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7:00 PM
I'm gonna get some coffee, and then we can get down to business.
 
sbi
@thecoshman How the hell am I supposed to read that out of what you wrote??
@EtiennedeMartel by the time you have fed your addiction, business is already over.
 
@sbi huh?
 
sbi
@AnnaLear I am sorry for introducing logic into the argument (hey, it's the C++ room, after all!), but this simply does not make any sense.
 
@sbi I'd say: "more or less obsessed with porn / sex / reproduction of some sort too?", yes. At one point I ... looked closely (yeah, that's the right wording) at a particularly nice looking young lady -- and as I looked back, it certainly appeared he'd been doing pretty much the same.
 
sbi
@thecoshman "What am I supposed to think about that?" — "Shut it."
 
7:02 PM
@sbi You should be. How dare you introduce logic? Quick, fellow Loungers, repel the invader!
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin "Obsessed with reproduction of some sort" — now that's a nice PC term I hadn't heard about!
 
@sbi It does if you play the semantics game. No community moderator is paid or employed by SE. If a moderator gets hired, they give up their moderator slot. But they might still have a diamond (and retain the moderator access/privileges that come with it).
 
sbi
@DeadMG Stop yelping.
 
@sbi I'm not really up for playing this game
 
@sbi Direct (cut and paste) quote from the post to which I was replying.
 
7:03 PM
@DeadMG meh
 
@AnnaLear you said some moderators are employees, and that no moderators are employees. Your suggested semantics don't fix that.
 
sbi
@AnnaLear Again, I am terribly sorry, but if "X are (sometimes) Y", then it can't be that "Y are never X".
 
"employees are (sometimes) moderators" - some employees have moderator access to sites. "moderators are never employees" - people who moderate our sites are never employed by us.
Two different meanings of "moderators".
 
@AnnaLear switching definitions of a word mid-sentence is not part of communication.
 
It's more like employees moderate, but moderators are not employees
 
sbi
7:07 PM
@Cicada The problem with your proposal is that it would very likely shock you more than 90% of the rest of the room. (And, yeah, the remaining 10%, who'd go crazy flagging.)
 
@Collin or "employees have moderator privileges"
 
@MooingDuck Disagree. As part of light-hearted banter, it's acceptable.
 
@AnnaLear oh, was it light-hearted banter? I didn't look at the context. That's fine then.
 
sbi
@AnnaLear This is the C++ room, remember? Light-hearted banter is accepted here only if it doesn't go against logic.
 
7:08 PM
Pedantic arguments are sort of our thing
 
@sbi That sounds like a rule you just made up to excuse bringing up logic.
 
sbi
@LuchianGrigore Wouldn't a non-oneboxed link have done?
 
sbi
@AnnaLear Actually, it's not a rule anybody made up. Rather, seeing this as a fact is a necessary means to survive here.
 
nevermind
 
sbi
7:09 PM
@LuchianGrigore This got undeleted again.
 
@AnnaLear no, you make excuses.
 
I believe Alf wanted it undeleted.
And I semi-agreed with him.
 
sbi
@LuchianGrigore You talking to me? If so, then the answer is: By users voting to undelete.
 
7:10 PM
Not strongly though.
 
@sbi I don't understand where you got this notion that logic is required in here?
 
@sbi I was asking how to link, but @MooingDuck came to the rescue.
 
@LuchianGrigore same syntax as SO, surprised you didn't know.
 
sbi
@thecoshman I know you don't. That's why you so often have to resort to throwing tables around.
 
Last time I tried to throw a table, I hurt myself.
3
 
sbi
7:11 PM
@LuchianGrigore Read the newbie hints!
 
@sbi ever thought I might just be an angry pirate?
 
@thecoshman never actually crossed my mind
 
@Mysticial lift with you back
 
@Mysticial psshh wimp.
 
sbi
@AnnaLear Did you know that they have a very innocent name in German. At least I can't think of anything "meise" could refer to, least of all something pornographic.
@thecoshman Of course you are! Pirates always get angry when they are scolded for failing to follow the conversation's logic.
 
7:14 PM
@sbi Nope, didn't know that. My German is ... well, at the level where I can say that I don't speak German and that's about it.
 
