on my machine
1 min
 
we're not psychics, unless you show us exactly what you're doing, we can't tell you exactly what's wrong
 
12:45 AM
@Hoxieboy I don't think that's "helping."
 
if you tell us "GCC gives me an error", there's not much we can say other than "you need to fix the error in your code"
 
@LucDanton arguing about it further doesnt help either
 
@Hoxieboy You got that correct.
 
anyway, sleepytime for me
 
@jalf sorry? :s
@jalf good night too
 
12:46 AM
One way to solve the "contravariance problem in member return values of subtypes" is to parametrize the supertype with the class being declared, as in class subtype: supertype<subtype> where the supertype uses its template parameter in declaration of member functions and parameters. Does this coding pattern have a name?
 
Curiously Recurring Template Pattern? (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiously_recurring_template_pattern) It certainly looks like it
 
@Hoxieboy please understand that if you don't care whether what you're saying is correct, others are under no obligation to take what you say seriously
 
Thank you!
 
@sehe Found it: clang++ -stdlib=libc++ -o test main.cpp
 
Also for someone that doesn't care you display a lot of caring.
 
12:47 AM
@jalf "arguing about it further doesnt help either"
 
@StackedCrooked Great, Hinnant's answer did the trick then?
 
@Insilico yes yes, i was going mad not being able to remember that :)
 
And if you want to make a point, actually being right is a good start
 
@sehe Yep
 
@Irfy: How do you forget a name like "Curiously Recurring Template Pattern"? :-)
 
12:48 AM
3 hours ago, by Hoxieboy
rofl listening to my family argue and watching people argue on here, something tells me the world wouldn't be without arguing
This needs more stars ^
 
@sehe exactly :3
 
the world wouldn't be what?
 
@jalf Proving the point :)
3 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
You cannot write loosely coupled code using singletons.
You can write lousily coupled code with Singletons, though
 
the world would simply cease to exist without arguments, much like a command line program
 
@Insilico hahahahahah, now that made my day :P
 
12:49 AM
@Insilico Works fine
 
@Hoxieboy Mmmm. Many commands will just keep running longer without arguments (find, cat, grep, perl, whatnot)
 
@Insilico that curiously keeps recurring :o
 
And other commands will simply display a help screen
 
@Insilico Well, that was kind of the point Hoxie was making, not?
 
@Insilico, exact error message is: test1.cpp:1: error: âtr1â is not a namespace-name
for tr1
 
12:51 AM
@Insilico too bad the universe wouldn't ;)
 
@Hoxieboy It does. We just can't read it
 
@Hoxieboy: Yeah, that's why physicists are trying to reverse engineer it
 
@sehe well, maybe not a help screen, but it definitely might explode a bit more XD
@soandos that MIGHT be the text editor you saved your program with, I ran into that problem using notepad, and instead saved the file using code::blocks (or some other IDE) and it worked then
 
Does anyone know how to get an unchanging link to a subsection in the Lounge<C++> wiki?
That is, a link that doesn't change upon reordering of the contents
Right now, I have links like loungecpp.wikidot.com/faq#toc2
but that only leads to the second entry, whatever that happens to be
so if I add an entry at the top in the future, the link will be wrong
 
user457586
Can anyone tell me why this makefile doesn't work? pastebin.com/48S0PJxJ
 
12:56 AM
@BlueJ774 Because it doesn't wear a tie when applying?
@BlueJ774 Does it sit on the couch all day?
 
@Hoxieboy, I am using nano
 
@SethCarnegie: I don't think so
 
hi all!
please help to repair code:
 
@Insilico that's stupid
 
The source doesn't have any anchors other than "toc2"
Yeah it is stupid
 
12:56 AM
@Insilico can you add a custom anchor?
 
nano? that isnt the nano text editor for linux operating systems is it >.>
 
@SethCarnegie: I don't know. I don't have permission to edit the article
 
@sehe do you know about the nano text editor?
 
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@DeadMG Thank you. Very much.
@Hoxieboy Sadly, I do. What about it
 
12:59 AM
no problem
 
@sehe I was just wondering, I'm talking about the command line one on linux os's?
 

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