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10:09 AM
This is real question, but about roles not coding
 
if this is a real question, perhaps it shouldnt be in the sandbox ;)
 
I'm here since a week, people give me comment 'thank you' etc and same time voting down... How can I survive this????
I can't comment, there is no 'contact' to anybody... I won't start question about rules because is not about coding...
Why don't you put clear, simple, absolutely clear info for novices that they MUST upvote if they use and liked
I understand, that dummy or vicious people can dawnvote just for fun, I understand you try to not be hostile, but .. What will happen when accidentally I lose all my rep points? No one will read my answers? They will just downwote without reading? Then what? Negative reputation???? Will I be expelled??? If so tell me now, I don't want to experience this.
Should I quit right now?
 
10:26 AM
@blackblue I assume you mean on main site
 
I don't know, I don't know who downvotes me, shit happens
 
I am actually not sure what resources SO/SE have for newcomers to get to know how the site works
not intentionally
also, I rarely visit the main site
I am just a regular in chat
currently working on my chatbot Wietbot
@Wietbot right ?
oh, I think I finally achieved what I wanted to do...
 
some problems? not sending
 
debugging random crashes :D
anyway, if you are receiving a lot of downvotes, you might want to look for how to ask questions
 
I didn't ask
 
10:31 AM
people often read questions and when they see it is vague, lacking a lot of information, unrelated to what the site is for, etc, then they just downvote and with enough downvotes, a mod comes by... iirc
@blackblue well... how did you receive downvotes then?
 
all this are answers, and yes several aren't brilliant, but majority is sometimes better then others
 
oh, ofcourse
 
I will ask when I will be accommodated, prepared
 
keep in mind, a few downvotes are not really interesting imho
 
If I don't starve before this
 
10:35 AM
when it gets below -10, there might be something you can do
but 1 or 2 downvotes might just be people having a bad day
I suppose the question you should ask yourself is "why do I answer questions?"
 
Of course not for hurt myself
 
do you do it to help people out?
do you do it to get high reputation to have stuff unlocked?
do you do it to get a name in Stack Overflow?
do you do it to explore different technologies?
if you did it to hurt yourself, I can think of a few ways to do that much more efficiently :D
 
main reason - I read since years, wanted check if there is something more, something useful or what
second - improve my English skills
 
ohai
 
third - plenty stupid little problem - if I needed many days to guess what is about - why other must hurt the same
 
10:43 AM
something useful for... reading?
 
now you understand why I wait (grow) with first question
No, useful for coding, if there are accounts something more must be for registered users
 
ah, so you read on Stack Overflow for years and you wanted to find out if there are bonusses for registered users?
 
And, finally I wanted pay the bill - a lot of my coding problems I solve with SO
No, it was a joke?
 
no, I just have difficulties understanding what you mean
 
bonus - what you mean? I'm registered without any personal info, I don't look for a fame or what
English skills with writing, silly
 
10:50 AM
you will get better at it though
I think English is something you learn by using it, so you are on the right track there
 
Using - watching tv... there is no one else talking English in here
With writing is a pain, i still write 'witch' instead of 'which'...
Ok, there is one another reason, don't laugh, please.
I wonted log in to upvote some really underestimated answers, which saved my ass some time ago
 
I dont see any reason to laugh about that
it is great to show gratitude for things that helped you
 
I'm laughing
I can't vote ...:D
 
ah, well...
 
I can't comment ....:D
nice comment would be nice
and something tells me, that I'll never be voteable :D
 
11:05 AM
they have to put some sort of barrier for new accounts though
if they dont, I could just spawn a million new accounts and ruin their entire site...
if I am in a bad mood...
 
Unfortunately, not register users can't vote
 
not registered?
 
