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3:00 PM
Good thing I'm a trained killer
 
and then theres DeadMG
 
sbi
@keithlayne Right, as an ex-G.I. you are sensitive. How stupid do you think we are?
 
@DeadMG cat with a soar throat
 
he's a separate internet by himself :P
 
@KerrekSB Damn, I was about to post something like your comment.
 
3:01 PM
@KerrekSB The identifiers are funny.
 
What does G.I. stand for anyway?
@CatPlusPlus Can you translate some?
 
it's a mystery
 
At least "slownik" is a complete miss, because it means "dictionary".
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Why "G.I.", where's that from?
 
1 min ago, by sbi
@keithlayne Right, as an ex-G.I. you are sensitive. How stupid do you think we are?
 
3:02 PM
american term
 
"krocz_po_pliku" is funny, but I can't translate the funnyness into English.
 
@KerrekSB It's a term for some kind of american soldier.
@CatPlusPlus What? Stop being selfish.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Have you been watching too much Mr Plinkett?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes general insurgent (tottaly not making it up)
 
Originally meant "government issue" but has been bastardized over the years
 
3:03 PM
huh... government issue joe....
 
@KerrekSB I have no idea who Mr Plinkett is.
 
@keithlayne you were an issue to the Government?
 
No offense to anyone, but the first meaning that came to mind was Giggling Idiot
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh OK, never mind.
 
what mystifies me is how the term "private soldier" survived until now
 
sbi
3:04 PM
> You setup a reference to refer to an object, declare it as referring to a temporary, wonder about the resulting downvotes, pester me about what it refers to, and now you are asking me whether I'm kidding? I'm not sure why I should take any of this serious. I certainly won't waste any further time on it. sbi
 
those guys lead the least private existence imaginable
 
class soldier {}; class army { private: soldier s; };
easy peasy
 
@sbi and that, ladies and gentlemen, is how it's done
 
@sbi He found you too?
 
Xeo
How did @RMartinhoFernandes do that?
 
3:05 PM
@sbi Bajeezes
 
sbi
@keithlayne I have no idea what you are trying to tell me.
 
@Xeo Right-to-Left Override.
 
I FEEL IGNORED IN THIS CONVERSATION
 
Xeo
@sbi I'm wondering, isn't the resulting promoted float actually a temporary?
 
sbi
Has anyone seen @Tony recently?
 
3:06 PM
@sbi Not for a good month or so.
 
lol, I'm here!!!
 
Xeo
@RMartinhoFernandes Right-To-Left-Optimistation?
 
He said something about taking some time off to work out personal issues?
 
Xeo
Oh, that makes more sense
 
3:07 PM
@DeadMG personal issues???
 
sbi
@Xeo OMG. I missed that. Flush.
 
I got the feeling it was something about sexual inadequacy
 
I wonder what those are???
 
@sbi I was more referring to the message than replying to you goes to read newbie hints for tenth time
 
3:07 PM
Lol.
 
sbi
@DeadMG Of course you have that feeling. We all noticed.
 
Xeo
Anyways, afk, watching my brother while my parents are MIA
 
lulz
MIA?
 
Xeo
@sbi Now you got some serious apologies to do. :P
 
@Xeo 0_0
 
sbi
3:08 PM
@keithlayne I fail to decrypt that, too.
 
he/she is watching his/her brother
 
we still haven't established some things :P
 
@sbi I've got just about enough of that guy
 
Xeo
@KerrekSB Read my reply to that message. There is indeed a temporary in that code.
Atleast that's how I understand promotion rules
@TonyTheLion Missing in action
 
3:10 PM
oh
 
"you haven't voted on questions in a while; blah blah blah"
That's because I already got the badge, thanks.
 
you mean you completed SO?
 
done badgewhoring
 
Xeo
That's not how it actually is, but my mother is out driving my niece home and going to work, while getting my father and going shopping before going to work
 
3:10 PM
I downvote most questions I vote to close. It's free and stops that pestering warning.
 
@Xeo True, but the temporary is an rvalue.
rvalueness refers to an expression, not a variable.
 