@sbi not always. Put rum on the table, and it wouldn't even wobble
 
sbi
@thecoshman Did I ever mention you fail to grasp that this is about logic? — And not at all about alcohol!
 
@sbi I don't think so... frankly I don't care enough to check. Either way, I fail to see any relation.
 
glug glug glug
 
@DeadMG I want some
 
7:16 PM
I have done it! A shader system that's amazing and boss and all that other fun stuff!
 
IZ AL MEIN
 
oh well it was the reasoning not the conclusion that was proved false
 
@ThePhD lies
 
@DeadMG Exactly how I feel.
 
@DeadMG what is it any way?
 
sbi
7:17 PM
@thecoshman Please stop plinking me just to make my points against you!
 
baileys
 
really want to plink a monkey now
 
got it for my birfday
 
@DeadMG ooh, do want :D
disappears far too fast
yeah, double ooooh
 
@MooingDuck Also, hey there. I managed to not only answer a question but ask some on GameDev. I made 33 rep! I feel unstoppable, like I can earn rep forever!
 
7:19 PM
@ThePhD Yes, let the power flow through you
 
@ThePhD each site has separate rep. Your SO rep is still 31. :(
 
@MooingDuck Oh. Posh. :c I guess I have to answer some regular C++ questions now...
 
hi there @ThePhD
 
sbi
@thecoshman You are really pushing your luck there, boy.
 
@melak47 HEY THERE! I figured out a little while back all the shader trouble we've had. It's all encapsulated in This Question
..... =l I hate links.
 
7:21 PM
@sbi I'M BAAAAACK
 
[title](url)
 
Reopen this shitty question:
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Q: Printing the absolute value without using cmath

user1766270I am a beginner in C++ and.need help printing the absolute value of 2 inputted integers. How can I go about doing that without using cmath? Thanks! This is what I have so far : #include<iostream> #include<cstdlib> using namespace std; abs(double num1, double num2);...

 
@ThePhD I saw :)
 
@sbi come now, are you supposing that I would imply you bare a tail?
 
Who, how do you make those shiny question-looking links?
 
7:22 PM
Just paste it by itself.
 
@ThePhD By pasting the link, with nothing else before or after.
 
@ThePhD it's called one boxing, just post a link all on it's own. works for a few sites
 
sbi
@ThePhD Holy shit! 33 rep?! On a single day??!! That's... just 2000 more such days and you caught up with me! I am so scared now!
 
@sbi no need to be a dick
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Yawn.
 
7:23 PM
@sbi Yeah man, watch out. I'm gonna be all over it.
 
@thecoshman That's not being a dick...
 
@MooingDuck Eh, the guy is at least trying to fix up his question. Whenever I see people make the effort I think it is worth it to reopen their question.
 
It's only like, 5 years, right? I got this.
 
@Pubby wait, that's not std::abs... rereading...
 
@sbi Oh, you.
 
7:23 PM
@Mysticial seemed like it to me
 
sbi
Oh, the pirate's pissed with me now. :)
 
Everyone's a dick on monday
 
@sbi hardly :P
 
@sbi Better protect your booty.
 
@thecoshman We have bigger dicks than that. So you need to do better to be a real dick.
 
7:24 PM
Everyone's name Richard?
 
How can any one be pissed at monkeys? (he he he)
 
Ell
hmm. I need to write a hash diff for ruby :o
 
@ThePhD booty... do go on
 
Ell
anyone know how to pipe data into diff from command line?
 
7:26 PM
I'm finding myself getting carried away marking methods as const that probably ought not to be - I'm currently writing a C++ wrapper for a C library.
Imagine a class that represents a socket - should a disconnect() method be marked const? Technically it doesn't modify any member variables (the implementation is somewhere else) but... as I understand it, const methods indicate that the instance will be in the same state as it was before the method was invoked.
 
@Pubby voted for reopen
 
@thecoshman Oh, y'know. Strictly a platonic reference to treasure booty. You know, the stuff every pirate has. On his deck.
 
@MooingDuck Thanks
 
Ell
@GeorgeEdison that shouldn't be const IMHO
 
Or buried somewhere. That too.
 
