@Demorus http://jsfiddle.net/rlemon/kRtvw/8/ ok so why yours didn't work and a few tips from rlemon: 1) you cannot kill overflow and still expect to be able to scroll in all browsers. I couldn't in Chrome. so the button never appears. 2) you were animating scrollTop for the wrapper element. This needs to be done for the body and html elements. 3) custom scroll bars are a bad idea. not all browsers allow them, and different OS's do scroll bars differently. Best to let the browser / OS decide how the scroll bars look.