I wanna complete SO
then I can be done with it... and move on.
 
@TonyTheLion you can't move on
 
Xeo
@KerrekSB True enough, but crf refers to a temporary as an lvalue
 
3:12 PM
@thecoshman true, I"m on reddit too
 
Quick question: why doesn't using std::forward; work ???
 
Xeo
@Pubby It should, what error do you get?
 
@TonyTheLion upvote for being on... oh... can't do that here ¬_¬
 
@Pubby #include <utility>?
 
@Pubby Oh, it does.
 
Xeo
3:12 PM
Did you actually include <utility>?
 
Stop playing echo chamber for me!
 
error: ‘std::forward’ has not been declared
 
sbi
@Xeo Can't see your message.
 
I included <utility>
 
3:13 PM
hide ALL THE MESSAGES
 
@Xeo But the temporary isn't the lvalue. The reference is!
I.e., the expression cfr is
 
@TonyTheLion o_0
 
@Pubby What compiler?
 
@Xeo The temporary is the float that's constructed from i
 
@CatPlusPlus gcc 4.7
 
Xeo
3:14 PM
I know
The answer is still wrong, but not for the reasons @sbi thought :P
 
Show entire code.
 
@Xeo Indeed
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion "You can check out, but you can never leave..." (@Alf would know that.)
 
you know... I think I did more work before i started working...
 
@sbi I know that.
Come on, who doesn't know that?
 
3:15 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes the pope
 
Xeo
@KerrekSB Maybe you can leave a comment explaining that better than me? I really need to watch my brother now
 
@sbi you're dating yourself more by assuming no one knows that
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes You probably should rather ask who knows it.
 
Ooh, me, me, I know that, too!
 
@sbi You really think so? :(
 
3:15 PM
@Xeo I am sure he can hurt himself with out your supervision
 
sbi
@keithlayne As a personal rule, I always date females, never myself.
 
See! The Cat knows too!
He's 19.
 
@CatPlusPlus
#include <utility>
using std::forward;
int main() { }
 
@sbi it's "you should probably ask..." or "rather, you should ask..."
 
that's very old for a cat
 
3:16 PM
@sbi you sound pretty closed-minded
 
I've seen that the first time, stop *plink*ing me!
 
sbi
@keithlayne Well, if I'm fucking with myself, why would I need to date before?
 
@thecoshman on the internet, the's cats of many ages :P
 
@cat plink
 
I'm still not convinced it's productive to consider 'temporaries of non-class type'. I'm not sure the Standard acknowledges their existence.
 
3:17 PM
@sbi fap fap fap
 
sbi
@cat plink
 
@sbi did you just plink @cat ?
 
WTF is plink?
 
behave people, behave, please. What if the CIA were looking?
 
Damn, bad link.
 
sbi
3:17 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes How can you tell? I never know what his messages refer to.
 
@TonyTheLion plink
 
@TonyTheLion this
 
@sbi usually if I take myself out for a nice dinner I get something at the end of the night
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion plink
 
@rubenvb pfff, as long as it's only the CIA and not my mother :P
 
3:18 PM
@sbi Extensive semantic and contextual analysis.
 
Context inference.
 
the CIA don't care whether @sbi likes to date himself
 
@Xeo I would hate to engage in any sort of communication with that guy. It'd just be a waste of my mental energies.
 
sbi
@rubenvb Then we'd plink the @CIA, too!
 
@KerrekSB We call 'em sanity points around here.
 
3:18 PM
@DeadMG maybe they do ?
 
@KerrekSB who now?
 
sbi
@thecoshman You need to follow his reference.
 
@the self plink...?
 
Follow the grey arrows.
 
I don't get the plink thing? Am I supposed to feel different after I was "plink'd"??
 
3:19 PM
Lol.
 
too long a chain in to fast a scrolling chat
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yeah, that works, as we've found out about a year ago. Yawn.
 
I'm not entirely sure about C, but GCC accepts both versions.
 
@thecoshman hmm...
 