7:26 PM
@Ell difficult to get two pipes into it i'd think
 
@Ell Okay.
 
@ThePhD no pirate is foolish enough to leave his booty upon the deck, apart form "Captain Upton Deck"
 
Is it bad that I tried to look up Captain Upton Deck and found nothing? :c
 
@thecoshman He's not being a dick. He's admitting that his rep is so low that if he hit the rep limit every day for the next year (and I didn't gain any more rep during that time) he still wouldn't have caught up with me! :-)
 
@ThePhD clearly "Private Shenanigans" got the better of you
 
7:32 PM
coffee is good. i wonder who thought of crushing and roasting coffee before mixing in heated water. first coffee with just whole green beans must have been awful!
 
@thecoshman Of course, if I hit the highest rep I've ever gotten one day, every day for the next year, and he didn't gain any more during that time, I'd still be a long ways behind Jon Skeet.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf that be true
 
maybe it's a bit like curry. 2500 years ago a committee formed with the purpose of inventing curry. so they tried all kinds of things
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Couldn't have been any worse than what they serve now. The one that always makes me wonder is the first person who ate cheese: "this milk spoiled months ago, but the smell's mostly gone now; I guess I'll eat it!"
 
The last thing I have to learn is File System Watches, and I think then I'll be able to do run-time switching of assets.
 
7:36 PM
@JerryCoffin I'm starting to think that rep cap is a gimmick implemented to make sure Jon Skeet stays on top.
 
.... Except... looking at how to use Windows's file system watching API is like looking at a way of justifying cutting off your own fingers for the fun of it. Maybe later...
 
sbi
@GeorgeEdison That is always a philosophical decision. Do you consider a socket object changing when it connects or disconnects? Is it changing when you send data? What about receiving? If I was you, I'd go for connect/disconnect changes the state, but sending doesn't. Note that streams do it differently. But then, streams are stupid.
 
@EtiennedeMartel IIRC Skeet would have over a million rep if there was no repcap
 
WTF? Reddit is down?
Where the fuck am I supposed to get my liberally biased bullshit?
 
@ThePhD You're probably looking at things like FindFirstChangeNotification and/or ReadDirectoryChangesW. You really want NTFS change journals (though they're not exactly trivial to work with either).
 
7:40 PM
@Chimera liberally biasied?
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin I am pretty sure that came out of hunger. Yogurt, cheese, quark etc. are probably all just outcome of famines. But also, in earlier and more primitive times people ate stuff in a state of decomposition that would outright kill us.
@EtiennedeMartel He's a Merkin, so even reddit seems liberal to him.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes, the articles and comments on redditt tend to be very liberal as opposed to conservative.
 
@sbi Oh, you think? I doubt it.
 
@sbi well it would have been nice to answer it, considering that the 6 answers are 6 incorrect answers. it's almost fucking unbelievable. an amazing amount of incompetence went into removing and closing that question to avoid wholesale embarrassment.
 
@Cicada I wouldn't mind with penises being posted here. Although not now, because I'm at work.
 
7:42 PM
@sbi Yeah, I've figured pretty much has to be the case with a fair number of things. Seafood too -- open a raw lobster (for example) and it's pretty much just nasty goo, even if it is superb after cooking.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf You know, you could have answered it.
 
@Cicada only one way to find out
 
@EtiennedeMartel you know, i could not. you're again lying. there never was time for me to answer it, and you know that
the @cat ensured that i wouldn't be able to answer it, by helping to delete it
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Oh, right, you were eating when the question was reopened.
 
@Cicada animated gif!
 
7:43 PM
right
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf It was closed, re-opened for like an hour, then closed and deleted again
 
1 message moved to bin
 
Gif patrol saves the day!
 
Link it is enough.
 
Are you seriously still on that question? wtf
 
sbi
7:44 PM
I was close to flagging that!
 
thanks! gif patrol
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Are you implying that @CatPlusPlus voted on delete to make sure you can't answer it?
 
@Cicada no, it was just mentioned
 
I just finished reading SBI's gripe on streams.
 
@Mysticial Linking removes all the annoyingness
 
sbi
7:44 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf They are all incorrect in your opinion. Given the vehemence you throw that around with as if you had gotten spoon-fed wisdom at the age of 6, I am pretty sure most of us here are happy that yours isn't mandatory.
 
