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11:00 PM
Do you see the problem?
 
@Stacked This is exactly my fear.
 
@StackedCrooked That was before...not true anymore (usually) :(
 
It's a form of social injustice.
 
please bear with me. i hate the whip
 
@LewsTherin Usually? So you irregularly meet again?
 
11:01 PM
I'm 203 cm so I'm good, now I just need to get second anything but NULL.
 
@StackedCrooked uh
 
@LewsTherin I just don't really get what you mean with your previous message.
 
C++12, pair operator < ( 1.03*first < rhs.first )
 
@StackedCrooked nvm lol
@CaptainGiraffe C++12?
 
@LewsTherin Yes of course, we are on the fast track here =)
 
11:04 PM
C++12 looks prettier than C++11.
Perhaps we should have waited another year.
 
@StackedCrooked agreed.
@CaptainGiraffe xD
 
No we should have waited one month and one day, the c++ standard would be 2011-11-11 =/
 
Nah that would attract too many OCD people.
You know, people that are obsessed with putting things in alignment and stuff.
 
Yes, whitespace would never be so white :)
What is/was CodeSearch?
 
"Google, making the Internet a better place."
Briefly.
 
11:10 PM
Why did Johannes say they shut it down?
 
They are going to shut down in the beginning of 2012.
Which is very sad news.
 
Replaced by scholar or anything?
Do they just erase the stuff?
 
It won't be replaced with something else. They are referring to it as 'spring cleaning' or something.
 
That is sad news. Sometimes it seems like google has the entire Internet on a disc and they do what they damn well please with that disc.
 
I can understand that they remove Buzz, because it became obsolete when Google+ was introduced.
However Google Code Search is a not something that conflicts with another Google Service. It's a perfectly good thing on its own.
 
11:17 PM
I would agree with that.
Also I'm not doing facebook, not doing google+, I realize the futility of it all; but I don't want to be tracked by everyone everywhere. Crap Internet is now a cat and mouse game.
Every bloody site has a facebook like button. How did that happen?
 
With HTML I guess.
 
=) Allowing 3rd parties to integrate with your stuff seamlessly I suppose. Nobody is responsible anymore.
 
There's a lot of paranoia lately. People think that if you visit a page with a Facebook button they know you've been there. That's not possible.
You need to actually click the like button.
 
Why not?
No not at all, why do you say that?
Your browser will at the very least send a "HEAD" to facebook
 
Because if you visit a site like mylittlepony.com the the JavaScript on that site can only access the the cookies from mylittlepony.com.
 
11:26 PM
Yes, but they deliver elements from facebook
 
In order to identify your facebook id they would need access to the cookies on facebook.com.
 
I dont have a facebook ID, I'm still worried.
and no not at all.
 
If you don't believe me, do your research on Google. Only if you actually click the like button they can know you've been there.
Otherwise it would've been a much bigger scandal.
I don't say I like Facebook's practices.
But paranoia isn't very rational either.
 
No, I don't believe you. I already suggested this very experiment to a group of students of mine and they implemented a proof of concept, as well as showing that every "like button" shares this info.
 
i'm willing to believe you if you can show me the data.
 
11:30 PM
Sure, I just have to talk to them first. I just saw the presentation.
They did it on my ideas though so theres is nothing as a vulnerability being discovered.
just basic http
 
Hmm. I might have to retract my words.
Anyway. I
Time for another episode of Fairy Tail.
 
is the this pointer static in java?
that doesn't make sense i know..but apparently Java uses it to differentiate possible name class :S
MyClass.this.name if used in an Inner class
 
Quiz!
Some guy has these two template<typename T, typename U = T&> struct policy; template<typename T> struct policy<T, T&> { /* ... */ };
and he says that he expects if he always uses policy<X> for some type X so that it will always pass the default argument, that it will always use the specialization
can you prove him wrong, or is he right?
 
Unless there is a total specialization.
 
only those two
 
11:43 PM
What would policy<void> yield?
 
he assumes that the default argument is valid
 
I have no idea if reference collapsing applies. If it does, then the default argument is valid but the specialization may not be picked every time.
 
ohh
excellent, you proved him wrong
because for policy<int&>, T is int on the second position and int& on the first position, in the specialization
 
So then the specialization is never matched for reference types.
 
11:50 PM
Out of curiosity is there any reason not to just use a primary template? That's usually how you match anything...
 
what about template<typename T, typename U = T const> struct policy; template<typename T> struct policy<T, T const> { };
can you write a primary template + partial specialization that for any set of arguments will always use the partial specialization?
that was two quizzes
 
I'm thinking template<typename T, typename U = T> for the second one.
@JohannesSchaublitb Same problem manifests with e.g. int const.
 
how would the specialization look?
 
Which does make sense.
@JohannesSchaublitb <T, T>
 
policy<int, bool> would select the primary template
 
11:54 PM
Oh, any set.
 
Um would a possible answer be in a gray area and up to interpretation? Or is there a 100% guaranteed valid answer?
 
100%
comeau/clang/GCC xD
 
GCC seems to be OK with <T, typename identity<T>::type>.
Of course if identity is messed with then no, that won't match any set of arguments.
(Answer not complete. Let me fiddle.)
Uh are there constraints on the primary template?
E.g. must it be template<typename T, typename U = T const>?
 
err. What I mean is that it is just <T, T> just that it does not deduce in the second part
 

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