3:20 PM
oh I"m so dense
damnit
didn't know we'd made up a word for that :P
 
Blah, I figured out my problem. Forgot the stupid -std=c++11 somehow x_x
 
@sbi not the fact you can ignore my name. Turns out you can't plink your self :(
@TonyTheLion for the plink noise
its not like we had a big comity about it
 
my sound is turned off
 
@TonyTheLion lol
 
I'm on mute
 
3:21 PM
I made up a word for that, 5 minutes ago.
 
@Tony PLINK!!!
 
@sbi you're in rare form today. I guess that's the lack of sleep talking.
 
@Keith no, he's just missing the point
 
Xeo
Yay, I'm on my dumb phone now
 
3:22 PM
Not freehand.
-1
 
OMG, freehand circles.
 
@sbi oooh fancy
 
No, wait that's too perfect.
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus I'm not Aldus.
 
@sbi You cheater! You used the circle tool!
 
3:22 PM
Booo!
 
@thecoshman sbi rarely misses anything.
 
@Keith you haven't been around long enough then
 
sbi
@keithlayne I slept 7hrs last night. I didn't have that much sleep in three weeks.
Anyway, gotta get back to coding. :(
 
Coding is :)
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked But chatting is :D
 
3:24 PM
@StackedCrooked awe cute, you must still be in education... try coding for money
 
@thecoshman I've been doing that for 6 years.
 
sbi
@thecoshman He does.
 
Fuck money.
 
@sbi glad for you. last night sounded rough.
 
On second thought, please don't fuck money. It may end up in my hands.
 
3:25 PM
shh...
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Urgh.
@keithlayne Huh?
 
Working late + some train thingy.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes But you are Portugese! Your money is fucked up anyway.
 
thingy huh :P
 
@RMartinhoFernandes It was in worse places than that.
 
3:27 PM
@sbi Ow.
That hurt because it's true.
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Ah, that. Oh well. When you plan to come home from work at 1am, half an hour more doesn't make all that much of a difference.
 
@CatPlusPlus Shut up, I don't wanna know.
 
evil laugh
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes I seem to have a knack for hurting people tonight. I really should get back to work.
 
evil purr ftfy
 
3:28 PM
Also, please don't spell Portuguese like LaTeX. (hint: there's a u after g).
 
PoRtUgEsE?
 
@CatPlusPlus The babel package uses portuges.
 
Portugeese?
 
Totally fucked up.
 
Port-a-geese.
 
3:29 PM
prefer port-a-cabins my self when I need to go pee, but you can use a goose if you must
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh c'mon! I was writing the name of bloody furrin country in another bloody furrin language, and my dictionary didn't complain. That ought to be enough for you bloody furriner!
 
Damn you Firefox.
 
scum bag @sbi
 
sbi
Funny, now it complains when I write "Portugese", and wants to correct it to "Portuguese". Sheepish grin.
 
@sbi <I don't know a smiley for angry>
 
3:31 PM
I reiterate my previous statement ¬_¬
 
sbi
@thecoshman According to the robot, I'm a meat bag.
 
> An rvalue (so called, historically, because rvalues could appear on the right-hand side of an assignment expression) is an xvalue, a temporary object (12.2) or subobject thereof, or a value that is not associated with an object. [emphasis mine]
 
sbi
@RMartinhoFernandes So look it up! Aren't you a robot?
 
@Kerrek Wouldn't this put a final rest to the question of "temporary that is lvalue"?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes >:-[
 
3:32 PM
scum meat?
 
sbi
@thecoshman Lazybones!
 
@RMartinhoFernandes :@
 
Use imagination, dammit!
 
@sbi TL;DR
 
@CatPlusPlus I did!
 
sbi
3:33 PM
@thecoshman Is that a pig?
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus He is a robot, dammit!
 
(This could also represent a punk vampire.)
 
@sbi huh... throw back to MSN days... dosen't work so well on it's own
 
Xeo
Seriously, I don't check for 5 mins and you guys write like 500 lines...
 
sbi
3:34 PM
@Xeo Actually we wrote more. This chat only counts messages, not lines.
And did I mention I outta go back to work?
 
Blah
Blah
Blah
 
well played sir
 
@sbi I didn't notice.
 
you did...
 
