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8:00 AM
.git dir has 588kb, files have just 24kb
 
Let's delete is allllll
it*
 
@kaᵠ File size != amount of disk space used with small files (usually)
Although 20x the space is odd
 
Git history?
git log
 
@Duikboot I am serious. There is no benefit in having that class when it's a) only exposing a static function and b) not using an interface. Your class is effectively the same as a regular global function that way and PHP already has a function to validate eMails.
@crypticツ you the cat with the hat now :)
 
@Gordon I needed some swagger
 
8:04 AM
I never used that one before @Gordon, but I was also serious :), I removed my code and used filter_vlaidate_email now.
 
@crypticツ the cat with a hat was one of my favorite puppet shows when I was a kid
 
Does anyone what type of hashing SE does to the email addresses?
 
@crypticツ Unsalted MD5
 
no salt?
 
@uınbɐɥs git log : fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
 
8:07 AM
@kaᵠ yeah... it would say that...
 
@DaveRandom i used 'du -hs' to get the filesize
 
@kaᵠ Storing Git history takes up space, that's probably why .git is the size it is.
 
@uınbɐɥs i have no problem with that, but i can't GIT damnit
on any repo
 
@Duikboot You need to make that instantiable. Firstly public static members are generally horrible, but more to the point, if you had an instance you could store the messages in an internal array in the instance and then do if (!$validator->validate()) { $errors = $validator->getValidationErrors(); /* ... */ }
@kaᵠ On any repo? Have you just moved all of them?
 
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A: github workflow - fatal: not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git

Jernej GololicicCheck the following file: your_repo_dir/.git/HEAD If this content seems corrupted, this is the issue. I had the similar issue and I fixed it by replacing the content of the HEAD file with the git commit hash of the last commit from selected branch. commit hashes could be found under the .gi...

 
8:13 AM
@DaveRandom copy all, and works for some, seems just the ones I configured to work with ssh instead of https don't work
 
woooooooooooooooo
I am listening to music. so dont mind me.
 
@Gordon share please
 
@LeviMorrison I'm at my best when I'm drunk
Motrning all
 
@kaᵠ How did you configure them? In .git/config or .gitconfig?
 
8:15 AM
I'm wondering if your .git/index has absolute paths in it
 
.git/config @DaveRandom
checking
.git/index is binary .git/config has:
[core]
repositoryformatversion = 0
filemode = true
bare = false
logallrefupdates = true
[remote "origin"]
fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
url = git@github.com:godka/php-math.git
[branch "master"]
remote = origin
merge = refs/heads/master
 
oh. @crypticツ is a vegetarian. I didnt know.
thank you kitty cat for leaving more meat for me.
Gordon hugs @crypticツ
 
You can have mine too...but no hugs please. ;)
 
yay! moar meat!
 
good mornings, love, hugs and kisses :)
and stop homophobia please.
 
8:20 AM
@Gordon i think one of the ideas behind vegetarian diets is to not kill animals anymore, so your comment would kinda be an insult for vegetarieans
 
@hakre dont forget world peace
 
@Gordon yes world peace is great.
 
@kaᵠ Depends on why you don't eat meat.
 
@hakre what's that radio station you listen?
had good music
 
I've worked with PETA, Humane Society, and numerous animal rights groups. You need to watch the documentary 'Earthlings' @Gordon
 
8:21 AM
@kaᵠ if god wouldnt want us to eat animals god wouldnt have made them contain meat
 
@kaᵠ what kind of music was it?
 
@Gordon Well lucky for me I'm Atheist =oP
 
@Gordon lol, we are omnivores afterall but have a brain and can choose our path
@hakre ended in :9000 ?
 
I was just typing something very similarly. ;D
 
@kaᵠ the kind of music. house? deep house?
 
8:22 AM
lol @Gordon strike #2
 
@kaᵠ fun fact: our brain is as good as it is nowadays because we started eating meat. there is studies linking the protein in meat to brain growth
 
@hakre both work :P
 
there is proton radio and deep is deep mix moscow radio.
@Gordon you can also achieve the same with eggs.
also meat is also based on vegetarian food.
 