(some problems) ... plenty people use solutions from SO, but they have no way to express that is useful etc
and yes, it would be naive to let users vote themselves logged out...
 
if you just want a bit higher reputation to avoid the barriers, you can do a bit of moderation
for example, Wietbot required 20 reputation (iirc) to speak in chat
which was done mostly by editting questions by fixing tags, editing for layout or language fixes
 
11:25 AM
well, yes but it's fragile territory - novices don't understand - someone interjects smash 'very good english' and same time they got down votes - I don't want to hurt them, they are already under pressure, and editing very old questions - not sure what purpose? If they existed since years or months
 
just new questions
 
When I catch good case - of course, but looking around what to change just for my points... no, this is not good way
 
I suppose I have lower standards :D
 
new questions - I edited one because of misleading title... hour or some more later question was closed voluntary by (novice) user - its fragile territory
 
ohai
 
11:29 AM
shh
yea, I am not really an expert on the behavior of users on main site though... I rarely visit it
 
'ohai' it's Clingonian 'hello' ? ;)
 
I can give one piece of advice,
keep trying to understand the motives and mindset of other people
but don't let that bother your own
"ohai" is pretty much my own way of saying "oh, hello"
@Wietbot refresh
 
Clingonish
?
 
commands refreshed
 
klingon?
 
11:32 AM
oh, yes
 
I would hardly say so
I have never really watched/read Star Trek
 
Recently I read Clancy
 
if the Klingon way of saying "hello" is also "ohai", it is purely coincidental
 
I'm sure, you're not hostile freak
 
I try to not be :D
 
11:37 AM
@blackblue I think one main reason is that many of your answers are better suited as comments
@blackblue try reading - stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-answer
 
I can't COMMENT!!!!
I'd like to, but can't
 
because higher reputation unlock privilege. U may not yet have the privilege
 
to get rep I need what? answering or not? I know, asks as an answer is not good practice, but I can't help without info, and I can't ask as a comment, the only what I can is answering and editing
 
Try making one or two good answers, then u will have privilege to ask comments.
 
Old users read my rep and skip my ans, novices don't vote - forgetting or what,
Today old user send me a comment 'Thank you' instead of voting...
One or two good answers I give already
If they are really good, but not trendy - I get down
 
11:51 AM
testing
@Wietbot refresh
 
commands refreshed
 
testing...
 
I must go, thanks for chat, by
 
bye
 
ohai
 
12:18 PM
ohai
ohai
 
test
 
12:42 PM
@Wietbot join 7
 
 
1 hour later…
2:05 PM
@Wietbot test
 
I have no clue what you meant right there. You can use the listCommands command to see all my commands.
 
uhm... whaddaheck?
@Wietbot evalnode "test"
 
@Wietlol test
 
wtf?
 
 
1 hour later…
3:15 PM
/play with bot
\command play
/help
help -man ?
 
3:36 PM
@Wietbot say hello to Priyanka
@PriyankaW hi Indian?
 
3:53 PM
ohai
I think...
 
Priyanka our @Wietbot is a little dumb in nature.
 
he is offline
 
4:08 PM
@Wietlol u r such a misogynist! How r u so sure that Wietbot is a HE and not SHE? :-P
 
I made him
 
ohhhh... then u r even more misogynist... it is a genral convention to make SHE bots
 
yes, except if the bot wants to be a him
 
ohai
 
ohai
 
4:17 PM
well bots have no existence unless humans make them, unless in a distant future when bots make other bots
BTW r u aware of any bot who has been made by another bot?
 
nope
I hope this works :D
 
suppose bots think we humans to be useless, they start self reproducing and making other bots
 
hmm... that didnt work :(
 
I am aware about an incident in Facebook where two bots started communicating with one another in a language of their own. The employess got so scared, they shut down the bot
3
 
Facebook employees are scared by everything nowadays :D
test :D
more testing :D
again :D
d :D b
b :D d
 
4:41 PM
:D
 
no, you do it wrong, it is :D
;)
well... time to test it again 😁
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
😁
now I need a database of em
 
 
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8:52 PM
@Wietbot join 7
 
 
2 hours later…
10:34 PM
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11:11 PM
aaa
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11:38 PM
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test
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