@EtiennedeMartel can't say about his motives, but the effect
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I'm not saying you're wrong, but in what way are the answers incorrect?
 
Personally, I don't mind the gifs. (It doesn't actually make my screen flicker). But meh... rules are rules...
 
I didn't understand half of it but streams in C++ feel kind've unwieldy and dumb. I actually like C#'s stream style.
 
@sbi there is no opinion involved on my side. it is a purely technical thing. the opinion is on your side.
 
7:45 PM
@ThePhD The C++ standard library streams are unwieldy
 
@ThePhD C++ streams are known to be suck.
 
it is also trivial
hence embarrassing
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin Well, people do eat oysters, don't they? And what about raw eggs? I haven't looked at a raw lobster, but is it really worse than those?
 
4 hours ago, by kbok
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I think I understand but you're making such a fuss I'm not sure anymore. So in order for me to be sure, and for the others to know, because some actually don't, why don't you just write the correct answer here ?
@kbok Had a point, ya know. Seemed like you ignored it.
 
@ThePhD C# streams = awesomeness. C++ streams = a deep pile of shit
People, stop arguing about that question.
 
7:46 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf are you causing trouble again?
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh i haven't seen that until now. anyway, there was some discussion about it here. you can look back on it
 
Or I'll really post penises.
 
http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/35011/eve-online-player-loses-over-6000-with-one-ship-kill
Sucks to be this guy
 
@Cicada I think I'm gonna write a Stream call that's like C#'s streams. ... Did you change your name from DeadCicada to Cicada?
 
7:47 PM
@Cicada 2 guys got banned from a forum I go to for doing exactly that.
 
@ThePhD yes
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Anyway, we keep banging on the fact that you did not tell us how those answers are all wrong, and you still ignore it.
 
@Chimera why insinuate that i've caused trouble, unless you want to insinuate yourself with some others?
 
@Borgleader If I get banned, SO won't have lost much of its value you know.
 
@sbi I suppose which is worse is open to argument, but you're right: oysters can look pretty nasty too. With crabs and lobsters, I kinda figured somebody must have looked and thought anything with claws like that must be worth eating.
 
7:47 PM
@ThePhD My initial name is Cicada.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Nah man, I was just messing around with you. Take it easy.
 
@Cicada Ooohh. So you like, died for the Summer or something and now you're back to life? :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's the fourth lie from you today, as i count. i explained that three times, and linked back to the first explanation on request
 
@ThePhD It's complicated. Ask Xeo!
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Really? Does that mean I'll have to go and use that awful search feature? Fuck.
 
7:48 PM
@ThePhD She was Cicada for a long time. Then she was a little more original than the six people who all renamed themselves DeadMG one day...
 
@EtiennedeMartel yep
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf You're out of your mind again, Alf. I haven't even voiced any decision for either side in the debate about that question, so how could I have given an opinion on it? Please just stop. All you do is making people here plonking you. You certainly won't convince anybody with insulting them rather than presenting those facts you keep talking about. And now please leave me out of this. I've certainly had enough fruitless discussions with you.
 
@JerryCoffin I thought it was the time of year when Cicadas died.
 
4 hours ago, by Cat Plus Plus
You see, x.__add__ involves dynamic dispatch via dictionary attached to a runtime type, so you can't just suggest std::string::operator+ nuh uh
 
@ThePhD metamorphosis
 
7:50 PM
The string concat/append question that has wasted a combined IQ of ~1000 for half a day has gone again. Glad I dodged that!
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Well, fuck it. I don't care enough to even defend myself. You want to be right? Go ahead. You probably were right from the beginning. Does that make you feel any better? If it does, it says a lot more about you than it does say about me.
 
Where the hell has @Drise been?
 
@Chimera Only by coincidence (well, I suppose it coudl just be coincidence that she did it the same day that we had 7 DeadMG's, but I doubt it).
 
sbi
@JerryCoffin You forgot to emphasize little.
 