@Gordon You sound like so many people I know, who can't bear the thought of having a vegetarian in the room. They always tell exactly those things. ;)
 
@hakre i've seen a documentary on chickens lately. Since then I only buy bio eggs.
 
8:24 AM
@Gordon you better do so. otherwise if you're ill and there are no drugs in the pharmacy, you can also consider buying a conventional chicken instead of medics ;)
 
@Gordon for some reason i don't believe head volume has anything to do with IQ (but still not gonna compare insects with mammals, anyway you'd be surprised what some insects can do)
 
@Gordon Well then we better watch out for them lions, tigers and sharks. They apparently are eating nothing but meat. =oP
 
@TillHelge i've got nothing against vegetarians. my exgf is. i dont expect them to eat meat but i expect them not wanting me to eat no meat either.
@hakre what annoyed me though was that bio eggs have a 50% bigger CO² impact, so while protecting the animals I am hurting the climate
 
for most vegetarians I feel pitty, however I can deal with it.
 
@Gordon Yeah well...there are many different types of vegetarians. I don't like the annoying ones either. Just the same as with people who try to force their religious beliefs on other people.
 
8:26 AM
@Gordon Sounds like the dilemma of our days: first hurt your health or first hurt the climate and then your health.
 
i'm more of a veg+animal products(egg/milk)+meat(except from mammals) you get everything from that
 
@crypticツ I signed a petition to stop shark finning, so sharks have my sympathy. I am considering becoming a WWF Tiger protector as well.
 
@Gordon one of the largest contributors to GHGs is methane produced by the cattle industry.
 
@Gordon CO² 'pollution' is overrated
 
@crypticツ yes. I know. And I've tried to lower my meat consumption. Buying more quality meat instead. Wagyu FTW!
 
8:28 AM
@kaᵠ Yes, seem so. Air is fine over here. Government has told me.
 
@Gordon I agree, I don't go out and force people to not eat meat, but I do take issue when people look down on me for my choice and I defend myself. =o)
 
haha, @hakre you in japan ?
 
On a side note: vegan is awesome … when you add cream, bacon and cheese and put it in the oven
 
mornings
 
vegan=(strict)vegetarian ?
 
8:29 AM
@crypticツ the only reason why I would look down on you is because you are smaller than me
 
@crypticツ Wrong. The largest contributor is the human. Start there.
 
lol @hakre yeah
 
@hakre I didn't say it was the largest, it is one of the largest. even 5% is large compared to the global output.
 
@crypticツ Sure but it's not the cattle but how we deal with it, that's what I wanted to say by that.
 
@hakre the main reason why I buy bio eggs nowadays is because of the way non-bio eggs are created. its outright criminal and scandalous. let me fetch the documentary for you.
 
8:32 AM
@Gordon It's not criminal. It's how the markets work.
 
@crypticツ I'm not truly a vegetarian...I just don't eat red meat and much less meat than anybody else in general. I used to defend myself, when people started making fun of me...but recently stopped, because apparently a man being (somehwat) vegetarian is something of an insult to manhood itself.
You can't argue with that. It's pointless. So I tend to just ignore it and enjoy my meal. ;)
 
@TillHelge well at least you tried and did your part, can't say the same for the rest of mankind.
 
just noticed the brooms on your avatars... is it some sort of cult?
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@TillHelge I think it is fine if somebody says what he wants to eat and what not.
 
it's a lot healthier too considering all the hormones and antibiotics they put into the meat these days.
 
8:34 AM
@ShyamK The cult of the dead cow - eh cattle - eh the cult of the broomians.
 
@ShyamK yes, and you can join. We just require a sacrificial lamb.
 