You outta?
 
3:35 PM
He misspelled slang.
 
I know.
 
is that even possible 0_0
 
@RMartinhoFernandes Sorry, I lost the chain there... what's this in reference to? Also, I want to die.
 
@KerrekSB Exactly in reference to that!
The standard defines an rvalue as something or a temporary or something else.
Wouldn't this rule out lvalue temporaries?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes The new standard has a more finegrained taxonomy of expressions
@RMartinhoFernandes The terminology is just muddled
 
3:37 PM
Oh... That's a question from 2010.
Seriously.
That dude is sick.
 
so... what do you guys make of the current price of fish?
 
@KerrekSB Ok what about what the promotions say?
Doesn't it say something like "a somethingvalue of integer type can be promoted to an rvalue of float type"?
 
@RMartinhoFernandes The terminology is a bit muddled I think. The temporary expression is always an rvalue expression, but once that has been bound to const-ref, I'd say it's no longer a temporary --- now we have a named reference!
 
sbi
@thecoshman Fish? You should ask the @Cat.
 
@KerrekSB But the variable is not a temporary.
 
3:40 PM
Since temporaries are object and value category is a property of expressions I tend to ignore the question altogether. (And that's what the accepted answer went with.)
 
@sbi he would be my go to man for horse meat and ash
 
I hate fish. They try to kill you with their tiny, invisible bones even when they're dead.
 
I suppose "can I have temporaries without involving rvalues" is still a valid question though.
 
@RMartinhoFernandes The variable i was never the issue. The float(i) is.
 
sbi
@KerrekSB A floating eye. Interesting concept.
 
3:41 PM
groove shark is playing up (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
 
Stop throwing vtables around!
 
@LucDanton You can't really choose "not to have rvalues"... every expression has some flavour of value.
 
@KerrekSB Which flavour might not be 'rvalue' some of the time.
 
heyyy :)
 
did you not read what I said o_0
 
you're too young for that
 
@RMartinhoFernandes o_0
 
@LucDanton So you're saying there's a temporary expression whose flavour is not some variation of "r"?
 
> Genocidable
Lol Nethack.
 
@CatPlusPlus Almost everything is.
 
3:46 PM
@KerrekSB No.
 
> Fun Fact: If a pizza has radius Z and depth A, its volume can be defined as Pi*Z*Z*A
19
 
silly @cat
 
pi is overrated. People should switch to tau
 
My userscript has been installed over 100 times!
 
@rubenvb indeed
 
3:50 PM
You can't make pizza with tau.
 
@CatPlusPlus link plz
 
@CatPlusPlus piτza!
 
@CatPlusPlus Using the tau cannon from HL1 I'm sure you could.
 
@cat pics or it didn't happen
 
3:51 PM
> Last update Dec 4, 2011 — Installed 103 times.
 
@cat want to see it in action with out installing it
hang on... am I like the only person on the internet who uses an actual picture of them self as there avatar?
 
I didn't realize that you were actually a gay pirate clown
 
0
Q: Alternatives to array of chars

MartinI would like to know what standard container could I use as an alternative to char board[8][8] from a performance point of view. The board needs to be accessed frequently for both reading and writing. up to 1 million of new board might be constructed during the algorithm. Only three possible valu...

 
@keithlayne ¬_¬ thanks ¬_¬
@CatPlusPlus no thanks, i'll stick to up and down arrows to represent my up and down voting
 
3:55 PM
@cat I installed it but didn't know it was a no-go with chrome
 
It works with Chrome now.
 
@awoodland No, not 2D arrays again...
 
@RMartinhoFernandes No, not FAQs again...
That shouldn't make me laugh... but it did :(
 
3:57 PM
@TonyTheLion exactly
 
@cat lame, I just get boxes. it would be way cooler if it said "boat" and "poo" when I told google to "translate to english"
 
@keithlayne You need a font with the POO, PILE OF glyph.
 
Then you need a proper font.
It refers to Symbola directly, because Chrome is too stupid to do font fallback.
 
@CatPlusPlus then you sir fail
images FTW
 
I realize that, gentlemen, thank you.
 

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