@sbi those question about "have you stopped beating your wife" can be fun, but you're taking it too far, sbi.
i mean, it gets boring
 
7:51 PM
Sep 16 at 21:50, by DeadCicada
@KonradRudolph Everytime I come back to this room since the end of summer, Xeo somehome mentions my death and how cicadas die at the end of summer. So I tried not to disappoint him.
 
i'm just playing with a host of people here who are unable to admit they did wrong
by wrongfully closing
 
@MooingDuck Ahhh.
 
and then wrongfully deleting
 
@sbi Under the circumstances, I was more tempted to emphasize that she was more original.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf What.
 
7:51 PM
of course such is defended by way of social arguments
 
@JerryCoffin sbi's always there to ridicule me in some way.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Why does it matter so much to you?
 
sbi
Oh fuck, I just cannot take this shit anymore. Please point to when you last admitted you were wrong in a heated discussion, Alf! Or just shut the fuck up and get out here.
10
 
I'll side with you, Alf.
 
sbi
@Cicada That's a blatant lie! I am not always here!
 
7:52 PM
@Cicada Nooooon. Ne fais pas ça.
 
I'd downstar this if I could.
 
@Cicada hardly
 
@sbi calm down, it's just the internet. Yeah, some people are irritating. Losing your temper doesn't make them less irritating. Have a beer. Go find a hug.
 
oh, fully restored I see
 
@sbi that was yesteday. deadmg proved me wrong in a little debate with hans passant. no matter that hans was also pretty wrong, i deleted my answer
 
7:53 PM
@MooingDuck How about two beers and two hugs?
 
Sometimes I wish I could send a hug over the internet.
 
@sbi ... not sure how I can imply you are monkey based of that
 
Just like, make the hug motion, freeze the emotions associated with that hug, wrap them up, serialize them, and then send them to a recipient.
 
@ThePhD The whole room needs one big hug today
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Why does that last part makes me feel like you're only begrudgingly admiting it?
 
sbi
7:54 PM
@MooingDuck Ah, you know, I tried, but sometimes the stupidity is just overwhelming.
 
USB Hugging.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes please :D
 
@sbi time to get off the internet I think
 
@Rapptz wow, that is so hard for me to read that url
 
7:55 PM
@EtiennedeMartel you're saying that because you're still playing a social game here. you don't really think so.
 
Xeo
0
Q: What is vector push_back?

Cristi DroPsI would like to know what means vector push_back , I wasn't able to find a good explanation. Thanks in advance

 
@sbi and it would be nice if you could please calm down a little
no need to get excited, u now
 
@Xeo I GOT THAT ONE ME ME
 
sbi
@Cicada The problem is, sweet little girl, that he won't get your playful joke, and next time someone calls him out, will link right to that funny little statement.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf What do you mean by "social game"?
 
7:55 PM
@sbi What joke.
 
@Rapptz I love this url. It's exactly like my coding style. :D
 
@Xeo Ha, your comment got deleted!
 
Xeo
Hahaha, they deleted my comment.
 
@EtiennedeMartel according to Wikipedia, few people are aware that they're doing it. but everybody's doing it. all the time.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf That does not answer my question.
 
7:56 PM
@sbi ¬_¬ do you really need to get all patronising. Your 'age' and gender mean nothing in this place.
 
Xeo
@Cicada That was fast.
 
He hasn't even brought it up though?
 
@EtiennedeMartel it's all i know about it. for more insight into your thought processes, i would need the earlier referred to ESP circuit.
 
Stop it or I'm going to a) post penises b) post animated gifs or c) all of the above.
 
@Cicada go for it!
 
7:57 PM
:)
 
Is penis a synonym for evil stuff in this room
 
Xeo
I don't like abusing NARQ for "no research effort" questions, but :/
 
you guys are so funny
 
@Cicada Animated vaginas also please.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz No, PHP is.
 
7:58 PM
I'm not sure I want to see a combination of (a) and (b)
 
I need more popcorn
 
sbi
@Chimera What's that for? The web is full of those.
 
@Chimera Google 'em yourself.
 
Where is gif patrol
 
@Chimera chat.stackoverflow.com/… Did those a week ago
 
7:59 PM
1 message moved to bin
@Pubby Sorry about that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I was merely suggesting a way for Cicada to really do a thorough job. Why are you so negative?
 

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