@crypticツ check out on genetic-engineered plants also :(
 
monring
 
@crypticツ It's just a matter of taste for me. I don't like it, so why would I eat it? I'm aware of the other reasons why people stop eating meat and I respect them, but personally I think there are more severe problems in the world that that.
 
@kaᵠ damn Monsanto!
 
8:35 AM
@crypticツ lamb? I thought you were a veggie
 
genetical engeneering in the right hands is superb thing. and no, I do not mean Monsanto.
 
@kaᵠ Yeh it is a binary file but it does have the file paths within it. At the end of the day, it's quite possibly going to be simpler to just burn the repo and re-clone it, do you have any uncommitted changes?
 
@hakre I don't drink alcohol either...that's even harder for most people to accept.
 
@TillHelge whaaaaaaaaaat? get out of here :D
 
@DaveRandom actually you're right, small change
 
8:36 AM
@TillHelge I must do that now as well, way too much negative influence by alcohol I have noticed by myself.
 
@TillHelge oh wait. you mean, you dont drink it. you inject it?
 
@DaveRandom but think is.. i have the same dir structure :)
 
@Gordon I inject into water from time to time, if I need to clean something. ;)
 
@TillHelge as in "clean your throat"?
 
@kaᵠ Just move the source files and any .gitconfig/.gitignore etc files outside the dir, nuke it, re-clone it, and move the source files back in and commit/push. Should sort it out, and it's easier/quicker than debugging git IMO
 
8:37 AM
yup alcohol is bad for the brain
 
and good for your heart (literally) and soul
 
@tillhelge dude I never drink alcohol even dont know its test also meat or non-veg :P
 
@DaveRandom thanx, that's what i'm gonna do!
 
@tereško marathon running zombies ftw!!!
 
So apparently the MS Exchange server supports SMTP! Goody! Now to find out the name of the server :|
 
8:38 AM
.git is Evil !!!
 
user image
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this leaves us more time to chat :)
 
@Gordon small amounts of alcohol extends the life expectancy
 
@hakre @crypticツ did you guys notify the management about the strike ?
 
then again ... "small amounts" seems to be quite subjective =/
 
@tereško yes, but it's a micro optimization if you factor in the other things that shorten it
 
8:39 AM
@kaᵠ if they don't notice on their own, we need to intensify our actions.
our demand is clear: stop all those silly questions!
 
@Gordon Living is fatal.
3
 
@MadaraUchiha true story
 
moderators must act on flags within less than 15 minutes.
 
@kaᵠ we'll get fired, we aren't unionized =o( Are mods considered a union?
 
So... no CV-PLS today?
What's with that? :o
 
8:40 AM
@Gordon lets put it this way, when it comes to life expectancy, there is no such thing as "pointless micro optimization"
 
more delete and close votes based on reputation!
 
@crypticツ unioinized is so 90s. people get unicornized nowadays
 
@hakre 1. You should propose a solution, and not join point out a problem
 
@tereško if you put it this way. yes :)
 
Anybody is free to join the UU - Unicorn Union.
 
@hakre you really want to give people like mario additional rights ?
 
@MadaraUchiha Sometimes you need a popular phrase to show what you aim for even it is not the solution 2.) I hate that face :) 3.) this is cool as you're a moderator as well.
 
the closevotes should be based on helpful flag rate
 
@tereško additional rights? just more votes. and what problem do you have with mario?
 
@hakre Didn't get 3?
 
8:44 AM
@tereško also a good idea.
 
(I am not a mod on Stack Overflow)
 
@MadaraUchiha Moderators must be able to, to process a flag within a 15 minute time-span no matter what.
 
vote @Gordon for our union chief!
 
@tereško Ooohhh! That!
 
@kaᵠ uuuh, no. I am not convinced Unions are good thing.
 
8:45 AM
@hakre Moderators are able to process a flag within 2 minutes, it depends on when they read it :P
 
@MadaraUchiha the question with my awesome anser got deleted on meta... whyyyyyyyyyyy?
 
@kaᵠ Which?
 
the pets one
 
@MadaraUchiha You name it. Probably this needs more Moderators.
 
@kaᵠ Was the entire question deleted?
 
8:45 AM
yes :((
was it that bad, did it need deletion?
 
@hakre Problem is, the more mods you have, the more diversity you have.
True, we have some protocols and some procedures, but we mostly operate on our own and Stack Exchange trusts us to do the right thing
With more than 30 mods, that "right thing" gets a little blurred out.
 
the better the system is designed, the lower the rules and rule enforcers
 
@kaᵠ Indeed
 
@MadaraUchiha Moderators can join the strike as well if they feel overwhelmed.
 
@hakre I think my suggestion was better, about focusing the flag queue
 
8:48 AM
@MadaraUchiha what do you say about the pet q ?
 
Also, the entire flag system is getting reworked, so wait until that finishes.
@kaᵠ I voted to undelete, but it probably won't happen
 
@MadaraUchiha link pls.
 
@MadaraUchiha screenshot?
 
@Gordon what's your take on that pets question on meta?
 
8:51 AM
@kaᵠ TL and superfluous. Like most Qs on Meta.
 
lol @Gordon was just closing some of the 13 million tabs I have open and found this
 
@MadaraUchiha that needs me a 90 upvotes then. :/
 
I never liked Meta. It's the whining house of StackOverflow.
@DaveRandom awesome suit is awesome
 
I don't have my screenshotting tool, so here's the next best thing
 
@Gordon lol TL on meta
 
8:54 AM
> Sorry, but can you expand on this? One-word answers aren't really considered "good" answers by our standards.
^^ lol
I'm thinking the is probably counter-productive you know. It will achieve nothing except potentially allowing bad questions to live for longer :-(
 
@DaveRandom isnt that the case with most strikes?
 
@Gordon #nowthatchersdead
 
I always felt strikes are annoying
 
usually start because a bunch of people are annoyed
 
"airport workers on strike? oh, great. that will shorten my holiday by at least one day. lovely. Yes, I do support you. FFS!"
"public transit on strike? oh, great. So now I'll have to get a cab and pay 50 bucks in addition to paying my monthly public transit card. Oh, yes, I do support your cause. FFS!"
and that's usually always how I feel when someone is on strike
 
9:06 AM
it's annoying too, but it engages a problem and makes change
 
-1
Q: Linking "helpful flags" to available close-votes for 20k+

tereskoFor people who are active in the SO community, it is quite common to run out of close votes. It is especially noticeable, when chat rooms like try to do some controlled cleanup in their particular areas. The 50 close votes is just too low (and same actually goes for delvotes too). The best way...

 
usually should not last long and there are benefits for all
 
@kaᵠ I dont have benefits from it. I have disadvantages from it. And it's not my fault they dont have what they are striking for. I want them to protest in a way that doesnt impair my life.
 
@Gordon It's a generational thing, I suspect. I mean, without unionisation, none of us would be getting paid to lounge around prodding at computers all day.
To us it just seems irrelevant, but to the people who truly were repressed masses it made a huge difference
 
@DaveRandom why? and how is it relevant today? the industrial revolution is over. that whole worker class thing is a relic of the past imo.
 
9:10 AM
@Gordon that's also a good idea, but only in Japan they are protesting peacefully (white band on arm)
@tereško i'd go for 10k+, min 500 flags, +1 for every 10-50
 
i have 1400+ flags
 
but it's still the XY problem!
 
@Gordon Exactly my point. But the only reason it's a relic of the past is because people stood up to it back then. If that hadn't happened who knows where we'd be? I very much doubt the middle classes would be as well off today as they are
 
@tereško what good would 4-9 extra flags do for you with a 50k que ??? how many active 20k+ users like you are there? (not repwhoring also) you need MORE flags
 
the problem is: we need more flags for people who can be trusted with closing questions
 
9:15 AM
@tereško The problem is how you determine who can be trusted though, we know only too well that reputation/history don't necessarily work.
 
morning
btw @kaᵠ, did you do that round one on saturday?
 
hey people:)
 
@NikiC yes, failed, i was dead and upset (got my pc up and running 20 mins past the start)
you?
 
didn't
too late ^^
 
@tereško if (10k+ & [cv-steward] & [marshal]) +1 vote per every 10 flags past 500
there's no more bonification after that and stuff needs closing, it's a voluntary act, so give power to the trusted volunteers
still... XY problem
@NikiC did you see the problems?
 
9:23 AM
quick look
the first one seemed trivial
I derived an analytical solution, though with an off-by-one error somewhere ^^
 
@NikiC had 93% completition rate
what sol @NikiC ?
 
uh, if I still have that lying around...
my desk is quite messy :D
The solution i had was n = (1-r)/2 + sqrt((1-r)^2/4 + T/2 - r)
 
mine is clean, will get messy in a few weeks :P
@NikiC not good enough for A.2
umm
 
Is isn't?
 
wait...
 
9:27 AM
I mean, it's analytical, no summations accumulating numerical error
and if need be one can run the sqrt through gmp/bc
 
yeah, might work
 
but in any case, that solution is not exactly right, but I didn't bother to check at which place I forgot a +/- 1 ^^
 
to qualify you'd need >36 points this time
 
sounds quite doable ^^
 
@NikiC pervert
grrr. the stupid cake tries to outsmart me
 
9:37 AM
The cake is a lie
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum it certainly is a liar
it pretends to do
if (!isset($options['type'])) {
			$options['type'] = 'text';
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum the cake is static
 
public static $theCake = A_LIE;
 
@Gordon , is there a way to see how many questions with are in the review-queue ?
 
@tereško none I know of
 
9:44 AM
@tereško If you include the close vote-queue I bet it's over 9000 ;)
 
ash
Hi,

I am having a site using PHPBB3 , everything works fine till two days before.

But today when i tried login , it gets login but automatically get log out .both my admin login and user login acts as same .What would be the problem.?
 
geez, had nothing better to do than tell the Clounge about the strike
 
@ash 42. check if the hd is full. maybe the session data cannot be written
 
ash
@Gordan That means my sever settings ???
 
@tereško This was possible in the past I think. Maybe this is now possible with search?
 
@tereško this is always late and slow.
 
@ash random fun fact: the moment you misspelled my name with an "a" I knew you are from India
 
I still need to find out how you guys manage that all the time given that "a" is on the opposite side of the keyboard and there is no way you could have fat fingered that
 
ash
@Gordon oh sorry for that
 
9:55 AM
@Gordon Gohan
you're now rice
 
@Gordon Incorrect (depending on the keyboard ofcourse): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
 
@Ocramius very funny. here is your reward. pick one: Gate A Gate B Gate C
 
@Gordon what about NO?
 
@Gordon In fairness, if you were used to an different alphabet of squiggles and odd shapes, a lot of roman letters would probably look the same. I know I'd have difficulty using a hindi keyboard...
 
@dragon112 thanks. that could actually explain it
@Ocramius not an option
 
9:58 AM
@Gordon I'll go with friday then :|
 
@DaveRandom Y U NO TEACH COLONIES PROPER LETTERS WHEN U HAD CHANCE?
 
@Ocramius Go with C, It's a tinyurl, they never disappoint... ;)
 
@Gordon Yes apologies for that. I'll arrange another invasion and we'll sort it out.
I really wanna know what the key with an Indian flag on it does.
 
@DaveRandom thank you
 
@DaveRandom You the worst
(worst = sausage in dutch, just so you know)
 
10:03 AM
@ash Clear your cookies. It's quite like that the problem is with your browser and not the server. If you are having the problem with multiple computers/browsers, you probably have something wrong with your session GC settings.
 
@dragon112 I... I don't know how to respond to that. Err... thanks?
 
Am using CRUD solution by http://www.phpgrid.org
I've changed db name, table name in the index file (no other config file i found)..its showing nice but changes are not reflecting to db..any suggestions? Thanks :)
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I dont get it. Isn't that a regular captcha?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Needz moar wingdings
 
10:05 AM
@DaveRandom You are very welcome!
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum you will also like fartcha.com and github.com/restlessdesign/pestilence
 
@Ocramius Where do you find these things? :D
 
@Ocramius LOL, that's awesome
 
@uınbɐɥs I have personal advisors paid to find crap on the web
 
10:09 AM
@Gordon you killed it
 
Ah, the irony :)
 
@Ocramius how do you use reddit? posted like 5 links, none showed up, new user here
 
@kaᵠ not a redditor, I haz no reddit, I'm poor
 
only trolls use reddit
 
10:17 AM
^
 
lol
 
THAT
 
huh, searching for some sources, heard redit is something
other ideas?
 
it's true. there is even a post notice for SO posts that says: "reddited"
> Welcome, Redditors! We're looking for answers that provide serious, practical solutions to the problem stated. If you'd prefer to post a joke or launch a tangential discussion, please do so on the corresponding Reddit thread.
 
@Gordon where? link?
 
10:22 AM
@kaᵠ it's a post notice moderators can add to posts
 
lol :)
 
@Gordon so much win
I think I shall join the trolls btw - never been to much on that side, must be funny
 
@Ocramius You didn't join them yet? Oh... Who would have thought?
 
@DaveRandom I'm writing jQuery code today, fyi
 
Good trolling attempt. ;)
 
10:32 AM
@Ocramius Bad news for all involved. Although it's not like its impossible to write good jQ code, it's not even that difficult as long as you understand the semantics of JS ;-) (which I'm sure you do)
 
@DaveRandom using the jquery plugin boilerplate, as any good jQuery dev should do, right?
 
jQuery is a good tool for some uses
For making something more 'dynamic' if it has to work in all browsers - good. A lot of animations - nice. For making a web-application - horrible
 
I'm trying to send a mail through Microsoft Exchange's SMTP
 
Now it tells me the client has no permission to mail to this server
 
10:35 AM
I've only just noticed your previous message :-(
@MadaraUchiha Exchange version?
 
I'm thinking I need to authenticate, what headers do I need to send?
No idea, I'm not the admin
How can I check? Or do I need to ask the network manager?
 
I'm not good at this (I think)
 
lol
 
@MadaraUchiha One sec let me just remind myself what needs to be configured
 
K thanks
 
10:40 AM
@MadaraUchiha Just get them to follow this, assuming 2010 which it probably is
That's what I did
It used to be so much simpler with Exch2005
 
Thanks, let me try
 
Essentially the SMTP service is probably running but it won't allow send relay because there are no allowed entities for the relay, which is how it come configured by default
 
Alright so I checked
It's2003
But will be upgraded to 2010 soon
 
Congratulations! You have earned a reward. Pick one: Gate A or Gate B or Gate C
5
making this a permalink since its so useful
 
1 message moved to bin
 
10:48 AM
nooooooooooes :(
 
T-45 until freedom fries
 
@Dave I'm seeing a different error though
Not the ones described in this page
I get 454 5.7.3 Client does not have permission to submit mail to this server
 
@MadaraUchiha :-S sounds like an exch 2003/5 message, how old is the server?
 
@Gordon that one is gone :)
 
Not sure
@Dave probably pretty good
Old
 
10:58 AM
@MadaraUchiha kk well I remember it was a shitload easier to set up on 2005, I'm sure I still have access to a box running it, I'll see if I can get onto it
 
Server should be 2003
 
@hakre then use the cached version linked three messages below
 
anyone has downloaded the demo and is able to share it?
 
But will get upgraded to 2010 soon
 
@MadaraUchiha EMC didn't really change much between 2003 and 2005, 2005 is kinda like 2003R2
 
10:59 AM
@tereško: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/110574/… - I still did not manage to exclude the ones that one has voted on already.
 

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